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i tried to talk to her, god, you have no idea, i am never going to see her again. >> brian todd, thank you for that report. i am pamela brown. erin burnett with "outfront" starts right now. new details on the massacre of colorado. the insurrection investigation. new video of capitol hill's officer brian sicknick. he died the following day. our reporter out front capturing on tape of a group of migrants crossing the rio grande as president biden makes vice president kamala harris the person on point for it. good evening, i am erin burnett.
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investigators trying to piece together the motive. the alleged gunman will face the judge the first time tomorrow. investigators trying to determine why the 21-years-old chose that particular super market, king soopers market as his target. that market was about 30 minutes from his home. there were many closer. at this moment there is a growing memorial at the site of the massacre. these are live pictures you see on your screen. cards and flowers lined up at the shopping center. a touching tribute to one of the victims, officer aeric talley. he was the first at the scene, he leaves behind a wife and seven children. we are learning new details of some of the other victims including the 20-year-old
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denny stong. he worked at the store. he was a hero and believered that he tried to stop the gunman. in a moment i am going to speak to one of denny's closest friends and also neven stanisic. he was leaving the super market after being called to fix the machine. she was shot in the parking lot. and the 49-years-old tralona bartkowiak, she was planning a wedding and getting married. and teri leiker had worked at
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the grocery store for 30 years and and lynn murray, she was at the store help filling out in sta cart orders. jodi waters was 65-years-old, two children, she worked at a boutique at the denver mall. someone told the post that it sounds like a cliche but she would light up the room. lucy kafanov is live in boulder tonight. are we any closer to fiend out motive? >> reporter: the fbi is looking at everything. they are scrubbing the suspect's online activities and trying to understand his motivation for that massacre on monday. law enforcement officials tell us that federal investigators are aware of friends who say the suspect had grievances over his
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perception of how muslims were treated here in america but they caution it is too soon to draw any conclusions it is a complicated picture. >> my heart has been racing every time i tried to lay down. >> reporter: a survivor of monday's mass shooting struggles to come to grips of the violence. new details of possible direction of the investigation. law enforcement officials tells cnn that officials are examining possible mental health questions. the attack was planned given the time of ahmad al issa's timing. >> the defense had to say to someone didn't understand the impact of what they were doing. and, in this case given the number of different killings. it does appear that someone was
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acting deliberately. >> reporter: al issa was living with his brother. raising questions why he chose this store while others were closer to his home. the crime scene is a makeshift memorial. this morning, ciseveral survivo of the soopers returned to pay respects. >> logan smith, his three best friends was dead there. >> to have the words come out of his father's mouth that he was dead, i broke down crying. his other best friend, ricky o olds who he's mourning. >> we are trying to fill the memory. it is tough, it is tough.
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>> reporter: in colorado, grieve and anger. we are sad and outraged. we are crying but we are angry. >> and people have been coming here throughout the day to express that grief. there is also at least seven individuals that we know to honor and commemorate those ten lives cut too short in monday's massacre. about an hour from now, the boulder city council is holding a special meeting to create some healing for the community. erin. >> lucy, thank you. i want to go now to the governor of colorado. i appreciate your time as always. the super market was about 30 minutes to the suspect's home. there are many stores closer. anything you have learned that could suggest why this store and anything of a motive here.
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>> erin, thank you for your thoughtful way of helping to memorialize the people loss. it shows the full 360 degrees picture that we can no who those folks are as a nation. what you pointed out does seem to be an odder attribute. the investigation is underway. we have 15 of our agents on it as well as our state troopers. you absolutely put your finger on why here and why drive 30 minutes to the community where you don't live. this is mitigated pure evil but people want to know and we'll be finding out in the weeks ahead. >> you said this was a easy case to prosecute in the sense of we know who did it.
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there were numerous eye witnesses. the da says it could take up to a year for this to be completed. that sounds like a long time. >> well, you know, i am not the da. he'll speak for himself. certainly to me as a non attorney community member, it seems straightforward. a lot of witnesses and interviews with the family. they know what was going on. this is just from reading in the media. i think there is a lot out there. i don't think there will be too hard to prove. obviously from the da's perspective, they want to make sure to get the conviction. he needs to be prosecuted and prosecuted and convicted of murdering ten people. that's what we did. and i am confident that'll o occur by a jury. >> we saw touching i mages toda and people lining the streets.
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this is what you saw for officer talley as his body was taken to a funeral home. what does the loss of officer ta talley means? this is a person that had a career in i.t. he goes into law enforcement and he cared so much for his community. he lost his life as the first person responded to this. what does his loss mean to this community? >> as a father of two, anybody a father of seven deserves an award for that. on top of that putting on the uniform everyday and protecting our community and of course was answering the call of duty and running into fire to save others and lost his life that way in the community where a police officer has lost their life. i went onto the site today to lay some flowers at the memorial
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site that's been set up and took to a knee and in a thoughtful way just try to understand what happened and it is hard. the question is hard. the question is why, why, why. >> i know you have been to the super market you're, governor, you have been to this king soopers to grab a bag of chips or soda or whatever. brian borowski was just in the store and decided to get ice cream, too so he went back into the store. right after it happened on monday, he spoke to me and here is what he said. >> boulder feels like a bubble and the bubble bursts and it is heartbreaking to think that. people have died today and it
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does not feel safe anywhere anymore. this feels like the safest spot in america and i just nearly got killed for getting a soda and a bag of chips. so -- does not feel good. >> do you share that feeling where there is not anywhere safe here? >> it had ten people killed at a place that i have been to and almost every member of the community been to and this could
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be anywhere in the usa and at a grocery store and anywhere and any time. that's why it struck a cord and not just residents of boulder in colorado. erin, we appreciate the feeling way for those affected.ing our >> governor, thank you, i appreciate your time. >> thank you. the youngest victim, denny stong was only 20 years old. he worked at the super market but on this day he was just picking up groceries. the shooter arrived. his close friend bianca porter is out front now. thank you very much for coming onto talk about your dear friend. i am so sorry for your horrible loss. i know that the other day you were texting with denny, an hour before he died.
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what was that conversation like? >> just normal conversations. we are making plans to go do some practices. >> just like your normal life and planning what you were going to do together. >> exactly. >> bianca, there were these reports of your friends doing heroic things. one of the co-workers talked about how he tried to stop the gunman. here is what they said. >> he was a great individual, very respectful. he was one of heroes yesterday. >> it sounds like your friend, does it? >> absolutely. i had no doubt that he lost his life trying to save other people. that's who he was.
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>> tell me a memory about denny. i know you were making your plans and you were going to go target shooting. tell me your special memory. he was one of your first friends and you were before close for four years. >> my favorite memory last year on my birthday. he was one of the only people that got me a birthday presient which made me feel very special. he's into aviation and stuff. he was controlling it over the pond and just doing some really cool tricks with it. we were ausjust all laughing an having a great time. >> that's incredible. it is very special that he did that on your birthday which says a lot about who he was. >> bianca, we have been trying to understand more about him and
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to die and lose such promise, he said he's been working at the soopers market since 2018. he appears to reference the pandemic with the photo on his page. it says i can't stay home, i am a grocery store worker. tell me about his job. how dedicated he was? >> he was really passionate. he had work ethics like no one i have met. he just really did what he could and had no complaints. >> what were his dreams bianca? >> he wanted to be a pilot.
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when you think back of all the times you had together, is there anything you wish you could have told him that you could not? >> i wish that he didn't try to charge at the gunman. i knew that's part of who he is but i feel like he would still be here with us today if he had not done that. >> he was a hero and he saved so many others. >> yeah. >> lucky to know him. i am so sorry for your loss of your dear friend and his future. >> thank you for sharing him with us. >> thank you for having me. >> next, new video shows how capitol hill police officer officer sick any was attacked. he died the next day.
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officer sicknick died. the moment before and after he was hit with the chemical spray. you can see one of the two men accused of assaulting officer sicknick standing in the crowd. cater is seen raising can and shoots the chemical in officer sicknick's direction. you can see officer sicknick suddenly turned away and started to move away from the crowd. prosecut prosecutors released these pictures of the officer hunching over. the medical examiner has not released the cause of his death and the role the chemical play is still in question. it is possible that khater and
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tanios are only charged with assault now but could eventually be charged with murder. >> if that chemical relates to his death, yes, we have causation and a link. yes, that's a murder case. the proud boys and oath keepers in advance of january 6th is being exposed by federal prosecutors. a new court filing lays out the facebook messages from leader ke k kelly megs, saying he orchestrated the attack with the proud boys. in one message, megs had been communicating with the leader. we'll march with them for a while and he'll help the proud boys come in front of them and
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we'll come in behind antifa and beat the hell out of them. >> this is powerful indication and an agreement between the two groups on things like tactics and positioning. >> reporter: in a facebook message two weeks before the insurrection, prosecutors say megs plan for 50 to 150 oath keepers to travel to washington and then wrote "plus, we made contact with pb and they always have a big group." three days later on christmas, megs lay out the gears. >> jessica, officer sicknick and these images we are seeing of him being attacked is awful. where does the investigation of his death stands? >> the key is cause of death. that's primary question right n now. whether that chemical spray from
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khater that we have seen whether that directly caused officer sicknick's death. we got a glimpse of what prosecutors are working with. they presented a number of videos from the attack. presumably they're also coming through hours of videos documenting this chemical attack. we have not gotten our hands-on that video but we are working on it. >> thank you very much. >> next mitch mcconnell accusing democrats of a power grab as they raise to stop republicans passing measures for restricted voting. can democrats the stop these measures? >> patrol releasing some migrants without knowing of their court dates, yjust lettin them go. why?
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>> instead of what you should be doing when you lose democracy is attempting to win those votes in the next election, republicans are trying to disenfranchise those vovoting. shame on them. >> the majority controls by the president's party to harass and intimidate the other side. that's what you ought to be ashamed about. >> the federal elections election, schumer is singling out the state of georgia, the next few days are the most r reprehensible of all.
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>> as fights over new restrictions. the republican position is boiling down to key targets. limiting drop boxes by insisting they must be info formal locatis and at certain hours. essentially they're saying they want to have republican over site of the process. they want to pick the referees. mandating early voting days and here is the big one. increase the limit on absentee of voting by requiring proof of identity. anything just an extra barrier there. republicans say they just want to secure their elections from fraud. look at this. more than 1.3 million absentee ballots cast in georgia last november. six times as many in the previous presidential race. we know joe biden significantly out pace donald trump in all form of early voting.
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opponents say this is what it is really about. attacking that advantage. because if these restrictions had been in place and just 12,000 voters had been somehow dissuaded and had not taken part, if they are wiped out, donald trump could have won the state. erin. >> all right, thank you very much tom. let me ask you one other question though before you go and the other states, i know we are talking about georgia here. in other states whart are the ky issues there? >> 250 measures like this have been proposed in 43 states according to public policies. critics say these are largely s suppressing minorities. we have seen examples out in arizona and over here which is another state which is the presidential race flipped from red the blue.
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of course we are talking about georgia and florida here and down in pennsylvania. in michigan republicans introduced nearly 40 billions about voting rules. right in the cross hairs, you guessed it, new limits on drop boxes and absentee voting. >> incredible. just one day and giving everyone a sense of onslaught we are talking about. i do want to go to the congresswoman of georgia. i appreciate your time, when we look at the situation in georgia and senator schumer picked this out as the most crucial state. so all indications are they're going to be able to pass these voting restrictions by this time next week. how do you fight back? >> so erin, the people on the ground will remember who's
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standing up for their rights and ability. now they want to change the rules. we know federal law takes precedent over state law. we saw republican leader introduced a resolution to try to encourage members of congress to not move forward with hr-1 and sr-1 which would stop all voting tactics happening right now in georgia. i voted for hr-1 written by congressman john lewis and this is part of his legacy. all of the people who were standing there and saying they stuck with congressman lewis and applauding him for his life's but now they want to erode everything he's fighting for. we have to make sure hr-1 gets through the united states senate. >> you want as many people to vote, that's the beyeentire goa right?
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but then they say well an absentee ballot, you are not going to see the person in person, what's wrong with requiring some sort of identification. they say it could be a utility bill or a license for those don't have that or something else. can you explain why that's an unreasonable thing to do? >> so erin, first of all, there is already signature matches. nobody is voting ing absentee a not being verified who they are. the challenge is to require that you have a picture of your photo id or send in a copy of it. we know it is going to disfranchise people. they have a signature match and they can submit their votes by mail and it can be verified. what we don't have evidence is voter fraud but we do have clear everyday right now of them
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trying to suppress the right to vote the people. stacey abrams, i know you work closely with her. she spoke at an event today with former president bill clinton, supporting the 60-vote threshold regarding election loss. here is what she said. >> if we don't solve the democracy crisis, the rest of it is irrelevant. it is a moral imperative that we did not allow a procedural rule to destroy the durable democracy the world has known. >> she makes the case there i do understand that this point has been very clear. he did not support getting rid of the filibuster entirely. we have learned that he told senate democrats on a call this week that they got to do it and pressure republicans to get this passed as oppose to forget republicans, let's get rid of the filibuster.
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what do you say to president biden about this? >> people in the state of georgia are not looking at procedural rules in the senate. they sent a majority of democrats to the united states senate, to the house and they elected a democratic president and they want us to work for them. it should not matter where you live in this country that if you have access to the ballot. it should be simplified across the board and that's why i am enco encouraging us to make sure whatever we need to do that hr-1 and sr-1 gets passed and signed. >> congresswoman williams, i appreciate your time. the white house allowing cameras into the shelter of migrant children today wh. what we saw is vastly different than our reporters. team biden is putting together a
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just in, the biden administration just released the number of migrants. we have the number, it is stunningly large. more than 16,000 children are in government's custody. it comes as president biden has tasked vice president kamala harris with leading efforts of central american country to stop a dramatic surge of immigrant children border. ed lavandera is out front. >> reporter: sheriff martinez is taking us to the edge of the rio grande in del rio, texas. to a spot that's becoming a landing point for several thousand migrants in recent
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weeks. one of his deputies apprehended a family from venezuela. when he looks across the river to the mexican side, they spot another family crossing. we noticed two men guiding the family through the safest part of the river. the current here can be deadly. a young girl being carried on the man's shoulder. one tells me they're also from venezuela as the migrant reaching the shore. after that, the two men turned around and splashed through the river back to mexico. >> it is clear what will happen to these migrants but most family are being allowed to waive immigration cases in the united states. >> it hits you and you feel for them. >> reporter: sheriff martinez says frustration is growing over scenes like this unfo.
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>> we don't know what the plan is, the policy changed but they have no plan in place to implement that plan. this is what we are seeing. people are going to continue to come in mass if you numbers. people are going to die. something had to be done. >> reporter: a fisherman -- a democrat says his small town of 36,000 people does not have the resources to deal with the surge of migrants. >> where is the plan of action?
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i believe the things they are doing now is banned. >> reporter: group's director says they seen about 100 migrants a day. their family crossed into the u.s. earlier this week. he said he escaped haiti four years ago after his brother was murdered because he could not pay the ransom. he said he and his family traveled to south and central america for four years to get here. he says reaching the u.s. made him cry tears of joy. >> i have been looking for this country for a long time. >> reporter: and erin, this afternoon federal government officials allowed reporters to tour one of the health and human
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ser service facilities where unaccompanied minors being kept. there are thousands of migrants being kept in border patrol and by all accounts not ideal for these migrants and much of the work and pressure that's being put on not just local ordinance or organization here but a lot of charity groups up and down the border who are doing the brunt of the work in caring for these migrants once they are legally released as they await their immigration process here in the united states. we talked to a lot of these people along the border, they're saying they're the ones caring for these people once they are released. >> ed, thank you. next, another stunning number. $3 trillion. it is president biden's next big
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the white house preparing a sweeping $3 trillion job in infrastructure plan. you heard me right, that's on top of $1.9 trillion covid relief bill that's passed. that's about biden is set to be briefed by his team on the proposal this week and they're going to split it into two parts, we understand, one on infrastructure and clean energy, the other on other domestic issues including universal prek and significant spending on things like child care. "out "outfront" now, jennifer gr grandholm and appreciate your time. we don't know all the details about the plan but in your realm of energy, it will spend heavily on clean energy. presidential historian michael beschloss today said president biden may be close to fdr and lbj and said quote in terms of
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transforming the country in important ways in a short time. do you see this plan, secretary, along with covid relief as rivaling those of fdr and lbj? >> i do. i mean, we have to see what it actually looks like, but what does the country need? we are coming out of this massive problem, this huge pandemic and the relief bill, the rescue bill that we just saw provides -- obviously, as you know and covered has over 76% of americans that support it and this infrastructure package, which is really a recovery package, so your rescue and recovery is going to be investing in the things we need, which will create jobs. in my role as energy secretary of example, who can doubt we need to invest in our transmission grid? we need a resilient grid and need to make sure it's able to with stand weather events and add capacity for clean energy to the grid if we want to electrify our transportation system and
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get electric vehicles out. we got to do so much in addition to roads and bridges and all of that. that usually has e nor enormous bipartisan support. he does want to transform the country to the positive. >> secretary, you talk about that usually has bipartisan support. infrastructure never has in reality where its has obama attached, trump attached, we shall see from biden. on that front, mitch mcconnell today said he has only spoken to president biden once. once since he became president and that conversation was about berma and no republican support for the last $2 trillion bill that the president wanted to get through congress. can you get another $3 trillion in spending if mcconnell and biden are not talking? >> well, i'm certain they will be. they are old colleagues. they've known each other for a very long time. this is a different era in terms of biden's restllationships wit
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the senate, obviously. president biden is committed to doing this, to making sure we make the critical investments we have lacked for so long. we're falling behind our economic competitors. some of our airports are embar embarrassing, not to mention roads including local roads. come on, we've got to do this and one way or the other he's going to do it and that is exactly what is needed. by the way, when i say bipartisan support, i'm talking about folks out there. i mean, in michigan and you know one -- >> one way or the other -- >> fixing the dang road. >> they will do reconciliation if they need to, republicans be darned. >> that's not the preferred way. we'd love to get ten senators to come on board the republican side and support what their constituents want but one way or the other, i hope they push it through because that's what the countries need. >> there is the section you're dealing with but other things, child care, universal prek and
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that comes today being equal payday. ist something you've spent a lot of time thinking about over your career. president biden had an event at the white house about it and it comes as covid has taken a massive toll on women in the work force. in january, 270,000 women left the work force. only 71,000 men. now, this isn't just going to reverse itself. right? many women do not want to return to the way things were. equal pay is crucial. but this that we're seeing in the labor market right now seems to be way bigger than even that, doesn't it? >> yeah, it totally is. i mean, we are seeing a reversal of 3 decades of progress for women. women -- i mean, you know, women make 82 cents on the dollar that men make. today is the day that women can start earning equally on average. it's just -- that's not right but the fact that 4.2 million women have fallen out of the work force entirely is really a problem but one of the things from the covid relief package that we just talked about that
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is awesome is for family. of course, women usually are the primary caregivers. one of the things that is so critical is they increased the child tax credit and they are allowing people to take it in monthly increments so you don't have to wait until april to file your tax returns to get that child tax credit. so they increase it. so if you have two kids under 7 and you qualify, that is $600 a month that you'll be getting from july to december. that for many women, for kids who are in poverty, 66 million of them, that is a game changer and that's something that i think this country should consider on a permanent basis, basically. like other countries are doing, let's support families so women can make the choices to stay home or go to work but right now many feel like they simply don't have a choice. >> appreciate your time. thank you so much. >> you bet. good to see you. next, a ship nearly the size
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tonight, standstill. one of the most important shipping lanes in the world came to a halt. the ever given the name was on route to water dam when it got stuck. it's 1,312 feet long nearly as long as the empire state building and massive. i was on assignment and once traveled through the canal on another massive oil tanker. being on a ship that size makes the canal feel very narrow. okay. here is how it works. ships wait days to enter the canal, then they travel through basically in a procession, one way. so narrow. this is what it looks like from the deck, blinding white sand on either side, desert and this impossibly small ribbon of blue. once through the narrow path,
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ships essentially park in the middle of the canal, it wider called the bitters and get the green light to continue one way to continue. the impact of ever given's grounding is huge because nearly a quarter of what goes through that canal is oil. oil and petroleum products. oil prices have risen more than 5% on the news as the ship is still stuck. thanks for joining us. anderson starts now. good evening tonight the grieving in boulder, colorado, the investigations and push for change. in short, everything that comes in the aftermath of a mass shooting in america which today included a hero's tribute for eric talley. hundreds lining the streets as a hurst took the body from a coroner's office to a funeral home and flocked to the officer's former patrol vehicle bringing flowers, wreaths and cards turning it into a makeshift shrine. he was first on the scene monday, lost his life trying to save others. said one mourner today,
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