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>> good to have you back. >> thank you. i was watching today and i kept thinking the last trial i paid this much attention and this much interest televised, i think was o.j., this one that had this big video element was rodney king, right? it all happened in our lifetime. that was the first big one with video. >> the first verdict the reason it was so upsetting was that it seems to obvious on its phase. the justice system saw it the other way. >> that's where i am going. i am glad you said it. i wonder what happens here. you only need one juror. >> this is about george floyd's body. >> that's what they are presenting now. i listen to the defense. and them talking about addiction and opioid.
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you think the opioid crisis and how much we have been saying people need empathy and health and not judgment and stigma. the defense, it felt something felt wrong about it. you think over the course of the pandemic and how people had been dealing with these problems and we have been saying this. since the crack epidemic. we did not give the people the empathy they needed and the help they needed. this time with opioid and heroine we are trying to make a commitment to help them and not shun them. that is their defense. think of college kids out drinking, they had some sort of altercations or a run-in with the police officer and they had been drinking. is that a death sentence? because they have alcohol in their body? >> depends on what color they are and where they are. >> but it should not be a death sentence.
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because somebody has a substance in their body. if it wasn't life threatening. they were not carrying a gun or threatening to kill anybody or already handcuffed on the streets. it shouldn't mean a death sentence. think about your loved one if they may have an issue with drugs or out drinking and have a run in with police officers. does that mean they are in that situation that's it is okay for an officer to put their knee on your loved one's neck for that long. why do people make excuses for that. he had fet fentanyl, he had thi. they deal with people in bad situations and resisting arrests even if you want to believe he
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did and i have never seen good evidence of it in the void owe. people judge as they want. it is still not supposed to be a death sentence. the biggest factor in this trial that i think will be difficult for defense to overwhelm. >> the time. >> now is 9 minutes and 29 seconds. of multiple officers who have plenty of conversation. one officer says this is a long time. he had time to make a decision. you smack me, i got an instant moment, what do i do? that's one judgment. i have 9 minutes and 29 seconds to decide what i am going to do to you. i have a lot of times to make the correct choices.
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selling author as my boy, d. lemon. >> it is what happened to george floyd is the inspiration for this book. thank you, i will talk to you. >> number one because people need it. >> yes! >> you did the right thing at the right time. i love you for it. on with the show! >> thank you, sir, i love you! this is "cnn tonight." >> can i have a few minutes of your time? can i have a few minutes of your undivided attention here? i know your time is precious. it's valuable. if i can have ten minutes of it. ten minutes is a long time to devote to me. >> you heard that number over
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and over again, 8 minutes and 46 seconds. that was stunning when we first saw it and when we heard it. that's a long time. you heard that's how long a white police officer kneeled on the neck of george floyd's. as he begged for his life. we learned it was much longer than that. he stayed on george floyd's neck for 9 minutes and 29 seconds. i just want to put something on the screen for you as i am doing this. please, there it is. i am going to run the clock in the screen for 9 minutes and 29 seconds. it is an excruciating long time. much longer than you think. it goes on and on and i am going to go on with the show. i want you to think of the time that someone's knee is on your neck and stopping you from breathing. even that horrific number does not begin to tell you what
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happens to george floyd, how he struggles to get air in his lungs and how he told the officers more than 20 times, i can't breathe, i can't breathe. how he cried out in pain and begged for his mother and how the crowd pleaded with police to stop and calling out how long are you going to hold him down? derek chauvin kept his knee on his neck. 9 minutes and 29 seconds. all this is happening on an minneapolis street in broad daylight and caught in camera. this is one minute now. the whole video was played today in court. as the trial began. charged unintentional second degree murder. third degree murder. and manslaughter. this is just a portion of that video shown to the jurors today, some of them seen for the first time, difficult to watch. but it is just a small part of
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what happened to george floyd in the street on may 25th last year. arrested for allegedly using a counter fit bill as a convenience store. >> what do you want? >> i could not breathe. please, i can't breathe. [ bleep ]. >> i can't move. >> mama. i can't. >> i can't. >> you can't win >> your knee. my neck. >> you didn't listen. i am through. my stomach hurts. everything hurts. my neck hurts. water or something. please. please.
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i can't breathe officer. they're going to kill me. >> his nose is bleeding. look at his nose. you got your feet right on his neck. >> i can't breathe. >> he's a tough guy. >> he ain't doing anything. >> how long y'all got to hold him down? i saw it for the first time in months since the last summer. every time is like the first lime. i don't know about you,
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all i kept saying is okay, it is enough. even though you know what happens in the end. as you watch the video, okay, okay, okay, you can take it off his neck now. let the man breathe. it is so hard to watch that video. but, we just can't look away from it. that's not justice. that's not deescalation. that's not what police officers are supposed to do. you know that. not when this man, not when george floyd is dying in the streets with the police officer's knee on his neck for 9 minutes and 29 seconds while george floyd was fighting for every breath. >> you will learn what happened during that trial. 9:29. the most important numbers in this trial. what happened in 9 minutes and 29 seconds when mr. chauvin was
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putting excessive force on mr. floyd's neck. >> derek chauvin kept his knees for 4 minutes and 25 seconds. as floyd cried out for help. he kept his knee on floyd's neck for another 50 seconds as he suffers seizures and another 3 minutes and 51 seconds even though he was non-responsive. 9 minutes, 29 seconds. prosecuting attorney jerry blackwell. telling the jurors believe your eyes. >> i can tell you that you can believe your eyes that it is a homicide, it is murder. you can believe your eyes. >> telling jurors derek chauvin betrayed his badge.
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>> you will learn on may 25th, of 2020, mr. derek chauvin betrayed his badge when used excessive and unreasonable force upon the body of mr. george floyd. that he put his knee on his neck and his back, grinding and crushing him until the very breath, no, ladies and gentlemen, until the very life was squeezed out of him. you will learn that he was well aware that mr. floyd was unarmed and mr. floyd had not threaten anyone. mr. floyd was in handcuffs and in the control of police. he was defenseless. >> telling jurors a dispatcher was so disturbed by what happened that she called the
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police on the police. >> you will learn that there was a dispatcher, her name was genna scurry. she's going to come and talk to you also. there was a fixed police officer camera that was screened on this particular scene. she could see what was going on. you will see what she saw was so unusual that for her so undisturbing -- sorry, so disturbing that she did something she had never done. she called the police on the police, a 911 dispatcher. she called sergeant david blinker who's going to come to testify. she called him to report what she saw because it was just that disturbing. she saw a man literally lost his life and you will hear her testify. >> he played her phone call. to a sergeant saying
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call me a snitch if you want to. >> you can call me a snitch if you want to but we have the camera on -- oh, 320 over at whole foods. they got something in the back of the squad and all of them sat on this man. i don't know if they needed you or not. they have not said anything to me. >> the dramatic moment when the 911 dispatcher took the stand to say she knew something was wrong. >> my instincts were telling me something is wrong. i don't know what but something was not right. >> that's a defense trying to blame the victim claiming george floyd died of drug use and coronary disease. >> the evidence will show that mr. floyd died of a cardiac arithmia.
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that occurred as a result of hyper tension. coronary disease. ingestion of fentanyl and meth. and adrenaline flowing through his body. all of which acted to further compromise and a already compromised heart. >> the fact that the county medical examiner autopsy listed floyd's death was law enforcement of restraint and neck compression and ruled it a homicide. defense attorney eric nelson tried to blame the crowd that gathered even though the people in that crowd were trying to get police to get off floyd's neck. even though derek chauvin stayed on his neck, stayed on his neck with the crowd yelling "let the man up."
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with him screaming "i can't breathe," 9 minutes, 29 seconds. that's how much time that was. >> there are cars stopping and people yelling. there is a growing crowd and officers perceive to be a threat. they're screaming at him. causing the officers to divert their attention to the threat that was growing in front of them. >> i thank you for your time. for those ten minutes you gave me your attention because that's about how long it has been since i started the open to this show. imagine that you are on the ground and your loved one on the
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ground for that long, already subdued by police. so the testimony is set to resume tomorrow. court was forced to adjourn when a technical glitch occurred. where family members were watching. the country the world is watching this trial just like we watched that horrible video of george floyd's last moment. the video brought millions and millions of people out demanded justice, black, brown, white, old, young, gay, straights and millions of americans who saw what happened to george floyd and ahmaud arbery and breonna taylor. and so many more. millions of americans demanding justice. >> president biden watching the trial closely, just like millions of us. it reminds me of another trial that everyone was on the edge of their seats watching, the trial of o.j. simpson, back in 1995.
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26 yore years later we're on edge of our seats we are on another trial putting america's racial divide in sharp focus. it is happening as the country is having a racial reckoning as we are having deep conversations about race and every part of american life. as a voting rights of people of color under assaults. protesters are calling out for justice. george floyd's brother, terence floyd's saying this. >> they always say trust the system, we got you. you'll receive justice. to me and my family, this is the time now. show us and prove to us that we are going to get justice. we deserve it. >> we'll talk to another of george floyd's brother, felonis. along with the family attorney. you will see the video again, 9 minutes and 26 seconds.
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association of black psychologist. again, thank you for paying attention. your undivided attention for ten minutes. i hope you will give it to me for the rest of the time we are on the air tonight. we have so much to talk about as a country, about unity and what we need to do in this situation and how we correct this problem. as hard as it is for all of us to watch that video, imagine what it is like for george floyd's family to see his last moment and to know that derek chauvin was on his neck for 9 minutes and 29 seconds. he was in the courtroom today. we'll talk to the family and the attorney benjamin crump. they are next. - [narrator] grubhub perks give you deals on all the food that makes you boogie.
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9 minutes and 29 seconds. that's how long george floyd's knee was on mr. floyd's neck. prosecutors is asking the jury to believe their eyes. calling their first three witnesses in the trial. while the defense tries to argue it's about more than what we see and hear on the video. joining us now is floyd's brother and attorney benjamin crump. good evening. thank you for joining us. it had to be excruciating to watch.
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the video of your brother's death. i hate to ask you, what was it like of the first day you have to relive this. i am sorry you had to. i am sorry i have to ask you that question but please talk to me about it. >> it was emotional day. sitting tl and watching my brother being tortured to death and screaming for my mom and telling about his kids. it was devastating. it was a tragedy that should not have happened. hopefully we'll get justice and so other families understand what's going on. a lot of families want us to have justice because they did not get justice. >> you know this video as powerful as it is, it is excruciating. the defense and they're saying drug use are responsible for his death. are you concerned they're trying to put george on trial instead of derek chauvin.
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>> that's the play book. what they have done to so many people of color. who were unjustified killed by police. they assassinate their character so it could be a distraction for the excessive use of force that they did and that's what they are doing here. we anticipated it and they did it. don, they went into a new level. not only they said oh, it was because of the trace amount of drugs in george floyd's system or the condition nobody knew of. today you heard them trying to blame the bystanders. the people saying get your knee off his neck. they were trying to say they were part of the reason the police kept his knees on his neck.
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the reason why chauvin kept his knee on floyd's death is because he lacks humanity. >> they claim that officer chauvin was doing exactly what he was trained to do. how do you respond to that? >> you know the state did a good job today in telegraphing their case. they say you are go toing hear the police chief himself, don, come in court and testify that was inappropriate. how often have we seen a police officer chief come and testify against one of their officers in a criminal trial? i don't believe i have ever seen it but that speaks to how strong this case is and when all of that evidence in the video and the chief testifying, we still can't take for granted that a police officer would be convicted of killing a black person and justifiably.
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this is referendum. if america is finally going give black people equality and justice guaranteed by the united states constitution. >> philonise, we heard today of the 911 dispatcher who saw it happening in realtime. and flagged it to the sergeant. she said "you can call me a snitch if you want," she ran up the chain, calling the police on the police. what was your reaction when you heard that, philonise? >> she was doing her job. when she seen things that didn't go on right, she went on and said "hey, let me call your sergeant because he should not have been doing that and there were four officers and they were killing someone. they came to help somebody but they were sworn into protect but they were killing people.
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that's sad, man. >> she said "i thought the camera was malfunctioned or frozen because he was just sitting there with his knee on his neck." >> many are viewing this as a test for the justice system here. your brother saying today if they want people to trust the system this is a chance to show it. do you agree? >> i totally agree with him. my brother is not on trial. america is on trial right now. chauvin is on trial. >> minneapolis and minnesota they'll have to get it right. we are tired of people being killed and slaughtered. i am not antipolice but there has been a lot of killings by police officers. not just in minneapolis but always across america. we have to get justice. if you can't get justice for this as a black man in america, what can you get justice for in america then?
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>> philonise, thank you. and ben, thank you. we'll be watching. you are welcome to come on any time. to discuss what's happening. >> well appreciated. compelling testimony in the first day of the trial. including an eyewitness. the first day of the chauvin's trial. the eye witness of an mma fighter says he was alarmed of what happened on the street that day.
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the ex-police officer portrayed his badge by squeezing the life out of george floyd. playing the full video. telling jurors quote it's homicide. you can believe your eyes, it is homicide. let's discuss this now with cedric alexander, gentleman, i am some glad to have you on. it was a tough day, especially watching that video and listening to some of the testimonies. >> bikaria, i am going to start with you. prosecutors began with the graphic video evidence of the death. ended with powerful testimony from an eyewitness. a mixed martial art fighter, here is what he said.
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>> the more you see floyd fade away slowly and like a fish in a bag, you see his eyes slowly pale out and rolling to the back of his eyes. >> bakari, he's talking about floyd slowly dying. the jury left with that in their mind. >> you can't look at a trial only one day. i know we'll be so invested. there will be moments people go up and down and i can't believe the prosecution didn't say this or defense said this. at the end of trial, the jury will get all of this evidence, this is going to be a very, very small piece of the puzzle and for those people watching. i know me and you, don, we talk about it all the time.
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and even cedric, you get to the point where people say you can't believe your lying eyes. people don't want you to believe what you are seeing on video. the murder on video. there is going to be a lot of things thrown at these jurors. today is only day one. it is going to be hard to get a guilty verdict even with everything we known to be true and the video we have seen and the history of this country. it does not want to believe there could be a guilty verdict when a police officer killed a black man even in cold blood. >> bakari is not just saying that. he knows, he's an attorney. he knows what he's talking about. cedric, the defense argued that derek chauvin did exactly what he had been trained to do. do you believe he followed police training? when should use of force end? >> first of all, let me say this. i have been around law enforcement for a long time, don.
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nowhere in this united states of america that i am aware of of the procedure that -- in the he took against george floyd on that particular day. is being taught anywhere. in the past and in the present and certain not in the future. i seriously doubt that was trained anywhere inside a police officer's standard in training, states and institutions and such as minnesota, that was taught as a technique to subdue someone. i seriously doubt that. >> don, can i comment on that? >> yes. >> i agree. this is a problem we have. we do not have a standardized use of force guidelines throughout the country. and so yeah, we made doubts it is being taught in minnesota but we don't know. we don't know what's being
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taught in jurisdictions big and small throughout country, people could be getting mma training here or chokeholds training there. it's so mismatched. when you talk about criminal justice reform, is this standardized use of force so we can no what law enforcement is being trained to do. in this case, the police chief is going to come out and say for the prosecution that we did not train them to do that. just ask yourself, most people watching tonight do not know how their law enforcement of the municipality there are trained. they don't know what they can legally do and can't do. that's a problem. that's something the cory booker and rand paul throughout the country are pushing for. >> cedric, i want to talk about the defense arguing that the officers perceive the growing crowd as angry and a threat. you saw the crowd in the video. how do you see that? >> well, that was not an angry crowd.
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that was a crowd that was merely concerned of something that was very wrong taken place in front of them. they saw a man being held down on the ground and a man with a knee on his neck and a man begging for his mother and a man gasping for air and subsequently he went out totally unconscious. what you had on that corner, what's conscientious citizens, citizens did not threaten the officers to do harm, they were passerbys they had something that chauvin did not have, they had a conscious. they had humanity that they live by. they were merely concerned. i want to go back to what bakari said. he is absolutely correct. there is no national standard. we got 50 states in the united states.
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each state has post certifications. many of them are similar. like bakari says the general public really had no idea what they are and what those standards are consist of. i have been saying for years, that's something we have to expose to the public. the tech niques we use under th circumstances. there needs to be a federal standardized standard that cuts across all 50 states. >> i think that -- listen, i think people should look at that video, one thing that you said the crowd did not pose a threat for the officers or never threaten the officers. there is one point in the video where someone is taking the video and derek chauvin pulls out a mace. he had his knee on the neck of george floyd and someone in the video camera, he was threatening them with mace. that shows you the attitude of
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the officers at the time with impunity. going to do what he wants to do. thank you. we'll be talking overtime, i appreciate both of you coming on. trump bashing dr. fauci and dr. birx after comments they made in the documentary. the former president's attack is beyond demeaning. [sfx: psst psst] allergies don't have to be scary. spraying flonase daily stops your body from overreacting to allergens all season long. psst! psst! all good
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former president trump out with a statement attacking his covid task force, dr. fauci and dr. birx both speaking out of a about the president's handling of the pandemic. new cnn's documentary. trump calls birx and fauci self-promoters. trying to reinvent history. dr. birx is a proven liar with less credibility and dr. fauci would talk negative about her and in fact asked not to be in the same room with her. >> let's discuss this with dana bash. she's the cohost of the state of the union. thank you very much. listen, this is about the number of people who died. the millions of people who got sick over the course of the hundreds of thousands over the course of the last president. would he be surprised that he did not say something negative
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or if he did not trash them after they spoke out and candid about their times? it is so donald trump. >> yeah. >> it is so donald trump in every way and particularly the i know you are but what am i kind of tone of the lengthy statement that he put out tonight. you know the thing that he does not really get at his statement is the heart of what dr. birx said to sanjay in this extraordinary special that he had on last night which is about the deaths. we are at an unbelievable number, more than half a million and she said had the trump administration handled it differently then after 100,000 deaths -- after more than it could have been mitigated.
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400,000 people who would be alife. potentially. would be alive if the administration handled it differently. she's getting criticisms and others are trying to protect their legacy and even sanjay said around this documentary is understandable. it does not change the fact that they are revealing things that happen inside the administration. we reported on cnn and other news organization realtime. >> there is this moment where birx talks about being called by trump after an interview with you where she warned of another covid surge, watch this. >> i got called by the president. >> what did he say. >> i think you heard of other conversations that people posted with the president.
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i would say it was more direct than what people have heard. it was very uncomfortable. have direct and very difficult to hear. >> were you threatened? >> i would say it is an uncomfortable conversation. >> dana, in the new statement trump said there was no difficult phone call but we know the former president has a history of lies. >> that's right. you know this was after the interview that i did on state of the union with dr. birx back in august, there were two or three days of news coverage first and foremost of what she said because she was admitting the truth and admitting the reality of what people were seeing and at that time there was widespread damage being done and the virus was widespread even more then when it first hit the u.s. in march but because she was candid about it and she had not been out and talking about
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those things and the days afterwards there was coverage again, realtime reporting by cnn reporters and others about the fact that the president was really angry at her. and again it just goes to show how things were then and how stifle these medical professionals felt and that was a reality they were dealing and that was the reality they were dealing with. a lot of criticism, again, in the wake of this documentary. saying they should have come out. maybe, they should have quit. maybe, they should have, you know, stood up and said, you know what, enough already. but they -- as i told sanjay, they made a decision that it was better for them to stay. and, you know, try to steer the ship in the right way, as opposed to just leaving. >> well, dana, we love having you on this program, giving your perspective and we love watching you on sunday as well. thank you so much. i will see you soon. zwl zwl
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backlash grows over the gop's nationwide effort to pass laws restricting voting. he says critics, like president biden, are playing the race card. >> you know what's sick? is have the president of the united states to play the race card, continuously, in such a hypocritical way. so any time a republican does anything, we're a racist. if you are a white conservative, you are a racist. if you are a black republican, you are either a prop or uncle tom. they use the racism card to advance the liberal agenda and we are tired of it. h.r.1 is sick, not what they're doing in georgia. >> o my gosh, it's so -- i mean, it's unbelievable. you almost have to ask, who the victim is here? calling out policies that hurt people of color, especially at the polls. that's not playing the race card. and listen to how senator graham pushed back on calls to ban assault weapons, after the deadly-mass shootings in colorado and georgia. >> i own an ar-15. if there is a natural disaster,
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in south carolina, where the cops can't protect my neighborhood, my house will be the last one that the gang will come to because i can defend myself. >> hmm. i'm sure you get the racial undertones of graham's gang-violence scare tactics. but, his defense for owning an assault rifle is what? what is his defense? that's a new one. and it makes you wonder, is senator graham focused on solving the big problems that are happening right now? mass shootings? fear in minority communities? equal access to the polls? because right there, that doomsday comment, he seems pretty focused on protecting himself. nine minutes, 29 seconds, prosecutors revealing how long ex-officer derek chauvin knelt on george floyd's neck. everything that happened in day one of the trial. that's next.
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