tv Inside Politics CNN March 5, 2021 9:00am-10:00am PST
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top of the hour. welcome to "inside politics." i'm john king in washington. thank you for sharing a very busy news day with us. the biden coronavirus team getting shots in the arms of americans by 2 million a day, but we're learning about a potential fourth wave of uncontrolled infection. >> years of watching football on tv has shown me that it's best to stop the football after you're safely in the end zone, not after a couple completions.
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wear the mask now so we can get to a place where you don't have to. >> also today, new york governor andrew cuomo is in crisis. charlotte bennett said her former boss was a textbook groomer. and find out why they held data for the total on the nursing control deaths. unemployment, you can see, ticking down and there were 377,000 new hires across america last month. but the economy is still down over 9 million jobs from a year ago. the number one priority, says the biden administration, must be the covid rescue package. >> we are not going to hide in the face of challenge.
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we are going to power through and finish this bill, however long it takes. >> the jobs report making clear unemployment remains a mega crisis. and while overall jobs numbers were up by a healthy number last month, the data does detail job cuts. the marathon senate debate kicking into gear right now starting with, moments ago, a vote on whether to hike the minimum wage to $15 an hour. with us to share their reporting and insights, cnn's abby phillip, christine romans and lauren fox. christine, i want to start with you. the jobs debate on capitol hill, the covid relief is where we were going. the report tells us where we are. 377,000, that's a healthy number, but there are a lot of buts when you read deeply. >> those are rehires. those are people who were brought back because of restaurant and bar reopenings. these are people in low-wage bar
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and restaurant jobs brought back because you're seeing these cautious reopenings across the country. there is a big concern if you have the virus continuing to spread, especially in states where people are not wearing masks, that those jobs could be laid off again. some entertainment jobs, movie theaters, a few jobs there. construction fell, and that's probably because of the cold weather, but john, the context here is important. this looks more like a reverse square root than a deep recovery. we're in a deep hole, down 9.5 million jobs. you can see where we're going here. at this pace it will take a couple years to get back the jobs we lost, never mind the jobs we would have created if there were not the pandemic. this is still a working problem for many people. the elites who make the most money in this country, low-wage workers, regular americans, there's been no recovery for them. >> to that point, lauren fox, christine romans says the pace will take a couple years to get back to where we were last
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february. biden says pass the covid relief plan and we'll get there more quickly. an amendment progressives just tried, even though they understand the math, to include in this package to increase the minimum wage. where are we at this moment? >> what you have seen so far, and we're still waiting on this vote tally, but what you've seen so far is a number of moderate democrats not supporting this amendment that senator sanders put forth. you had democrats, not just kyrsten sinema and joe manchin, who we expected not supporting this bill. you also saw jon tester, chris coons also not supporting this bill, partly because we already saw the parliamentarian say this wouldn't be allowed in this bill because of budget rules, john. but this is something because they've been fighting this for years, the fighting death knell in this round of fights over the
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$15 an hour minimum wage. >> democrats believe they will pass this with only democratic votes. just listen this morning the very different takes on this from the two leaders. chuck schumer, now the majority leader. mitch mcconnell passed some pretty big covid relief plans when he was majority leader. night and day. >> this isn't a relief package. it's a parade of pet projects they're ramming through during a pandemic. >> but now that a democrat is in the white house, now that democrats control the senate, those same ideas which she supported when trump was president and mcconnell was majority leader are a liberal wish list. >> it certainly is interesting and pretty much true, at least so far, that the new republican posture now that trump is gone is if biden is for it, we're against it. >> yeah, and i think that's what you'll see for the next two years as they move into the midterms. the strategy is for the opposing
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party when the democrats are the majority and the republicans want to get back in power. i remember the three-martini lunch put into the covid relief bill. never mind that restaurants across the country were saying, we don't need that, we need more money for ppp loans or for loans that will help small restaurants. so republicans have a little bit of amnesia about this, and it's because, at the end of the day, they have to appeal to their base and their base wants opposition to biden, and it doesn't matter what the details are, because the details are not going to be litigated in the midterm elections, which are all about the core faithful of your party, and that's a trump party. and the trump party is the anti-biden party right now. >> christine, when you look at the economic reports and when you talk to your sources about what's needed, what's most needed now and maybe what's not
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needed, the democrats have already agreed to scale back, for example, what income level you can be at and now get a stimulus payment. it appears they have a deal to scale back the level of unemployment benefits so they'll continue going forward. we do know there is a march 14th deadline for some of these benefits. incentives to provide paid sick and family leave, extended food stamp benefits. republicans are arguing and you can always find something in the big bill. they're arguing this is not necessary, it's a liberal wish list. when you talk to people about the nuts and bolts of the economy, what do they see about the pros in this and what are the cons. >> they say the most important thing is getting money to people so they can feed themselves, and there is a sort of legacy shift in that when we're talking about getting monthly money to children, $200 per child, every month refundable meaning you don't have to pay it back.
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this is for low-income families. and just for people who have been sidelined by the jobs and energy crisis. 14% of people say they can't go to work because their business is closed or there are no hours for them. there is no job for them to go back to. so that bridge between now and when we do have a strong economy, and many think the economy will be rolling by the end of this year or beginning of next year, that bridge is important to keep families whole. >> that's the big picture, isn't it, the arc that biden says the american people want them. 16% in a monmouth university poll said they support a $1.9 trillion covid package. that doesn't mean everyone out there who doesn't support it, 6 out of 10, has read the bill or knows every detail. what they heard is kthe economy is hurting.
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>> you're not going to see a lot of opposition from the public to giving direct aid. a vast majority of republicans know that it's needed even if they do not need it. so that, i think, will be popular. but again, at the same time, the incentives are not aligned here. i don't think republicans are looking at that number and saying, we've got to support that. obviously they're not because none of them voted for it in the house, and i don't know that we can expect any of them to vote for it in the senate, because opposition, unfortunately, the political incentives incentivize opposition to the governing party and that is going to rule the day. and republican-based voters are not necessarily going to punish them even though they might be cashing the very same checks that these lawmakers that they're voting for are casting a ballot against in the senate this weekend. >> that's a critical point and something to watch as we move forward. we will keep the tape of all these arguments and see where the economy goes and see where things go. lauren fox, back to you. on both sides, republicans are
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going to offer a lot of amendments knowing in most cases democrats will vote them down. democrats will offer amendments, including bernie sanders today. i want you to listen to him on the floor. he's the one who insisted, even though he knows the math, i want to get everyone on record whether or not you want to raise the minimum wage to $15 an hour, he says, because of this. >> here is the simple truth. and that is in the richest country in the history of the world, we can no longer tolerate millions of our workers being unable to feed their families because they're working for starvation wages. >> am i right about the conversation up there, that you'll go through this vote-a vote-a-rama, amendment after amendment after amendment, and they think 50 votes is what will send this back to the house. >> reporter: we'll be keeping an eye on senator lisa murkowski from alaska who has not shut the door on potentially supporting
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this bill. she did not vote yes. she voted against beginning debate on this piece of legislation, but she is still reviewing the bill, so we're keeping an eye on her. at the end of the day this is really, at its core, a democratic priority here on capitol hill. they are the ones who have been moving ahead to try to pass it. we should note this has been a difficult lift from majority leader chuck schumer. that's because he can't lose a single democrat. on this amendment on minimum wage, many moderate democrats have told me this is one of the harder amendment votes they're going to have ta o take. they're ready for those poison pill amendments, many of them, but this is difficult because it really does divide democrats sometimes on rural and urban divides, not just between moderates and progressive. this is a hard issue for many democrats back home depending on where you come from, john. a lot of difficulty having this vote today, and you can suspect that some democrats might be
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grumbling for one of their colleagues who forced this vote this afternoon. >> that's what happens in a process like this. some see a vote of principle, some see a vote to change the politics. abby phillip will stay with us for a later conversation. thanks to you both. the cdc director has guidance for people who have been vaccinated soon. the sun is incredible. it makes our lipton tea leaves better. which makes the smooth tea taste better, and time together even better. and drinking lipton can help support a healthy heart.
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just last hour the white house covid response team saying the cdc still working on guidance for people who have been fully vaccinated, promising that advice is coming soon and that they're focused on getting it right. meanwhile, new warnings from team biden today about the growing temptation, you see many governors doing this, to pull back from mask mandates and from people wearing their masks and returning to their pre-pandemic life now. dr. fauci warns us that science and history tells us that could be dangerous.
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>> when you have that much viral activity in a plateau, it almost invariably means that you are at risk for another spike. many countries in europe have seen just that. they had a decrease in cases over a six-week period. they plateaued, and now, over the past week, they saw an increase in cases by 9%, something we desperately want to avoid. >> with us to shares expertise and his insights, a senior scholar at the university hos hospital. you and i have been through, as many americans this year, what dr. fauci has just talked about. the case count starts to come down, hits a plateau, people think we've settled in, and okay, i can go back to normal now. when you see, especially states like texas and mississippi, saying we don't need a mask mandate anymore, is dr. fauci right? we're now at a plateau of close
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to 60,000. we were at 40,000 when we had the horrific winter spike. where are we today? >> i don't think we quite know where we are. we have these variants out there that are the wild card and we've seen cases tick up the last 17-week average, but the 14-week has a decline. is that a reporting delay that caused that decline because of the weather, or is this a real swing? because of that, because we still have 67,000 cases a day, i think it's too early to say throw away your masks. these have been shown throughout the pandemic to keep cases at a manageable level, so as governors are looking at reopening plans, they need to look at masks as critical in allowing that reopening to occur in as safe a way as possible. if you're going to 100% capacity in your stores and other venues, you need people with masks to do that safely. it's very important to have customers and employees wearing masks, and i think that's going to stay for some time until we get more control.
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>> in recent days we've seen the president of the united states use the words neanderthal thinking about texas releasing their mask mandates. the mayor of detroit saying yesterday, i think the pfizer and moderna vaccines are much better than johnson & johnson, therefore, as long as we have pfizer and moderna, i don't need johnson & johnson. the mayor is saying this is a bit of a misunderstanding, and if we have more people in line, we'll use johnson & johnson. is johnson & johnson not as good? and how helpful or hurtful is it if you have mixed messaging about whether you should get the vaccine if it's either one of the three? >> the johnson & johnson vaccine is highly effective, as highly effective as the pfizer and moderna vaccines. what i'm talking about there is serious disease, hospitalization or death. a single dose vaccine does not
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have onerous cold storage requirements. when you look at those efficacy numbers for systematic disease, you can't take those numbers and compare them apples to apples. this wasn't a clinical trial that had three or four arms with with vaccines, that he see were taken in different time periods in different parts of the world. i do think it's harmful, people maligning the johnson & johnson vaccine, and it does send a mixed message, the catholic bishops weighing in, all of that is sort of making the johnson & johnson vaccine seem not optimal, and it is. the johnson & johnson vaccine is a great vaccine and i recommend it to anybody who has a chance to get it. >> i appreciate you saying that. let me ask you lastly, this is an npr ipsos poll. how likely are you to have your child in remote learning indefinitely? three out of ten parents say i'm going to keep my child in remote
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learning indefinitely. that reflects a safety fear about going back to school. one might imagine there are economic impacts as well, parents staying home and the like. does that number surprise you? >> that number does surprise me, but schools kind of being at hybrid and the difficulty switching between the two has influenced parents' choices there. but i do think schools are something that can be open safely. we have data from the cdc showing that even when community spread is high, spread in high schools are very low. there are best practices we can use. we know to use masks and social distancing. this is something that needs to be the default. schools should be the first thing to open, the last thing to close. we have people going to sporting events, mass gatherings, but we don't have schools open, and this is harming children. we need to hold the president to that 100-day promise he said
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about schools opening for in-person learning. this is something i think is very critical. >> dr. adalja, grateful as always. thank you very much. >> thank you. up next, charlotte bennett in her own words and they are powerful. she calls new york governor andrew cuomo a textbook abuser, and she was horrified, terrified, to be in his office. but i've seen centuries of this. with one companion that hedges the risks you choose and those that choose you. the physical seam of a digital world, traded with a touch. my strongest and closest asset. the gold standard, so to speak ;) people call my future uncertain. but there's one thing i am sure of... - [narrator] grubhub perks give you deals on all the food that makes you boogie. (upbeat music) get the food you love with perks from- - [crowd] grubhub.
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andrew cuomo senior aides rewrote a department memo to hide data about nursing home deaths in the early months of the coronavirus pandemic. the intervention came just as governor cuomo started writing something else, his book bragging about his crisis management. his other crisis is about how the governor runs his office. three women accused him of inappropriate treatment. two worked in his office, and they say he was inappropriate. charlotte bennett called him a textbook abuser. >> he is a textbook abuser. he lets his temper and his anger rule the office, but he was very sweet to me for a year in the hopes that maybe one day when he came on to me, i would think we
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were friends or that it was appropriate or that it was okay. >> bennett worked as an aide and health policy adviser. she says she believes governor cuomo groomed her and then on june 20, 2020 lark, last year, crossed the line. >> he's trying to sleep with me. the governor is trying to sleep with me. and i am deeply uncomfortable, and i have to get out of this room as soon as possible. >> and to be clear, what made you think that he was trying to sleep with you? >> without explicitly saying it, he implied to me that i was old enough for him and he was lonely. >> cnn's abby phillip is here with me now. it is compelling when you hear it and it is incredibly disturbing. >> yep. the whole context of the situation, i think you laid it
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out, it's both things happening at the same time. someone who feels, apparently, with everything that's going on, the fame, the attention, also behaving in this really emboldened way in his office that made people like charlotte bennett apparently feel as if he was -- it was a predatory situation that she couldn't speak up for herself. he was not only her boss, but he was her boss in the spotlight. i think it's all of these different themes that we've been talking about with the #metoo movement colliding all in one story, one really incredibly disturbing story. >> if you listen to more of it, the governor has not been specific in addressing what these women have laid out in detail. clear recollection, dates, time frames, everything like that. he has said he apologizes if he was misunderstood. he said he was trying to be a mentor in ms. bennett's case, and he said that some conduct he
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believes they took offense at in his view, he says they were just trying to be playful. listen. >> he asked me a few questions about how to use his iphone and then sent me back to wait, and he calls me in and he asks if i found him a girlfriend yet. i said, not yet, i was working on it. >> governor cuomo said in a statement on sunday that he was just being playful. was it playful? >> no. >> he says he was joking. >> i wasn't laughing. and he wasn't laughing. >> you mentioned the context in your first comments there. the governor is not supposed to be asking a staff member to find him a girlfriend and not supposed to be playful. >> the thing about all of this is he knows this. you know, this is someone who was a political figure during the #metoo movement who spoke about sexual harrassment publicly, who talked about it as
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if he understood the gravity of the situation but also the nuances of it, the power dynamic and why questions like that in the context of an environment between a boss and the person who works for them does not work. it's not a joke when it's in a power dynamic like that. so what's disturbing about all of this is the idea that all of this is happening with someone who actually knows that this has crossed the line and yet exhibited this behavior, anyway. that is the part of this that is in some ways a little different from some of the other cases of public figures who maybe they're being confronted with behavior of ten years ago, 15 years ago, maybe they could make an argument times were different. times were not different when this was going on. >> six months ago, seven months ago. abby, thank you for the reporting. the governor is entitled to the fact finding, but that's a pretty big presentation.
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senior aides altered data to downplay covid deaths inside nursing homes. athena jones is here with more on that. athena? >> reporter: the "new york times" spoke with six people with direct knowledge of this. this all started at the state department of health that focused on deaths from covid-19 in long-term care facilities. the original version of that report, which was never made public, it listed the number of nursing home deaths at nearly 10,000. but the "times" and the ""wall street journal" of andrew cuomo rewrote that report, cutting the number in half. that doesn't count the long-term care residents whose conditions worsened and they ended up being transferred to hospitals and died there. this dates back to last march when the governor put out an
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order that turned away anybody being treated for covid at a hospital. that policy led to a surge of infections at those long-term care facilities. cuomo said he was following federal guidelines, and these facilities, if they weren't equipped to handle these patients, should not have accepted them back. in response to these reports, the special counsel for governor cuomo said, the out of facility data was omitted after the dhs, department of health, could not confirm it had been adequately verified. this does not change the conclusion of the report which was and is the march 25 order was not a driver of nursing home infections or fatalities. it goes on to say, the covid tack force officials did not request that the report conclude the march 25 order played no role. the final report used only data for in-facility deaths which was
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disclosed in the report. doh was comfortable in the final report and believes fully in its conclusion that the primary driver that introduced covid into the nursing home was spread by the staff. we know from the internal report in january, she found the covid administration severely miscounted deaths in these facilities. that caused cuomo just a few weeks ago to release the full picture of that data. at the time he said it had been held back because of concerns of a preliminary investigation by the trump administration. cuomo said he regrets the way this was handled and should have done a better job handling the information, and we know the fbi and the internal office are looking into these deaths. john? >> athena jones, grateful for the reporting, thank you so much. an upset on the senate floor
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more details now and a vote we talked to you about at the top of the hour, a vote to raise the minimum wage to $15 an hour. we now have a better picture of who voted no. lauren? >> we now have eight democrats who voted in the caucus. senator king voted no. he is with missouri. you had jon tester, chris coons
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with the state of delaware, ma ma maggie hassan. this amendment was a little in the weeds but it's an important distinction here because the parliamentarian has already ruled, john, that this could not be included in the bill. so in order to add it, essentially democrats were making a decision about whether or not they wanted to try and force this issue further. many democrats argued this was not something they wanted to do. there are also just generally some urban and rural divides over whether there is interest to raising the minimum wage to $15 an hour. there is some interest like with senator joe manchin to raise the minimum wage, but it's not going to happen with this covid relief bill. the final death knell wasn't going to be in this bill.
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it just wouldn't make it in this covid relief package. john? >> a long process. lauren fox, thank you on the hill. when we come back, the economy is finally gaining steam but the covid damage remains deep. up next, the impact of the covid relief bill on women. really? i'll check that out. oh yeah. i think i might get a quote. not again! aah, come on rice. do your thing. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ i give to shriners hospitals for children because i want to be a part of something amazing. - i know my gift to shriners hospitals for children makes a difference in the lives of children. - our support gives kids a bright future. - i give because when i see a child smile, i smile.
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today numbers that tell us the economy is gaining steam but still has a long way to go on the path to full covid recovery. the economy added 377,000 jobs in february, beating expectations. the unemployment rate dropped a tick, from 6.6% to 6.2%. but they are still 9 million jobs from where they were a year ago. my next guest notes this one. there is a gap between hispanic and black women. hitting women of color hardest. the president and ceo for women's policy research, thank you so much for being with us today. i tried reading through the report in the context of what you have looked at in these economics disparities. is it fair to say better but still not great? >> it's a little bit better but not great.
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we still have a long way to go. since the start of the pandemic, women have lost more than 5 million jobs and this month we gained about 245,000 jobs. we have a long way to go to recover, and as you mentioned, black and latina women are struggling with big unemployment losses that have not budged. >> i want to read this separate report from the census bureau. last spring, between march and april, some 3.5 million mothers living with school-age children left active work, either shifting their leave or unpaid leave. almost one in two mothers of school-age children were not actively working last april. that is the thump that covid brought to women in the work force because they had to get home, help with their children, deal with the school issues and the pandemic. here's where we are now if you look at the unemployment stats. the unemployment rate among women spiked.
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female unemployment for women is 6.9 in april, this report it was at 5.9%, so it is improving. what are the critical points? >> the critical points are the sectors where we've seen the most enormous job loss. the service sector, hospitality, health care services. when we think about recovery, we have to understand that many of those jobs are gone forever, there will not be a 1 for 1 recovery, so job efforts have to focus on those sectors and also training opportunities for women. >> the stats tell us one thing, the humanity of it tells us another. this is brooke gastaway, a woman who left the work force because of covid now trying to get back in the work force.
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listen to how she describes the challenge. >> sometimes i am scared to say a mom when i'm applying, especially with so much on the news about families having to balance work life and their children, and there's something about telling an employer that i'm going to be one of those people that's going to have to balance those two things. i found myself at this moment applying for a lot of roles that are more junior than i would typically apply for simply because it feels safe, that i know i'm overqualified, so it almost feels safer to secure that interview. >> how widespread is that? it's stunning to hear somebody scared to say i'm a mom. scared to say what makes her awesome. a great mom who also wants to work, who wants to juggle and be the miracle worker of the american economy and the american family afraid to say so. >> this is the reality for many working moms across the country, particularly those who have exited the work force due to caretaking demands and the
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school's closures. and so you're right. women are afraid to say they are moms because they are afraid they won't be hired, and in this competitive market where jobs are scarce, they make a calculated decision and the decision may be to not disclose. look, we need to really figure out what we need to do to support moms. i think the recovery package is a step in the right direction, especially for women who are not able to re-enter the work force because of caretaking responsibilities. but there is still so much more that we have to do to make sure that women are able to not only re-enter the work force but sustain employment. >> grateful for your help and insights. appreciate it. up next, biden and the border reality check. the white house says it is reversing the tragedies of trump. republicans see a crisis.
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new biden border crisis. here's the big question. is there a crisis at the southern border, and the question within the question, if you will, are more migrants crossing the border than before? >> reporter: so the short answer, john, yes, we are seeing an increase of migrants at the u.s.-mexico border, and trends indicate that number is probably going to grow in the coming weeks. now, as you mentioned, the biden administration is maintaining that this is a challenge, but clearly some level of concern here with president biden asking senior members of his team to go to the border to assess what is happening on the ground. >> and we went through this in the trump administration, now we're going to go through it in the biden administration in terms of when you look at the apprehensions, 75,198 most recently. if you go back to january a year ago, 29,000, then down to 21,000. put that in context for us. why the jump? >> reporter: remember, when looking at this data, we're living through a pandemic.
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so the inflection last year looked different. the president took a move of invoking a public health law. what that did, border agents were able to turn away migrants encountered at the border. that included families, children and single adults. if they were encountered by border control, they could return back to mexico or their country of origin. now, this is important when looking at the number in january. you have over 75,000 encounters. but critically, because of that policy, that doesn't necessarily mean 75,000 individuals, rather, that can take into account someone who crossed the border more than once, because, again, because of that trump era policy, there was tho pno penalr doing that. we are seeing people cross more than once at a recidivism rate of about 38%, which is higher than other years. >> so now we move on to another question within it. who is crossing? who is crossing and why does it matter? i want to bring up this pie
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chart to show. these are the 70,198 crossings in january. why does this pie chart matter? >> that still makes up the majority of arrests. those are people more likely to cross the border more than once. so we don't know if those are individuals or if it's someone crossing several times. but the number we're looking at is the unaccompanied children and families. when talking to officials, that is their biggest concern is how that number grows. so, for example, we reviewed documents this week that showed that there is an average, a 21-day average, of border patrol arresting more than 340 migrant children a day. that's concerning. that's levels not seen since 2019. it's that slice of the unaccompanied children we're keeping an eye on. >> that's one of the reasons the biden team, senior officials going to the border trying to get a firsthand look asking questions, not only federal officials but state officials as
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well trying to sort it out. that's the question, where are the children? 7,700 unaccompanied children in custody at the moment. why is that number significant? >> reporter: there is a number of reasons why children may cross the border. i think when we're looking at previous months, the critical change here is that the trump administration took a policy that they would return children encountered at the border, they would push them back to mexico or, again, their country of origin. the biden administration has said they will not do that. they will take children into custody, they will not expel them. that means we'll see more children come into custody, and that number you referenced, the 7,700 of children in hhs custody, that is where they go, to shelters, and case managers will work to relocate them with families in the united states. 7,700, that's not the most we've ever seen, but it's certainly concerning when we're working under capacity because of covid
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precautions. >> priscilla, grateful for your insight and reporting. thank you for your time today. thanks for joining us on "inside politics"." i hope to see you on monday. brianna keilar picks up our coverage right now. have a good afternoon. hello, i'm brianna keilar and i want to welcome our viewers in the united states and around the world. the senate has ground to a snail's pace even as americans are struggling to survive the pandemic. republicans using everything in their legislative toolbox to slow the vote on the coronavirus relief package. senate floor staff spent ten hours and 45 minutes reading out loud the entire 628-page bill thanks to jsenator ron johnson
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