is a capitol police officer. >> so there is a lot more to her story, but the point i want to make is that the very same bad actors in the gop on social media, fox and elsewhere, those same people took her story and twisted it. they falsely suggested that she had hid the fact that she was in her office building, not in the capitol dome itself, even though she had made that clear in the story. or that the person pounding on the door was a cop, not a rioter, even though all that information came from her in that instagram live. now, they seem to be doing this in the name of smearing her and diminishing the ugliness of the attack. and, frankly, to distract from the blood on their hands. one month to the day before the attack, we here at "state of the union" were warning about what we were afraid might happen.

>> it turns out when a major political party coddles and enables and supports public figures who lie repay showsly and incessantly and also tolerate threats against those who challenge those lies, that storm of lies and indesccency is strengthened and unleashed and it cannot be controlled. that was one month before the attack. today, one month and one day after the attack, after that storm hit the capitol, we are again warning. if there is no accountability and no attempt by the republican party to stop these insane lies that have taken root in their party, witness the support this week by the house republicans for bigot and conspiracy theorist marjorie taylor greene, the congresswoman from georgia, if there's no effort of kdability, this is not going to

be the end of maga terrorism. this will only be the be givening. thanks for spending your sunday morning with us. fareed zakaria "gps" starts right now. this is "gps." the global public square. welcome to all of you in the united states and around the world. i'm fareed zakaria coming to you live from new york. today on the show -- >> america is back. diplomacy is back. >> america's adversaries react to president biden. >> two of the largest challenges facing the new administration are what to do about ever-increasing competition from beijing and how to handle tehran's nuclear ambitions. i have exclusive conversations with iran's foreign minister and china's ambassador to

washington, cui tiankai. also, the military in myanmar consummates another coup. what is behind the arrest of nobel peace prize winner aung sang suu kyi? i will explain. but first here's my take. we're all wondering how the republican party, the party of abraham lincoln got to the point that it has an elected member of congress, marjorie taylor greene, who has suggested nancy pelosi could be executed for treason, cast doubts on the events of 9/11 and speculated that the jewish cabal used lasers to start california's wild fires? the answer is in plain sight, the continual accomodation of extremism by the party's leaders. this week the republican congressional caucus declined to censure greene in any way.

house minority leader kevin mccarthy pretended not to even know what qanon was. in the senate mitch mcconnell has finally drawn the line, describing greene's views as looney. but it is too little, too late. the party has been encouraging looney views for years. today we rightly applaud mitt romney for his political courage, but it is worth recalling when he was running for president in 2012, he craved donald trump's endorsement. when he got it, he gushed. >> there are some things that you just can't imagine happening in your life. >> later that year, romney tacitly endorsed trump's most noxious lie, birtherism. >> no one has ever asked to see my birth certificate. they know this is the place we were born and raised. >> the real big lie at the heart of the modern republican party, though, is about public policy, not conspiracy theories.

since the 1930s, the repeal of fdr's new deal when the next republican president dwight eisenhower did nothing of the sort, the modern movement emerged. furiously branding ike a traitor. when lbj enacted the great society, conservatives alleged they would tear it all down and never did. ronald reagan denounced medicare as a direct path to socialism. if passed, he famously warned -- >> you and i are going to spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's children what it once was like in america when men were free. >> of course as president for eight years, reagan left medicare largely intact and ended up expanding the program. in the early 1990s, house leader newt gingrich doubled down on a rhetoric of radicalism and ext extremism. he promised revolution and

described political opponents as the embodiment of evil who win only because they lie and cheat. e.j. dionne has described these results as the politics of disappointment and betrayal. ted cruz follows the same tragedy today still. his 2016 platform included promises to repeal obamacare, abolish the irs and balance the budget, plans he knew could never get enacted. but they were just the right red meat for the base. he treats his supporters like cannon fotder, whipping them into hysteria and sending them into battle. the republican party endlessly crowed about repealing and replacing obamacare, only to come to power without any viable plan and then quickly accommodated itself to the reality it had vowed to overturn. this entire decades' long strategy has led millions of republicans to feel cheated and lied to by their leaders creating an atmosphere of

paranoia and suspicion toward anyone who is not utterly extreme. it also feeds the notion that true conservatism fails because of treason, betrayal or collusion. it is a short and direct line from the tactics of newt gingrich to the january 6th capitol riot. if you are looking for an alternative path for a conservative leader, one who knows how to appeal to populist and national settlement, look at boris johnson. johnson who initially and badly bungled covid-19 is now tackling the pandemic with much greater seriousness, and he is gradually emerged as the most consequential conservative politician since margaret thatcher. he has been reshaping his party to make it more compatible with modern day britain. his cabinet is remarkably diverse with two of the three most powerful positions filled

by asian britains. >> it sounds like a new deal. and all i can say is that is so and that is how it is meant to sound and how it is meant to be because that is what the times demand. a government that is powerful and determined and that puts its arms around people at a time of crisis. >> he adds to these innovations more traditional thatcher-like ideas like efficient government, free trade and a moral foreign policy. >> we will build, build, build. build back better, build back greener, build back faster. >> if republicans are searching for a conservatism that can work in the modern era, they should first stop lying to their own voters. then they could look to examples like britain's to bring their party into the world of facts and reality. go to cnn.com/fareed for a link to my "washington post" column

this week. and let's get started. ♪ ♪ there is breaking news this morning that i want to get to swiftly with our first guest. today in tehran the ayatollah khomeini declared that if the west wants iran to join the nuclear deal, all sanctions will need to be lifted. for its part, the white house says iran needs to come back into compliance with the deal as a first step. so both sides have set the bar high for a resumption of talks or at least the resumption of the deal. what happens next? joining me is iran's foreign minister jaf ved zarif. welcome, sir. and let me start with that. all sanctions have to be lifted. the national security adviser on this program said iran first needs to come into compliance. where do we go from here?

>> well, good morning to you. and it's good to be with you again. it is very clear. it was the united states that left the deal. it was the united states that violated the deal. it was the united states that punished any country that remained respectful and compliant with the deal. so it is for the united states to return to the deal, to implement its obligations. iran never left the deal. iran is in the deal. iran has reduced some of its commitments in line with the deal. the way to go back to full compliance on the part of iran is for the united states, which has totally deft the deal, to come back and implement its obligations. now, it's clear it's a decision that president biden and his advisers need to take. whether they want to break with the failed policies of president

trump or whether they want to build on his failures, if they want to build on his failures, they will only get failure as a result. >> let me ask you something that, you know, am i reading this correctly. there have been demands in the past that in addition to the united states coming back into the deal, iran should be compensated for the u.s. withdrawal. is it fair to read the khomeini statement as saying, no, the demand for compensation is not live anymore. the only issue is that the united states needs to waive the sanctions? >> well, the united states need to lift the sanctions, not waive them. the u.s. needs to remove the sanctions, and compensation was never a pre-condition. we said that we will discuss that once the united states is back in the deal, and that is for a very clear reason.

the deal or any international agreement is not a revolving door. they cannot simply come and go as they please. so the united states must make it clear and must give guarantees to iran and other members of the deal that the behavior of president trump will not be repeated because the international community has suffered enough from the lawlessness of somebody who acts on a whim. you have seen what has happened in the united states. you have seen what has happened in congress. the people of iran have felt that for four very, very long years. we're not prepared to feel that again. >> your ambassador for the united states said the window is closing for iran to join the tf united states said the window is closing for irofor the united states said the window is closing for iror the united states said the window is closing for irr the united states said the window is closing for ir the

united states said the window is closing for iran to join the deal. can you give me a time line. how long is iran willing to wait before there is an even more substantial departure from the deal? >> well, we have a statutory requirement to reduce the presence of un inspectors, not to simply -- not to completely finish it, but to reduce the presence of un inspectors on somewhere around february 21st. i think what will happen then is that you will not see the additional protocol implemented in iran. that doesn't mean the window is fully shut because if the united states and its partners return to the deal, return to full compliance, iran will reverse its actions. all the actions we are taking are reversible. but obviously it would be much simpler if the united states decided to make good on its commitments earlier rather than later. and it is good for the united states reputation because president trump not only destroyed the reputation of the united states domestically, but he destroyed the reputation of

the united states internationally. so the sooner the current administration returns to an international obligations, the sooner it can start rebuilding its reputation across the globe. >> the national security adviser on this program said that, if the deal were to be put back in place immediately, the biden administration would want to start negotiating with iran about limitations to its ballistic missile program. is this a possibility? >> well, jake sullivan was a part of the negotiating team that negotiated this deal. he should know better that we discussed those issues. and it was because of the united states' inability to address its own military to our region, hundreds of billions of dollars of military service to our region going to the countries that are committing genocide and war crimes in yemen and

elsewhere that we could not address these issues. so we agreed on what to deal with and what not to deal with. the united states cannot base its policy on what's mine is mine and what's yours is negotiable. we decided on these issues. the united states, as i said, should either break up with the past failures of president trump or try to build on it. if they try to build on it, they cannot build anything other than failure. >> just very quickly, though, so there is the ballistic missile issue nonnegotiable? it is a nonstarter? >> the entire nuclear deal is nonnegotiable because it was fully negotiated. we need to implement something that we negotiated. we do not buy the horse twice. you put yourselves in our shoes. you agreed to a deal. you agreed to give and take. you agreed to sacrifice certain

demands that you had because you agreed not to deal with certain issues. for instance, we agreed that the limitations on arms purchases and deliveries for iran would last for another five years. we just ended in october. that cannot be reinvented or renegotiated. the time is gone. we waited for five years. the united states did not implement the deal, but we did implement the deal, and we did fulfill our promises and we are going to fulfill our promises again if the united states fulfills its promises. let's start with something that we agree. we agreed on the jcpoa. the united states should start making good on its promises that it violated for four very, very long years for iranians. you know that the iranians were deprived of food and medicine during trump administration,

despite all the lies that they told american people. >> stay with us. stay with us, foreign minister. next up, iran versus saudi arabia. one of the most bitter rivalries on the world stage. president trump's first foreign trip was to saudi arabia. by contrast, the biden administration announced this week it was ending support for the saudi-led military offensive in yemen, in which iran has backed the anti-saudi forces. i will ask the foreign minister for his reaction to that move. built just for customers 55 andn up. saving 50% vs. other carriers with 2 unlimited lines for less than $30 each. call 1-800-t-mobile or go to t-mobile.com/55. the sun is incredible. it makes our lipton tea leaves better. which makes the smooth tea taste better, and time together even better. and drinking lipton can help support a healthy heart. lipton is a proud sponsor of the american heart association's life is why campaign.

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we are back with iran's foreign minister, javad zarif. mr. foreign minister, let me ask you about the announcement the

biden administration made, that it was ending arm sales that were to saudi arabia relating to the yemen war. does it produce the opportunity to end the war? what needs to happen next? >> i certainly hope that it does. president trump made the united states an accomplice in a lot of crimes that saudis committed in yemen. let me tell you that in april of 2015, with the knowledge of the united states, with the knowledge of secretary kerry offered a four-point peace plan for yemen. an immediate end to war, broad based discussion and accomplishment of a broad-based representative inclusive government in yemen. that offer still stands, and we are prepared to work with the united nations special envoy martin griffith who is right now in iran, and i will be seeing him tomorrow and i will explain this to him. the reason that offer did not fly was that the crown prince of

saudi arabia believed and he informed the united states at that time that they could win in three weeks. we're talking about april 2015. we are getting to the sixth year, and they are not even any closer to winning. so it's best for the united states to show some tough love to its allies and tell them to stop this atrocity. they have never been in yemen. people have tried for the past 1,000 years. outsiders have tried to conquer yemen and they have failed. saudi arabia will fail, too. they should not look for an accomplice or a culprit. it is an attempt to use force against a people of a country in their own country. we are prepared to do everything we can to bring this worst humanitarian catastrophe in many years to a close, and we will work with the united nations and i will continue tomorrow with martin griffith.

>> before i let you go, i want to ask you one question. we don't have a lot of time, so i will ask you to indulge me and give me a brief reaction. the abraham accords do seem to suggest that the new alignment in the middle east is largely one a raid against iran. israel and the gulf arab states seem to be making common cores in an anti-iranian alliance. doesn't that put you in an extraordinarily weak position? >> it doesn't because it shows that our neighbors have not learned the lesson that they cannot purchase security from outside. they tried to purchase security from saddam hussein, and saddam hussein used the weapons they gave him against themselves. they tried to buy security from president trump and president trump only milked them. israelis will be far worse than these two.

i think the kbefbest way for ths to come to the region. the resolution of the problems in our region should emanate from our own region and iran stands ready to work with them. since you wanted a short reply. >> foreign minister, always good to have you on. thank you for coming on. >> thank you for having me. next on gps, a rare opportunity to hear china's side of the story from a top official, beijing's long time ambassador to washington, cui tiankai, joins me exclusively when we come back.

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we will confront china's economic abuses, counter its aggressive coercive action to push back on china's attack on human rights, intellectual property and global governance. but we are ready to work with beijing when it's in america's interest to do so.

>> that was president biden's message to china as he began to lay out his foreign policy doctrine at the state department on thursday. with me, beijing's representative in washington, ambassador cui tiankai has been china's ambassador to the united states since 2013. he received a masters degree from johns hopkins school of advanced international studies in 1987 and has worked his way up through china's foreign ministry all the way to the top ever since. ambassador cui, great to have you back on. >> good morning, fareed. so nice to see you. >> so we had that statement of president biden in the speech. we also had an exchange of readouts of descriptions of phone call that took place between america's top diplomat tony blinken and china's top diplomat, yang jay chi.

it all seems pretty tough and even the read-outs had a lot of more tough language in them. were you expecting a different start to the biden foreign policy? it seems as though china's top diplomat said that the four years of the trump administration had been the lowest point in u.s.-china relations since the opening to china in the nixon administration. do you think there is a new atmosphere in washington, or does it feel to you more like the biden administration is continuing some of donald trump's hardline policies? >> well, fareed, i think about a few basic things here. so let me try to make my points one by one. first of all, china's development, china's growth has been made possible by the hard work of the chinese people in our more than 40 years of reform.

this is a historical fact. to say otherwise is against the facts and certainly not fair to the chinese people. internationally, china always stands for the basic norms coming in international relations as embodied in the purposes and principles of the united nations charter. we will always support multilateral institutions, the international system centered on the united nations, including, for instance, w.h.o., w.t.o. and a number of others. and we already contribute more troops than other members of the security council to the un peacekeeping operations. we're already contributing to the global economic growth and we are ready to do more. for instance, we are working with a number of other countries to confront the current pandemic to restore economic growth

globally, and hopefully there is -- i believe there is such a need and potential for bilateral relations between china and the united states in all these areas, especially with the emerging or already existing global challenges like climate change. for the readout for the phone call yesterday, frankly, my impression is that this readout is still -- it still shows the resoundful of power. you don't have an effective foreign policy just by talking tough or playing tough. this is not a way -- not the way, the right way, of doing diplomacy. i think there is a clear need for mutual respect. people have to show good will and good faith.

of course, all countries have values and interest to defend. for china, national sovereignty, unity, territory integrated, these are the core values and the core interests we will defend. we will do whatever it takes to defend no matter who says what. >> but let me ask you about, you know, in some ways this new, tougher foreign policy, which has become a consensus. there are something like 400 pieces of legislation in the house in the united states congress that are aimed at in some way, you know, standing up to china. this new toughness comes in some part as a response to a new chinese foreign policy, which has been itself much more aggressive. and you don't have to listen to the united states on this. if you ask the australians, if

we find ourselves facing much more assertive china asking that think tanks do not. you find it when you talk to the indians who feel that china made incursions on a disputed border along the himalayans. you find it in japan where china pushed further its claims on the senkaku islands in various ways and, of course, you find it with taiwan and vietnam. so this sense that china is flexing its muscles is not just one felt in the united states. is there a reason for this new chinese foreign policy? >> i don't think it would have an entirely new foreign policy. we have been very consistent in our foreign policy. it's an independent policy for peace. of course we will safeguard our

sovereignty and independence, no doubt about it. fareed, please look at the map. all the issues that you mentioned and some other issues, they are either part of the chinese territory or in places very close to china. so who is on the offensive? who is on the defensive? you just have a look at the map. it is all power from the united states. the fact is whenever you have more involvement by the united states, you have instability anywhere in the world. look at middle east. look at some other places, latin america. and it's so obvious that when you are sort of rebalancing or pivoting, whatever the word might be, then there is more instability in our region. >> but, ambassador, if i may just interrupt you for a second, these places may be far from the united states, but they're not far from the australia, from india, from vietnam, from japan.

don't take washington's word for it. all i'm asking, are you listening to your neighbors? >> you see, we have more than a dozen neighbors on the land and more neighbors across the sea. and over the course of the history, inevitably, there have been disputes among the neighboring countries. this is the same thing anywhere in the world. but, basically, china and its neighbors have been able to address these disputes and solve them through dialogue and negotiation. for instance, we concluded treaties, an agreement with most of our neighbors on the land about the borders. it is all done by peaceful negotiations. we still have a couple of them left. but we're ready to work with them, negotiate with them. and in the meantime maintain stability and tranquility in the areas. so without external involvement,

it will be easier and more possible for the neighbors to solve the issues between themselves. >> when we come back, secretary of state mike pompeo said it. secretary of state of state blinker agrees. china's actions against the uyghurs constitute a genocide. the ambassador's reaction when we come back. , get your zzz's... and get back to your rhythm. feel the power. beat the symptoms fast. what's the #1 retinol brand used most by dermatologists? it's neutrogena® rapid wrinkle repair® smooths the look of fine lines in 1-week, deep wrinkles in 4. so you can kiss wrinkles goodbye! neutrogena®

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and we are back with china's ambassador to the united states, cui tiankai. let me ask you about one of the most contentious issues that is going to confront u.s.-china relations, and that is what is going on. president biden described it as a genocide. secretary of state mike pompeo did so. the new secretary of state, tony blinken, says he agrees with that judgment. is there not a way -- i know you've been on the show before and said this is inaccurate.

is there a way for china to allow observers free and total access, interviews with any and all yeager groups it wants to determine whether or not these claims about a cultural genocide are true? >> the fact is in the last few years, there have been more than 1,200 people, journalists, diplomats and from more than 100 countries. some of them are muslim countries. all these foreign visitors have visited in the last few years. you cannot say they are all not independent. you cannot say they don't have any observation. they have seen the facts on the ground very clearly.

why don't people listen to these people? and the real threat, the real threat up until very recent was very clear. first the threat of terrorism. there have been thousands of terrorist attacks, even killing thousands of innocent people, people from all ethnic people. so people have a strong demand that their safety and security should be guaranteed. that's what we have done in the last few years. now, for the last three to four years, there has been no single case of terrorist attack. so people have much better sense of security now. >> you say we should listen to independent observers. of course it is very hard for journalists to get there. but the bbc had some horrifying reports of labor camps that looked like prison camps and of guards that engaged in everything from sexual abuse to rape.

again, i ask you your response to that, but the simplest way to deal with this would be to welcome a group from human rights organizations to come in and make a thorough evaluation. because, otherwise, you do have independent reports such as exist from the bbc only of a week ago. >> most of their sources are not trustworthy. i have been to shin jan myself, more than once in the last few years. i have seen all these with my own eyes. i witnessed some of the vocational training center. it's just like a campus. it's not labor camp. it's campus. i don't know how the bbc people got all these wrong information or misinformation. but, you know, if you look at

that, maybe you should not have total trust of what they say. >> let me ask you about a question that you know keeps coming up, which is was the coronavirus accidentally leaked from a lab in wuhan. the people making these charges, to be clear, do not have strong evidence. but that's largely because china has not allowed teams of medical researchers to go in and they have not shared data on that. let me just ask you this. on the theory that the truth will eventually come out, would you categorically say that from all china's investigations, the coronavirus emerged from a wet market in wuhan and not from the wuhan virology institute lab? >> when people make these accusations, they have to prove these accusations. and to say these things at a

time when we're still faced with a pandemic is against the spirit of humanitarianism. besides, now, an expert group from w.h.o. is working in wuhan with their chinese counterpart. they're working very hard. they're trying to look at all the facts. and we are very supportive to their work. i have also participated in some of the conferences between experts, real experts about your country. they are real scientists. they are looking at the whole pandemic from the point of view of scientists, not any politicians. so i think the people have to be careful not to make groundless accusations. also, there have been a number of media reports about earlier cases of other places in the world. so there is certainly a need for more tracing to be done all over the world in order to really

trace down the origin of the virus so the human race could be better prepared when we are faced with another virus at the end. so please do not politicize the whole issue. please let the scientists do their professional job >> and will scientists be allowed full access to china from the w.h.o.? >> they're already in wuhan. they have been in wuhan for quite a few days. my question is, will they be allowed to come here to do the same thing. >> ambassador, it is so important for us to hear from you, and we thank you very much for coming on. >> thank you, fareed. now, if you want to hear more of this important conversation with china's ambassador, i have clips about climate change, about technology and more on our website. please go to cnn.com/fareed. by the way, regarding my question about the bbc, that

news organization has done a series of reports on the uyghur issue in 2018. for this week's story, they talked to women who made it out of the camps and fled china. we'll be back in a moment. at t-mobile, we have a plan built just for customers 55 and up. saving 50% vs. other carriers

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