seconds of arriving. the suspect fired at the officer and killing officer talley and he kept firing and engaging with these officers until he was arrested. no one else was shot and killed as the officers took on those fire. >> thank you, kyung lai, i am pamela brown, i will be back tomorrow on my show. erin burnett with "outfront" starts right now. jim crow of the 21st century. can the doj do anything to stop the law born from trump's lies. the survivor of the super market speaks out. she works at the super market, whether she can ever go back to work there. the former cdc director tells

st. sanjay gupta, he tells us that covid-19 derived from the lab in china. president biden saying his judge is looking into the new georgia law. the law that's a direct result of donald trump's assault on american democracy. >> it is an atrocityatrocity. the idea, it had nothing to do with fairness or decency. they passed a law saying you can't provide water for people standing in line while they're waiting to vote? you don't need anything else to know this is nothing but punitive and designed from keeping people from voting. >> brian kemp defends the bill saying it expands it.

surrounded by six-white men was good optics. look behind him, it is a calloway plantation where more than 100 black people have been enslaved. the truth is this law is a direct results of trump's big lie that the election was stolen and rigged. it takes up some of trump's favorite lie. take for example limiting the use of ballot drop boxes. this is something that trump repeatedly railed against. >> these drop boxes are fraudulent. unmanned drop boxes that were blatantly illegal.

>> georgia officials said all the drop box were mistaken. i mean just to understand this, this was a video tweeted by georgia's governor. he does not look too concerned of ballot boxes in this video. he's using one to cast his own ballot and showing that you can't move it because it is locked down. it is under 24 hours surveillance and all those things. these buildings are going of fewer of those. the new georgia law allows unlimited challenges for eligibility. unlimited challenges. let's take it on this point. georgia itself counted its ballots three times because of trump because he keeps on saying it is rigged and all these crazy things that's not true. should georgia be counting? look, we all saw what happened

when after those recounts and georgia certified its results and trump kept trying to get them to overturn and undo it because of dead voters. >> so dead people voted and i think the number is close to 5,000 people. >> the actual number was two. two people that were dead that voted. and so that's wrong. >> that was brad raffensperger. >> just to be clear there were two dead georgians voted. it was not 5,000. they had an opportunity if they wanted to have a conversation to work on a bill that focused on improving voting.

maybe on addressing things learned during the pandemic to expand access while ensuring voters verification. this is all worthy of discussion. that's not what the bill is focused on. president biden is right about this. they supported a bill that makes it illegal to hand out food or water to people who are standing in line to vote. put those words with those image. >> they're giving water out to people waiting hours in line to vote illegally. a lot of voters had to wait for hours. that's not okay. that's not okay to do that. that's just the evidence here of a law that was born of trump's lie. it is incredibly ironic on the first day that it is becoming law in georgia. one of the biggest plie faced with consequences. some of its anchors repeated

lies of dominion machines being hacked by liberals and including dictatorship involvement and all of that and then there is trump's attorney sidney powell, she's facing multiple lawsuits including one from dominion and now she's trying to defend it. the horrible part about all of this is they did accepted those. the there are 44 other states now that are waiting in the wing. 250 bills which would restrict voting rights. kaitlan collins is live at the white house. how far will president biden go

to try to stop this? >> reporter: of course you heard him railing against it earlier and saying this is jim crow and the 21st century. before he left the white house to go to delaware, we asked him again about it and he believes it is an atrocity. the fact that you can't giver o give out water and it is a crime to give out water. it is punitive and it is not based on election integrity as the republicans of georgia have framed it. he's saying look how small that is. that's something they felt they should encollude it. it is not about ballot boxes. it is something as small as that. the question of what he could do and power limited to a potential degree. he did tell reporters the justice department is looking into how they can safe guard voters voters' rights in georgia. it is not clear they can do anything. the other aspect that is more

likely is getting legislation passed and that's unlikely. the voting rights bills made it into the house and they're going to go before the senate. chuck schumer will bring them to the senate floor, they face a big uphill batter. the white house is well aware of that even though you saw president biden urged congress to pass those laws earlier today. biden needs republicans on board if they're going to get something like that passed unless something changes with the filibuster. we talked last night of how they're moving closer and closer to being favor of eliminating the filibuster. he gives a dose of reality tonight saying that we do not have the vote to change filibuster. if you learn anything, you don't move until you have the vote to do something. there are those moderate democrats who are not in favor of changing it. that's really going to be a big factor to whether or not they're ultimately successful and actually passing some voting

rights laws here in capitol hill in washington. >> thank you very much kaitlan. i want to go now to the voting rights attorney suing georgia. i appreciate your time tonight, mark, governor kemp says tonight "this is an election bill and it will allow georgia to have secure and assessable fair elections." the georgia secretary of state brad raffensperger speaks out. >> you laid it quite well in your introduction. i want to add two facts. the first is not only did it come from the big lie that donald trump told but it also

followed the election of the first lack u.s. senator from georgia, reverend warnock. so this is both a general efforts to suppress the vote overall and it is focused on black voters and young voters. that's why we brought the lawsuit on behalf of new georgia's project and black votes matter. >> it is not just georgia doing this. all these bills coming out post the election and the fall's premise that there was fraud in it. 44 other states are trying to implement new implementing laws as well. i know you are looking at all of them. is georgia the worse case or are there others that are worse? >> so look it is a terrible competition that we see right now among republican

legislatures to see who can pass the most grotesque voting law, who's an authoritarian and does not support democracy, the pr former president. they cut back on early voting and mailing voting and just for the heck of it cut an hour off election date itself. we are going to see it in state after state. >> so one thing many republicans are pointing to is expanded in-person weekend voting. the option of two days on sunday voe voting. here is what he said to me about the georgia bill. >> there are parts o f this bill that are being oversold.

the voter id requirements getting rid of the signature and putting in driver's licenses and social security numbers. that's what democratic states used. there is a reasonable conversation to be had if you look at what a lot of democratic states have already done on verification? >> look, erin, i am the lawyer pursuit to georgia over there that led to donald trump's claim that was -- me and brian kemp together. it was crazy thing. georgia settled that case because their previous method of verification was rejecting. we entered that settlement and what we saw was dramatic decreases and erroneous

rejections. there were still some people's ballots wrongly rejected and most importantly showed that there was no fraud. yes, are there states using a l alternative method? yes. they're doing this because they're trying to stop people from voting and stop people from having their ballots counted and particularly black votes. >> thank you, marc, i appreciate your time. i want to go to van jones, anchor of "inside politics." how controversial do you believe this bill is? >> when they change the law, we follow the rules. one, they changed the rules.

black, electoral success is inherently suspect. just like an african-american, driving through a neighborhood, we are going to pull you over because how in the heck are you this successful? our success is being punished and all the groups that are suing are going to triple down on the organizing. the idea that this is being done because they're trying to help more african-americans vote is ludi ludicrous. you are going criminalize by bringing water to people. >> abby, president biden says the justice department is going to look at this. what can they do, you know, especially when biden is on defense of getting rid of the filibuster which is allowed how the voting rights go through. what can they really do? >> i think the filibuster really looms large overall of this

because it seems clear that nothing related to voting can move through the senate unless the threshold is lower. even in the throeseshold is low there are democratic senator who is are not on board of the bills that democrats are talking about. that's a real hurdle for democrats when they're talking about putting into place and federal legislation that's like a blanket over the country and the foundation of how voters should operate. there is voting rights act which still as we sit here today is still gutted and still needs to be fixed by congress and has not been fixed in many years. that also is something that requires bipartisan cooperation. at the moment it seems like not a single republican is interested in touching the issue of voting in the senate because it is a hot topic and a red line for republican based voters if unless that problem can't be fixed. i don't see how that can be

moved forward. >> savannah, i want to show you the votes from last night. again, georgia governor kemp signing the bill and surrounded by six white men in suits. it was a specific plantation. that was the photo that kemp put out of signing this bill. we also see another photo from georgia, this is -- she's charged with two misdemeanor. how significant are these two images? >> they tell the whole story. lockdown the process. our attempted to participate

being criminalized, she's knocking on the doorm. she's not threatening anybody. she's not even doing a sit-in. she's literally knocking on the door in a low-level capitol police told her not to knock on the door again and they criminalize her in participating the process. to go after that is criminalizing our ability to participate in the process. >> president trump goes on fox news continuing to spread a lie. here is what he said last night of the january 6th insurrection. >> it was zero threat right from the start. it was zero threat. look. they went in and they should not have done it. some of them and hugging and

kissing the police and the guards. >> of course this is what happened. >> the mob attacked officers and they died. the president of the united states characterizing it as hugging and kissing the police. what is his goal here, abby? >> this is a person who has spent years and years trying to tell people not to believe what they see and hear with their own eyes and instead believe the lies he's telling them and he's aided and abetted by fox which gives him that platform does not push back and amplifies it and the goal is to lie to people. what's happening and i think that he's being helped by many republican members of congress. people like senator ron johnson who similarly talks about how he

was not afraid of these capitol rioters and he would have been afraid of black lives matter protesters. these are things whitewashing what happens on january 6th. it is dangerous. it needs to be preserved because it would be a tragedy if something like that would happen again. there you have the former president pretending like it never happened at all. >> thank you very much, abby and van. >> lawmakers now demanding former trump officials hand over the documents from the days leading up to the insurrection. i am going to talk to the survivor from the boulder mass shooting. she was working at the store and she lost friends and co-workers. will she ever be able to work there again. biden responding to a cnn's

exclusive. re robert redfield, he told sanjay that he believes the coronavirus derives from the lab in wuhan, china.

prosecutors presented these photos in their attempt to prove that meggs and her husband is still being held in jail. they took a class on how to attack people. she rebutted that claim. >> over and in the capitol. >> donovan has been released. he's the four members of the ten oath keepers charged in the federal case. the judge defending his decision saying liberty is the norm for pretrial. another federal judge in

pennsylvania -- >> and those who cheered on the violence or entered the capitol after others cleared the way. >> so jessica, the court hearing you are reporting on, lawmakers demanding documents from former trump's employees, do you know what they are looking for? >> this is congress taking over here. they want documents of what trump house knew about the plan and all communications before january 6th, anything that discussing the counting of the electoral college votes and any discussion of potential protest or the possible violence and they want communications after january 6th and they're demanding a number of documents

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30 seconds, that's how quickly officer eric talley able to lead a team into the king soopers store. no one else was shot after

talley confronted the suspect and lost his life. truly was a hero. all these lives he saved. comes with the boulder district attorney announced more charges will be filed. sh sh sh sh sh shimon is live with us. >> reporter: the gunman, the district attorney says fired at those officers. the suspected gunman here is going to likely face additional murder charges. he made charges in connection with some of the victims inside, the people inside shopping, the store workers, those people also face a threat and he could face charges in connection with that thread, erin. >> thank you shimon prokupecz.

>> i want to go to emily, i am so sorry for what you went through and describe what you did see that day. >> thank you, god, he was sitting in front of the store on a break. we heard this loud popping sound and we looked at each other and grabbed each other and i don't think it is fireworks. we saw a gentleman running in the middle of the street to get away and he got shot. another time. when he fell the gunman shot him four or five times in the back while he was on the ground.

he looks like ah middle age guy with a dad-bod. she looked at me and said "what do we do?" we looked at each other and we ran. we were met with a bunch of employees running in the back. everyone was scrambled out and it was muddy and slippery and everyone ran around on the other side of the shopping center to the whole foods and we all kind of stayed up there a little bit. >> emily, it is across the street where you live, you saw someone died and when they went down, shoot them multiple times from the back. it is traumatic. i truly can't imagine it and what you must see when you shut your eyes. when you open them, you live

across the street and you look at the store, how are you managing this? >> it is rough, my view out the window is this parking lot and the shopping center. being able to walk over the memorial multiple times a day has really helped me and seeing all the flowers and the love and support has been really great. >> i know that three of the victims were year co-workers. denney stong, teri leicher and rikki olds. what's your memory of denny?

>> every time you pass him, he would go "whoo, are we having fun yet?" he's a high-prspirited kid and passionate and always there to listen and be there for you. always trying to make a joke whether it is funny or not. there is one day he saved a mouse they found in the store and took it to the park far away. he was so proud and showing it off to everybody. >> i know you were so fond of him. rikki olds, you said she was always so happy. she looks that way in this picture. tell me about her.

she was just a goofy and fun, and loving person, she got a brand new tattoo the other day that she's so proud of. she was really great and definitely did not deserve any of this. >> emily, i know it is hard for you to think about it at this point. >> what do you do now? do you think you will return to work after it opens? >> i put my two weeks in. april 2nd is my last day. there is a part of me that does not want to leave but there is a part of me that never want to go

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has been no formal evidence to support the theory from the cdc. >> if i were to guess this virus started transmitting some where in wuhan. i am allowed to have opinions. i am of the point of view that i still think the most likely ideology of this pathogen in wuhan was from a laboratory escaped. other people don't believe that. that's fine. science will eventually figured it out. it is not unusual respiratory pathogen working on and affecting lab workers. it is my opinion. i am a virilogist. i do not believe this somehow came from a bat to a human and that moment in time the virus came to the human and became the

most infec tious virus. >> it is incredible that he's coming out to say it. chinese media is pushing a multiple origin theory, came from a lot of places. it is amazing more than a year we still don't know the definitive answer of the origin of this virus. more than 2.75 million people dead worldwide. we need an answer. josh rogan done extensive reporting of the virus. he's the author of "the battle." watching that clip anyone can understand how significant it is for the former cdc chief to say this. i have spent my life doing this. the theory out there is bs,

could not have been more clear. the theory that it came from a bat and the most infectious things we have seen. boom. >> it changes the whole narrative. frankly i think we have to take what he said seriously. robert redfield was there, he was the head of the cdc. he's a trained virilologist. he's doing this because this is what he believes what happened. it is clear in the interview, he's been wanting to say it for a long time but he was waiting for the trump administration to leave. that's why with the problem with the lab accident theory it was associated with donald trump and discredited. now we have the biden

administration confirming the trump administration information and we have robert redfield saying he's pretty sure and based on his professional analysis that the lab theories is the most likely theory. >> that's what it does in wuhan and where it comes from. that alone, that would be the most likely theory but look at everything and see. and you report the cable says during interactions with scientists, they noted a new lab had a series of shortage of trained technicians to operate this high-containment

laboratory. they're not doing it with the protocol they should. this is dangerous. boom, a virus comes out of wuhan that's coronavirus. redfield seems to be backing up what you are errreporting on. >> yes, for years people were concerned about this lab. we should be clear, we don't know how the virus originated. we need more investigations of all possible theories. what redfield theory is saying this lab terry is the one that needs more investigation. he's calling out the w.h.o.'s investigation which concluded for some odd reasons that they don't want to look for that and they don't want the lab reason involved.

he's calling the chinese administration and what they were hiding of doing. so you know you can say oh well there is no firm proof of the lab accident there which is true as far as it goes but there is no proof or evidence of the other theories either. we have to take trump out of it and politicize the issue and get to the bottom of this so we can prevent the next pandemic. >> this pandemic and what happened and how china handled it and their economy is surging and ours can end up one of the most important. thank you, and don't miss sanjay's special report. it is sunday night at 9 c:00. that interview and so much more. biden betting that republicans will support his plan. is that how john kasich sees it?

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come. >> "outfront" now former republican governor of ohio john kasich a former congressman and ran for president. so governor, you know, you called biden a quote unifier and endorsed his candidacy at democratic convention. it's a bad situation in washington but he's made a decision that he's going to move ahead and use reckonciliation ad if he can do it without them, he'll do it. do you think it smart of him to do it without republicans politically? >> no, i don't think it smart at all. by the way, the republicans went in to see him at the white house. it was the first meeting he said he had. >> yeah. >> he was at one point 9 trillion. they came in at 600 billion and they said they had a good meeting and biden's staff came out and said that meeting didn't mean anything. we're not changing anything. there was no serious negotiation on the part of administration, and i'm not sure how serious the republicans were. but the fact is they passed a

$1.9 trillion package without one single republican. now, if you're so great at bipartisanship, you can't get one republican to vote with you? so now they're saying, you know, either you get on our train or we're just going to ignore you. >> yeah. >> come on. erin, we know that doesn't make any sense. i was a governor. i had difficult times passing things. i was a congressman and one that negotiated the budget agreement in '97 that got us to a balanced budget. it not my way or the highway. it about being patient. it about appealing to people's conscience and bringing them along and unlocking them when they get stock. okay -- >> so, yeah, no, i get that. look. i also get how people have acted on both sides of washington and biden said he wouldn't do that. his logic here is he is actually doing what republicans want, republican voters. that the covid relief bill was popular and direct payments and

popular among republicans. he's trying to thread this needle of republicans like what i'm doing. it just republican legislatures that don't. here is how he put it. >> i would like republican elected republican support but what i know i have now is i have electoral support from republican voters, republican voters. agree with what i'm doing. i've not been able to unite the d congress but i'm uniting the country. >> they still have the direct payments. the new billion is $3 trillion. it doesn't have direct payments. he says it's basically going to hurt elected republicans on election day. is that the right gamble? >> we're a long way to go but edmond burke said i owe you my judgment. as a politician, we talk about

courage. you're going to use your judgement. let me ask you the question, you think about the money being spent. 1. trillion now and the money spent when trump was president where by the way the democrats filibustered when they didn't like the fact trump was trying to pass that stuff. now we're going to have another two, three, $4 trillion. let me ask you a question, what are your kids going to have to pay? we can't -- we haven't repealed the law of gravity. they're spending money like there is no tomorrow. so look, i understand what joe -- i endorsed the guy, okay? ton his tone has been good. they can do a much better job of reaching out to republicans and be careful about the spending they're doing because we have not repealed the laws of gravity. >> wow. >> i wish him the best and help him however i can but at the end of the day, i'll call them like i see them. they both have movement that has to be done in order to make progress down there. thanks, erin. >> appreciate your time. i appreciate your time. thank you very much.

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a day of mourning and rem remembrance of two victims killed in the spa shootings. she treated customers like friends. she died days shy of her 50th birthday. she worked hard to save money for her retirement, retirement that will never come. >> i love her and i just want to hold her and maybe give her a hug. >> do we really have to quarantine ourselves to avoid being gunned down in the grocery store, our schools, our businesses, our places of worship? must or flags always fly half

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