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again. we can save lives and increasing background checks and limit assault weapons and the size of magazines. we continue to say it years after years and day after day and shooting after shooting. the stories and the images are horrifically familiar in the united states. soto is the anger and grief. tonight we grieve again for pe people's lives lost. denney strong was age 20. neven stanisic age 59. suz suzanne fountain age 59.

teri leiker age 51. officer eric talley, age 51. lynn murray 62, jodi waters, age 65. everyone of these names human beings with a full, full lived life and they're now dead. this mass shooting came within a week after the mass shooting in atlanta where eight people lost their lives. president biden ordered u.s. flags to be lowered half staff for the atlanta shooting. they were just raised to full staff yesterday. 17 hours after that, not even a full day, once again half staff. it shows this horrific ritual in this country that continues to

take place. today this is what we are hearing from washington. >> every time there is a shooting we play this ridiculous theater where this committee gets together and proposes a bunch of laws that would do nothing to stop these murders. >> the solution is to do nothing? wait for the next shoo ting which will inevitably come and say thoughts and prayers for lives sense lessly lost? we'll have more of the heated debate on gun control coming up. first, i want to get to the latest o f this investigation of the shooting. kung is live. >> you can see a steady stream

of the people arriving here dropping flowers. this investigation is focusing on why. who is this shooter? family and friends painting a portrait of a young man who was struggling and had access to guns. he was walking to s.w.a.t. officers to surrender. he had been shot in the leg and removed of his clothing except for shots shorts .

the affidavit says the suspect did not answer questions, though he asked to speak to his mother. i know there is an extensive investigation just getting underway into his background. he lived most of his life in the united states. we are still at the early stages of the investigation. al issa struggles with mental illness. he was bullied for being muslims. people chose not to mess with him because of his temper. yeah, he was very alone but when

he was with you, he's approachable. al issa's brother says he never knew him to own guns. law enforcement did uncover additional guns from the gunman's home. i also saw the gunman himself holding a semiautomatic rifle, he was on the handicap rail to the entrance of the store. newly released document say witnesses saw the suspect fatally shoot two people in the parking lot. the first officer to confront the gunman was killed and shot in the head. as the shooter continues to roam the store busy with shoppers and people waiting to be vaccinated in the store. >> that's when one shooter came in and killed the woman in front of him. they ran upstairs to hide. they hid in a coat closet standing up for 45 minutes. >> the gunman was led away, ten laid dead at the store. >> officer eric talley, 51. >> one by one, the police chief

spelled out all the names of the victims including her own officer, eric talley. i just had that officer's whole family in my office two weeks ago to give him an award. it is personal. this is my community. >> al issa. >> reporter: in just a couple of hours all of this gathering that you are seeing here in front of the store will move to downtown boulder where this community will come together, erin, to remember the people they lost and bear the scars of being the latest city to be survivors of another mass shooting. kyung lah, thank you. erin, i appreciate your time and there is a lot we don't know, we are learning more details of what the suspect did,

details about the past of this individual. what goes through your mind the more we learn about, i mean all of it and how many guns the person had and people did not realize it. the paranoia that he seems to exhibit. >> well, we are still learning all these details as you mention. my thought goes to the victims today and the ten people that were lost and their families. our focus is mourning those people and supporting them and their families and their loved ones however we can. >> i spoke last night to someone who was inside the king soopers when the shooting happened. i want to play for you of what he told us. >> boulder feels like a bubble and the bubble bursts and it is heartbreaking to think that.

people die today and -- you know we just - it does not feel like anywhere is safe anywhere. this feels like the safest spot in america and i just nearly got killed for getting a soda you know and a bag of chips. so -- does not feel good. >> do you feel like the bubble bursts? >> i do. it is heartbreaking. you watch over the years and decades and mass shootings all over our country and you pray it does not come to your town or community or friends or family. yesterday, it did, it came to our city of boulder. i wish we can say we are safe here but it is not. it is tragic. >> the suspect was armed with two guns.

those were semiautomatic handguns and either an assault rifle or so-called black ar-15. i know that you help pass the assault weapon ban in boulder. that was struck down ten days before the shooting. and we understand from the affidavit that the suspect's handgun was purchased on march 26th -- march 16th, i apologize. it is unclear when the ar-15 style gun was purchased. do you think this tragedy would have been prevented if your ban had not been in place and phased out ten days ago. >> i don't know where those guns were purchased. it is a tragic consequence dense that our ban struck down before this incredibly awful tragedy happened. we passed that ban in 2018, we

worked hard with that trying to prevent this exact incident. i hope we get that as soon as possible. aaron brockett. i appreciate you. >> i want to go to tim clemente. tim, we don't know the motive yet and the suspect's brother. the affidavit says he had two guns on him and he was wearing tactical gear, armour vest. what does all of that tell you of his intent? >> it tells me he had planned this event where he's going to kill as many people as possible. the fact that his brother did not know he had a weapon. i read one story where a sister

in law had seen him playing with a gun, those were the words in the article within the last week. it seems to me that if the family knew he had mental stability issues or paranoia, they should have done more than just tell him to stop playing with the guns which is what the article i read stated. it is concerning because this person has a past history of violence. he has a prior arrest. they ended up in a fight with one of the wrestlers. he had quit the team. i am sure the family did not expect this specific thing would happen. i feel terrible for the family but the family is the one closest to the shooter every time and they have to know.

>> the suspect's brother is suffering from mental illness. he thought he was being followed and chased and paranoia. there are a lot of pieces to this. we look at ten people dead. the age range is very broud, it appears to be who happens to be at the check-out area. ten people between the ages of 20 and 65. what does it tell you? >> it tells you it was a monday afternoon and we talk about mental illness and most motivated him. and so there is multiplicity of complex issues that leads to gun violence including they're all

men. i think the question of this sort of why, why is this happening or why did this particular individual do it is the very question that opponents of gun control want us to ask. they want us to look at each of these things differently. why did this guy do this or that. rather than taking a step back and asking how. how is this happening. and all of them are ar-15s. i have been with you long enough and the question of why is a question of benefit. those who do not want to minimize the risk of gun violence in this country. it is powerful said. you can have all the w"why" in

the world. tim, when we talk about him, you mentioned his past. we did get this information, he pleaded guilty to third degree assault. in 2017 about three years ago. according to the police report at the time, getting on top of a classmate and punching him multiple times. he pleads guilty. his reason is his victims, aa al issa's victims made fun of him and called him racial names. how much will have played into this? >> and it seems like this individual is doing exactly that.

he had grievances with people and sometimes he took it out violently. other times he screamed violently at people. the issue is his behavior led to this. now we can say it is because he had an ar-15 and may have made it easier for him. it is the behavior we have to stop. we can ban everything in the world that seems like it is a weapon but the behavior still allows somebody that wants somebody to kill. that truly is a societal problem we have to remedy. >> i appreciate both of your time. thank you very much. next, i want to speak to a close friend. a 59-year-old, suzanne fountain, died in the shooting. what her friend wants to know about this woman, that she calls a bright light. and mass shootings in one week. >> thoughts and prayers can't

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suzanne is someone that i have known since the late '80s when we met during a community theater production. she was a wonderful actress by the way. we found out this morning. we started getting texts from all over because our crew and friends and neighbors and when the list came out, she had an unusual name and we thought oh no, hopefully it won't be her. it is a terrible loss of an incredible human being. >> we see her picture smiling and gives a sense that she's a person of a big smile and a big life. you just mentioned you known her for a long time since the late 1980s. i know you say you could not help but to hit it off with her. bring her to life for all of us for people watching tonight. bring suzanne to light.

>> she was the type of person that if you were having a bad day or you had a tense moment, if she was around and you saw that smile, she just would light up the room and she was a bright light. she was one of those people that i think a lot of people met her felt they already knew her. she was warm, funny and smart and really dependable. we actually hired her after she volunteered at our non-profit for a number of years. she worked with us for 17 years and everyone loved her. you could really, really relate to her and she would be the first person, the nonprofit building that you would operate. she would take care of everybody and calm and reassuring and when things were stressful, again,

she was a wonderful actress. all of her life really she was about doing service and helping others. she worked at the hospital here for a number of years helping patients who were under great duress kind of waited through and navigated through the difficult insurance stream that you you had to go through. later she became a medicare consultant. all you have to do is be around her and she will give you a hug and everything is better. >> what do you do now? how do you cope of the unimaginable? surely you like me and anyone watching would never think this would happen and now it has. >> i have to speak for everyone who knew her and everyone here

in boulder, you hear about these shootings and i would have great empathy for these communities, many of them small and many of them like boulder, you know your neighbor, it is a friendly town. you never think it is going to happen here and especially to someone like suzanne. i am sure the other victims are equally as wonderful and i grieve for them and families, too. i think we are still a little bit in shock. we are stunned. we have to take one day at a time and remember what she did for all of us and you know you hold someone in your heart. i think that's a lot of us will be doing moving forward. >> helen, thank you very much. >> thank you for very quickly for humanizing these victims. it is easy to hear about these

things and your mind goes numb. oh, it is just ten more people or eight more people or whatever. i thank you for giving me the chance to speak on behalf of suzanne. >> thank you so much helen. next, ted cruz firing back after democrats say "enough with the thoughts and prayers." >> thoughts and prayeres lead t action. >> senator richard blumenthal is my guest. sidney powell, her claim of election fraud. she now says no reasonable person would take her comments seriously. she's trying to get powell barred is "outfront."

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president biden on gun control in the wake of the super market massacre.

>> do you believe you have the political capital to make changes? >> i hope so. phil mattingly is "outfront." is there any signs it will be different with president biden? >> not at the moment, erin. i don't think the dynamics have changed on capitol hill. chuck schumer has made clear they'll debate two house bills related to background checks. the big question is where the white house is going to be on this. there is no question on the campaign trail but it is not a top tier priority for the white house up to this point.

laser focus on economic issues and coronavirus issues as well. the president wants this to be across the agenda item. are they going to follow through on that? they know one that to get anything of substance done, they'll need congress and they'll need republican votes which they don't have. this is an issue congress after congress and it seems like decades. this is an issue that's not going away and obviously two mass shootings. and the most telling thing from the course of this day is the comment you played from president biden. if you talk to white house officials, they are optimistic on everything and even things they seem difficult to achieve.

he didn't know and he understand the dynamics and he's been through this as a senator and dealing with it as a president. there is no clear pathway forward to pass anything subst subst. a lot of this is going to depend on what kinds of efforts the white house put in over the course and weeks and months. >> thank you phil. the massacre in boulder leading to a heated back and forth on capitol hill today over how to prevent the next tragedy. >> in action has made this horror completely predictable. in action by congress makes us complicit. along with hopes and thou thoug

and prayers. thoughts and prayers can't save the eight victims in atlanta or the ten last night, including the brave police officer. >> every mass shooting as democrats propose taking guns from law-abiding citizens. what do they propose? not only it does not reduce crimes, it makes it worse. i will not apologize for thought and prayers, i will lift up for people who are hurting and i believe in the power of the contempt of democrats for prayers is an odd sociological thing. >> senator cruz is saying you and your party is just playing politics after mass shootings. he went so far to call it ridiculous theater. what do you say to senator cruz? >> to senator cruz i would say

thoughts and prayers are good but they are not enough and after every one of these shootings, my republican colleagues say they are oftferig thoughts and prayers but they opposed measures to separate people from guns when those people are dangerous. when armed with a gun, she becomes a monster and a mass murder. in boulder, that shooter is a deeply disturbed man who became a mass killer because he had an assault weapon that can kill people with the efficiency and speed meant for the battlefield. guns make all these problems

more fatally and violently. that's why we need to make sure we adopt these common sense measures. >> you heard president biden said he did not know if he can get gun control done for congress. he had not looked tat the numbers. senator joe manchin does not support two bills already passed by the house that biden was touting today. putting aside republicans, if you don't have senator manchin, is this a non-starter? >> erin, we should not be putting aside republicans, they bear responsibilities as well. that was the whole point of my exchange this morning with senator cruz because they're the

ones ducking that responsibility and becomes complicit. it is not just boulder and it is 100 killings a day and not to mention the emotional traumas and injuries that results in eight children that are lost everyday of guns that is are stored unsafely. i think my republican colleagues are going to be put on record. we'll have a vote. we have a president who's committed to this cause, both house of congress and most importantly we have a popular political movement, a grass root movement led by a new generation bik like the parkland students. >> before we go, i want to ask you something else, two of your colleagues are vowing to propose all of their words, for him to

commit more asian islanders to appoint more representatives. do you support banning all white nominees until an asian-pacific islander is nominated? >> i am not sure if i would support that specific ban. it is actually something i have not discussed with them. i want to hear their point of view. i deeply respect them and i think they are right to raise awareness of the need of asian-americans, pacific islanders being represented. that's part of our racial movement that we are living through right now and we owe it to them to hear them out. >> i understand what you are saying and i know you want to talk to them more. but, do you have hesitation when it comes out the way i said it which is banning white nominees

until there is one of another. it sounds a lot uglier when it is put that way. >> i am not sure if that's how they would put it and would want them to express it with their own words. the biden's cabinet is one of the most diverse in recent history and i deeply respect the president for the diversity of his cabinet. >> all right, i appreciate your time, it will be interesting to see if they define non-diverse in a different way. thank you, senator. >> "outfront" next, she claims she had proofs of election fraud. now her story is changing. >> flags are at half staff tonight as we remember the ten victims who lost their lives in yesterday's mass shooting.

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tonight sidney powell and top cheerleader for the big lie dismissing her own eleclaims fo election fraud. okay, i am not joking or dancing around, that's her official

defense. it is all in writing right now in court filing. the company is suing powell for damages. her lies were not limited to dominion voting machines. she went deep, deep into conspiracy world. >> what we are dealing with here and uncovering more by the day is the massive influence of communist money through venezuela, cuba, and likely china in the interference with our elections here in the united states. >> the beyer election frankly in all the swing states should be overturned and the legislatures should make sure that the electors are selected for trump.

>> dattorney general, i am glad to talk to you again. let me start with this defense that powell put out there. she's literally saying in an official filing that no reasonable person would accepted what she repeatedly said as facts? >> yep, that's her defense. and you know just basically speaking, just kidding -- all the things i said to undermine the integrity of our electoral system which we knew was a lie. a lie so outrageous that she says no reasonable person could possibly believe it but unfortunately who did believe it? 67% of all republicans believed it. 366 people have been charged with insurrection for storming the capitol, they believed it. republican legislatures like my own spent countless hours having hearings on this issue, they

believed it and all these legislatures now that are voting to enact builder suppression laws to protect against what we know to be the most fair, accurate and safest election in modern history. the damage that this individual, this women had done and hof the highest case in the land is unfold. >>s it is incredible. no reasonable person would accept that as fact. he continues to pedalled it yesterday. she now admits that something no reasonable person would accept it as facts. she did talk a lot about all of these with a long list of allegations and service to trump's big lie.

take a listen. >> we got evidence of corruption all across the country and c countless districts. the machine ran a system and it is a most agregregious fraud ev. >> i don't know why i am laughing because it is not funny. plaintiffs themselves characterize the statement issues as wild accusations and outlandish claims. they are impossible. such characterizations of allegedly defamatory statements that reasonable people would not accept such statements as fakts

but view them as only as claims. >> the last time you had me on your show, you talked about accusations that were made against myself and the governor of my state, governor whitmer and secretary benson. when we tried to disbar sidney powell. the accusation was we were abusing authority, abusing our positions of power in order to try to ensure that this woman could never practice law anywhere in the united states of america. but, i mean to see that she's blaming the victim, not only she's making no effort to determine whether the allegations she was making factually accurate, she knew it was a lie and she entered into all these court pleadings and

she argued it to the united states supreme court. it is so egregious in so many ways. it undermines our system of elections. and the lying as many people who believed her when she said that this was the truth. >> wow. strongly said. thank you very much. i appreciate it, attorney general. >> thanks for having necessity. another trump alley, roger stone facing new scrutiny. a trump ally's name showing up in court filings again and then. stone vehemently denies any involvement. jessica snider is "outfront." drawing resigned scrutiny from federal prosecutors because of the people stone is surrounded by. >> i lost my ability to make a

living. >> reporter: the woman guarding stone at this pro-trump rally in florida back in december is co connie megs, a member of the far-right militia group, the oath keepers. she is charged with conspiracy in the january 6th capitol attack. she also appears in this picture that prosecutors filed a redacted version of in court last week standing and smiling next to roger stone. prosecutors say the man standing nearby is gray den young. the group was at stone's book signing inside a space that had this life-size replica back drop of the office on december 15th. stone hasn't been charged in relation to the capitol attack but his connections to the oath keepers are well documented in court zbloegz we're in the [ bleep ] capitol. >> these other oath keeper members charged with conspiracy allegedly texted about acting assist roger stone's security

detail before the insurrection. court documents detail how jessica watkins told dosaid kro texted someone else. we'll be in the capitol tuesday and wednesday, should be fun. >> any concerns about your proud boys, oath keepers. >> reporter: guilt by association and innuendo, no journalist would ever ask that question. >> reporter: he lashed out when asked about his parent ties to these supremacist groups, but stone refused to condemn them. >> this is no less than an epic struggle for the future of this country between dark and light. between the godly and the godless. >> reporter: but roger stone was protected by members of the oath keepers the day before january 6th during this rally, according to authorities. an fbi agent telling a federal

judge in alabama that member joshua james chauffeured roger stone and he was paid around $1,500 for his work at at least two events. >> and you and you and you. >> reporter: and prosecutors also say oath keeper robert menuda seen screaming at police at the steps of the capitol had just hours before appeared outside the willard hotel in washington standing guard by roger stone's side. >> any honest investigation would prove that there's no evidence whatsoever that i either was involved in or knew about the stupid, senseless, counterproductive, illegal assault on the capitol. the folks who did invade the capitol should be prosecuted. >> roger stone declined to comment on the latest court filings that associated him with those members of the oath keepers. stone, though, has previously denied any advanced knowledge of the capitol attack, erin, and he has said he only accepted that

security from the oath keepers because of death threats. >> thank you very much, jessica. "outfront" next, flags at half staff as we honor the victims from yesterday's steve kerr, including one young woman called a shining light in a dark world. ♪ ♪ ♪ need a change of scenery? kayak searches hundreds of travel sites for flights with no change fees. so you can book a great deal now, and always change later. kayak. search one and done. not everybody wants the same thing. that's why i go with and aliberty mutualater. — they customize my car insurance so i only pay for what i need. 'cause i do things a bit differently. wet teddy bears! wet teddy bears here! only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪

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the ten lives lost from all backgrounds and ages, from 20 to 65 years old. >> our hearts ache for those who lost their lives. >> reporter: among them, 61-year-old kevin mahoney. his daughter posting a tribute on twitter to the man she calls her hero. my dad represents all things love. i'm so thankful he could walk me down the aisle last summer, she wrote, adding, i am now pregnant. i know he wants me to be strong for his granddaughter. and 25-year-old ricky olds, a manager at king sao paoloer, a a shining light, he says in this dark world. and 51-year-old officer eric talley, a husband, a father of seven who, within minutes of the first 911 reports of an armed man inside the store, ran into danger. he was the first officer on the scene and got shot and killed.

>> when the moment to act came, officer talley did not hesitate in his duty, making the ultimate sacrifice in his effort to save lives. that's the definition of an american hooero. >> reporter: he was in i.t. before becoming a police officer but pursued a career change, joining the boulder police force ten years ago. >> he didn't have to go into policing. he had a profession before this. but he felt a higher calling. he was willing to die to protect others. >> reporter: today, talley's police car parked outside the boulder police station, becoming a memorial. and a procession of his fellow officers honoring him monday evening. boulder police today revealing the other seven victims. >> the families of the victims have been notified. >> 20-year-old denny stong,

49-year-old tralona lives lost families shattered. >> our hearts go out to all the victims killed during this senseless act of violence. >> thanks to sunlen. thanks to all of you. anderson starts now. good evening, flags are flying at half staff at the white house tonight again. they were lowered today for victims of the mass shooting in boulder, colorado. they had just been raised briefly yesterday after honoring the victims at the atlanta-area mass shootings. after a long year of covid, just as we finally have a hint of normal back, this is a reminder that part of that normality that returns is gun violence. in colorado, every sensation that follows, there's the numbness and