>> was it another co-worker? >> correct. >> and did you ask the co-worker to make the call? >> no. >> were you present when he made the call? >> correct. >> so you were there next to him or something? >> correct. >> so tat some point did the police respond to the store? >> correct. >> when they responded did you see the officers actually come into the store? >> i do not recall. >> did they deal with you when they came to the store? >> no. >> do you know who they dealt with? >> they went and talked to my manager. >> you were not involved in the conversations with the officers at all at that time? >> no. >> so what did you do? >> i was still working cashier. >> you just went about your business? >> correct. >> as you did that, as you

continued working did you notice a commotion out in front of the store? >> correct. >> do you recall what first drew your attention out there? >> i just saw a few people at first and then the crowd grew larger and pretty soon the store was empty as well and there was nobody i needed to help in the store so i preceded to go outside and see what was happening. >> when you saw the crowd gathering, where was the crowd? >> at the bus stop -- >> i spoke over you. >> it was just ten paces to the left over from the bus stop. >> the bus stop as you are looking out from the store? >> correct. >> so did you, in fact, decide to go out and look into what the crowd was gathering for? >> correct. >> when you went out there, what

did you see? >> i saw people yelling and screaming. i saw derek with his knee on george's neck on the ground. >> let me back up just a little bit. you say derek, you mean mr. chauvin? >> correct. >> did you know who that person was at the time? >> no. >> so you just learned his name since then? >> correct. >> was that person wearing a police uniform? >> correct. >> where did you see that individual? >> on top of george floyd. >> well, other than seeing mr. floyd that day, you did not know him before then? >> correct. >> did you recognize him as the person that had been in the store earlier? >> correct. >> and the person you tried to talk to in the suv? >> correct. >> did you see any other officers in the area? >> i saw -- i think his name is

officer thao. >> where did you see him? >> he was in front of the crowd kind of telling people to stand back? >> do you remember about how many people were in the crowd? >> about several. >> when they were -- well, what did you see the officer on mr. floyd -- what was the relation of their two bodies? what was happening there? >> george was motionless, limp. chauvin seemed -- he was in a resting state, meaning like, he just pressed his knee on his neck. >> what did you do when you saw that? >> i pulled my phone out first and i called my mom and told her not to come downstairs, and then i started recording. >> did you make a recording? >> correct. >> did you keep that recording? >> no.

>> why not? >> later on that night i deleted it because when they picked george up off of the ground, the ambulance went straight on 38th instead of going straight on chicago, and if you ask me the easiest way to get to the hospital would have been on chicago, so that to me kind of made it clear that he was no longer with us. >> so you thought he had died? >> correct. >> not quite sure why that would make you delete the video? >> oh, i just didn't want to have to show it to anybody and be questioned. >> so after you called your mom and started taking the video, what did you do after that? >> i was recording until one of my coworkers was pushed by an officer. >> so what had you seen the co-worker do right before the

push? >> he was yelling at the officer, kind of how the other people in the crowd were doing, asking them to check his pulse, if he's breathing to see if he's okay kind of a thing. >> did he leave the sidewalk curb area and go on to the road? >> correct. >> how far? >> i do not recall. >> this co-worker of yours that got pushed, do you know how old he was that day? >> i do not recall. >> is he older or younger than you? >> younger. >> so a teenager? >> correct. >> after he got pushed, did you see what happened to him or what became of him? >> yes. my other co-worker just, like, grabbed him up and brought him inside. >> so removed him from the scene? >> correct. >> prior to coming into court,

did we show you a security video from cup foods that shows that area? >> correct. >> in that area while you were out there? >> correct. >> and that appeared to depict truly and accurately the time period in which you were out there during this incident? >> correct. >> your honor, i would offer what we have marked as exhibit 33. >> any objection? >> no, judge. >> 33 is received. >> now i will start showing exhibit 33 and we may pause this like we have done the other videos, all right? >> i'm going to pause it right here for a moment. you recognize the scene? >> correct. >> this is you in the

foreground? >> correct. >> what were you doing right at that moment? >> that's when i was calling my mom to tell her not to come down the stairs? >> if she were to come down the stairs, this is where you were living? >> correct. >> the door she would have come out, that would have been the scene? >> correct. >> can you take the stylious and show. >> right here. >> the co-worker that also came out, is that the individual in the white t-shirt? >> correct. >> okay. so we will continue to run exhibit 33, please.

i'm going to pause it right here, please. can you describe for the jurors what you are doing at this moment? >> i was recording the scene.

>> so you walked further over towards the scene? >> correct. >> really by the door where your mom would have come out if she would have come out? >> correct. >> the individual in the white t-shirt, what -- he stepped off into the street from the curb? >> correct. >> let's continue to run exhibit 33, please. we're going to pause right there, please. is that the moment you were talking about when your co-worker got pushed? >> correct. >> did you see it all anywhere in there where he touched the police officer? >> no. >> so then you are now standing around behind that group of people, correct? >> correct. >> did you know anybody in that crowd? >> my two coworkers. >> all right. if you could right now just put a line or a dot on where your

two co-workers are. both of those are individuals that went out during the second trip to the suv, correct? >> correct. >> did you know any of the other people there in the crowd at the time? >> not at the time. >> did you know missis. furnar. >> how did you know her? >> just through school. >> already, let's continue to run exhibit 33, please. >> can you describe for the

jurors what we are seeing? what is going on in that segment of the video? >> that's when one of my coworkers grabbed up and brought him back inside, and i was just yelling, like, chill out, chill out, chill out. >> when his coworkers came to get the young man in the white t-shirt, he went with him back in the store? >> correct. >> you were following them? >> correct. >> so let's continue to run 33, then. i want to pause here for a moment, please. for the record, 08:29:04. tell the jurors what you were doing? >> at this point i was motioning and i went to the african-american there standing on the curb, and i was just like, they're not going to help him, this is what we have to

deal with. >> objection. >> sustained, it will be stricken. >> you had a conversation with another person standing there? >> correct. >> when you walked up there, we saw it just before i stopped it there, there was a young girl there in a green shirt. did you see her when you were walking up there? >> correct. >> do you remember seeing her in the store earlier? >> correct. >> did you know who she was? >> no. >> and do you remember being the cashier when she was in the store earlier? >> correct. >> can we continue to run exhibit 33, please.

i'm going to pause here for a moment and the record should reflect 8:29:55. we saw you standing there with your hands on your head for a time, correct? >> correct. >> what was going through your mind at that time? >> disbelief and guilt. >> why guilt? >> if i would have just not taken the bill this could have been avoided. >> we also saw another individual get pushed by an officer, correct? >> correct. >> what did you do after that happened? >> i was just trying to calm him down and telling him to stand back.

>> all right. so let's continue running 33, please. >> my mom. >> okay, so that takes us to the end of exhibit 33. you were going back into the store? >> correct. >> so then did you just continue to work your shift? >> correct.

>> so did you continue to work at cup foods as long as you could? >> no. >> why not? >> i didn't feel safe. >> i have no further questions, your honor.

>> good morning, sir. >> good morning. >> thank you for being here today. you testified that you are currently 20 years old? >> 19. >> 19. i'm sorry, i didn't hear that. at the time you were both living and working at cup foods, right, or in the apartments above you were living and working there? >> correct. >> all right. you testified you had worked there for about a month and a half to two months before this incident? >> four months. >> four months. okay. you would agree that you've made a few statements in connection with this case? >> correct. >> you were first interviewed by agents of the bureau of criminal

apprehension and fbi back on september 10th of last year. do you recall that? >> correct. >> you have had another meeting as of march 12th with the prosecutors and other agents of the bca, correct? >> correct. >> you understand that those statements were recorded? >> correct. >> and you understand that we have been provided with transcripts? >> correct. >> you have had an opportunity to review your statements prior to coming into court? >> yes. >> you have had an opportunity to review your transcript? >> correct. >> so i just want to walk through again, we've now watched a few videos from both inside the store, outside the store and from a neighboring business, agreed? >> correct. >> and you have had an opportunity to address some things that happened inside the store, outside the store throughout the whole incident,

correct? >> correct. >> so you were working -- your shift you said started about 3:00 p.m. that day? >> correct. >> and this incident ultimately was around the 7:30 to 8:00 hour, right? >> correct. >> when we were watching the first video you and your coworkers seemed to get along quite well? >> correct. >> talking and laughing and having fun and interacting with customers and things of that nature? >> correct. >> and the store is sort of like a one-stop kind of a store, right? you can do a lot of things in the store? >> correct. >> they have got a deli, you said, and you've got cell phone service, cell phone repair, snacks, and then there's a separate tobacco area, right? >> correct. >> now in the store where we see you behind the counter is there

an entrance for employees into the tobacco area that you go through? >> could you ask the question again, please. >> sure. i understand when a customer comes into cup foods there are two doors they can go through? >> correct. >> one is through the tobacco store, and the other is through the convenience store, the general store? >> correct. >> the tobacco shop is separate because you have to be a certain age to go into the store, correct? >> correct. >> you have to be 21, right? >> no. >> 18 -- to buy products or to go into the store? >> to go into the tobacco portion. >> i am not sure there's an age requirement. people came in there no matter how old they were? >> inside the store, is there a partition or glass that

separates the tobacco area from the convenience store? >> correct. >> my question is, where you stand do you have to walk out through the convenience store door and go into the tobacco store door or is there a separate entrance where you can get into the tobacco portion? >> where are you starting? >> if you were the cashier there -- >> oh, you can just go into the tobacco portion, you don't have to go around. >> okay. >> no worries. >> you were in the store and you saw a person that was ultimately identified as george floyd. >> correct. >> and you assisted him in the store? >> correct. >> he was in the store, and the person you observed in the front

passenger seat was also in the videos we just waetched? >> correct. >> he had on red sweat pants? >> correct. >> did you have interactions with him in the store? >> correct. >> you said he attempted to use a counterfeit bill? >> correct. >> but you stopped him? >> correct. >> did you happen before or after your interaction with mr. floyd? >> before. >> so when he handed you that bill, you knew it was a fraud? >> correct. >> you immediately kind of said, hey, i'm not taking this bill? >> correct. >> you knew the store policy at that time, right? >> correct. >> and the store policy being if you took a counterfeit bill, that was your responsibility? >> correct. >> so it would get deducted from your paycheck, in other words? >> correct. >> and you have some sort of

store tab where you could buy merchandise yourself or services and it would be deducted from your salary? >> correct. >> so that interaction with that other individual approximately was it earlier in the day? was it a few minutes before you interacted with mr. floyd how long was it before that happened? >> earlier in the day? >> so both mr. floyd and that other individual had been in the store earlier in the day, right? >> correct. >> was that an hour, two hours? do you recall? >> i do not recall. >> but you remembered him when he came back in the store later in the afternoon? >> correct. >> you remembered he was the guy that tried to hand you a counterfeit bill from earlier? >> correct. >> he had not changed his clothes or look any different? >> i don't think so. >> okay. so when mr. floyd and this other individual came back in the store we observed kind of him

walking around the store, right? >> correct. >> you were helping other customers, and you were talking to your coworkers and it's fair to say you were not paying a lot of attention to what mr. floyd was doing at all times he was in the store? >> correct. >> but now that you have had an opportunity to see the video, you get to see some of his other interactions and things of that nature, right? >> correct. >> the -- there were other customers in the store, and the store is a pretty busy store, right? >> correct. >> your manager that you talked to, did you notice that he had what appeared to be a pistol in his -- >> correct. >> do you know him to carry a firearm at the store? >> correct. >> the -- when you watched the video, did you see mr. floyd sort of do some little dance at

one point? >> no. >> okay. we'll come back. so you did not observe that when he was in the store? >> no. >> all right. if it's on the video, it would be on the video, right? >> correct. >> again, so at some point mr. floyd appeared to purchase some food as well, right? >> correct. >> that being a banana, it looked like, in the video. >> correct. >> did you sell him the banana? >> i do not recall. >> when he handed you that $20, you testified that you immediately knew it was a fake? >> correct. >> did it appear to be the same type of fake or maybe even the same counterfeit bill that you had refused earlier in the day? >> correct, it did appear to be similar. >> and so you took that bill and you held it up and you kind of looked eight the through the light, right? >> correct. >> what were you looking for? >> that's a good question. i have no idea.

i was just looking at it. i don't know. >> but you immediately recognized it to be a counterfeit bill? >> correct. >> when some bills have, like, a metal or some sort of stripe through it, and could you have been looking for something like that? >> i will be honest, i don't know what i was looking for but i just knew it was fake? >> you could tell by the texture of the bill? >> and the color, as i stated before, the blue pigment. >> you had a pleasant interaction with mr. floyd? >> correct. >> you were asking him about sports and things of that nature, correct? >> correct. >> you formed the opinion that mr. floyd was under the influence of something? >> correct. >> and you based that on sort of, i think you said, a delay in his speech and response, right? >> correct. >> so you have had unlike a conversation we may be having

right now that is rapid, if you asked him a question it would be much more of a slowed or delayed response? >> correct. >> i believe in your interviews you also indicated that he was having some trouble with certain words? >> correct. he was trying to form the words. >> so he was delayed in his speech and you believed him to be under the influence of something? >> correct. >> all right. you were present when your co-worker called 911? >> correct. >> do you recall him telling 911 that he appeared to be under the influence? >> correct. >> you had also had -- by the time 911 was called you had two other interactions with mr. floyd outside of the car? >> correct. >> so you made the decision after mr. floyd handed you this

counterfeit $20 that you weren't going to call him out on it like you did with the earlier bill? >> correct. >> was that in part because you felt maybe he was under the influence? >> partially. partially the other person that had come in, it kind of seemed like he was trying to scheme, like he knew it was a fake bill and he was trying to get it over and i thought george did not know it was a fake bill so i thought i would be doing him a favor. >> so just trying to help him out? >> right. >> and could you have -- i'm just asking generally, could you have just let it kind of go and told your manager later, hey, put it on my tab? >> correct. >> but you made the decision to talk to your manager, show him the bill and your manager instructed you to go talk to mr. floyd and his friend out in the car? >> correct. >> when you went out to the car

the first time with your first co-worker, you had a relatively short conversation with him, right? >> correct. >> you went to the passenger side of the vehicle and the person in the red pants and the white t-shirt, that was the same person that had previously tried to pass the fake $20 bill? >> correct. >> you were encouraging them to come into the store? >> correct. >> you were kind of saying, you have to come in and you paid with a fake bill and we have to deal with this, correct? >> correct. >> you specifically told them that he had used a counterfeit bill? >> correct. >> and that they needed to come in and either pay for the cigarettes or -- >> talk to my manager. >> -- or talk to the manager, correct? >> correct. >> how would you describe the

general tenor of that conversation? what i mean by that, was it pleasant or was it more aggressive? >> it was pleasant. it was not aggressive, just annoying. >> come on in guys -- your first attempt to say come on in, guys, you have to deal with this? >> correct. >> and you were trying to be paw light to these gentlemen? >> correct. >> you then had that conversation, and during that first conversation you said that mr. floyd was not really speaking to you, right? >> no. >> you said he was kind of putting his hands up and putting his head back and things of that nature, right? >> correct. >> you then went back into the store and talked to your manager again and told him that they were not agreeable to coming into the store? >> correct. >> the second time you left the

store you were sort of following the other coworkers, agreed? >> correct. >> you would agree that that video sort of showed the three of you almost run out of the store? >> correct. >> you wanted to get them before they drove away, right? or why would you run the second time? >> correct. >> just so they didn't drive away or for some other reason? >> correct. >> now in terms of the second exchange at the vehicle, the co-worker went to the driver's side at first, right? >> correct. >> you stayed back a little bit, right? >> correct. >> and you were brought back up to the vehicle, right? >> yes. >> you heard the conversation and you heard what was being said both by the passenger of the vehicle as well as your co-worker? >> correct.

>> you indicated that the passenger pulled out the other $20 bill, right? >> he picked it up off the ground? >> why was it on the ground? >> because he threw it on the ground. >> the bill that mr. floyd used, was that still in the store? >> correct. >> so this other $20 bill, he threw it on the ground, right? >> correct. >> your co-worker picks it up and who ripped it? >> the person in the passenger's seat. >> you're co-worker handed it back to him or something, or did he rip it and then throw it on the ground? >> the person in the passenger seat ripped the bill and threw it on the ground, and the person picked it up. >> again, this conversation was primarily with the passenger of the vehicle? >> correct. >> there was a female in the backseat of the car? >> correct. >> was she engaged in the

conversation at all either? >> no. >> mr. floyd, again, he was not really part of the conversation at that point either? >> no. >> you don't remember him saying anything? >> i would say i do not recall. >> okay. but you, again, described his behavior as just shaking his head, putting his hands up, putting his head back and things of that nature, right? >> correct. >> the second conversation was the demeanor, or was the tenor of that conversation more heated? >> yes. >> there was an out right refusal by mr. floyd and his passenger to come back in the store? >> correct. >> it was based on that conversation that you decided to -- or it was decided by your

manager to call 911? >> correct. >> again, you were present and heard the 911 call? >> correct . >> now, in your initial conversation with agents when they were asking -- when they were asking you about approaching the vehicle, do you recall describing it as a hot block? >> correct. >> what does that mean? >> a lot of situations happen. >> do you recall describing your conversation and the words that mr. floyd was having trouble saying? >> correct.

>> do you remember now today what words mr. floyd was having trouble saying? >> no. >> baseball, do you remember saying that? >> i do not recall. >> would it refresh your recollection to view a transcript of your statement? >> absolutely. >> i turned to the wrong page. give me just a second. >> i apologize. i can't find it right now but we

may come back to that. do you recall describing some other behaviors of mr. floyd while he was in the store? >> correct. >> what were those behaviors? >> like a lunge? >> like this? >> no, more of a side lunge. >> for the record, i am standing with my feet together and stretching over to the side. >> correct. >> and based on your observations of his behavior and speech patterns, that's what caused you to form the impression that he was under the influence? >> correct. >> you ultimately met with the

prosecution team on march 12th in preparation for your testimony? >> correct. >> that's when you were able to view some of the videos we watched here today? >> correct. >> again, you understood there were agents or law enforcement officers that were there at that time? >> correct. >> do you recall telling them that you felt that mr. floyd couldn't comprehend the conversation? >> which conversation? >> your conversation with him? >> the first conversation with him? >> right. >> i do not recall. but if that's on my transcript, that's the way it is. >> okay.

you said after that phone call to the police, you didn't see the police come into the store and you didn't deal with them initially, right? >> correct. >> you had some -- you had some -- you just kind of went back to work, right? >> correct. >> dealing with customers, goofing off with your coworkers, just your average day, right? >> correct. >> but then at some point you noticed there was a commotion outside and you decided to go back outside and see what was going on, right? >> correct. >> you said the first thing you did was to call your mom to tell her not to come downstairs? >> correct. >> and then you walked over and you started recording, right? >> correct. >> and then after you did some recording you -- you saw your co-worker appear to be pushed by

the police officer, right? >> correct. >> you got your co-worker and brought him back inside -- >> i did not. >> your other coworkers went back inside, right? >> correct. >> and it appeared you walked back to the door and then back to the crowd? >> correct. >> you described the crowd that they were yelling and screaming? >> correct. >> at one point you tried to -- >> hold them back, correct. >> and that individual appeared to be pretty angry? >> correct. >> you held him back because you didn't want him to get involved? >> yes. well, i would say -- not necessarily angry, he had just been pushed so he was kind of defending himself. >> okay.

>> you just said calm down and stand back, right? >> correct. >> i have no further questions, sir. thank you for your time. >> any redirect? >> yes, sir. during your work at cup foods, did they ever send you to training and how to identify a fake bill? >> no. >> you were just learning from experience? >> correct. >> when you did interact with mr. floyd in the store, what was

his demeanor like? >> he seemed very friendly. he was very talkative, and just had an average memorial day just living his life, but he did seem high . >> during your second trip out to the vehicle, it was your co-worker that did most of the talking to mr. floyd and the passenger? >> correct. >> mr. nelson asked you if it was a more heated conversation. >> correct. >> and mr. nelson asked you to agree that there was an out right refusal to come back into the store?

was that mr. nelson's words? >> it was mr. nelson's words. >> so mr. floyd did not say, i refuse to come back into the store. >> yes. >> but to be fair, they were not coming back into the store? >> correct. >> you mentioned the stretches mr. floyd was doing in the store and mr. nelson demonstrated that for us, and that was a pretty accurate demonstration of what you saw? >> yes. >> and during that period mr. nelson -- sorry, mr. floyd did not fall down? >> no. >> did not lose his balance at all? >> no. >> when he indicated he wanted to buy cigarettes, you and he both had to move down to the cigarette counter, correct? >> correct. >> did he tell you i want to buy cigarettes? >> yes. >> did he tell you what kind of brand? >> i do not recall. >> we saw you grab a pack?

>> yes. >> and he provided you money and took the change, right? >> correct. >> he was able to finish that transaction? >> correct. >> you didn't have to guess at what cigarettes he wanted? >> correct. >> i have nothing further, your honor. >> any recross? you were asked a couple questions about the counterfeit bill? >> correct. >> do you get a lot of

counterfeit bills in that store? >> no. >> has it happened before? >> correct. >> i believe you were previously asked about good counter ffeits and bad counterfeits in your statement with the police? >> i do not recall. >> have you seen some bills that are better counterfeits than others? >> i don't think so. >> but you understood that immediately this was a counterfeit bill? >> correct. >> nothing further. >> thank you, sir. you are excused. >> thank you . >> i aopl john king in washington and you are watching the third day of witness testimony of derek chauvin.

let's listen in. a new witness is being called. >> the prosecution witness come into the room, and while we wait for the witness to be in sworn, let's bring in cnn legal analyst, laura coates. mr. martin has been the witness for this day, and he was the cashier in cup foods and you see him talking about trying to get floyd to come in and make amends, and what is your biggest t takeaway? >> the take away is whether he was under the influence or if there was a counterfeit bill involved, they are trying to remove any sort of gotcha moment by the defense. this does not go to the meat of the trial which is whether or not the then officer derek

chauvin used excessive force when the threat was neutralized, and all of this sets the scene and stage, and whether there was a counterfeit bill, his own interaction with george floyd, not relevant because george floyd is not on trial, the witness is not on trial and the other eyewitnesses are not on trial but it's derek chauvin. >> sorry, i need to stop you right now. i need to take us back into the courtroom. sorry. >> may 25th of 2020, is that where you lived? >> may 25th is not where i live, no. >> no, is that where you lived on that day? >> yeah, south minneapolis. >> how long you have lived in south minneapolis? >> about three years. >> are you familiar with the area of 38th and chicago? >> yes. >> is there a store at one of the corners -- at least one of

the corners at 38th and chicago? >> yes. >> at least on may 25th there was? >> yes. >> is there also a restaurant there? >> yes. >> what was the restaurant at that intersection? >> what was it? >> yeah, what was the name of it? >> i don't really know, to tell you the truth. >> on may 25th of 2020, did you go to the area of 35th and chicago to get food from one of those restaurants? >> yes, yes, cup foods. >> so you went to cup foods to get food? >> yes, but there's another restaurant down the street and i thought that's what you were talking about. >> i was. >> you went to cup foods later that evening, correct? >> correct. >> did you drive there? >> yes. >> where did you park? >> on the corner of 38th and chicago, on the 38th side

facing -- what is that, cedar? >> what i will do is put up something we have had admitted as exhibit 1, and that should come up on the screen in front of you. do you see that photograph? >> right. >> do you recognize what is depicted there? >> that's 38th and chicago intersection. >> all right. you should have right in front of you a stylist like this, maybe a different color. see that? >> uh-huh. >> what i would ask you to do, for the jurors draw on the screen where you drove up and where you parked on that day? >> i came this way, and parked right here. >> when you parked there, do you recall seeing a vehicle in front of you? >> yes, sir. >> do you remember what kind of vehicle that was? >> mercedes benz. >> do you remember what color it was? >> not off hand. >> what style of car -- >> it's like a hatch back mercedes benz, like a sports truck or something like that.

>> when you pulled up there and parked, did you see something that drew your attention? >> not right off hand. shortly after, yes, when two officers was coming across the street. i noticed them coming and they approached the vehicle in front of me. one officer drew a handgun and opened the door and pointed the gun at whoever was in the driver's seat. >> at that point in time had you gotten your food already or not yet? >> no, no sir. >> you were sitting in your car and you saw the officers pull up -- or walk up, right? >> right. >> after seeing that what happened next? >> it kind of startled me. you know, where i am from, when

you see -- >> stop right there. don't talk about past experiences, just this -- >> yeah, i saw the officer raise his gun. i started recording. >> okay. that's what i wanted to ask you about, right? at some point you started recording that? >> right. >> that was because of basically what you saw, correct? >> right. so at some point you stopped the recording? >> correct. >> why did you stop that recording at that point in time? >> because i heard more sirens pulling up and i didn't want to be trapped in between the whole commotion of what was going on. i didn't know exactly what was going on, i just didn't want to be in the middle of, you know, a bunch of commotion about what was going on, so i moved across the street.

>> so you moved your car? >> yes, sir. >> prior to coming into court today, did we show you a copy of that video? >> yes, sir. >> did that video truly and accurately represent what you were seeing while you were recording it? >> yes, sir. >> we marked it at exhibit 35, and your honor, i would offer 35 at this time? >> no objections. >> 35 is received. >> we will play that video for you now and then we will ask you questions about it either during or after, okay? >> okay.

recording, do you recall if your window was down? >> yes, sir. >> so we were able to hear some of it on the video, and were you able to hear it better sitting there in person than in the video? >> i vaguely heard most of it. >> what were you kind of hearing? >> i heard him asking him to let him see your hands, and he's saying, please, i have been shot or something before, and please don't, or something like that. at that time that's when i heard the sirens pulling up and they were pulling him out and that's when i went to back up and turn

around. >> okay. i will go back now to exhibit 1, and we'll put that up again. again, if you would take the stylist and just show the jurors where you went when you moved your vehicle? >> backed up. moved my vehicle there. >> for the recorder showing you moved your car from the dragon side of 38th to the cup food side? >> yes, sir. >> when you got over there, what did you do? >> i continued to record. >> you started recording again, right? >> right. >> when you were recording did you have somebody in the car with you? >> yes, my fiance. when she was in the car i was getting in cup foods getting f food.

>> conversations between you and her were also recorded? >> yes, sir. >> so did you start recording then at that point? >> yes, sir. >> prior to coming into court did you also have a chance to review that video? >> yes, sir. >> it appears to be a true and accurate copy of the actual video you made? >> most definitely. >> i will tell you that we have deleted the audio from this video. >> yes, sir. >> the conversation that you and your fiance had, it's not important, it's the video. >> as it should be. >> and we have marked that as exhibit 36, and we would offer it at this time? >> any objection? >> no, your honor. >> 36 is admitted. >> now we will show exhibit 36.

>> now, if we could pause it right here, please. there's no time stamp on the video so we will do our best to describe it. oh, there is a time stamp on the video. this would be approximately 26 seconds. do you see that? >> uh-huh. >> all right. and what you are seeing here obviously, there are two officers -- well, there are now three officers on the scene, correct? >> correct. >> the original two officers are in this view and one of the

officers is with the individual sitting on the ground, correct? >> correct. >> the individual sitting on the ground, do you recall seeing him from when you were parked behind the mercedes before? >> correct. >> where was that individual when you were parked behind the vehicle? >> he was in the driver seat. >> so that's the same individual that in the prior video had been removed from the driver's seat? >> correct. >> and did you see while you were moving the car how those two officers and that individual went from the mercedes in the prior video to where they are now? >> correct. >> how did that happen? >> they brought him out, walked him over to the sidewalk and sat him down. one officer then went over to the other people that was in the vehicle and started asking them questions. >> then the other officer had the driver sit on the ground there where we see him now?

>> correct. >> so then we will continue to play exhibit 36, please.

exhibit 36 has ended and you stopped filming at that moment? >> yes, sir. >> why did you stop recording that? >> slightly still kind of scared, nervous. one of the officers kept staring at me while i was recording so i kind of put it down. then i went to record again and then i was, like, i really don't want any problems so i stopped recording. >> at that point did you think the incident with this individual and officers was over? >> when i stopped recording i drove towards the corner as they

crossed over with george, the two officers that came and approached him in the first place. they went to walk him across the street, then when we went to turn to go back home, we seen them placing them in the pholic car, and i kept driving. i thought he was detained and over so i kept going home. >> you referred to him as george. what do you mean by that? >> i felt george was detained. >> so when you say george, this individual removed by the mercedes, did you know this individual? >> no. >> so subsequently you learned it was george floyd? >> yes. >> i want to put exhibit 1 back up, please. if you would, again, show the jurors, you know, where you saw

them -- well, if you would just put an "x" where you were parked when you made that second video? do you know what i mean? >> try again? okay. then if you would show the jurors where you saw them walking mr. floyd after you stopped recording? >> they were walking him this way. >> so then at some point you started up your car and drove off out of the area? >> correct. >> can you show the jurors where you drove when you did that? so the record should reflect you turned from 38th street to go what would be southbound on chicago? >> correct. >> and the record should also reflect you are indicating the officers walking mr. floyd from the dragon walk