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>> announcer: this is cnn breaking news. hello and welcome to our viewers joining us here in the united states and all around the world. i'm rosemary church. we are following breaking news out of boulder, colorado. we saw the face of evil. that was the response from colorado's governor after a shooting spree in a boulder supermarket left ten people dead. it is the second mass shooting in the united states within a week. details are still emerging, but here's what we know at this hour. police say a gunman entered a
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king soopers store in boulder on monday afternoon and began shooting. among the dead, 51-year-old boulder police officer eric talley. he had been with the department since 2010. police are working to identify the other victims. a warning that the next video we're about to show you is disturbing. it shows how a normal afternoon at a grocery store turned into a scene of terror. take a listen. >> we don't know if there's a shooter, active shooter somewhere. could be in the store. >> he went in there. >> he went in the store? >> he went right down there. >> oh, my god. guys, we got people down inside king soopers. look, there's -- holy [ bleep ]. >> police used an armored vehicle to ram the building and urged the suspect to surrender.
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>> this is the boulder police department. the entire building is surrounded. i need you to surrender now. >> the suspect was taken into custody and is receiving medical treatment. he was the only person injured in that attack. boulder police chief maris herold thanked federal and local law enforcement for their quick response and assistance. she also paid tribute to 51-year-old officer eric talley, who was killed. he was the first to arrive at the supermarket after a report of shots being fired. take a listen. >> the heroic action of this officer when he responded to this scene at 1430 hours, the boulder police department began receiving phone calls of shots fired in the area and a phone call about a possible person with a patrol rifle. officer talley responded to the scene, was the first on the
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scene, and he was fatally shot. i also want to commend the heroic actions of the officers responding not only from boulder p.d. but from across the county and other parts of this region. police officers' actions fell nothing short of being heroic. i also want to thank the men and women who responded, including state, local, and federal authorities. obviously this is a very complex investigation that will take no less than five days to complete. and, again, my heart goes out to the victims of this incident, and i'm grateful for the police officers that responded. and i am so sorry about the loss of officer talley.
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and, again, we will be here working night and day. we have one suspect in custody. i want to reassure the community that they are safe and that we will try to do our best over the next few hours to identify the victims and will be working with the coroner's office to do that as promptly as possible because i know there are people out there waiting for an answer. and i am very sympathetic to that, and we will work around the clock to get this accomplished. >> cnn's lucy kafanov has been tracking this breaking story. she filed this report from outside the supermarket. >> reporter: a tragic monday here in boulder. ten people lost their lives in the shooting at king soopers supermarket. now, this is a supermarket that's part of a large shopping area. there are a lot of folks sort of going about their business.
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but at about 2:30 p.m. local time, police said they started getting those frantic 911 calls reporting an active shooter in the area. one of the calls said there was someone with a patrol rifle in the area. police responded to the scene. one of the first officers to respond was boulder police department officer eric talley, 51 years old. he's been with the department since 2010. he was one of the victims, one of the ten people to lose their lives. we understand from authorities they describe this as a complex investigation that's going to take no less than five days to complete. there is no information about the shooter. the suspect is in custody. we understand from authorities that the suspect was injured, was taken to hospital for treatment of those injuries. but this investigation is just beginning. we also know from officials that the death toll could have been higher. there are a lot of agencies who
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responded to the scene. several local police departments, the atf, the fbi. we actually saw fbi officers walking around, conducting their investigation, responding to the tragedy that took place here. now, the district attorney described this as a terrible and horrific mass shooting. he said that this is going to be a painstaking investigation. he confirmed that the shooter is indeed in custody, and we also heard from the governor, jared polis, who said -- and i quote -- today we saw the face of evil. i'm grieving with my community and all coloradans. lucy kafanov, cnn, boulder. >> soon after the shooting, cnn anchor erin burnett was able to talk with a man who was inside the grocery store when the shooting started. and she asked him when he first realized something was wrong. >> a loud bang. thought something dropped --
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some employee dropped something. a second loud bang, then a third, and we were all running. we knew by the third to run. at least everybody near me did. i was luckily walking away from the sound of the bullets when they started, and we just all ran to the back of the store and out the back door, and employees showed us the way. and we told the employees what was going on, so everybody helped each other. we just ran to safety as quickly as we could. boulder feels like a bubble, and the bubble burst. and that's heartbreaking to think that people died in this today. you know, my -- it doesn't feel like there's anywhere safe
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anymore sometimes. and this feels like the safest spot in america, and i just nearly got killed for getting a soda, you know, and a bag of chips. >> horrendous witness account there. for more, let's bring in steve moore. he is a cnn law enforcement contributor and retired fbi supervisory special agent. thank you so much for being with us. >> thanks for having me. >> so, steve, ten people were tragically killed in this mass shooting, including a police officer. the suspect is in custody right now, so what will police be asking him to try to establish what his motive may have been and whether he perhaps planned more attacks? >> well, i don't think they're going to have to ask him very much. i think his desire is going to be to tell them all about all of his grievances, all of his -- all of his -- the things that really infuriate him, things
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that to you and me might not make sense and would certainly not justify taking a life, but in his mind, justified killing ten people and effectively ending his own life. so he will want to tell them because that's -- i mean he made a bold statement, and so he's not going to hide it. >> so what are you able to establish from what you know so far about what has been brought to bear, what we understand happened? and talk to us about what more questions you would be asking at this time. >> really, rosemary, i'm kind of at a loss the way everyone else is right now because when you go into that location, you're just getting random people. so my first thought would be i'd
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want a team working on doing a background investigation on the shooter to find out did he have any connection to this store, to this chain, to anybody in the store? you'll be interviewing witnesses to find out if anybody recognizes him. mainly you're going to be interviewing employees of the store and saying, you know, have you ever seen him before? why would he do this? then you're going to be interviewing his family members, friends if he had any. you're going to be essentially writing his biography as you go. and, you know, i heard them say that this investigation isn't going to be finished for five days. i don't think they meant what it came out to be because this investigation isn't going to be completed in five months, much less five days. >> do you think there's any significance to the detail we heard from one harrowing witness
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report that he made his way to the line where people were receiving the covid vaccine? >> that is very curious, and one might wonder if he was denied -- if he was denied a vaccine, whether he is somebody who believes that the vaccine is -- is something that is evil. there are groups that will not take the vaccine because they believe that it -- they have a myriad of reasons not to take the vaccine. but he might have a grudge against anybody who would force this on people, and so, yes, i think that's a very valid -- that's a very valid line of questioning. but, again, they're not going to have to ask many questions because he's going to tell them. but the problem now is verifying
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everything he says because he can say one thing and it not be true. you need to verify every single thing he tells you. if he says he bought this gun or loaded the ammunition yesterday, you're going to validate every single thing he says so you know if everything he's telling you tends to be a lie or whether he is being straight up with you. >> all right. steve moore, thank you so much for talking with us. we do appreciate your analysis. well, kroger, the parent company of the king soopers store brand says it is horrified and saddened by the colorado shooting. in a statement, kroger says the boulder supermarket will remain closed during police investigations. the statement also reads in part, "the entire kroger family offers our thoughts, prayers, and support to our associates, customers, and the first
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responders who so bravely responded to this tragic situation." well, multiple law enforcement agencies participated in a rolling vigil through the streets of boulder on monday to pay tribute to eric talley, the officer killed in the mass shooting. the father of seven was a veteran in boulder's police department. top officials say he was a great officer. >> my heart goes out to eric talley's family, his loved ones, and his colleagues. he was, by all accounts, one of the outstanding officers of the boulder police department, and his life was cut far too short as he responded to the shooting that was taking place at king soopers.
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back to our top story now, ten people were killed including a police officer after a gunman opened fire at a grocery store in boulder, colorado. this is the second mass shooting in the u.s. in less than a week.
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boulder police say a suspect is in custody and was injured during monday's incident. earlier cnn spoke with a family member of some of the witnesses. he described how they managed to escape. >> they were right there from the first shot to the last, and paul was in line to go get a covid shot. third person in line, and that's when at least one shooter came in and killed the woman at the front of the line in front of him. i think thankfully the girls didn't see that. they were on the phone with their other grandmother, and they all then eight shots in a row. there may have been as many as 50 or 60 shots according to my son-in-law. >> and so your son-in-law quickly scooped up the girls, and they ran upstairs to a
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closet, and they hid. >> thank god. you know, then paul would come out and try to silence phones and didn't know who was coming up the stairs next. a lot of action was right below them at the pharmacy. extraordinarily terrifying. of course the little one saying, yeah, and the coats weren't long enough to hide our feet as they were standing behind the coats in the closet. >> a nightmare report there. just hours from now, the senate judiciary committee will hold a hearing on ways to reduce gun violence across the country. the hearing will unquestionably take on even more urgency in the wake of the tragedies in boulder and atlanta. and already one senator from colorado is weighing in. in a tweet, democrat john hickenlooper says the country has a horrific problem with gun violence. he says, quote, we need federal
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action now. dr. joe sacron is the director of emergency general surgery at johns hopkins hospital, and he joins us now. doctor, thank you so much for talking with us under such tragic circumstances. >> of course. thanks for having me. >> so, doctor, another mass shooting in this country, this time in boulder, colorado. you are a gun violence survivor yourself, and you've pushed back against calls from the nra for doctors and surgeons to stay out of the gun debate. what goes through your mind when you see another mass shooting in this country? >> yeah. i mean, look, first of all let me just say that, you know, of course our hearts go out to the families in boulder, the community of boulder, the state of colorado, but frankly the entire nation that, you know, continues time and time again to
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be impacted by these senseless tragedies that are happening all across our country. you know, we are facing a public health crisis, and, you know, frankly while these mass shootings are often highlighted in the media, the reality is that we have communities of color that being impacted on a daily basis in cities like baltimore, philadelphia, and chicago. and so we really, i think, have both the opportunity and the responsibility to do more than simply provide rhetoric over the media and actually take action and honor these, you know, continued victims that we are seeing day in and day out. >> and, doctor, the suspect in this shooting is now in custody, but we don't know his motive at this point or how he obtained his weapon. but we do know that ten people
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have lost their lives as a result of this man's actions. why do we keep seeing this happen in america, and what do you want to see happen to stop these mass shootings taking place? >> yeah. i mean just think about this. you have ten families right now that are completely devastated, families of individuals that were, you know, out getting a vaccination for the coronavirus or doing their regular shopping. and now their world will never be the same. the reality is, is that anytime you have these complex public health problems, there is no one solution. it requires a multifaceted approach. and so some of the things, you know, that we continue to push for are these common sense measures that frankly the majority of americans agree upon, like expanding and strengthening our background check system, like incentivizing states to really implement the
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extreme risk protection laws, also known as the red flag laws. like investing in community violence intervention programs. tomorrow we have a senate judiciary hearing on gun violence prevention, and i think it's about time that our elected officials go beyond simply talking about this issue. we have literally human lives that are being injured and killed on a daily basis. and, you know, frankly, you know, we do this time and time again while we're not seeing the same thing in other countries. so we have the ability to change the current status quo. we just have to have the moral courage to do that. >> yeah. unfortunately so many politicians say today is not the day to discuss this, and time passes, and they don't confront this situation in this country. and, doctor, you started hashtag
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#thisismyline in response to the nra telling doctors and surgeons to stay out of the gun debate. how difficult has it been to get your message across, and how much resistance do you get from the nra every time you speak out? >> yeah. so i think when you look at clinicians and the whole "this is our land" movement, you know, we came together because we are the ones that are at the center of taking care of these patients day in and day out. and what we realized is that just like any other complex problem, there is no one person and one organization that's going to solve this issue. and the reality is responsible gun owners agree with us. so when i look at organizations like the nra, the problem are not the responsible gun owners that are part of nra. the problem is the corruption leadership that exists with nra, and frankly the leadership of the nra does not represent the membership. we have seen that through numerous surveys and numerous
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demonstrations that there is a lot of commonality that exists among americans when we are talking about these common sense measures. >> and, doctor, just very quickly, why do you think so many americans believe owning a gun is the answer to the increased gun violence in this country because most people living outside of the united states don't understand that reasoning? >> yeah. i think that's a false narrative that has been proven false through numerous studies, that owning a gun does not necessarily make you safer. in fact, it puts you at increased risk for both homicide and suicide. and the reality is, is that we are not talking about taking away guns from responsible owners. what we're talking about is ensuring that people who shouldn't have firearms don't get the firearms. we're talking about closing the loophole like the charleston
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loophole. we're talking about ensuring that people that are in crisis have family members and people within their community that can help them prevent, you know, an attempted suicide. we're talking about measures that are relatively straightforward and the majority of americans agree upon. >> and yet still so much resistance. dr. joe sakran, thank you so much for talking with us. we appreciate it. >> thanks so much for having me. do stay with us for more on the breaking news in boulder, colorado, where a mass shooting unfolded at a supermarket. we will have eyewitness accounts of what happened inside that store. >> i heard this sort of big bang, and i was like, that's kind of weird. i didn't know if it was a gunshot or whatever, but i was -- it was probably like three seconds before i heard another. it's like bang, bang, bang, bang, bang. i immediately sprinted over to
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>> announcer: this is cnn breaking news. we are following the breaking news out of boulder, colorado, where a mass shooting unfolded monday afternoon, shaking the city to its core. here's what we know. ten people are dead, including one police officer in a shooting at the king soopers supermarket. one suspect is in custody. police responded to reports of an active shooter just before
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3:00 p.m. local time, and eyewitness video shows s.w.a.t. teams moving in and trying to enter the building. the officer who was killed was 51-year-old eric talley. he was the first on the scene. boulder county's district attorney addressed the tragedy monday night and said he would do everything in his power to get justice for the victims. >> boulder has suffered a terrible and horrific mass shooting today, and i want to second what the chief said about the appreciation for the local, state, and federal partners that have responded to this location and to help with the investigation. this is not the first mass shooting that we've had in the state of colorado. and one thing that's happened in response to each and every one, including today's horrific acts, is the response that we had from law enforcement partners throughout the metro area, victim advocates from throughout the area around boulder, and investigators from local, state,
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and federal agencies as well as prosecutors from the u.s. attorney's office and from my office to ensure that justice is done. my heart goes out to eric talley's family, his loved ones, and his colleagues. he was by all accounts one of the outstanding officers of the boulder police department, and his life was cut far too short as he responded to the shooting that was taking place at king soopers. i also want to stress how incredibly sorry i am for all the victims who were killed at king soopers. these were people going about their day, doing their food shopping, and their lives were cut abruptly and tragically short by the shooter, who is now in custody. i promise the victims and the people of the state of colorado that we will secure justice and do everything we must do to get justice in this case. in order for that to happen, a
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painstaking investigation is already under way both at the crime scene and in interviews to make sure that we receive all the accurate information. once that information is secured, we'll be sharing that with the media and with the community. i would say that i hope the people of this country send the families of the loved ones their thoughts and prayers. but from my perspective, there's more for us to do than just give them our thoughts and prayers. we're going to go all out to ensure that the right result is reached, and that's why i'm very grateful that we do have local, state, and federal agencies all responding to this location here today to ensure that the investigation is thorough and complete. >> and boulder police say they got into a gunfight with the suspect as soon as they entered the building. they described the confrontation in these recordings from police scanners.
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>> 136. we're in a gunfight. 136, still multiple shots being fired at us. >> i copy. we're taking multiple rounds. >> we're taking rifle fire as soon as we, patrol, entered the building. >> start pushing slow. be advised we do not know where he is. he is armed with a rifle. our officers shot back and returned fire. we do not know where he is in the store. >> it is just chilling to hear this. and cnn law enforcement analyst and former fbi supervisory special agent peter licata joins us now from mogadishu in somalia. thanks so much for being with us. >> thank you, rosemary. >> so we still don't know the motive behind this mass shooting in boulder, colorado, but the suspect is now in custody. so how do police go about asking the right questions to establish why the shooter did this? >> well, unfortunately over the
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last ten years, law enforcement has become too familiar on how to deal with these situations. so the interview of the shooter is either going to be custodial where he'll be read his miranda rights or he'll be talked to. regardless, that's for the district attorney and law enforcement to decide how they approach him. that being said, it will be a very thorough interview as to what his state of mind is, what his motivation was, where or how and when did he procure the rifle, the ammunition. and at the same time that's going on, i can assure you warrants are being drafted for searches of his residence, for his vehicle, and for his electronic devices -- laptop, desktop, cell phones, plural, and that's will be gone through. and that information will get corroborated with his story, whichever story he decides to tell, if he decides to tell a story at all. this will be a detailed investigation, and, again,
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unfortunately law enforcement is too well versed on how to deal with this. >> yeah, it is a sad reality, isn't it? so what is your reading of what happened at this supermarket, and what questions would you be asking right now? >> i'd be asking those specific questions, more so you start out with a soft dialogue. you appease to perhaps if this individual has any sympathy, any empathy to the fact that we just want to get to the bottom of it and let him tell his story. then meanwhile, all that information is being corroborated through exploitation of his social media accounts, all his electronic media, and then the interviews, interviews from witnesses, the victims if you will that were able to get out safely, interviews of his neighbors, interviews of his family, colleagues, work soassociates s get into his state of mind and corroborate that. it's a very detailed checklist
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that has to go on. then in this day and age, we still have to match up the tangible evidence with the story. so in united states, you're still innocent until proven guilty. now, we all know he did it. there's going to be video of him. there's going to be witness accounts. it's clear. but all that still has to be done methodically. match that weapon to him. match that ammunition to him, whether it's through latent prints or dna trace to make sure this is a clear-cut, lock solid case. as in your previous segment, the district attorney for boulder basically said it is his job to make sure that this incident ends up in proper justice. and law enforcement there in boulder in conjunction with the fbi and other entities need to take their time, which they will do, and do it right. don't take shortcuts, which they won't. and do this deliberately in order to gain justice for the families and for america in general. >> and, peter, as you mentioned, we do see this over and over again tragically.
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what is your reaction to another mass shooting in this country, the second in less than a week? and what needs to happen to bring an end to gun violence in america? >> i can't explain how upset i am at this. two shootings in less than a week. you've had a little over a month ago, you had two fbi agents shot dead as they're trying to execute a search warrant on a child pornography case. i am personally tired of it. unfortunately i have responded to a first responder or an active shooter in kenya a few years ago. my family was directly involved in the sandy hook shooting. my godson was in the second grade classroom, and my niece was two doors down. so i have personal experience with this. i am frankly tired of it, and i'm not going to get into the political side of this. but i personally, as a former law enforcement officer of over
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20 years and a u.s. citizen, i'm tired of hearing pundits say, it's time to pray. it's time to reflect. yeah, we can do that, but i'm tired of hearing it's not time for action. it's time for action. something has to be done, something within the confines and the framework of the constitution as the founding fathers drafted it and something that brings us to the modern age of what's going on. >> yeah. i mean it is hard to understand why nothing was done during the sandy hook experience and now here we are yet again. it's over and over again. hopefully something will be done. peter licata, thank you so much for talking with us. we appreciate it. >> my pleasure. thank you. much more ahead on our breaking news coverage. do stay with us on "cnn newsroom". and honest bidding site. we sold an ipad worth $505 for less than
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germany will extend its current lockdown until april 18th due to a rise in coronavirus cases in the country. chancellor angela merkel also
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announced an even stricter lockdown period over the easter holiday. >> translator: during this time, there will also be a ban on public gatherings. outside dining that has reopened will be closed again during this five days and only strictly food shops will be allowed to open on saturday. >> in the past 24 hours, germany has reported more than 7,400 new coronavirus infections. that's an increase of 2,000 more than tuesday of last week. and british prime minister boris johnson has talked down the possibility of an eu blockade of the astrazeneca vaccine to his country. it comes amid warnings from the head of the european commission, ursula von der leyen. she says the option of withholding vaccine exports is very much on the table amid another shortfall in vaccine deliveries from astrazeneca. mr. johnson also warned that the rise in cases currently being seen across europe could be felt
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in britain. >> we're all facing the same pandemic. we all have the same problems. i think it's worth stressing that on the continent right now, you can see sadly there is a third wave under way, and people in this country should be under no illusions that previous experience has taught us that when a wave hits our friends, it, i'm afraid, washes up on our shores as well. i expect that we will feel those effects in due course. that's why we're getting on with our vaccination program as fast as we can. >> meantime, brazil has now surpassed 12 million confirmed cases of covid-19. despite having the second highest case count in the world, president jair bolsonaro says he isn't convinced brazil should change its policy toward the pandemic. he's even drawn the disdain of venezuela's embattled president,
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nicolas maduro, who calls brazil a global threat. the governor of sao paulo state is also criticizing brazil's president. >> we are in one of those tragic moments in history when millions of people pay a high price for having an unprepared and psychopathic leader in charge of a nation. since the beginning of the pandemic in brazil, 295,000 brazilians have died. much of these deaths could have been prevented in president jair bolsonaro had acted with the responsibility that the position gives him. the united states and its allies are slapping new sanctions on china over its treatment of uighurs. a joint statement from the u.s., canada, the united kingdom, and the european union cites china's extensive repression of the muslim minority, including forced labor, mass detentions, and forced sterilization.
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china hit back with sanctions of its own against the eu, which is calling on beijing to engage in dialogue on human rights rather than being confrontational. >> rather than change its policies and address our legitimate concern, china has again turned a blind eye, and these measures are regrettable and unacceptable. >> and cnn's selena wang is following developments live from tokyo. she joins us now. good to see you, selena. what message does this coordinated effort of sanctions against china send, and what impact will it likely have? >> reporter: well, rosemary, this very carefully orchestrated action sends an extremely powerful message to beijing. it is a show of force meant to isolate and pressure china. so no surprise we're seeing an immediate reaction from beijing. china has imposed sanctions on ten european individuals as well
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as four entities, accusing them of, quote, spreading lies and disinformation. this has the effect on the target of blocking them from entering mainland china, hong kong, or macao. it also bars their related companies, restricting them from doing business with china. now, this is all part of that multilateral effort with the u.s., uk, eu, and canada all levying their own sanctions on chinese individuals and officials accused of human rights abuses in xinjiang. and it is in line with the biden administration's strategy of working multilaterally, working with allies to counter china. there was also a strongly worded statement from the five eyes alliance as well as from u.s. secretary of state antony blinken saying, quote, the evidence including from the chinese government's own documents, satellite imagery, and eyewitness testimony is overwhelming. china's extensive program of oppression includes severe
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restrictions on religious freedoms, the use of forced labor, mass detention in internment camps, forced sterilizations and the concerted destruction of uighur heritage. rosemary, this is a very far cry from the trump administration's go it alone strategy when it comes to sanctions. we saw the biden administration recently coordinate with the eu when it comes to sanctions against russia. but dealing with china is more challenging and complex because of how important beijing is economically. you have the eu and uk trying to simultaneously boost economic ties with china while also confronting china on these human rights issues. and it's not clear how that is all going to play out. just a few months ago, the eu and china reached an agreement on a major investment accord. that took seven years of negotiation. and now after all this, that could all be in jeopardy. rosemary. >> yeah. we will be watching very closely. selena wang bringing us the latest there from tokyo.
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many thanks. two years of political gridlock in israel has brought voters out for election after election. will the fourth time be the charm? we will go live to a polling station next.
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thousands more evacuations could soon be ordered in australia's state of new south wales, which has faced days of historic, life-threatening rain and flooding, and even more rain is expected through wednesday. officials say as many as 15,000 people could join the 18,000 who have already been moved to safe zones. the state's premier calls the situation catastrophic. right now voting is under way in israel for the fourth election in two years. polling stations have been open for a couple of hours now. prime minister benjamin netanyahu is hoping his handling of the coronavirus pandemic will save his political future. in fact, some polling stations are set up to allow covid patients to cast their votes safely. elliott gotkine joins me now reporting live from a polling station in jerusalem. is there any reason to believe
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the outcome of israel's fourth election in two years will be any different from the three that came before it? >> reporter: rosemary, i guess we live in hope, and certainly every party leader would say that they certainly don't want to see israel going to a fifth election. but it all comes down to the numbers. certainly according to the opinion polls, although benjamin netanyahu's likud party is forecast to have a clear lead and be the biggest in parliament, it looks like he would have his work cut out in putting together a coalition that would have 61 seats, a majority in the 120-seat knesset. likewise for the centrist party of yesh atid, it's also hard to see how they could make the numbers work either. and things are complicated somewhat by some party leaders showing their cards. so, for example, gideon saar who split from the likud party, he has said he will not sit in a coalition government led by
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prime minister netanyahu even though ideologically they're pretty much on the same page. you've got also from the right bennett of thia mina party. he's been more circumspect. but what he has said is that he wouldn't sit in a coalition government led by a prime minister. so whether people play the cards that they've kind of shown already once it comes down to the crunch of course remains to be seen. but right now it does seem that it's going to be a very tight race and perhaps a deadlocked one once the results come through. >> right. elliott, how can absentee ballots affect the outcome? >> reporter: so in israel they're kind of known as double envelope votes. usually this is for diplomats, for soldiers, for prisoners. this time around, it's also going to include people coming to drive-through polling booths like these set up for the 15,000 or so israelis who are currently
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suffering from coronavirus and also for the 65,000 or so who are in quarantine. in addition to that, people in nursing homes will also submit these kind of ballots. and so we could get twice as many as usual double envelope votes and that could delay the final result. in addition to that, rosemary, you've got a number of parties, about a half a dozen or so, hovering around the threshold of 3.25% of the vote that each party needs in order to get into parliament. if they don't meet that threshold, those votes simply go down the drain. if that happens to supporters of netanyahu or supporters of his opponents, then that could have a very big impact on the overall result. rosemary. >> all right. we'll see how it all turns out. elliott gotkine joining us live from jerusalem. many thanks. thank you for joining us. i'm rosemary church. "early start" with laura jarrett and christine romans is next.
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this is cnn breaking news. >> welcome to our viewers in the united states and all around the world. this is "early start," i'm laura jarrett. >> and i'm christine romans. it's march 23rd, 4:00 a.m. in new york. we begin with the breaking news from boulder, colorado. authorities say ten people including a police officer were shot and killed at the kings supermarket. a suspect was taken into custody as is being treated for injuries. so far police have not determined a motive. witnesses at the scene describe a harrowing attack as gunfir

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