is in the bill for so many americans in need. also tonight, house republicans that decided they had better things to do than be in washington to vote on the covid bill that's going to affect tens of millions of americans. at least a dozen lawmakers that said they could not be at the capitol due to the on going public health emergency oddly enough sought refuge in the same place, orlando, florida where they're taking part in conservative political action conference, or cpac, and just to give you the idea of the respect they have down there for the on going public health emergency, listen to this. >> everyone, when you're in the ballroom, when you're seated, you should still be wearing a mask so if everybody can go ahead, work on that. i know. i know it's not the most fun. [ shouting ] >> you have the right -- >> one of the cpac refugees is freshman north carolina

congress madison kathorn, with proxy voting democrats were asking for because the pandemic who was a private citizen said leaders show up. no matter. leaders. they won't be voting in person for that we go to ryan nobles. abby philip. what is the latest? >> anderson, it looks that this bill will pass. it could be late tonight into early tomorrow morning but democrats are confident that they have the votes. they would need 217 votes to pass. it means they could only lose three democrats if it were to cross the finish line. there is a chance maybe one, maybe two democrats do not vote in favor of the package and maybe one republican crosses over and votes with the democrats but right now, democrats expressing a lot of confidence particularly because the minimum wage hike is part of this house version. when it comes to the senate side, it's a different story. for now, it's part of it so democrats are confident they will pass that legislation later tonight.

>> abby, if the minimum wage increase is out of the equation, how much easier is it for the white house to get this bill passed? >> significantly easier. this is a bigger sticking point from a procedural perspective but also for some of the moderates who just maybe agree with increasing the minimum wage but perhaps don't agree with doing it in the timeline that was included in the bill and also perhaps at the rate that was included in the bill. so this takes that issue off the table and makes it much harder for them to push back on this and makes it easier for the biden administration to say all the rest of the stuff in here is necessary for the economy right now and i think that that's really kind of where the biden administration hoped to be at the end of the day. >> ryan, there is talk from some democrats about vice president harris and her capacity as president in the senate and over ruling the parliamentarian.

congresswoman ilman omar said the parliamentarian should be fired. to get it through. is any of that realistic at all? >> well, anderson, one thing you'll note about the members of congress who are making that suggestion is they are all members of congress who have absolutely no power when it comes to making that decision. it comes from the house side and progressives. senators who would be tasked with making a decision as bold as something like firing a parliamentarian or overruling her have said the exact opposite. the white house does not want to step outside the current rules and traditions of the united states senate, and even the most progressive senators, i know you'll have senator bernie sanders on later. he has not suggested they should take the step of overruling the parliamentarian or firing her. that seems like an unlikely course of action right now. it is good messaging for progressives in the house that want to show they are very serious about passing a minimum

wage. wage. but in reality, it is not going to happen. >> and abby, as we mentioned, you know, cpac is going on. you have republican lawmakers saying they couldn't vote in person because of the on going public health emergency and now they're there at cpac. is there any reason to think that gop leadership will be upset by that at all? >> no, i don't think so at all. i mean, look, the priority for the republican party and republican leadership especially in the house is to show to fealty to donald trump and that's what they are at cpac doing now. beyond that, they have shown very little interest in the bill in general. republicans are expecting to have pretty much unanimity in their opposition to this bill so they are trying to vote no and move on and i don't think they will care one way or another. it is embarrassing, though, in part because i think one of the messaging things for republican -- for democrats will be that republicans didn't care enough to show up on this issue one way or another on something you might disagree with the

details of the bill but idea that covid relief is not of paramount importance? i think everyone can agree on that. >> where does the battle over the minimum wage increase go from here? >> great question, anderson. something we pressed speaker nancy pelosi about this afternoon. the reality is in order for it to pass as a stand alone bill here on the senate side of the capitol, especially after the ruling for the senate parliamentarian, it needs 60 votes to get through a filibuster and republicans would certainly put up a filibuster at any attempt at a $15 minimum wage. the question becomes what avenue do you have to pass something like a minimum wage increase. there is the possibility some of the more moderate senators will offer a proposal with a slightly lower increase to the minimum wage, something like an $11 an hour minimum wage increase and perhaps you can get ten republicans on board with something on those lines, but at this point, those are preliminary discussions. other hope they have,

perhaps another reconciliation package comes through later in the year they can attach it to that. then again, they run into the same problems with the parliamentarian. there is a real problem now for democrats here. this is something they have gone specifically to voters and supporters and said they would push and accomplish. that is both the white house and them on the congressional side and right now they don't have an avenue to get there. >> thanks very much. joining us now, the independent senator from vermont, bernie sanders, chairman sanders, what happens with the $15 minimum wage now? the white house made it clear they will not push to overrule the parliamentarian. nor does it look like democrats have the votes to do that. where does it go from here? >> we're looking at alternative, it says if you're a large corporation making a lot of money, you should not pay your workers starvation wages. walmart is owned by the wealthiest family in this

country worth 200 billion and starting off workers at $11 an hour. mcdonald's, burger king, large corporations are doing the same thing. we think through a tax provision which says if you're not paying your workers a living wage of $15 an hour, you're going to have to pay more in taxes. we think that is an approach. it is not the ideal approach but an approach that will raise minimum wage for the millions of workers. look, at the end of the day, anderson, what is so upsetting about the parliamentarians decision, you have 60% out of the american people want to raise that minimum wage. to $15 an hour. the house already passed that legislation. president wants it. we have the votes in the senate. yet, an unelected staffer if you like of the senate decides that 30 million people cannot get a wage increase, and that deals with the archaic and undemocratic rules of the senate. it's another issue.

it's something that we have to deal with. >> yeah, to your point, cnn reported the senate majority leader schumer would penalize large corporations, insert that in the bill, and you floated that yesterday. i know senators joe manchin and kyrsten sinema indicated they kirsten cinema indicated they would not vote for a covid bill that would increase. >> i don't think that's quite accurate, anderson. it's complicated. it deals with democratic politics. in my view at the end of the day, the question is will every democrat support the president? will every democrat vote for a $1.9 trillion bill that provides $1,400 to every working-class person and their children which greatly expands health care and cuts childhood poverty by 50%, which opens up summer programs for kids all over this country, which provides aid for cities and state across america. i think every democrat will vote the right way and the vice president will give us the vote we need. >> how do you pick which

corporations would be penalized? >> you know, we're working out the details but you have a situation going back to walmart as i think the poster child. this is a family that is incredibly wealthy. one of their owners spends zillions of dollars on antique cars and they have mansions and art collections but somehow or another they can't pay the starting wage at more than $11 an hour. same thing for mcdonald's and burger king and dollar general. there is a way to do it. to be honest with you, i would obviously prefer to have a simple minimum wage of $15 over a four-year period. that's the easy way. with that set back yesterday, we have to figure out another way to raise wages because in my view, when we talk about the economy, anderson, i would say probably the most distressing aspect of where we are today is that half of our people, half of our people are living paycheck to paycheck.

their car breaks down, they're in serious financial trouble. millions of people are working for starvation wages. minimum wage today nationally is $7.25 an hour and to my mind, people can disagree with me if they want, that is a starvation wage. hasn't been raised by congress since 2007. we got to take care of low income workers in this country. the right thing to do. >> you said there is no way to stand alone bill on a $15 an hour minimum wage would pass and the only way to get it done is end the filibuster meaning you only need a simple majority 51 votes to get passed. if reconciliation is a dead end, should democrats be pushing to end the filibuster? >> i personally think so. >> looks like we have a problem with the transmission unfortunately on senator sanders. see if we can get it back. i want to thank the chairman. next, cpac and what it reveals of the political party in the grip of the lies that

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it stands guard in a booth at cpac in orlando. it's actually apparently a replica. the creator says the real item is in a tampa warehouse and is quote, little rat quote literally priceless. end quote. i don't know what that means. real or phony, if a comparison makes sense, the followers worshipping a replica golden idol fits right in with moments like this. >> how is it going, cpac? [ cheers ] >> i heard someone earlier phrase it a little bit better, tpac. >> get it? donnie junior might be right about this one. probably is. senator cruz was happy to second the notion but not before dumping on texas constituents who literally froze to death that other time he fled the state. >> i got to say orlando is awesome. it's not as nice as cancun.

but it's nice. >> these kids today with their jokes. so with that as the opener, he got straight to the bottom line and kissed it. >> let me tell you this right now, donald j. trump ain't going anywhere. [ cheers ] >> and the republican party is not the party just of the country clubs. >> not just the party of country clubs. an odd thing to say about a man who owns a string of country clubs and these days is living in one. never mind. he's as right as dj tj who the party belongs to. the conference schedule speaks loudly to that point, shot through with panels and speakers pushing the election lie. such as senator cruz who tried to overturn the electoral vote

and josh hawley of course did the same after the mob he raised a fist in solidarity to after laid siege to the capitol. he objected that evening to the electoral count and mischaracterized it today in orlando. >> i stood up, and i said, i said, we ought to have a debate about election integrity. >> keeping him honest, that's not what he stood up to. he stood up and objected the certified electors of pennsylvania and arizona based on false and debunked narratives, lies to be precise which senator hawley, cruz and many others made into their religion complete with that golden idol. jim acosta attended the conference and joins us now. jim, besides getting yelled at, what are you hearing from cpac leaders how it's going so far? >> reporter: anderson, i felt like a dentist today because i

was pulling teeth trying to get cpac leaders and attendees to admit to the fact that the president, former president donald trump did not win the 2020 election. and to admit he had anything to do with the violent insurrection at the capitol on january 6th. you talked to people like matt who runs this conference. you talk to the regular run of the mill attendee. they refuse to admit to any of these things. take for example a bit of this exchange i had with matt earlier today just refusing to concede this issue that donald trump continues to lie about the election in 2020. here is how it went down. >> are you concerned about having the president back here at cpac where he's going to continue to say that the election was stolen from him when that just isn't true? >> are there any illegal ballots cast in that election? >> i suppose there might have been. >> how many? >> you said there was illegal in the last election, you don't

know how many, did you sit down -- let me finish. did you sit down with a team in nevada or georgia or these states and ever go through the binders of information that good patriotic americans came up with? >> not enough to overturn the results of the election. >> how can you know that if you don't know the number? are you that good at math? >> joe biden won by 7 million votes, 306 electoral votes. there is just no way that is physically possible. >> and so, it continued like that, anderson. i tried to ask did donald trump have anything to do with the violence at the capitol? he refused to concede that, as well. it just went on all day long, talking to attendee after attendee, and anderson, as we talked to matt sclap, you referenced the hairiness we got into, there were trump supporters getting irate trying to give us hell with questions about all sorts of different things and their complaints

about cancel culture at this cpac, anderson, it seemed like they wanted to cancel us and not let us do our jobs here. >> so the former president is going to speak sunday. any -- is there a sense of what -- i mean, we all know what he says over and over again so i assume it will be the same thing he would normally say. >> reporter: that's right. obviously, he's going to rip into joe biden. they see this as a coming out party for the former president. he's obviously going to tease this crowd with the idea that he may run for election in 2024. he is going to pedal the big lie the election was stolen from him, which we know isn't the case. anderson, it's once again going to be a strange through the looking glass type of moment for this country because here you have a former president typically as you know, anderson, former presidents when they lose elections, they usually retire from the scene. they go off to california or, you know, florida wherever and retire and enjoy the post presidency.

donald trump is not going to do this. he is fixated on two things, revision and revenge, revision that he wants to put across to supporters out there this notion that not only did he win the election and that this election was stolen from him -- from joe biden but that somehow he had nothing to do with the violence at the capitol on january 6th, which is just a lie. just another one of his lies. and anderson, you know, for all the talk of cancel culture, it was sort of like cult culture is what we observed. they literally rolled in a golden statute of donald trump at this cpac conference. it's bizarre to see the idolizing of this former president and the fashion that we're seeing it but that is today's republican party and donald trump is the head of that party until somebody pulls it from him. >> it's interesting to hear donnie trump junior talk about it and echoing what he said

january 6th to that crowd in washington that morning where he said that this was -- this is trump's party and that anybody who especially doesn't bow to trump, that they're going to be primary and go after him. >> reporter: that's right. and the former president announced he's going to support a republican candidate in ohio who is primarying a republican house member who voted to impeach the then president at the time. anderson, i mean, this is, you know, this is a party that is almost trying to ride on the back of the insurrection to 2024. we saw josh hawley today defending his attempt to overturn the election, defending his decision to side with the house members that wanted to overturn the results of the election and got a standing ovation from the crowd at cpac.

it is an alarming sight to see that there is just no sense of remorse, no sense that anybody is sorry outside this trump movement, this trump base about anything that took place on january 6th and that people died and when i tried to talk to matt schlapp about this, he'll say again and again donald trump had nothing to do with it despite we all watched that unfold on television. >> busy trying to rewrite history. jim acosta, appreciate it. thank you. perspective from amanda carpenter and scott jennings . >> this is trump's party. the coverage of cpac feels like 2016 where everyone is looking at the panels and looking at the outrageous things people are saying and what is trump going to say next? it's different.

it's different for why jim explained. it's different because of the insurrection. i watch what is happening and it's just really hard to come to terms with and i've talked with many republicans who kept going along with trump-ism until the end because after he lost in november, they thought this will resolve itself and go away. yeah, he's going to fight it and say stupid stuff but there will be a chance to reset after the certification on january 6th. but the insurrection changed all that. it has changed everything for the republican party because looking at what is happening at the conference, people like josh hawley and ted cruz are essentially campaigning on it and they know that it's trump's republican party but they're hoping for second place on that poll finisher and they do the ballots and who can be a good 2024 contender. this is a party that is okay with an insurrection. mitch mcconnell said yesterday

sure. if trump is the 2024 nominee, i'll support him. so people republicans of good conscience can't go with this have to consider other options. it may be working with democrats more or backing liz cheney and make sure she has a voice and not run out of the party for daring to speak her mind because what we're doing now is not working. look at cpac. >> scott, i remember you said not long ago on this program the republican party needed to get unified and focused and dispatch with the crazy. it seems like they're at least right now leaning into the crazy. >> yeah, you can see how influential i am on these panels. i don't care for what i've seen out of some of the speeches and i don't care for the fact -- for most of my professional career, amanda as well, republicans have been known as the conservative

party. our party had a platform, which i didn't bother to write last year. i'm not sure what formulations platforms and issues we're known for. move the party to the left on a number of things. not everything but a number of things. now we define ourselves by being anti, anti media, anti liberal, anti democrat, even anti republican. i mean, ted cruz is trying to lop off every white collar worker who sits in a cube kill in america. so instead of being anti and trying to shrink this club, and grows the club. it's not working and and we cannot afford politics of subtraction. fraction and the opposite of what they're doing. >> i mean, scott brought up which is my next question to you, what do republicans stand for now?

from cpac we're hearing about president biden gaining ground in swing states on election night and disguising themselves as trump supporters on the day of insurrection. what are republicans? >> i mean, it's supporting trump, right? developing a media network. essentially, the media is the party for them. it's all they pretty much care about. cancelled culture. i mean, josh hawley talks about he can't have his pick of book publishers, right? it's just about getting privilege status in society. i do think there is some inklings of policy debates down there about anti masking and opening up businesses but the speakers that went down there to talk about that perhaps and should happen about coronavirus spending relief and how we can deliver that aid and instead, people are skipping out votes in the house so that they can go down and be part of trump's republican party instead of doing their job in washington because for a lot of show

boaters, it's about making their voice heard and making a statement and not much else. >> scott, i got to ask you about your thoughts on senate minority leader mitch mcconnell. i want to play for the viewers what he said after the former president was acquitted and as amanda mentioned, what he said on fox. >> president trump's actions preceded the riot for a disgraceful, disgraceful dereliction of duty. this was to intensify conspiracy theories orchestrated by the out going president to torch the institutions on the way out. president trump is responsible for everything he did in office as an ordinary citizen.

unless the statute of limitations. he's liable for everything he did. >> if he was the nominee, would you support him? >> the nominee of the party? absolutely. >> so scott, how does one figure that out? obviously, mcconnell is known as a tactical master of the senate. i don't know if there's strategy. or hope trump isn't the nominee. and has to say he'd support him. what do you think? >> well, i think couple things. number one, i'm just going to put my mcconnell explainer hat on here. he's an outcomes based politician and for most of his career, he has preferred, in fact, all of his career he preferred there to be a republican in the white house to sign legislation republicans in the white house would send over. that's what happened for the four years of trump. that doesn't mean he agreed or get along or play golf together or whatever. it did mean he got outcomes that he preferred. i think amanda made a good point, everything for me changed

on january 6th but for mcconnell, despite the rhetoric and back and forth, his entire career is being defined by having republican leadership. the position of the statements is difficult for me to look at to be candid with you but at the same time, i'm looking around the rest of the party wondering who else is trying to enforce a policy outcomes based platform except for mitch mcconnell? i'm torn about what i'm seeing. for me, it's outcomes. >> appreciate it. thank you. there is information on the death of brian sicknick. "new york times" is report ing the fbi pinpointed but not identified an assailant. they suspected his death was something he inhaled like mace or bear spare but they have a person seen on video who attacked several officers with bear spray including officer

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today the cdc director called the current state of the fight against the virus tenuous. the numbers are not falling but plateauing. they are still very high numbers. according to dr. walensky, we may be seeing the beginning effects of the variants first seen in other countries and now here in the united states. we'll get perspective from dr. sanjay gupta and a former coronavirus advisor of the president's transition team. so sanjay, the johnson & johnson vaccine we expect to be approved tomorrow. will they face an optics battle because some of the numbers flying around without context, will that be a major hurdle? >> i think it's a little battle. i don't know there will be a major hurdle. i think it got to be explained well but what people often see is one number and they pit it against another number and say that is more effective. i'll have that one.

we can put the numbers on the screen. it's worth explaining again. it is true that if you look at the johnson & johnson numbers and how they sort of performed around the world, that you do see a lower effective. they paid attention to the number on the right side of the screen. 85% protection against severe disease. no hospitalizations in a month. no deaths at all. that's the sort of peace of mind i think people want from these vaccines. also, anderson, it's a point but the johnson & johnson vaccine was trialed at a different time and in different places as compared to other vaccines. i was trialed against a more serious disease. if you take the moderna and pfizer and trial them in the same place, they would be similar. maybe an optics battle. >> you've been vaccinated but would you get this one if you hadn't?

>> i would absolutely get it. that sort of protection and no hospitalizations, no deaths. one thing i will say, i think it may be thoughtful to say you have one-shot vaccine. it doesn't need the super cold storage. maybe the cdc will say, look, for people who are more transient and homeless and less likely to show up for a second shot. for some it's convenience, for some it may be necessity. >> dr. gander, do you see that the same community gets served by the other two approved vaccines or, you know, is sanjay's point it's better to focus on people who may not be able to make it for two shots? >> i think whatever vaccine you can get is the vaccine that is for you. my colleagues on the advisory board to the biden, harris transition team published an op ed specifically on this point

about a week or so ago because we anticipated that this was going to be the discussion, you know, is there one of these vaccines that's better than the other and quite frankly, if you look at the outcomes that matter, so preventing hospitalization, preventing death, if you wait 28 days after receiving the johnson & johnson vaccine, that is equivalent 100% protective against hospitalization and death and that's what you get after two doses of pfizer and moderna vaccines and wait a couple weeks after that. this is highly efficient. one dose and i think it will really depend on what different providers are equipped to deliver to different populations. >> you know, sanjay, i heard from the head of the cdc saying the covid case and death count declined which we've been seeing is leveling off at a high number. she said it was a concerning shift. it just, to me, it's such a reminder that every time we see

some improvements, it feels like things are loosened and we see another rise in numbers are plateauing. >> yeah, it is a constant roller coaster, you know, for sure, anderson and i think this has made us humble saying look, we're out of woods or definitely continue to go down. i'd like to continue to see these numbers for another week or so to understand if this is really a trend. i think that everyone is talking about the variants. when we look at models on variants, they are of concern but the numbers from the sequencing we've seen aren't so high yet. if that happens, it will be march. the big question, anderson, something we've been talking about for a year now, if the case numbers do go up and they may, will you get a corresponding sort of increase

in hospitalizations a few weeks later and corresponding increase in deaths? you're likely to see increase in hospitalizations and deaths but because there is increased immunity there, hopefully, it will be lower number, lower proportion than what we've seen in the past. >> dr. gander, is there a magic formula to determine how quickly people need to get vaccinated to out pace the spread of variants? >> we don't have that formula because we're also dealing with different variants, the one that is spreading most widely accounts for 10% of covid cases in the u.s. right now. that's the u.k. variant and then there are others that are of concern, one out of south africa and brazil that are much more rare right now that may become more common later in the summer, but i think right now the message is we're not out of the woods yet. we just need to be a little more patient for more people to get vaccinated. the vaccine supply is going to open up dramatically come the

spring and into the early summer and i think by the midsummer, every american who wants to get vaccinated will be able to. >> all right. dr. selene gander and sanjay, thank you. just ahead, how the big lie about a stolen election you'll hear promoted is filtered down to the former president's most loyal supporters. you'll hear what these voters have to say about the election and qanon when we return. when y? i want free access to research. yep, td ameritrade's got that. free access to every platform. yeah, that too. i want to know what i'm paying upfront. yes, absolutely. now offering zero commissions on online trades.

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cybereason. end cyber attacks. from endpoints to everywhere. as we demonstrate earlier in the broadcast, republican leaders and makers at cpac are in with a big lie about the election. is that a reality? that trickle the down to those who support the president and

the white house is imminent. we are joined with more on this fantasy. >> reporter: hey, anderson. yes, it is essentially becoming the qanon caucus and seeing it from coast-to-coast. we're seeing it at cpac in orlando, florida this weekend and last weekend. we spoke to trump supporters, many of whom believe the conspiracy theory. have a watch. these trump supporters are in denial what happened on january 6th and some believe in qanon. >> who is going to happen at some point there will be arrests and that will include media -- >> they keep saying that. for years and it's not happened. >> it hasn't been years. >> since 2017. it's been years. >> this is 6,000-year-old death cult. you can't take it down that quick. >> i understand you're very passionate trump supporter, right?

you surely -- you surely can admit that the people who stormed the capitol were trump supporters. >> no, i definitely cannot. you're talking to the right person. i can show footage that was all the left. the blm dressed up as trump supporters. >> come on. >> it is my hope that president trump comes back as the 19th president of the united states under the 1776 and that he is inaugurated on march 4th. that is my hope. for our future. >> some have bought into a new conspiracy theory trump will return as the nineteenth president on march 4th. they misinterpreted an 1871 law and believes grant inaugurated on march 4th, 1869 was america's last legitimate president. it may sound bizarre but online

discussion about march 4th is a contributing factor about keeping the national guard in washington d.c. will you feel foolish on march 5th when biden is still president? >> trump has a different plan in play. >> reporter: everybody keeps saying trump has a plan. >> he didn't lose the election, sir. trump did not lose the election and that's where we differ. >> reporter: all right. >> and that's where i believe the information that mike lindell has put out. >> reporter: the pillow guy. >> of all the abuse, corruption, stealing -- >> reporter: you trust the man more who sells pillows than the republican officials in georgia? >> oh, absolutely. >> reporter: do you realize that sounds -- >> well, let me just tell you that the people in georgia are sick -- >> reporter: while most of the world looks on in horror at a

deadly military coup in myanmar, that's exactly what these trump supporters hope to see happen here in the united states of america. >> this whole thing is biden, he's like a puppet president. the military is in charge. it's going to be like myanmar, what's happening in myanmar. the military is doing their own investigation. at the right time they're going to be restoring the republic with trump as president. >> what's going on in myanmar? the government took over and they're redoing the election. you know why? because the election was stolen from us. >> i never would have believed cnn would give me a chance to speak the truth, what a miracle, praise god. >> reporter: but we're going to say in our report that qanon is a conspiracy theory. >> i know it isn't. i'm not much for believing, i have to know. >> donie, just fascinating, as always. you've been covering qanon and folks who believe in this for at least a year.

you were at the capitol on january 6th. is there any change in the tone you're hearing? you and i discussed this, there was some thought about some people leaving qanon once biden was elected because they realized nothing they had been promised has come to pass, but like the lady in the piece, they just change what the prediction is supposed to be. >> reporter: exactly. and when trump doesn't become the 19th president next week, they'll move on to something else as well. i found it very concerning last weekend when we were speaking to these folks, particularly when they were talking about myanmar and celebrating the military coup there and wanting to see that happen here in the u.s. you listen to that, it is obviously a ridiculous and bizarre conspiracy theory but we know from the 6th of january, this isn't all just rhetoric, a lot of it can lead to action. it doesn't seem like it's going away. >> donie o'sullivan, thank you very much.

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>> sunday night take a trip over seas without leaving your couch. searching for italy.

he's taking viewers to six of his face-tvorite places in ital. i spoke to him ability his latest prong and what you can expect sunday night. >> you are taking us to bo log na. i'm a huge fan of rome and venice. it's the food capitol of italy. >> it bridges the gap between the north and south. and east to west. >> what do you have to eat? >> certainly you have to eat --

which is. >> it's my go to. spa getty. in a place and i want some comfort and a sense of normality. >> it makes you happy. it is. it's comforting. >> i feel like i know what it's a big mac. >> it's exactly like a big mac. and the opposite. >> very polite. thank you. do you have a favorite city at this point in the italy? >> no. i can't say i do. i'm more -- i'm very attracted. my family is from the south. i'm very attracted to northern italy. and i like the change of season. and i also think that the cuisine is so interesting.

you can sometimes depending on where you are eat something that tastes distinctly german or french. there's not a tomato in sight. and barely a drop of olive oil. it's butter and cheese. it's buckwheat. it's completely different than the diet of the south. >> thank you so much. tune in to a new episode. sunday 9:00 p.m. right here on krn. cnn .

>>. >> the magic is through passion. and obviously one of the truths as mike told me. the famous director and producer. one of the truths is everybody loves italian food. stanley showing how it is part of the culture. they are doing a beautiful job. what would you be eating? >> >> don't you have a show, don't you have something to do? >> i do, but who wants to pass up a chance to talk to you? have a great weekend. i am chris cuomo, welcome to "prime time." there really is more light ahead of us now than darkness. there will be tough times. we're not out of this. but there is cause for hope.