might be the final straw. thanks so much for joining us. don't forget you can watch "out front "any time anywhere at cnn go. "ac 360" starts now. he told george floyd he could not win as police tried to get floyd into a squad car. today, on the witness stand charles mcmillan's memories of that day and the video of it brought him to tears. jim sciutto here in again for anderson tonight. day three of the derek chauvin trial saw witnesses haunted by their helplessness as a man was slowly killed right in front of their eyes. we watched a juror experience what she later called a stress related reaction to those proceedings. we saw for the first time body cam video of george floyd's confrontation with police. cnn senior national correspondent sara sidner has our report and we must give you this woarning, some of this vido

is tough to watch. >> reporter: 61-year-old eyewitness charles mcmillan took the stand breaking down in sobs after prosecutors played this body cam video of george floyd interacting with police. >> i can't breathe. i can't breathe. i can't breathe. >> stop moving. >> helpless. i don't have a mama, either, but i just hear him -- >> reporter: mcmillan is the man you hear on the video begging floyd to give into police before floyd is taken to the ground. >> you ain't going to win. >> i understand once you get in the cuff, you can't win, you're done. >> reporter: mcelderry mill done told the jury reregularly walks his neighborhood and in fact, bumped into officer derek chauvin there five days before

floyd's arrest. >> five days ago, i told him go home to your family safe and the next person go to their family safe but he look at you as a maggot. >> reporter: the jury saw george floyd alive watching not seen before surveillance video from inside the cup foot store. 19-year-old former cashier christopher martin took the stand to explain what was going on leading up to police arriving. >> do you recall what it was you sold to him? >> a pack of cigarettes. he seemed very friendly. approachable. he was talkative. he seemed to just be having an average, normal day just living his life. >> reporter: a scene from everyday life but the jury knows they're watching a dead man walking in less than an hour, floyd will be struggling for his life under then officer derek chauvin's knee. martin says floyd seemed high. >> when i had asked him if he played baseball, he went on to

respond to that, but it kind of took him a little long so it would appear he was high. >> reporter: and paid for cigarettes with an odd looking $20 bill. >> i assumed it was fake. >> reporter: he testified the store policy is if a cashier accepts counter fit money, it comes out of their paycheck. >> i took it anyways and i was planning to just put it on my tab until i second guessed myself and as you can see in the video, i kept examining it and i eventually told my manager. >> reporter: the manager of the store asked another employee to call police on flood after the teenage employees confronted floyd at his car twice. when police eventually detained floyd, martin heard a commotion and went outside. >> george was motionless. limp. and chauvin seemed very like he was in a resting state. >> what is going through your mind during that time period?

>> disbelief and guilt. >> okay. why guilt? >> if i would have just not taken the bill, this could have been avoided. >> reporter: and for the first time, we hear chauvin explaining on his body camera why he restrained floyd. >> got to control this guy because he's a sizable guy. >> yeah, i thought he couldn't get in the car. >> looks like he's probably on something. >> >> reporter: the jury saw the excruciating close video from several angles from officer's body cameras. >> mama, i love you. >> reporter: it takes several minutes before you hear an officer just one question chauvin's tactics. >> roll him on his side? >> no. >> i just worry about him getting air or whatever. >> sara sidner joins us now. so many moments in there, just heart stopping to watch.

how surprised were court watchers? how were they affected by this because al lot of this we were seeing for the first time and they were seeing for the first time. >> reporter: i think what you just said that your heart is almost stopped as you're watching these moments that are just excruciatingly painful because it feels like you're there. it is from the prospective of the officers that surveillance video when they are so close, you can hear him struggling to breathe. you can hear him begging for his breath, begging for his mother, thinking about the woman who would care for him and by the way, his mother has long been dead but at that moment, he just wanted the one person he knew would care for him. it was really hard to watch. i know a lot of people have been writing to me, calling me saying i couldn't watch the whole thing. it was too much. and i'm sure that the jury, some of them certainly felt that same way. one of the things that really

stuck out to me was almost a one-two punch when you heard from charles mcmillan and you saw him completely break down on the stand unable to finish his sentence as a 61-year-old man who normally walks the streets, he began his testimony. he was jovial and funny and said he was nosey and heard commotion and as a nosey guy in the neighborhood, we went over to see what was going on. we all know a guy like that in the neighborhood, right? we know somebody that goes and trieds to check out what is happening but then what he saw broke him and you saw that on the stand. that was followed by video after video after video of george floyd begging, begging with all his might and you can hear the fear in his voice for his life and guess what? the jury is leaving with that image and those sounds of a sobbing 61-year-old and a

sobbing george floyd. they left the courtroom with that in their minds. that was the last thing they heard. >> yeah. i mean, the cries for his mother. the cries for his mother. sara sidner, thanks so much. joining us is kathryn flynn she defended baltimore police officer garrett miller in the death of fredddie gray and laur coats. laura, describe based on your experience if you can, the impact on a jury. it a jury of 12 human beings, right, when they see this up close through the body camera footage, right? this is a man dying slowly. when they hear him calling for his mother in that instance there. how do juries react to that kind of thing? >> remember, during the voir dire process some of them never seen the original 8 minute 46 second video we first saw. seeing that for the first time two days ago and seeing this and

hearing the testimony from keep agers, somebody as young as 9. imagine if the 61-year-old is breaking down like that on the stand, what is the trama that is being associated with t tthe 9-year-old, the 18-year-old, the firefighter, as well. the mixed marshall arts fighter who spoke about these issues. all of this is the combination of so much and these words will ch churn around in jurors minds and looking towards derek chauvin the defendant in this case, why didn't you move? why didn't this move you the way it obviously moves so many other people? it really is forcing the hand of the defense counsel to consider whether he will have to take the stand because the prosecution is doing no favor to try to answer that question for him and offuate the need for him to take the stand. >> yeah, christopher miller describing derek chauvin being in a resting state as he had his knee on george floyd's neck. remarkable testimony there.

kathryn, every time the prosecution introduces more video of floyd's death into evidence, whether it body camera footage or other footage including from bystanders, i mean, in effect, they are reshowing, right, the alleged crime here. that puts the defense in a tough position is that automatically bad for the defense and how do they push back? >> well, something i was struck by is that the defense doesn't seem to be objecting to what some of the civilian witnesses are testifying to. when the state asked the witnesses how did this make you feel, that's not really relevant and the defense could have objected to that and one of the things you can do as a defense attorney is interrupt the flow and sort of try and knock the state off their game and interrupt things and so knowing that there is going to be this

avalanche of video testimony, it certainly would be an option to break that up and at some point potentially reject to it because it's redundant and isn't adding anything, any more evidence to the case and so that's something i was struck by today. >> laura, you and i discussed this last night. yesterday there were some contentious interactions between the defense and some of the witnesses. we didn't see that today even in the midst and to ckathryn's poit of them playing this over and over again. do you see a course correction there from the defense? >> i think we are, and to kathryn's point, too, they could have stipulated to having all these things admitted at some point and not have the need to have the repetition but of course, the benefit of the prosecution to keep playing it to have this repetition. the resent part of the prosecution strategy there was a course correction because i

don't think the defense counsel understood when they began to be confrontational or to try to scrape goat the witnesses as if somehow this seemingly to them this unruly cloud precipitated the conduct of officers if the crowd was reacting to. they realized i'm sure quickly that the juice was not worth the squeeze and if you're not moving the needle in the direction in favor of your client, then perhaps it best simply to redirect your efforts in something else and remember, it's going to come down to the second fact or second question, jim, whether the kneeling was a substantial causal factor in his death. they are probably going to set up and reserve a lot of gun powder for the battle of experts as opposed to wasting it trying to undermine some of the most pure credible witnesses l llike 9 year olds or 18-year-olds, disinterested parties. >> kathryn, a question for the defense, a big one, would you put derek chauvin on the stand? >> i would certainly want to try and do that.

i mean, one of the real benefits of being able to put your client on the stand is to be able to humanize him to the jury and if he can come across as personable and human, that can be very effective and i certainly think all of the jurors are going to want to know what was going on in his mind. i mean, the defense obviously is going to be focussing on the fact this was all in compliance with the training he received. that seemed to be what they were suggesting in their opening is they're setting this up this is what the officer was doing was perfectly reasonable, and in line with his training, and i certainly think having him testify as to exactly what was going through his mind, i mean, obviously, there was some suggestion that there's a perceived threat from this crowd and i think that might have been under cut by quite a few of these civilian witnesses who

didn't really seem all that threatening and the worst they did was swear at the officers. so i think having the officer testify from his perspective to establish the reasonableness of his decision making would be helpful if he can be successful as a witness. i mean, obviously, the cross-examination is going to be pretty withering. >> one member of the crowd was crying on the stand overcome by emotion doesn't seem to fit the profile. laura, you do hear in this body cam footage something of testimony, right, from derek chauvin where after the fact he's explaining to a member of the crowd saying in effect, we had to use that force because he's a big man. right? i mean, that -- his initial defense if you can call it that in the moment, important to that in your view, laura? >> the idea of trying to suggest this is a david and goliath

moment is absurd because whatever power dynamic may have been at issue, this was an unconscious not breathing man who was not resisting arrest. there is a timeline and an expiration time for when you're able to continue to use lethal force when your suspect or the person you're trying to subdue has been completely neutralized and rendered unconscious. any argument in the contrary he has not proven in his statement today we heard did not move the needle. >> listen, laura coats, kathryn flynn, so good to be able to draw on your experience. >> thank you very much. next, to the point of officer chauvin's training. a closer look at police and choke holds in particular and what was gone to george floyd should ever be done to anyone in any circumstance regardless of how well trained an officer is. a former top cop will join us and the strange, very strange saga of congressman matt gaetz.

how the feds investigated him as a broader probe of sex trafficking allegations involving another florida politician.

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without making a ketchup for everyone. all week prosecutors in the derek chauvin trial have put video of george floyd's death front and center repeatedly. not merely for the emotional punch it certainly packs we seen in the courtroom also for what it shows to an expert eye and they hope to jurors. one witness who is skilled in mixed marshall arts has already testified to what he saw in what chauvin did. >> did you draw on your training and experience in wrestling and mixed marshall arts to get an idea what this officer was doing there? >> correct. i was standing there and observing everything before i even spoke if you seen the video, i watched what was going on and as he is positioned before i even spoke to the officer, i watched the position,

one, of where the position of the knee was on the neck. you know, two, what body movements was going on while he -- while the knee was on the neck and three, what was the condition of george floyd while he was going through the -- through this torture. one was that the neck was diagonal across the throat, which on a blood choke, you would attack the side of the neck, you know, and which you're in a kimora or side choke or things like that you want to attack the side of the neck to cut the circulation of the breathing from your person and to get the choke tighter, you hit different shimmies, which i felt the officer on top was shimmying to actually get the final choke in while he was on top. >> so, was this a misuse of a proper technique or just flatout wrong? in a moment we'll speak with a former big city police chief but first, useful background on choke holds specifically from

gary tuchman. >> reporter: this is the proedge boxing and mmg gym in phoenix, arizona and with us now is a black belt and brazilian jujitsu. this is coach mario. he is a trainer. choke holds. part of mma? >> 100%. >> reporter: and why do you teach them? what's the purpose of teaching choke holds? >> choke holds is one way to end a fight without any serious violence and you can do it without serious injury. >> reporter: but you have to do it ethically? >> you have to be responsible about it. >> reporter: show me what you teach. >> a rear naked choke, when i'm behind me opponent, i bring my forearm in front of his throat underneath the chin. my hand grabs on to my bicep to lock the position. i bring my other hand behind his head. there i slowly start to -- when my opponent taps, i need to

release. >> reporter: what's another one you teach? >> another basic choke is called a front guillotine. so when i have my oopponent's head in a down position i get him in a basic front head lock, grab my other hand. i slowly start to squeeze. again, my opponent taps and i got to release. >> reporter: that's ethical. >> these are all ethical. >> reporter: you've trained with police officers, you know what they go through. they're taught to do it like this. they're not taught to do what is done in minnesota? >> no, definitely not. >> reporter: with one of your associates here, the manager of the gym, show me on the mat. >> definitely. >> reporter: when coach mario looks at the derrick chauvin vide videotapes, this is what he sees. >> he had his knee on his arm. his other knee was right across his neck. here. i'm being light. you can see where i'm on my toes right here because i'm being

light. i'm being nice to him. once i change my toe position, now you can see his face if i wering. if i'm like this, his face is fine. he's fine. but what i believe the officer should have done was this here on the shoulder blade hand control. right? and he's here. george wasn't going anywhere three other officers here. he's stuck in this position. i keep the head control but as you can clearly see, once i change my foot position and i start to put the pressure. >> reporter: so i take it you were horrified when you saw that videotape? >> i was like oh my god, it was completely unnecessary. he didn't have to have his knee on your neck. >> reporter: what do you teach your students never to do?

hold the choke. as soon as somebody taps, release the choke. >> that clearly did not happen in george floyd's case. we know the result. joining us now cnn law enforcement analyst charles ramsey and top cop in washington d.c. and philadelphia. chief ramsey, always good to have you on. you heard the the trainer there. he's not just a trainer. he helps train police. and he described what was training, right, and what was completely unnecessary and describing chauvin's use of force as unnecessary and it turned out possibly deadly. >> i do. you know, many departments have banned choke holds out right banned it. others have put it into a category of deadly force. the same as using a firearm because of the potential for bodily arm or even death if it

not done properly and so what you saw chauvin do was totally inappropriate on a va riety of levels but certainly, you know, the fact that he sustained that kind of pressure for the length of time he did is just inexcusable and i can't see anybody saying that that was justified. >> you know, what stood out to me of many things today was one of the witnesses there describing derek chauvin, christopher miller as being in a resting student. he showed the unnecessary pressure. as being a police officer for many years, could you see yourself being in that position and him being in a resting state? >> i've been in situations where force is necessary but like

you're trained, you only use it to get an arrest. once the resistance stops, yo u s stop. it no more complicated than that. there was part in time of resistance on george floyd getting in the car. he saidclaustrophobic or whatever. they got him in the car and pulled him back out. when they got him down on the ground, he is kicking legs around and they get control of that. well, once that's over, the force is over. there's another five or six minutes they continue to hold him down, apply pressure and that's just totally inappropriate. it's no longer needed. >> chief ramsey, thanks so much for helping us understand it. i know we'll keep up the conversation in the days ahead. >> yeah. straight ahead -- >> thank you. >> an update on the federal investigation into republican congressman matt gaetz and new information on what the allegations concerned.

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diehard supporter of former president trump and conservative fire brand congressman matt gaetz is under federal investigation according to a source familiar with the probe. the probe centers around allegations involving sex

trafficking and prostitution including allegations involving a minor. gaetz has denied accusations says separately he's a victim of extortion. a story first reported by "the new york times" and today appearing on fox news, house republican leader kevin mccarthy had this to say. >> those are serious implications if it comes out to be true, yes, we would remove him if that was the case. it's not true and we don't have any information. let's get all the information. >> this probe began under former attorney general bill barr. a source familiar with the matter says barr was briefed multiple times. "360" randi kaye has the latest. >> reporter: at the heart of the investigation into congressman matt gaetz, questions about an alleged sexual relationship with a 17-year-old girl. "the new york times" reports federal investigator tors began looking at gaetz in the final

months of the trump administration vzeroing in on encounters dating back two years. they are trying to figure out if gaetz had actual relations have a girl and if he violated federal sex trafficking laws by paying for her to travel across state lines. >> we are in a battle for the soul of the republican party. >> reporter: gaetz who was 38 has not been charged with a crime and denies any wrongdoing. though according to a person familiar with the case, gaetz was shopping for a lawyer a few weeks ago approaching one major criminal defense firm in washington d.c. after news of the investigation broke, gaetz denied any wrongdoing saying over the past several weeks, my family and i are victims of an organized criminal extortion involving a former doj official seeking $25 million while threatening to smear my name.

and later on fox news talking to tucker charleston. >> the person doesn't exist. i have not had a relationship with a 17-year-old. that is totally false. >> reporter: but as gaetz rattle on, charleston was taken a back. >> that was one of the weirdest interviews i've conducted. >> reporter: during the interview gaetz expanded naming a david mcgee as the former department of justice prosecutor behind it. >> they're merely intended to bleed my family out of money and this former department of justice official tomorrow was supposed to be contacted by my father so that specific instructions could be given regarding the wiring of $4.5 million as a down payment on this bribe. >> reporter: david mcgee's law if i firm telling cnn the allegation by the congressman is false and defamatory. while with the doj he would have never entertained a scheme like congressman gaetz suggests.

cnn learned the investigation is a broader probe of a politician here in florida. ted federal authorities are investigating joel greenburg in central, florida. he was arrested last year on charges which include harassing a political opponent and sex trafficking of a minor. greenburg seen here in photos with matt gaetz has pleaded not guilty and awaiting trial. the fbi in jacksonville refused to comment to cnn on the existence or status of the investigation directing us to the department of justice, which also refused to comment. randi kaye, cnn, palm beach, county, florida. >> as randy noted, representative gaetz almost immediately went on fox news to defend himself. perspective from maggie haberman and correspondent for "the new york times" and andrew mceccabe. thanks so much to both of you tonight. andrew, so cnn has confirmed the

existence of the investigation as first reported by "the new york times" and it's also cnn's reporting that barr then attorney general was briefed on this multiple times. based on your experience, yours in the fbi if you have an investigation like this underway for that period of time and the attorney general is briefed on it, it's substantial investigation? >> yeah, it is, jim. it substantial and very serious. you know, 21 years of opening and overseeing conducting investigations, i can tell you that nobody opens a sex trafficking investigation in which the subject is a sitting member of congress without having a significant, you know, degree of information. in this case, it's likely some of that information came from the prosecution of this associate of congressman gaetz joel greenburg but that's hard to tell at this point. in any case, i can assure you the fbi doesn't take these cases lightly and don't get briefed to

the attorney general without some significant momentum behind them. >> maggie, it can be conpufusin to follow this because you have that investigation into the possibility of sex trafficking here and underaged girl. now you have this allegation gaetz saying after this investigation was started, we should be clear that the extortion story is separate from the investigation. it the information about the investigation existing, right? he's claiming he was extorted to the tune of many millions of dollars here. tell us about that, what that means, what's at the basis of it, how -- because some of that is an outlandish claim. >> look, gaetz said this publicly. he's said this related to him and his father, that this was about, you know, to he potentia locating or freeing something related to an ex fbi agent taken

captive overseas and who officials have been looking for for sometime. gaetz in his comments appears to be linking these two. i don't know of information that suggestions these are relateded in the reporting we have or other people have but that's what he is saying publicly. again, it is, as you say, very confusing to follow the threads of this and just to confuse it a little further, jim. the thing gaetz has not talked about, he hasn't been asked and maybe he has and has avoided it. he's not talked about his relationship with joel greenburg, this other official under investigation and that is something of an open question. >> no question. andrew, as you heard in randi's story, congress man gaetz went on fox news in an interview tucker carlson described as one of the strangest he's ever done. as a former investigator, first of all, is this a good idea

given the seriousness of the charges to go out there and speak in that way in a public forum? >> no, no, i think any attorney would advice you not to go on television and talk about cases you are currently the subject of or potentially the victim of. these are two very different things. the sex trafficking investigation, which apparently started many months ago and the alleged extortion, which mr. gaetz alleges happened this month, in either case, if these are -- you face great parol in the sex trafficking case and if there is extortion, you want the fbi and department to work that to a good conclusion and you certainly not by going on tucker carlson's show and say your father wore a wire against a sus

sub subject. it quite bizarre. >> congressman gaetz is a staunch and vocal ally of president trucmp. any sense how this news is being received by the president or people in his orbit? >> the only other person i can think of that i have seen handled an investigation this way is donald trump under investigation by the mueller team. but he was president. and it's a little different the protections you have as president versus anyone else. in terms of how trump and his folks are handling it, they are still processing the information. there are some people around president trump and president trump himself who like matt gaetz a lot and people wary of him in the former president's or bit, the former president's first impulse will be to want to defend him and suggest that this is political despite the fact it was bill barr under whom this investigation started. there are others around the former president who are cautioning him to wait and see what, if anything else comes out. >> understood. maggie haberman, andrew mccabe,

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it is the first lawsuit of

its kind, two capitol hill police officers who were injured during the insurrection on january 6th are now suing former president trump for inciting that crowd. his speech they allege leading to their injuries. the two say they suffered physical and emotional damage directly because of the former president's words. so far, no word from trump's lawyers. patrick malone is the attorney representing those two officers. mr. malone, your clients are the first capitol hill police officers to bring a lawsuit against the former president over the events of january 6th. i wonder, can you explain to us why do they hold the president, former president responsible? >> you know, representative cheney said he was one who assembled the mob, lit the match, fanned the flames and our guys are just regular police officers who were not just

physically hurt but just were stunned at this whole thing when they were attacked over and over and over by people who told them hey, we came from the president and you should join us. so it was very weird, weird circumstance stfor them and the think there should be some local accountability for what trump did wrong here. >> why? can you explain to us why this civil court action, it a civil case, of course, is so important to them? >> well, you know, our civil justice system is a powerful weapon for truth and for accountability. you can get a lot of discovery in a civil case that does not happen in criminal court nearly as well, the facts get laid out. we take depositions. we find out exactly what was going on in the white house when

all these veevents were happeni at the capitol and why the rioters were not called off until they hurt so many people. there is a lot the civil justice system can do and the whole idea of a lawsuit is called compensation. compensation just means balancing it out, so you balance out the harm that happened to somebody with money and money is language that this former president knows how to speak. >> i want to play some videos that chronicle what happened to several capitol police force officers. >> usa! usa! >> get back! ah! >> i don't believe we were seeing your client specifically in the footage we showed, but it does demonstrate the overall situation they and other capitol

officers, police officers faced. let me read one part of your lawsuit that describes officer hemby's injuries. he was crushed on the east side trying to hold the insurrectionists back over and over and tried to tell the insurrectionists that the doors opened out ward and pressing him into the door would do no good but the insurrectionists continued to scream, fight for trump. as you're aware, mr. malone, there is something of historical revision since that day by some republican lawmakers saying they weren't really armed, it wasn't really violent. tell us, in fact, what officer hemby endured that day. >> just relentless assault over and over and over. both officer hemby and the other plaintiff in this case described literally hours of assault. what you saw was a tiny little

snippet in the clips of what these fellows endured. it wasn't just the body blows with all sorts of weapons, flag poles, all sorts of other devices and fists but it was also hurling very violent and offensive language at them. you probably saw in our complaint how the officer was called racial slurs so many times that he couldn't even count them. >> as the suit mentions, the insurrectionists were mentioning trump by name as they did that. i wanted to describe you mentioned the other plaintiff in this. i want to quote from the suit now as to what he says happened to him that day. insurrectionists threatened him. they would f you up if you don't get out of our way and to get down or i'll put you down. the insurrectionists struck the officer in his face, head,

chest, arms and what felt like every part of his body as you say, they also hurled racial slurs against him. tell us what damage that did. >> you know, it's not just the -- it's some stranger coming up to you calling you bad language but the bewbuildering part of this they said we're on a mission. we're sent here by trump. you should be on our side. we're here to attack congress. get out of our way. >> well, patrick malone, thanks so much for taking the time tonight. appreciate hearing your and the officer's account of these events. >> yeah, good to talk to you. just ahead, breaking news about a major quality control issue at a plant involved with the johnson & johnson vaccine. the implications for the national vaccine rollout when we continue.

. breaking news tonight. a big snag for the one and done covid vaccine from johnson & johnson, telling cnn

problems at a test run at a plant in baltimore that makes one of the vaccine's ingredients, "the new york times" is reporting as many as 15 million vaccine doses could be affected. j&j does say this will not hurt its goal of delivering 20 million doses this month. the fda tells cnn it is aware of the situation, unable itself to comment further. let's get perspective on exactly had an this means from dr. selene gounder who served as a covid adviser to president biden's transition team. good to have you back. we've had only good news with vaccinations in recent weeks and months and a real acceleration to get americans vaccinated. what impact will this have? >> so, emerge enter bio solutions is this manufacturing company in baltimore that is a partner with johnson & johnson. they had an issue with mixing up vaccine ingredients at their

plant and that has compromised some estimated 15 million doses of the vaccine. now, up until now, all of the doses have been coming from a manufacturing plant in europe. so, yes, they are on target to meet their current delivery estimates for the month, but beyond that is in jeopardy. >> how unusual is this kind of thing with such a sensitive product? and will it be difficult to fix a quality control issue like this? >> look, many of us have actually been quite surprised, pleasantly surprised that things have gone so smoothly over the last couple of months with the rollout of the pfizer and moderna vaccines, and we were really anticipating more problems with production of the vaccine. so, you know, to some degree, this was to be expected. and it's surprising we didn't have a hiccup until now. >> listen, and by and large, it's working. i got my first shot today and i'm impressed with the whole process. i hesitate to say this, because i don't want to inadvertently

add to vaccine hesitancy, but it is an existing problem with some americans, and i wonder, you see something like this, what do you say to folks so they can understand the importance of this and what it means for them? >> look, i think this really speaks to the fact that the u.s. process for reviewing drugs and vaccines is the world gold standard. and it's the way we review clinical trial data, the way we vet the manufacturing plants. so, the plants that are producing the johnson & johnson vaccine up until now, they're based in the netherlands in europe. they've received that stamp of approval from the u.s. government regulators and so whatever makes it to people here on the ground in the u.s. is fully vetted vaccine. >> understood. that's why you have quality control. finally on the good news side, we learned this week that the pfizer vaccine is 100% effective for young people between the

ages of 12 and 15. it's amazing to say that. impact there? because, of course, that brings up the idea of vaccinations before the start of the new school year. >> this is incredibly important. these vaccines are shown to be effective not just in preventing disease and death, which are pretty rare in younger people, but also in preventing infections, so essentially that carrier state where you have no symptoms. this means if you vks nate young people being they're highly unlikely to be transmitting onwards to adults, and that's great news. >> absolutely. dr. celine gounder, thank you so much. just ahead, nypd has now arrested a suspect in a vicious attack on an asian-american woman caught on video. alarming to see. we'll have the details of that arrest when "360" continues.

police in new york have now arrested a suspect on a vicious assault on an elderly asian

american woman. elliott is now facing two counts of assault as a hate crime. it was caught outside a building in midtown manhattan. building owners released a new statement saying the two lobby workers remain suspended pending investigation, and the company is committed to strengthening internal training. you see them just standing by there. news continues. let me hand it over to my f friend, chris cuomo, "prime time." >> that guy was out on parole after killing his own mother. >> yeah. >> how did that happen? there are a lot of explanations for how he was on the street, how it was handled on the street and why this keeps happening. jim, appreciate you doing the story. i am chris cu. mo and this is "prime time." the whole world is watching the george floyd murder trial and today we heard from his accused killer for the fir time. derek chauvin is cau