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texas' power 2k3grid is warning right now. the sun setting in texas right now. close to 7 million texans are being told to boil water the state's govor says expect rolling blackouts to continue. after three days there's still no estimate as to when power will fully be restored. for the mill i don'tens who are freezing. remind you, we are in the united states. texas is in the united states. this is a child safety gate being burned by a family to heat their home. and then this picture. this man says he's having to resort to using closet rods to burn those in order to keep from freezing. look at this picture. just keep this up for a sect. this is the texas/arkansas border. the side that is cleared is the state of arkansas. the side that is not cleared is

texas. this is road clearing, road clears. there's no question about road clearing. arkansas did it just fine. texas didn't. this is on texas leadership. while these power outages highlight frankly hout fragile all of america's infrastructure is, something could happen somewhere else in the country and this could be you. the fact it's happening in texas, the state that produces more power than any other state, is a result of failed policy by a republican governor. "the washington post" reports that according to his own energy department, most of the losses have come from failures to winterize the power generating systems. after all, wind power words just fine in canada, right? think just put the winter package on it. abbott is passing the buck, trying to blame progressive democrats for their plan trying

to tackle climate change. >> this would how the green new deal could be a deadly deal. the wind and solar got shut down. they were collectively more than 10% of our power grid. that thrust texas into a situation where this was lacking power on a statewide basis. >> again, the wind turbines aren't working because texas's governor didn't buy the package no cold weather. there's no explanation to why texas can-- arkansas can pave t road and texas can't. this is governor abbott scrambling for answers, while people are burning child gates. >> reporter: a lot of political finger pointing here in the state of texas, and everyone trying to figure out exactly who is to blame and why this is happening, but erin, as you mentioned people are literally freezing in this state. this has been going on for days, and still about 2.3 million

people -- we last checked by five minutes ago, those millions of people are still without power as we speak. they want answers as to when the power is going to come back. at the moment, they're simply not getting those answers. unlivable conditions in texas. >> no! revenue frozen pipes bursting, flooding homes in bitter temperatures. >> the fact is every source of power in the state of texas has access to has been compromised because of the over-cold temperature or because of equipment failures. >> reporter: substantial relief is still days ago as more than 3 million remain without power. utilities companies are shut down, unable to generate electricity. >> we knew for a week this was coming. if we knew for a week, why weren't we ready? our house is 32 degrees inside.

>> linda shoe maker was forced to take her 101-year-old mother to this warming shelter overnight. >> you could freeze in the middle of the night. so we had to find some place to go. >> reporter: the mayor of austin says texas should have been better prepared. >> i have a community that's scared and frustrated, confused, angry. >> reporter: governor abbott says the dangerous lack of power is not the state's fault, but the failure of ercot. >> it stance for electric reliability council of texas. they showed that they were not rel rel reliable. >> reporter: some 90% of the lone star state's power is managed by ercot. it operates mostly independent of other power grids and mostly alone in its efforts to restore power quickly and safetily.

>> they in their best judgment prevented even a more catastrophic loss. >> about 19,000 megawatts of gas-powered generation is still off-line because of either mechanical issues or the lack of the supply of gas. >> reporter: abbott isn't letting his state's fossil fuel industry taking blame and face backlash. >> our wind and solar were shut down, collectively more than 10% of our power grid. it shows that foss the fuel is necessary for the state of texas as well as other states. >> reporter: as time goes by, the situation here in texas becoming more and more dangerous.

just to give you the big picture, 70% of the population here in the state of texas is under a winter weather alert. that means that texans are cold, they are upset, they are, of course, wanting answers, and the reality is that no one is able to tell them when they're going to get their power back. fema and the white house is looking at this. they say they're monitoring the situation and bringing generators. they say they're bringing blank either and diesel to keep the infrastructure here in the state running and supporting that infrastructure. they say they'll help with things like hospitals and the water supply, but for texans, that is not enough. they want their power back and they want it as soon as possible. erin? >> camilla, thank you very much. i want to go to democratic representative eddie morales. tens of thousands of households in your district are still without power. it's been that way for many of your residents now for days.

representative, have you been able to get any answer as to when the power comes back out, even as i began the program they're worried about cascading blackouts at this moment? >> thank you for having me on. yes, we have not received an actual timeline of when my major metropolitan areas in house district 74 will get back power. we were informed but one of the service providers that sometime this afternoon -- they could not give us an compact timeline they were going to try to get del rio and eagle pass, the more urban areas in the 12 counties that i represent. it's important know that house district 74 is the largest house district in the state of texas and in the united states. it's actually bigger than 17 states. the demands and the needs of the constituents in my district are many, and we're not receiving the answers that we should expect.

>> so, as you're speaking, representative, you know, we just saw icicles hanging from a fan, empty grocery store shelves a few moments ago. i showed people burning a baby gate, something i saw on a twitter feed today. these are stunning images. when anyone sees this, you say, what? do you -- what are you hearing from your residents? how people are doing, what they're doing to get through this? >> it's exactly what you just pointed out. it's that drastic. unfortunately jeff davis is one of the counties i represent also. a family there, the family of robert rubio, jr., he recently passed away from covid two weeks ago. hi wife stephanie and the two kids were trying to stay home. they lost their home last night. that's the level of emergency that we find ourselves in, and also a dire situation that many of the constituents find

themselves in. thank got we were able to receive word from the county judge and one of the commissioners in jeff davis that now they have restored power to a large portion of the unincorporated down of port davis. >> governor abbott is calling for the resignation of the leaders of ercot, who oversees the power grid. is that where the blame lies? he also blamed democrats. obviously only 10% comes from green power, and it's used everywhere. so that doesn't add up. who is to blame here? >> yeah, exactly. look, this is not my point in time to point fingers. there will be a hearing of the board of directors from ercot on february 24th. i'm not worried about february 24th. i'm worried about provides electricity and water to my constituents now.

i have heard that. there's a lot of misinformation on social media. i've had to go on my social media and actually clear up that wind turbines did not cause this. only 7% of ercot's forecasted winter capacity was expected to come from various sources, wind sources. so that myth and misinformation is not acaccurate. then you end up politicizing the issue than addressing the needs of the constituents. i have people who have not even received water, because the water treatment plants don't have the electricity. they are now going on 72 hours in some areas that have not had power. this idea also of these rolling blackouts that are taking place, i'm not sorry to say they're not taking place in our district, so you have certain areas of the

community that have gone all 72 hours without electricity. >> representative, i appreciate your time. thank you very much. i hope people hear you loud and clear. >> thank you. i have to go to matthew dowd, the chief strategist for the bush-cheney campaign, he also lives in well betterly, texas. he's lost power and water. i know you've had to leave to try to go to a hotel where you still have these rolling power problems. so, first, matthew, right now three days in and the cold snap there, who is to blame from your understanding for what's happened? >> well, thanks, erin, for having me on. first of all, i'm more blessed than most. i have the capacity -- i grew up in michigan, so i have always bought a four-wheel-drive truck so i can help people the past few days. i was able to find a hotel 30 miles from my house to check

into. 15 minutes after i got into the hotel, the power went out. i'll have to go back home in the next few days to figure out frozen pipes and all of that. i'm totally willing to point fingers, and you have to point a finger at the governor of texas. it's a series of decisions that have been made over the last 10 or 20 years, including by this governor, who put the interests of others over the head of the community of texas. he for some reasons think whenever you have community action, it's a bad thing. he attributes it to socialism at a time when communities come together or ask government government to do something involved. the other thing i will say is we have dealt with leaders in the aftermath of not telling the truth, not being transparent with citizens and actually lying to them. we saw it in the flint water crisis where people died and citizens were lied to. we saw it in the midst of covid

where the president and other leaders didn't tell the truth. conspiracies consider started and insurrection happened at the capitol, and people died. now we're seeing it in the state of texas, where the governor is somehow dreamed up this idea of renewbles or the green new deal is somehow responsible, where every single fact points to his own lack of leadership. 9 green new deal is an idea. it hasn't been enacted in any way, shape or form. the representative said 7% of wind is used for the power. it does well in cold temperatures. you just have a winter package which texas failed to procure. this is texarkana. on one side it's paved. that's the arkansas side, and on the other side, it's not paved at all. charles peak from the weather

channel tweeted this out. arkansas could do it, and they're not used to it, either. this isn't an amorphous discussion about a grid. this is plowing the road. >> it's a perfect example. keep in mind arkansas is market of the eastern grid, so not only are they providing services better, but their power didn't go out like it did here, because they had capacity to go to other places to get it, which texas doesn't because we have this independent power grid that wasn't facilitated in a way to handle something like this. this goes completely to the point of -- in texas -- and we've done it nationally, but texas is a perfect example -- where we have kept taxes low, tried to attract businesses and tried to attract people here, but what we have done is complete le underfunded infrastructure and completely underfunded services to constituents. one thing, as i said.

i'm blessed, i'm in a more privileged position, the people receiving the worst of the effects are the most vulnerable. just as you know happened in covid. the people who suffered the most are the most vulnerable. many people who suffering the most because of the lack of leadership are the most vulnerable and most of them are people of color. >> i appreciate your time. matthew, thank you. you have lucky in many ways, but we hope you get that power on and can get back how many. just how effective the moderna and pfizer vaccines. plus trump called mitch mcconnell last night a hack, and now we now hoe mcconnell plans to respond. and why were federal investigators investigating roger stone's ties to the proud boys, even before the deadly siege on the capitol? s

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this setback. >>? a mock where every day it also underneathed coast the caution in temples of prediction, about when things about ramp up. theyened that every element of the products is subject to change and subject to something going wrong. that certainly seems to be, at least to some degree, the case here. the company is still say they expect to deliver between june and july. the administration process has ramped up their weekly dose distribution. 1.7 million vaccinations going out over the course of the last seven days, so the ramp-up is happening, but the reality is

when they get their approval, they can't provide the type of mass vaccinations needed to get the country near some type of herd immunity level. so every piece of this matters right now, erin. certainly this is an element of frustration for an administer trying to ramp up the entire infrastructure. >> thank you. i want to go to professor william hazel tine, and or abby phillip. thank to both. professor, slower than initially shot, you know, ten million doses, and this comes as dr. fauci has pushed back the timeline to the end of july. he wanted that to be april, now it's july. do you think the administration is being aggressive enough here?

>> when you're manufacture new drugs, new vaccines, you can't be sure what you're going to get at the beginning. these are complicated vaccines. johnson & johnson is a virus that in itself is complicated. you can't predict how much doses you will get. to me it's amaze ing. >> today obviously the cdc has been clear on this, they do not think that vaccination should be a predicate for teachers to go back. the vice president didn't go that far. and shortly after, jen sacck --

jen psaki said this. >> it's not a requirement, but they believe that teachers should be prioritized. >> reporter: she knows what the cdc said, but she's trying to stick with that. perhaps because the cdc was pretty clear you don't need teachers vaccinated, why can't they get this straight. >> exactly the same thing, which is that the cdc's recommendation is one things, that it is not a requirement for teachers to be vaccinated, but yes, we would also like for teachers to be prioritized. i think one haven't. >> they want vac that's to be a

pillar of the reopens plan. they also want a lot of other thing is teems there's a distinction on what they're willing to say through surrogates, and what biden and harris themselves are willing to say you know, tess end of the day, they campaigned on the science. professor, we know of a lot of variance, somewhere here in the united states. the ones we seem to know about are the more transmissible and

likely more deadly. the vaccines are effective, lesson -- how far ahead of things are we when you look at so many variants coming up and this thing mutating this quickly. it's rapidly evolves. the first thing that it's partially effective is very good news. we've seen indications that the higher the immunity you get from the vaccine, the broader their activity, but it's also a matter of time. over time the strength of the immunity drops somewhat, and the difference between the first strain you're vac nating against and the other strain gets wider. gets wider. >> yeah. >> that means it doesn't necessarily protect for going four months. so i think there's some questions on that score. there's also questions about how

many variance are out there. right now i count five major variants spreading. we have to know the answer for all of those. so it's a rapidly evolving situation. we're not going to know much more. we actually learned almost every day goes by we're learning more, how they're spreading. i'll just say one thing. people should, first of all get, get vaccinated and be even more -- they can get through the standard mask, and can infect children -- >> i think it's a lot of people seem to think a vaccine is, okay, i can go back to seeing friends and family. it's hard to here, but significant this is about the pushback that biden is getting from the left flank.

they wanted this massive -- he was asked about it, stood firm, today aoc and elizabeth warren were joined by chuck schumer, vowing to continue to fight on this. >> you know, biden ran on not signing on to a lot of these things, but particularly on the student loan issue, and that was reflected on how quickly and clearly he answered that question. for both sides i think it's important to make their positions clear. it doesn't hurt biden to say, i'm not for $a,000 in student loan forgiveness. he's trying to get somewhere of the center left and progressives themselves need to basically say we are pushing for our priorities. so i think on both sides it's important for them to do that, but we also have heard even before the election from some progressives who suggested that a narrow majority will almost force their hand. they know they don't want to

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tonight moving on, that's how senate minority leader mcconnell plans to respond to former president trump's scathing attack on him, where trump called him dour, sullen and unsmiling political hack and threatened to primary anyone not

on team trump. m manu, what are you learns more about tonight ? >> when mcconnell first saw the statement, i'm told he laughed at it. i'm told from multiple sources he's not going to engage, he wants to move on as he trying to navigate the republican party in the aftermath of donald trump. he focus will be on the senate primaries, trying to get republican candidates who he believes could win key races, also to unify the republican party against joe biden's agenda, but there's a problem. donald trump says himself he plans to interject and push candidates who are in his mold, something that can lead to a clash between trump forces and mcconnell force, as the party struggling to take the senate majority next week. kevin mccarthy who went down to mar-a-lago, tried to get back in

donald trump's good graces, and has contended that the party needs donald trump and will be unified with donald trump in trying to get back into the house majority. the difference between the two leaders underscores the deep divide in the aftermath of the impeachment trial, in which mcconnell voted to acquit him, but later blasted him, all of which was lid to the scathing rebuke from donald trump just last night, but this party is still trying to find a way forward, but mcconnell is saying let's just move on. i want to turn to john kasich. governor, senator mcconnell laughed. in all seriousnessu is saying he wants to ignore him, move on, consolidate the party, but trump is doing a bunch of interviews with niche outlets, right, to talk to his base, which has scared lindsey graham and

everyone else, running around to get behind him. is it just wishful thinking? >> i think he's absolutely doing the right thing in this case. ignore this bully. these threats that donald trump makes, well, i'm going to take you out -- you know what, when you are somebody who stands up against a bully, you have to build a strong foundation. that means you have to be out in the district, let people know what you're made of. you have to show leadership qualities. if you do that, you will win in most cases these primaries. i don't want these people shrinking into the corner saying my goodness, they may primary me. so what? stand up and be somebody. if you're somebody you're likely to be rewarded, because this collision is beginning to crack. >> governor, republican senator

lindsey grab, the sycophant in chief, and his efforts to think he's confusing any of us when he occasionally calls him out i think is the most offensive. here he is. >> president trump is the most consequence quenchally republican in the party. if mitch mcconnell doesn't understand that, he's missing a lot. i would say to senator mcconnell that trump can be a handledful, but we don't have a snowball's chance in hell of taking back the majority without donald trump. if you don't get that, you're just not looking. >> you're just not looking, governor? >> you know, erin, the problem with that argument is the republican party is shrinks, so many people are leaving and registering as independents. you can't be afraid of somebody.

they about this, erin. if they told you at your job that you can be an anchor, but we're going to tell you exactly what to say and what to think, you would be on the set for like five seconds and would leave. if you're a congressman, running for congress, for the senate, what, are you supposed to take orders from somebody else? some wizard of oz living in another reality? that's how you're going to run your life? shame on you. you can't do that. that applying to everybody, democrats as well as republicans. >> yeah. >> if you go into public service, do it for a reason. don't do it just so you can have power. power without principle is empty. >> it is. thank you so much, governor. i appreciate it. i always like talking with us. >> always good, erin. thank you. bye. we are learning that federal prosecutors were investigating robert stone's ties to the proud boys long before the siege.

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9 proud boys. the investigation is about whether they intended to threaten a federal judge. we have learned this today at cnn, a 2019 probe, all the way back then, liking at link. but its existence shows how prosecutors examined the far-right organization's ties to someone close to trump. this was an investigation well before the siege of the capitol, right, which of course the proud boys were a core part of. shimon prokopec is out outfront. tell us more. >> reporter: it's because of this renewed focus on the proud boys this new reporting from my colleague kaitlan collins has come to light. what she learned, back in 2019 while roger stone was facing charges here in washington, d.c. for lying to congress over the investigation involving the former president, there was an instagram posting that was made against a judge, and that some

viewed it as a threat, a possible threat against the judge, and the fbi and federal prosecutors were investigating that threat and its connection to the proud boys, because roger stone at the time said that the leader of the proud boys, enrique tario was doing some instagram posting for him, social media posting. as a result the fbi started looking into the connection between the proud boys and roger stone, erin. >> they are central to investigation around the capitol hill siege, right? then we see them, you know central to the siege on january 6th. has roger stone kept in contact with them since this investigation? >> reporter: that's a really good question. that is certainly something that investigators probably are trying to figure out. there's also this intersection that another part of what investigators are looking at is the proud boys, and a lot of what we heard about the oath

keepers. as we have seen in video recently that came to light, showing them with roger stone, who was here in washington, d.c. on the day of the insurrection, there's video of the oath keepers here, saying they were doing vip protection standing with roger stone. but roger stone has been known to have this affiliation with this group. that is certainly something that has concerned people close to him. i know people who i have talked to have been concerned about this. that is certainly something that investigators will probably be keeping an eye on. thank you very much. shimon. next, a democratic new york assemblyman claims that andrew cuomo threatened to destroy him, cuomo's team calling him a liar. this is all about the governor's handling of nursing homes during the virus. and the family of a man who took his life believes he may know what led to the officer's suicide. a seat at a piano recital.

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deaths in nursing homes. obviously anyone in this country is aware of the discussion over the nursing home situation in new york. assemblyman ron kim is back with me. assemblyman, i know this is an issue you've cared about for a long time, but please tell me about this call with the governor. >> you know, good to see you, erin. this happened last thursday evening around 8:00 after news broke that his top aide, his top aide had lied about hiding data information from the federal government for political reasons. she admitted to that in a private meeting, it was exposed the the governor called for about ten minutes, it seemed like one hour, berating that i have to issue a statement that invalidated what i heard. he asked me to lie to cover up

for his staff, and this was done in front of my family. he called me. my wife was next to me. i was right about to bathe my kids. it really just put, you know, m my family and my he will go out, he's been biting his tongue and destroy bad of person i am to everyone in public but it was just the yelling and at one point, he said and asked me if i was a

lawyer, and i said no, and he said you obviously then don't understand what you heard, and this is what you heard and this is what you're going to say. this is what you're going to write tonight and issue a statement, not tomorrow, tonight. that's how we will move forward. those are his words. >> okay. >> and -- yeah. >> no, i mean, it s's stunning. it's stunning. let me give everyone a chance to understand. they are pushing back. the statement says mr. kim is lying about his conversation with governor cuomo thursday night. i know because i was one of the three other people in the room when the phone call occurred. obviously on the governor eas eas eastside. that's beyond the pail and part of a year's long pattern of lies of mr. kim against this administration and put out a rush transcript of comments you made during the zoom call with

cuomo's aide and says it doesn't align to what you're saying now. what's your response? they are calling you a liar. >> governor qucuomo is good at implicating his aides and we. they did implicate us in the private meeting when his secretary melissa derosa admitted to hiding information and fear it would be weaponized against administration, fear that we would go back and legislate and repeal legal immunity, the stuff you and i have been talking about for months now, fear we would undo the policies. that's why they cover up the data and she admitted it. she said you want the truth? this is the truth. she said she hid that information. that is what the governor did and because i called out and refused to lie for them, now they get to threaten my career, my wife and make my wife in tears all night. my wife, you know, that night was very, very troubling because

we couldn't sleep and she's telling me what did you do to us? stop what you're doing. please. she was -- she feared for my future, for my life. that's the kind of shock that this governor gave to my family, and his administration should be apologizing to me right away, not spinning and distracting us from getting to the truth. >> appreciate your time and i want everyone to know, it is true you have cared about these issues about nursing homes. you were on the show in may talking about this very issue. thanks very much to you and i want everyone to know, we did invade governor cuomo and his senior advisor to come on the show tonight. they declined. two officers that fought the rioters at the u.s. capitol died by suicide and tonight an attorney for one of them believes he knows why the

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tonight the lawyer for one of the capitol police officers that died by suicide is seeking line of recognition duty. it is reserved for officers that they technically decide were killed in duty. there is no way the officer would have died if not for the

riot. jessica schneider is "outfront". >> we lost the line. >> reporter: newly revealed audio is protesters confronting the police officers. but days later after the violence died down, two officers who responded on january 6th killed themselves. one was metropolitan police officer jeffrey smith and leaves behind his wife erin. >> she was in atlanta with her parents and had to come back here to receive the contents of jeff's locker. you know, and that -- and that's what she's contending with. >> reporter: david weber is the family's attorney. he believes smith suffered brain trama from a blow to the head on january 6th and that may have

led to his suicide. >> i don't think there is any dispute that he was, that he was subjected to pretty extreme trama. >> reporter: now officer smith's wife erin is pushing to look at his passing as a line of duty death. the officer suicide can never be a line of duty death in d.c. >> officers are twice as likely to take their own life as be killed by the bad guys. this is something law enforcement needs to come to terms with and address this openly to change the culture and narrative. >> reporter: jeff mcgill is the founder of blue help, an out reach group for people affected by officer suicides. he says 150 officers lost their lives to suicide last year nationwide. and their families often receive no financial help. >> they're not getting support. they're not getting benefits. we get horrendous stories from widowers about how they were

treated, how they were immediately removed from the law enforcement family. >> the significance of the line of duty death is that ms. smith is now left where officer smith was the primary winner and the person with the health insurance. if it is not a line of duty death, she'll receive a lump sum payment of a small amount of money, which is not sufficient as a savings mechanism but it's also not appropriate under the facts and circumstances. >> reporter: capitol police officer howard killed himself days after january 6th, too and about 140 officers were injured as a result of the riot. on the senate floor last week, house impeachment manager david warned. >> several police officers reported self-harm in the days following the riot and in one case an officer voluntarily turned in her gun because she

was afraid of what might happen. >> reporter: d.c. officials have nod responded to our request for comment on this. we know that an officer suicide has never been declared a line of duty death in d.c. so it is unlikely that this one will be and erin, it is a question that will ultimately be determined on the d.c. police and fire retirement board. erin? >> it wouldn't have happened if he weren't there that day. hope they will do the right thing. thank you so much. thanks to all of you. anderson starts now. we have breaking news. hopeful news tonight on the effectiveness of the two publicly available covid vaccines even against new strains of the virus. dr. anthony fauci will be here live to talk about that in a moment. first, it's anything but a good evening for millions of americans without power tonight, some without heat or running water. for yet another record setting day, they are facing the harsh reality of cold temperatures in places unprepared. hardest hit is