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a normalcy is not for everyone. i'm michael smerconish in philadelphia. how are you feeling about a return to normal presidency? you know, calm discussions with foreign leaders, empathy in times of tragedy, lack of personal ethical moral or legal scandal. political divisions based on policy disagreements, not personal hatred and destruction. yes, we're still in the midst of multiple crises and a pandemic in which the house just voted to approve president biden's $1.9 trillion pandemic aid package. but normalcy is not for everyone. tomorrow in orlando, former president trump will address the conservative political action conference, it is an event that could offer an early window into the party's 2024 presidential contest. cpac is attracting some of trump's staunchest allies
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including rick scott, matt gaetz, mike lee, ted cruz, josh hawley, tom cotton, kevin mccarthy, ron desantis, mike pompeo, ben carson and sarah huckabee sanders. but the star will be the former reality star. and everybody there knows it. >> donald j. trump ain't going in addition. [ cheers ] >> this is amazing given that trump's long sought tax returns are now in the hands of prosecutors under the direction of new york district attorney cyrus vance jr. his office obtained millions of pages of financial documents that contain tax returns spanning 2011 to 2019, this after the u.s. supreme cour denied trump's effort to keep them private. for two years vance has been investigating whether trump and the trump organization engaged
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in frauds and other schemes including potentially providing false information to financial institutions or banks about the value of certain assets. the records could be critical to the investigation because they are likely to contain documents that reflect the decision making behind the valuation and tax writeoffs which could be important to determine whether there was intent to commit a crime. investigators will review the documents before calling key witnesses before the grand jury. vance however is not expected to run for re-election. and with just ten months left in his term, the big enkunknown is will he charge a crime or close the investigation before he leaves office. will he leave the decisions to his successor. it seems likely that should trump face charges, his nemesis will be someone who is unknown. there are eight democratic candidates running to be manhattan's next district attorney. no republicans running.
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and each one refused to answer when asked if they would commit to prosecuting crimes committed by former president trump and the trump organization. had they weighed in, should any case go to trial, a judge could find that the campaign statements made by the new district attorney tainted the jury pool and in that case legal ethics experts say that the judge could transfer the case out of manhattan or even remove the prosecutor from the case. if vance brings criminal charges in the trump investigation, the next d.a. will inherit a very complex case. every big step would need the district attorney's approval including plea deals, additional charges, even its cven witnesse would take years to wrap it up. but none of this seems to persuade those gathering at cpac. bill maher addressed the larger implications of trump's upcoming speech. >> the shark went out to sea for
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a while, it will come back, and eat more people on the shore. >> maybe we'll need a bigger boat. i want to know what you think. go to smerconish.com and answer the question, will taxes spoil trump's return? joining me now to discuss is daniel alonzo, former federal plr wh prosecutor. now he is a partner at buckley which is a d.c. law firm. counselor, thanks for being here. you know cy vance. any prospect that he runs again? >> great to be with you. there is certain a prospects that he runs again because he hansz no has not announced, but he hasn't baby been fundraising and so highly unlikely. but certainly still a sliver of a possibility. >> so in a case of this magnitude and complexity, is it
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conceive aceivable that it coul wrapped up meaning a decision whether charges will be brought before the end of his term? >> certainly it is a complex very. i understand that there are millions of pages that they got to say nothing of what they have gotten from deutsche bank or the lenders. there may be other learneds they have been gathering records from all over the place. so it could take time to analyze, but it is certainly possible and i'm sure that they are working towards trying to make a decision before the end of this year. >> i recognize you're on the sidelines like the rest of us. but you have a remember trained eye and experience. where do you think former president trump faces the most peril in this investigation? >> well, let me make it a breerd q bre broader question. he faces peril in multiple
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jurisdictions. but stormy daniels payment is a discreet set of facts. and if they can get over one weird hurdle in new york on the falseification of business records, that could have legs. michael cohen was reimbursed by the trump organization and presumably the trump organization did not correctly list the information in their records. and there is that recording of cohen and trump talking about one of the payments. so i think that that could be a discreet case of falsification of business records assuming that they can prove the felony count which the statute of limitations hasn't yet expired. the other stuff, it is certainly very much who investigating. there are discrepancies between what they are telling the insurance companies and banks and tax authority, very substantial, and search reason to investigate. but as understand, you can you can prove intent, you won't have
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a criminal case. and so i think a lot of that remains to be seen. there are -- there is a lot of evidence, a lot of people to talk to, and there have been accountants and lawyers presumably who were all involved in this, so -- >> but do you think that if all cy vance has, and we're just spits balling here, but if all he has in the end is the stormy daniels aspect, you know, and the accounting issue relative to a payment to a stripper, do you think that he would bring those charges? i mean, i think in the course of public opinion it would be regarded as bill clinton and the intern. you know, lying about that. well, some would say of course lying about that. >> you know, it is a great question. but the characters were worth bringing against michael cohen. we do have the principle that no one is above the law. so i'm not sure it is fair given that michael cohen didn't exactly do it for his own benefit that if there is a provable crime against trump, and i emphasize if, that they
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wouldn't charge him for the same thing. >> i was eager to pursue this today because to me, this disconnect between so many republicans already throwing in their lot for 2024 as evidenced by what is going on at cpac while i think that it was a pretty stunning development that those long sought tax returns this weekended up in the hands of a prosecutor. final question for you. would this not be the most impossible case to ever see a jury? >> no, it is not impossible. it would be far and away the highest profile case that certainly the new york state supreme court in manhattaning has ever seen. perhaps the city of new york and programs the country. so it would be difficult logistically challenging and trump is well-known to litigate with scorched earth tactics. so who knows what kinds of
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things he might try. but these are seasoned prosecutors both inside the office and the special ada that d.a. vance brought in recently. so, you know, they know how to handling these kind of things. that said, it is unprecedented. but certainly this could go to trial in theory. also one last thing i want to say, it is not necessarily donald trump, right? he may not be the defendant. they may not have enough on these accounting issues to charge him, they may have enough to charge the trump organization or other executives including the kids or others at the organization. or the cfo. so there are lots and lots of unknowns here and i wouldn't assume that the defendant is definitely going to be donald trump. >> it is a good point. daniel alonzo, thanks so much for your time. >> great to be with you. what are your thoughts? i will read some responses throughout the course of the program. from the world of facebook, i think, cruz is paving the way for his run in 2024 when d.t. is in jail. i think you make an interesting
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observation which is to say when i look at tom cotton or josh hawley, when i look at the whole slew of the names that i identified, i think that to your point probably thinking in the same terms that i'm referencing, which is to say, hey, go present yourself to the cpac crowd as being loyal to donald trump and if this other issue that i was just discussing pans out, then you will be poised, you know, at the altar to be the successor. i think that that is probably on a lot of their minds. and interesting as well that former vice president pence is not going. probably on the theory that he figures hey, i can't influence this process so long as trump is still the titular head of the party. go to smerconish.com, answer this week's survey question. will taxes spoil trump's return? you get the pun, right? unahead, in a new gallup poll, the number of americans ages 18 to 23 identifying as lgbtq is 16%. that is nearly three times the
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rose to 4.1%. last year it rose to its highest point at 5.6%. why the spike? it could have something to do with gen z. 1 in 6 gen z results in 2020 identified as lgbt. how can the number be almost 16% among 18 to 23-year-olds but only 5.6% among all adults? here so help analyze the data points is the research directs tore at the williams institute at the krchlt lucla school of l. so thanks for being here. what is going on with gen z? >> thank you for having me. that is a great question. what i can say is that the 5.6% is not a surprise. as you noted, there has been a positive linear trend in the percentage of the population that will self identify as lgbt on a survey.
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we've even lized oanalyzed othe collected in 2017 and 2018 and found similar percentages will identify as lgbt as compared to gallup collected at that same time point. and we've seen an increase in the percentage of people that i had gidentify as lgbt in many data sets. so we think that this trend is real and the biggest increases that we see as you noted are among young people. among gen z folks, and even those currently in high school. so in 2015, just 8& of youth iden identified, but it is now up over 11%. >> and it is really amazing when you break it down by generation. let's put that slide back up so that people can see what i'm referring to. and i love that the ages are there because i can never keep straight what is a millennial or
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gen z, et cetera. here is what i'm showing the audience. age 75 and older, only 1.3% identify as lgbt. baby boomers, 57 to 75, 2%. gen x, 41 to 56-year-olds, 3.8%. millennials, 9.1. and then gen z, 15.9%. so why is it changing? >> that is a great question. first i want to say that the pattern that you articulated is also seen in federal data as well in the behavioral risk factor and youth risk behavior survey. so this is not just a gallup phenomenon. what i believe that we're seeing is that the underlying group of people in the population who experienced same gender attraction are more likely to
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act on that attraction and to have relationships with people of the same gender or different genders as well, a lot of people are bisexual. and this is an actual change in how people feel sexual attraction, but just their willingness and cocomfort and a to come out and live as an lgbt or transgender person. >> in other words, with acceptance by society comes more openness to discussing this subject. here is something that else that i as a layperson took away from the numbers. why are women and girls more likely to identify as bisexual than men and boys? because there seems to be a big disconnect in the bisexual identification broken down by gender. >> that is a great question. and here i'll offer some
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informed speculation. we do see about 75% of youth and gen z folks who are lgb are female, are bisexual, and about three quarters, maybe two-thirds depending on the age group are female. i think that it is about the acceptability of being bisexual, whether people view being bisexual for girls as a deviation from femininity or not, i think that it is probably more acceptable and people are not seen violating gender norms in the same way that boys are who is bisexual or guy. so i think that it is about how acceptable society feels that it is for girls to be involved with girls or boys with boys. >> so what do the numbers end up? when there is sufficient acceptance that everyone feels comfortable in identifying the
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answer, you know, where does the data finally stop. does there continue to be an uptick in all of those numbers? take might have final 20 seconds on where do we end up. >> we need more information about same gender sexual attraction in big representative data sets. but i will say that even though the percent. population that is identifying at lgbt is increasing, where we're not seeing significant changes are around istanbully i bullying in high schools. and so that is why making sure that schools are safe places both high school, colleges, middle schools, is a critical next step. >> what a great message. your point is there has not been sufficient acceptance, that some aren't being bullied. thank you for bringing that to our attention. >> my pleasure. >> up ahead, opoid overdoses
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killed many in 2017. but despite that, a self dedescribed haeroin user i'll b speaking with. plus the nuclear football, it is arguably the most important briefcase in the world. it is the only thing a president needs to launch a nuclear attack because nobody else's input is required. but at least 30 house democrats say it is time to change those rules. >> my fellow americans, i'm pleased to tell you that i signed legislation that will outallow russia forever and begin bombing in five minutes.
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sought justification from the biden administration for thirst's air strikes in syria including bernie sanders of vermont who warned against the president overreaching in his powers to declare military action saying while the president has a responsibility to defend the people of the united states, our constitution is clear that it is the congress not the president who has the authority to declare war. white house press secretary jen psaki said the administration had conducted a legal review before strikes, that is not the only debate regarding presidential authority over military action. the president of the united states has the sole authority to launch a nuclear attack. but 31 house democrats signed a letter on honest asking president biden to change the nuclear attack decision-making process. the letter was written by jimmy panetta. and it says in part vesting one person with this authority entails real risks. past presidents have threatened to attack other countries with
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nuclear weapons or exhibited behavior that causes other officials to express concern bts president's judgment. the nuclear system is designed to respond to a president's launch order instantly. the president would give a verbal command who then opens the nuclear football. and within minutes missiles would leave their silos. during the cold war, there wasn't a second to waste, but these house dems want additional safe guards, writing while any president would presumably consult with advisers before ordering a nuclear attack, there is no requirement to do so. the military is obligated to carry out the order if they assess that it is legal under the laws of war. joining me now is retired air force general c. robert taylor as commander of the united states strategic command from 2011 to 2013. and he was directly responsible to the secretary of defense and president for all plans and operations of all u.s. forces
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conducting global, strategic deterrence, nuclear alert, global strike, space and more. general, thank you so much for being here. in your role as commander, did you ever second guess the process? >> good >> good morning to you and thanks for having me. and no, i had great confidence in the process and i still believe that it is sound. i welcome the conversation about looking at the process. that is something that we've done many times over the years, but i think that we have to be very careful that we don't skro d introduce things that would damage the credibility of our deterrent. >> what worries you most about the letter that has been september and the convhe zisent conversation it has generatesed? >> anytime we're talking about placing limits on the
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president's authority, we need to be very careful about how we go forward. i think as you mentioned some of the proposal would have the president go to congress to get approval for military force, of course in this case we're talking about nuclear weapons, other proposals would add one or more civilian officials either from the executive or legislative branches or maybe the attorney general to give a go or no go approval before the president could order the use of nuclear weapons. and again, i as a commander, i would be very concerned about guiding th dividing the authority of the commander in chief among two or more officials. i think that introduces the possibility for confusion over who is in charge of releasing nuclear weapons. and it also adds complexity to the decision process. and i think that it could cause a delay or worse paralysis in
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some critical situations. so i would not be comfortable doing some of the things that are proposed in letter. >> general, i think that it is important to think about the issue in the abstract and not to get bogged down in personality. having said that, when i looked at one of the alternatives that was proposed by members of congress, they spoke of the president seeking concurrence from the vice president and the speaker of the house. and of course i immediately think of our former commander in chief going to his vice president and then trying to go to the speaker of the house from a different party with whom they didn't have good relations. that doesn't sound to me like the smoothest possible process which i guess is your point. >> it is miy point. and not only does that add more complexity, because again the rules that are in effect today still apply today. if we get to extreme
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circumstances where vital national interests are at stake, and those are the pre-conditions that the united states has said that we would be having if we were considering the use of nuclear weapon, then we need to make absolutely certain that the command sequence, the command authorities are crystal clear that we have an added complexity that could cause a delay or the kind of complexity here crossing departments not only having the executive branch involved but executive and length legislativh as well, i think that we risk paralysis at the very time when clarity and decisive action would be required. >> i think that i know your answer, general, but i'll ask anyway. does it matter whether the context is preemption or retaliatory? >> i think it matters in terms of timing. i think it matters in terms of
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perhaps decision make tors that come in. but the basic process is the same. just the process can expand to which i more time or it can ret retract. i do think that if we were talking about using nuclear weapons preemptively, which in my view is always possible of course, but i think more likely we would be talking about using in response to nuclear use or the imminent use of nuclear weapons. i think that that certainly any chan commander in chief would face the question about would do involve in that decision process and how extensively that would go. but i can tell you that the decision process is not just the commander in chief consulting with someone carrying the fblg. it is a consultation process in a conference that includes
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senior officials like the secretary of defense, chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, commander of strategic command and other commanders, plus any other civilian advisers the president wants to include. so use imagine if we were ever seriously discussing using nuclear weapons preemptively that that group wouldn't be broader. so i again am not concerned about the process as it exists today. >> final thought. what a unique role you played. i can only imagine when you signed off of that command how relieved you were that you never got the call. >> well, of course. for now over 70 years, our united states policy has been that the objective is to deter the use of nuclear weapons. and that has been successful for all that time. it is a paradox of the nuclear
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age that in order to deter the use of nuclear weapons we have to be prepared to use them. that is the job of strategic demand and that job has been carried out very successfully for all these years. >> general, thank you so much. that was really incitinciteful. >> you're welcome. from the world of social media, i think that this comes from twitter, a president who cannot be trusted with nuclear is that your definition of normalcy? open borders sucking up to -- whoa, where the hell did this come from? we're in the middle of a conversation here about nuclear capability and whether the president ought to single handedly be able to carry it out. put it back on the screen. i guess i have to respond to it now that we've shown it. a president who cannot be trusted with into you can clear, is that your definition of normalcy? you are talking about joe biden? joe biden can't be trusted with 2450u nuclear capabilities?
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i don't think that we have open borders. sucking up to the iranians who we just bombed in syria, are you blanking me? i want to remind everybody else to answer the survey question at smerconish.com. will taxes spoil trump's return. still to come in, a new book, this columbia university psychology professor argues for the legalization of heroin and other openiates and confess thas regularly uses them himself. as i can imagine, i have a lot of questions. hey, mercedes? how can i help you? the 2021 e-class. motortrend's 2021 car of the year. do you have a life insurance policy you no longer need? now you can sell your policy, even a
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opoid overdoses killed nearly 47,000. but professor karl hart is on a mission to change your pre-conceptions about these drugs and how they can be used as who uses them. including himself. he is a husband, a father, a professor off psychology and neuroscience and now author of a book drug use for grownups, chasing liberty in the land of fear. doctor, thank you so much for being here. your very first words, this is not a book about promoting drug use but of course many are not reading it and probably won't hear it that way. what was your objective? >> well, i can understand why many people won't hear it or see it because of all of the sensational media headlines. my objective is to help us do things better in this country when it comes to drugs and drug
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policy. you talked about the opoid crisis for example. in this book, i have clear solutions how to deal with for example opoid overdoses. most of the people who are dying from opoid overdoses do so because they get tainted substances. i offer a solution, a solution that is as simple as having drug checking in this country where people can submit small samples of their drugs for testing. which then they will get a chemical printout of what is contained in the substance. if it contains a contaminants that is dangerous, then they will know not to take it. they do this sort of thing in switzerland and spain, ausz tree austria, in countries around the world because they care about their people. i care about the american people and that is why i wrote this book to help them to understand that there is a better way do this. >> rut outlier or are you the norm?
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military service, prestigious job, stable family, not an addict. you say in the book most heroin users are cocon see enshens and standing. >> think about this, the illicit drug trade business is a multibillion-dollar a year industry. now, the people who support that industry, the people who buy the drugs, clearly have got to have disposable income, they have to have money in order to purchase these drugs. that tells you, number one, that the people who are taking heroin and other illicit drugs are middle class up standing folks. we know this. but the reason why you only see the ones who are having problems, because if you admit to using any of these substances, you will be vilified, you will be persecuted. that is why in this book i admit having used all of these drugs
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so people can come out of the closet and change this perception that is wrong by the way and i've also come out of closet so that i can take the hits, i did tcan take the bulle behalf of the people who can't do it for themselves. >> i want to read from your book. my friend asked if i'd be interested in trying 45ir row win with her. she had never done it but wanted to try it. same hire. on one friday evening we did, unlike in the movie, we didn't use needles. we each snorted a short thin line and immediately we detected the nice effects including dreamy light sedation, free of stress, we talked, misse ed sd ideas. after the effects wore off we called it an evening and he with went home. and critics have said that your approach doesn't take into account the actual risks of
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people who can't handle it. professor says it is you impossible to avoid certain doubts or cautions. the very individuals who feel compelled to use to excess are off only those least psychologically equipped to handle them. i know that some people can be responsible users of everyone the most feared drug, but the pill mills 6 s of appalachia sh how devastating drugs can be. mr. clark doesn't offer a detailed blueprint for keeping drugs away from the people whose lives can be ruined. please respond to that. >> first of all, i'd like to say i like sally. she is a friend in fact. but there is a lot there. i mean the issue sally is raising has more to do with people who are having problems in life. not only with drugs, but a
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number of other issues. people who have been left behind in america. so in order to solve their problems, we need a whole lot more than a drug policy, people need job, people need better education. all of those issues are different from what i am talking about here. one of the things that i want your audience to know is that i've been studying drugs for more than 30 years now. and we give these drugs as part of our studies in places like columbia university and other universities. and so when it comes to drug, believe me i know what i'm talking about. i've published extensively, i've written several books on this topic. and so i think that what salgly is talking about conflates the issue that i am talking about. i'm talking about drug policy, talking about doing things a different way. pre-press
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repressive policies we have to do nothing but force people into the shadows and increase the likely hoods of people getting in trouble with these drugs pipe talking about bringing them out of the shadow, helping people who 23450ed help and enhancing other people's ability to -- >> quick response if you can. say something to the brother, sister, mother, fathers who have lost somebody to opoids, to heroin in particular who are hearing this and finding it jarring if not a horrible thought this idea of legalization. >> well, a few years ago a rapper named ansap yams died frm what was termed an opoid overdose. his mother contacted me and we have since struck up a friendship. one they were we learned about his death, he had multiple drugs on board including an opoid. and one of the things that i like to tell the public is that
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if you are going to use opoids, you shouldn't mix them with another sedative like alcohol or benzodiazepine. if we would send that clear message that would help a number of people and that message is in my book. so i would encourage them to read my book. there are so many solutions in my book. >> dr. clark, i appreciate you being here. it is a very provocative subject. i learned a lot of things. >> thank you for having me. let's check in on your tweets and facebook comments. from the world of twitter i think, what are the odds this guy gets busted in the near future? slim i think. because having read the book, i can tell you my impression is that he takes advantage of the laws of other countries when he is using. my impression is not that he is using in the united states against the laws, then again all i know is what i read. okay. still to come, more of your best and worst tweets and the results
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good morning to you on this saturday, february 27th. i'm christi paul. >> i'm victor blackwell, you are in the "cnn newsroom." >> and we are standing by to hear from president biden this morning. he's set to speak next hour on the house passing his $1.9 trillion rescue bill. >> no republicans voted for the plan. two democrats opposed it. the bill is headed to a 50-50 senate. the package passed by the house includes $1,400 in direct checks to americans making under $75,000 a year, direct aid to businesses, increase in th
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