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he knew and when. >> very quickly, we only have a few seconds. >> i was asked if he took the same sexual harassment training that other people had, he said yes, and that goes towards his state of mind. >> thank you, preet, and to those of you watching. erin burnett "outfront" starts right now. a furious effort to lock down support for biden's covid bill. what is the holdup? and the trump appointee charged in the riot. and a cnn analysis reveals the u.s. could reach herd immunity by late summer? let's go "outfront." we have breaking news.
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democrats desperately scrambling to make a deal tonight, because president biden's $1.9 trillion covid relief bill is at this moment at a standandstill. right now, it's all about democratic senator joe manchin. democratic leaders are racing to keep manchin from joining the other side of the aisle about extending unemployment benefits. the fear tonight is that the moderate west virginia senator will side with republicans. that could put biden's first major piece of legislation in jeopardy. and adding to the nail-biter, republicans are now down one senator. senator dan sullivan is flying home to alaska tonight after his
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father-in-law passed away. there is so much going on. let's go to manu raja. is there any sign where this is headed tonight? >> reporter: things are stuck right now. in fact, that's the words of one democratic senator involved in the negotiations, telling a republican senator, john cornyn, who just told me moments ago he's been told they're stuck. and behind the scenes there is a furious effort to win over joe manchin, to get him behind this proposal that was reached as a last-minute proposal between the white house and democratic leaders to extend jobless benefits at $300 a week through september. that also would include a tax deductible provision to ensure that the first $10,200 of someone's jobless benefits can't be taxed. that piece has prompted concerns from joe manchin, who never signed off on that. even as the white house came out and said it publicly supported
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that plan. and the concern among democrats is that joe manchin may vote instead for a republican alternative, that may just extend those benefits through july. and that is enough to amend the bill, and behind the scenes, republicans have been impressing upon their members to get behind the alternative plan, believing it could undercout the democratc coal coalition. any change as significant as this could upset that balance. so that is why joe biden has been on the phone, i'm told, with joe manchin, trying to get him onboard. but at the moment, that has not worked, as democrats fear they could lose on this key vote, and it could slow things down dramatically, given that they'll have to pass this on their own.
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as republicans overall oppose this plan. so there is a lot of concern, and negotiations behind the scenes. today was supposed to be the day of a flurry of amendments, most if not all would fail, but they have not voted for hours. the senate opened up a vote at 11:00 a.m. eastern time, now it's 7:00 p.m. in the east. that vote is still open. because they're trying to figure out how to deal with joe manchin, as democrats are concerned about what is next. >> in summary, a total mess. manu, thank you. abby, a gop amendment on minimum wage is definitely not the thought of bipartisanship added to the bill that democrats were thinking about. is this thing falling apart
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before our eyes, and not because of republicans? >> it may very well be. what is happening now is fascinating. the question is, what does joe manchin want, exactly? that's what the white house and democrats on the hill are try desperately to figure out. manchin is unlikely to want to be the person who kills this effort altogether. he doesn't like the size of the bill, he doesn't like -- he believes it's not targeted enough. but the idea that the death of $1.9 trillion in covid related aid on his shoulders seems to be a bridge too far. but what does he want? if they can get that without losing the progressives, they may get that and be in business. but manchin, he's trying to
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signal to them that they need to come to the table with something that is fairly significant for him. >> i'm going to venture to guess that one phone call to joe manchin, and asking the question, what do you want, that should have been able to be answered in 30 minutes, not 8 hours. so there really is something going on. what does this show about the power that senator joe manchin holds right now? and what a mess, not knowing that he has signed on before going on with it? >> this is a big chunk of the biden presidency hanging by the thread, and it's in the hands of one senator. he needs two things, manchin on the one hand does want to flex some muscle, he wants to show that he's a different kind of democrat. he has a very different electorate to answer to, back in west virginia. but i hope he also is trying to
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get something deliverable for his own constituents so we can move forward. and joe biden is such a good deal maker and relationship manager, to find himself in this position, something went wrong, and very badly. but this is something you should be able to work out. there should be a deal here. certainly manchin has made his point, he can't be taken for granted. he thinks about these things differently than other democrats. the people at home know that. now they need to get something done, so he's not seen as the skunk at the garden party who ruined this. >> joe biden is known for being the guy they bring in at the end to strike a deal. i remember on capitol hill, when
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you saw then vice president joe biden walking in the door, that's when the deal was struck. >> yeah, every time. >> so it's amazing to see this playing out right now. there's already, as we are at a standstill, video from this vote that is getting quite a lot of attention, and another senator, sinema of arizona, when she voted no on the $15 minimum wage. watch this. >> ms. sinema? ms. sinema, no. >> people calling this a marie antoinette moment. but how smart is it for a democratic senator, voting against a minimum wage increase, and in this way? >> first of all, i'm not sure it's entirely fair to assume she
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was being flippant for doing that. she's a colorful personality. but beyond that, i also think that, you know, look. the moderate democrats are making a cal duelation that they can engage on this issue down the road, separately, and perhaps for a lower level. less than $15. and so they don't want to deal with this in the covid bill. and, you know, i kind of take them at their word on that. i think it's not just a democratic, a moderate democratic position. there are a lot of moderate republicans who are willing to do that. so that is certainly the case. i get that progressives, however, feel like this is a train that is moving out of the administration. it should be in it right now. that's why you're going to see a lot of anger directed at sinema and manchin, and the others, the six others, the democrats who voted against this amendment today. because from a principle perspective, this is the train that is leaving the station.
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and the progressives think the minimum wage should be on it. >> that's an excellent point. it's not just these two senators we're talking about. what is it, eight altogether that voted against the minimum wage increase. bernie sanders is the one who brought it forward. i'm going to put it this way, bernie sanders is the one who forced this vote. what is more of a problem, sanders forcing this vote to get his democratic friends on the record, knowing it would turn out this way. or seven democrats and an independent voting against it? >> you got to give bernie sanders a lot of credit. he has a progressive base, and they're a big part of this party. you have the young turks and a bunch of others saying, if we're not going to fight now, this is
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a must-pass wibill. this is the time to fight for our values. if you're going to preemptively surrender, why did we kill ourselves to get the majority and put the gavel into the hands of the democrats? bernie sanders, you know who he is. you know what he stands for. when he was given that gavel, you should expect him to use it for progressive causes, and he did. but this is suicide for the democratic party to try to go into a midterm election in about 20 minutes without things people voted for. a big covid relief bill, and a minimum wage increase. we have a big party, from bernie to manchin. but they need to get this done.
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new tonight, the first member of the trump administration to be charged in connection with the deadly insurrection. federico klein also worked for the trump campaign in 2016, and held a top secret security clearance at the time of the riot. according to the fbi, klein is accused of using a police riot shield to pry open a door. he was working for the federal government at the time he attacked the federal government according to authorities. he was wearing a maga hat during the riot, and when it fell off, he started searching for it on the ground, only to find another
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hat that turned out not to be his own. in court today, he complained to the judge about the conditions of the jail where he is being held. let me read this. he says, i wonder if there's a place i can stay in detention where there are not cockroaches crawling all over me. haven't really slept at all, your honor. a reminder, five people died because of the insurrection. and this guy is complaining about cockroaches. evan perez is "outfront" with me now. what else do we know about klein? >> reporter: apparently he stood out among his colleagues at the state department for his fervor for the trump maga movement. at least one of these people turned him in to the fbi, as to who he was. and after he allegedly
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participated in the riot, he went back to work. he didn't resign until january 21st. and he participated in the riot, according to prosecutors, he got hold of a police shield that he used to hold open the door to help let the mob in. and he was assaulting these officers, he's charged with six counts. and one of the things that is interesting is that he worked not only in the campaign, he worked in the transition. and then worked in the freedom of investigation act section of the state department. and somebody who worked with him called the fbi and told them who he was after the fbi circulated some of the pictures that you're seeing. >> evan, thank you. "outfront" now, democratic
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congressman dan keldie. what is your reaction to this? >> well, it's sad. i wish i could be more surprised by it. but, you know, donald trump brought a lot of people into government that felt about the united states the way he does. he doesn't believe in the principles of democracy. apparently this person went along with that. it's sad and kind of depressing that there may still be people that donald trump brought into government that still work there, and share these views. >> and the report that federal investigators are looking at communications between people in the pro-trump mob and members of congress. this nearly 2,000-page report on the social media posts by house republicans who had voted to
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overturn the election. paul gosar tweeted this, in just the days before the riot. he tweeted, patriots, the time is now. hold the line. join me in d.c. january 6th. #fight for trump. sedition for stealing votes is appropriate. we don't know what will come from this look by federal investigators, that's for sure. but do you think it's likely they will find more connections between lawmakers and rioters? >> i think it's very likely. there are some members of congress, some more obvious like paul gosar and a few others, who share these really bizarre views. but there is a certain amount of responsibility that goes with the members of congress who went along with the ride because it was good for their politics. they try to separate themselves
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from louie gohmert, paul gosar, marjorie taylor greene, and lauren boeberts, but they still validated that ridiculous claim of a stolen election. so i think it's important that they face liability, legal responsibility for what they did. but let's not forget, those wringing their hands, trying to separate themselves from the weird and bizarre members of congress, they have responsibility as well. they confirmed that lie in much softer terms. >> i have to say, you've spoken to me very candidly about how you're going to carry the trauma of january 6th with you for the rest of your life. and folks will remember, video that you recorded during the riot was used as evidence. i want to show folks. >> take your pins off.
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>> yeah. what the [ bleep ]. >> take your pins off. >> pins off. >> it hits me every time. because you can hear it in your voice. and you have said that you have struggle since then, interacting with the members who voted to overturn the election results even after all that you lived through. if there is communication between any members and anyone who stormed that building, how do you work with them? >> it's hard. it's really difficult. we have to work in the same place, we have to address many of the same issues. in some ways, i'll have to work side by side with them. but i think of those members differently than i do those republicans who had the courage and basically the steel in their spine, knowing that they would face repercussions from their constituents who are as deranged as some of these members are.
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i treat them differently. and i hope that the history of this moment will not be re-written to try to sanitize what was really an ugly role that they played in this whole insurrection. >> one person who is already trying to sanitize and re-write history, some of the people who are already in jail. here's what the so-called "q" shaman, said. >> my actions were not an attack on this country. i sang a song, that's a part of shamanism. it's about creating positive vibrations in a sacred chamber. i stopped somebody from stealing muffins out of the break room. >> after all of this, what is your reaction to hearing that? >> i mean, it's always somebody else's fault in the minds of these folks. this is a classic trumpism. it's always somebody else's
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fault. try to paint themselves as some sort of hero or victim, when that same person broke windows to get into the capitol with a mob that wanted to hang mike pence, and kill as many of us as they could get their hands on. there's no erasing that. >> congressman, thank you. "outfront" next, breaking news. a new cnn analysis predicts that the u.s. could reach herd immunity by late summer. also, new york's attorney general making a major move when it comes to her investigation into governor andrew cuomo. because a good night's rest is where muscles recover, and our minds are restored. the new sleep number 360 smart bed is temperature balancing. and it helps keep you asleep by sensing your movement and automatically adjusts to keep you both effortlessly comfortable. perfect for those relaxing weekends.
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country. nick watt is "outfront." >> reporter: the city of detroit just declined a shipment of johnson & johnson single shot vaccine. more than 6,000 doses. the mayor claims he has enough of the other vaccines to meet demand. >> moderna and pfizer are the best. and i'm going to do everything i can to make sure that residents of the city of detroit get the best. >> he said in fact that was not what he said. >> reporter: well, it is what he said. maybe he misspoke, either way, it's wrong. all three vaccines are -- >> extraordinarily effective in preventing severe disease. we don't compare one to the other. the only way that you can effectively do that is by having head-to-head comparisons in a clinical trial. which was not done. >> 1, 2, 3. >> reporter: more than 10% of
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american adults are now fully vaccinated. but still no cdc guidance on how they should behave. >> these are complex issues, and the science is rapidly evolving. we're making sure and taking the time to get this right. and we will be releasing this guidance soon. >> reporter: meantime, vaccine optimism is fueling the rollback of restrictions. today, michigan upped indoor dining capacity. no more mask mandate in mississippi. today, the governor of texas doubling down on his controversial decision to end the mask mandate and open businesses. >> we are in a situation where it is safe to open up 100%. and every texan here, and every texan across the state, they have learned for the past year the safe strategies to use. >> reporter: also today, more data published showing mask mandates do reduce covid-19 case counts and deaths.
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and when restaurants reopen in person, cases and deaths do go up. >> wear a mask now so we can get to a place where you don't have to. >> reporter: case counts were heading there, but plateaued about ten days ago. could be fatigue, complacency, and those more contagious variants kicking in. so lots of movement today on states reopening. here in california, they just announced amusement parks, di disneyland, can reopen april 1st. south carolina said you no longer need to wear a mask in government building and r resta restaurants. and arizona and west virginia are opening bars, restaurants, g gyms, 100%, but keeping the mask restrictions. there is some thought that the
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best way to get back to any kind of normalcy is to keep the masks. kate? >> thank you. and now, dr. jonathan reiner joins us. herd immunity, by late july. this according to a new cnn analysis. how significant is this, if we could really hit that this summer. what does this mean, that we'll be able to do? >> this is what we -- this is what we've been working for, is to vaccinate enough people that the virus essentially is suppressed and doesn't transmit efficiently in the community. right now, we're giving about 2 million doses of vaccine per day. it's an enormous achievement. and i think we need to up our game and go to 3 million. we've done a good job at vaccinating the elderly and those in nursing homes. we're working our way through risk groups. but it's time to start consideration of vaccinating the
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people who are spreading the virus. those are people between the ages to 20 and 49. right now, they're last in line to get the vaccine. but those are the people that are spreading about two-thirds of the infections in the country. we have almost 30 million doses of vaccine on the shelf. as we start to vaccinate more people, we need to open this up to the younger folks in this country who are spreading the virus. as we move towards herd immunity, we'll be able to do things we haven't been able to do for a year. we'll be able to sit in restaurants, we'll be able to congregate in ballparks, go to concerts again. i think we'll have masks with us for an extended period of time. but this will open us up to a much more normal life. and i think when the holidays and the fall come about, we'll be meeting with family again. the skies are really blue ahead, but we have a lot to do. and we need to vaccinate as many people as we can, as quickly as we can. >> and you have the mayor of detroit, he rejected 6,200 doses
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of vaccine because of the misinformed view on the j&j vaccine. what are people missing about this? even leaders of big cities who should know better, they're having a hard time. >> that was a sadly ignorant comment by the detroit mayor. look, the only number that people need to know about the j&j vaccine is 100. it's 100% effective at preventing hospitalization and death. that's all we want from a vaccine, it's a fabulous vaccine. detroit has one of the largest african-american populations in the united states. and sadly, this population of americans has the most vaccine hesitancy. 31% of african-americans say they won't get the vaccine. another 20% say they're unsure. so over 50% of the african-american population is either unsure or is not going to
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get the shot. i talk to my patients every week about this. every patient, i ask, tell me your concerns. so to have the mayor throw shade on the vaccine is really very unproductive at best. it's a great vaccine. it's a one-shot vaccine. and in fact, it's the only vaccine that in clinical trials has been studied against the variants and is very effective. >> vaccine hesitancy is already a problem. dealing with even more misinformation from the people you trust makes it even tougher. doctor, thank you. "outfront" next, hearing from one of governor andrew cuomo's accusers. >> it felt like to me, i had a new job, we didn't have to investigate this. plus, former president trump
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breaking news, a spokesperson for the new york attorney general confirming it has asked the governor's office
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to preserve evidence related to the allegations against andrew cuomo. jason carroll is "outfront" with this. what is bennett saying? >> reporter: she talked about the prospects of an investigation, and she says it's time for the governor to tell the truth. >> he is a textbook abuser. >> reporter: tonight, charlotte bennett providing more details surrounding allegations new york's governor andrew cuomo sexually harassed her. >> it felt like if i got to new job, we didn't have to investigate this. and i really did not want it to be investigated. i was terrified. >> reporter: she is the former executive assistant of the governor. >> he wanted a girlfriend. when he said he was lonely, i mentioned that his daughters had
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been around. and he also rejected that. and said, yeah. i love my daughters. but that's -- i want a girlfriend. >> reporter: bennett says she felt the governor was trying to groom her through his line of questioning. and said she was called back the next day. >> i was terrified. i was shaking. i thought any moment, something can happen. and i have no power here. >> reporter: days after the alleged incident, she says she reported to the governor's chief of staff, and was moved to a different position, not working directly with cuomo. she described a follow-up meeting with the governor's chief of staff and general counsel. >> what do you think should happen to andrew cuomo? >> i think he should start telling the truth. i'm really confident in this investigation. but if this investigation finds that he has conducted himself this way, which he absolutely has, because i have
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contemporaneous evidence, he should step down. >> reporter: a spokesperson for the governor referred cnn to his press conference. >> i'm sorry. i'm sorry for whatever pain i caused anyone. i never intended it. and i will be the better for this experience. >> reporter: all this, as "the wall street journal" reporting that deaths in nursing homes were less than 10,000, while the count was put at half that number.
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special counsel to governor cuomo saying the administration consistently followed federal guidelines, saying the out of facility data was omitted after d.o.h. could not confirm it had been adequately verified. this did not change the conclusion of the report. and when it comes to those additional comments from charlotte bennett, cnn did reach out to the governor's office. the governor's special counsel gave us a statement which reads in part, we continue to believe the matter was handled appropriately, and we look forward to cooperating fully with the attorney general's review. kate? >> jason, thank you. "outfront" for us next, joe biden caught between republicans and progressive democrats over what to do with the surge of migrants at the southern border. plus, getting vaccines to those who are hardest to reach.
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as his administration looks to open more tent facilities amid a surge of migrants at the southern border. telling facilities to reopen to pre-pandemic levels for children. so donald trump is saying this, our border is totally out of control. a mass incursion into the country is happening on an hourly basis, getting worse by the minute. the biden administration must act immediately. trump is stretching the truth, as usual. but the truth is, there is an influx of migrants coming across the border. phil mattingly is live with me now. the white house is responding to trump, but not denying that its policies are a reason for this surge. >> reporter: it's certainly a piece. and probably a significant piece of a confluence of factors that have led to an influx of unaccompanied minors. the biden administration has made clear, they're taking a
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very different stance. jen psaki said they're taking a difference stance. but they're not turning away unaccompanied minors. that has led in part to the surge at the border. this is how jen psaki framed it. >> we believe that children who are under the age of 18 should be treated with humanity, and provided safety. while we consider what the process is moving forward. we certainly have a different approach. we understand the outcome and the impact of that. >> reporter: and that has led, kate, as you noted, to an influx of migmigrants, and the need to open facilities that address that. and the administration is trying to undo everything that president trump put in place, not just through laws and executive orders, but through
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regulations across the immigration system. and they're trying to not to call it a crisis. but talking to officials, they recognize that not only is it getting bad now, they expect it to get worse. >> and biden is also getting pressure from progressive democrats who say he needs when you talk to officials, when you talk to white house officials, they acre knowledge this is a problem and they need time to solve the problem. go going back to the fact they trying to redo or recraft u.s. immigration policy. the president is sending his team to the border and are expected to come and report back and trying through manpower and technology to address the influx of migrant children, the ability to try to address those issues, try and basically turn them
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[ overlapping speakers ] t of a shorter period of time.of . the reality is they need time and don't have time given how fast this is moving. they have broad goals with immigration not just through executive orders but legislation and as long as they can't address this or fix what is happening now at the border when you talk to administration officials, they acreknowledge i will be difficult not just you're hearing from president trump ex and republicans but whs being set up to address the influx. all of these things being put together particularly at this early stage, particularly as administration is trying to get its feet to them when it comes to the policy and issues, just creates major complications for a new administration, kate. >> the reality comes knocking, thinks, phil. >> up next, see the great lengths some doctors are going to vaccinate some of the hardest
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the u.s. issuing more coronavirus shots than anyone in the world but some of the most vulnerable are struggling to get access. 111 american counties don't even have a pharmacy that can give the shots. adrian is "outfront" with an idea that could change that. >> reporter: jackie just got vaccinated in her own home. now it's her mother's turn. >> here we go. >> reporter: jackie and her mom, 90-year-old hattie are getting the vaccine thanks to rush university medical center. they have limited chtransportatn and hattie can only get out of the house if somebody carries her.
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>> i hope everyone that take it does well. >> tell her she's going to feel a little pinch. >> reporter: the vaccination team is at the flores home and there are 120 people in the program targeting those hardest hit by covid, 71 people received the vaccine. >> this is like a blessing to have somebody come to the house, especially when you have a l latina 92-year-old beautiful mother with dementia and cannot do hardly nothing for herself. >> reporter: there is a problem. not everyone who needs the shot gets it, and it falls along racial lines. the kaiser family pofoundation tracks vaccination rates in 27 states by race and ethnicity. according to their data, the overall vaccination rate among white people is about three times higher than the rate for latinos and twice as high as the rate for blacks. the challenge in chicago and cities all over the country is many of the most vulnerable residents are going
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unvaccinated. >> there is racism that under lies the struck tutures in our . >> reporter: in this case, many on chicago's west side live in a pharmacy desert and can't get themselves to a vaccine. the effect is clear in the numbers. as of mid february in illinois, latinos make up 26% of covid cases but only 9% of vaccinations and maryland blacks make up 33% of cases but only 16% of vaccinations. and in california, the numbers are staggering. latinos account for 55% of covid cases, but only 18% of vaccinations. it's a problem president biden says he's trying to fix. >> the fact is if you're 70 years old, you don't have a vehicle and you live in a tough neighborhood, meaning you're -- it's a high concentration of covid, you are not likely to be able to walk five miles to go get a vaccine.
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>> reporter: the president's covid package includes funnding for mobile vaccinations like texas, california and massachusetts. texas is starting a door to door program. jackie and her mom say this program may have saved them, not only from the virus but an unequal system that nearly left them behind. >> there is nobody above no one. every nationality, every race is the same way. we bleed the same. we die the same. >> and adrian is joining us now. adrian, what challenges are they facing taking the vaccine to people's homes? >> reporter: well, one of the challenges, kate, taking the vaccine from the clinic here at rush to people's homes is labor intensive. for example, when we traveled with the team for rush, there was a slight moment of panic. someone who was scheduled to receive the vaccine had a scheduling conflict so the team had to make a decision. give the vaccine to someone on
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its backup list or toss the extra dose. thankfully, that day, they found someone. kate? >> adrian, great report, thank you very much. appreciate it. thank you for joining us. i'm kate bolduan, "ac 360" starts right now. john berman in for anderson. we begin with breaking news. what could be an end to the senate impasse over the president's covid relief bill. the size and duration of jobless benefits and the objections of one senate democrat joe mansion. for nine hours today, democrats did not have enough democratic votes to pass their bill. that seems to be over, we think. in a moment, we'll speak with one of the sen tomators fresh f the floor but let's go to ryan nobles. a deal, what are you learning? >> reporter: that's right, john. it seems there is a breakthrough here with senator joe mansion of west virginia, and the senate