a devoted husband and father. his daughter stacey says he was also funny, intelligent and also very humble. may they rest in peace. may their memories be a blessing. thanks very much for watching. i am wolf blitzer in "the situation room," erin burnett with "out front" starts right now. the former house speaker john boehner says trump incited the insurrection. perpetrated by trump's b.s. derek chauvin claiming those famous words of george floyd's "i can't breathe" resisting arrest. matt gaetz saw a pardon from trump. would you do that if you had not done anything wrong? let's go "out front." good evening, i am erin burnett.

out front tonight, one of the people charged after storming the u.s. capitol agreed to help the justice department in its case against the proud boys' leadership. according to an attorney familiar to the case, it could lead to more severe charges against those allegedly involved in the insurrection. that comes with grave charges for anyone blamed for the insurrection. john boehner is putting the blame on trump for the deadly attack. boehner writes in his book. "trump incited that bloody insurrection for nothing more than selfish reasons, per

perpetuated b.s." again, to be clear of the significance of this. the former republican speaker calling the insurrection actual terrorism brought on my members of his own party. people he served with like congressman brooks. our ancestors sacrificed their sweat and tears and blood and their lives. in america it is the greatest nation in the world's history. af qu i have a question for you. are you willing to do this same? today is the day america's patriots start taking down names and kicking ass. that's what they did. that's brooks.

the same man trump endorsed today for the u.s. seat. what he said to the trump's crowd on insurrection day at the washington mall on insurrection day. trump says today about brooks, few republicans have as much of courage to fight for. trump is not the only one trying to whitewash the event of that insurrection day. tucker carlson thinking the insurrection was no big deal. >> they did not have guns but a lot of them had extreme ideas. some of them made claims.

they e the last election was not fair. >> did you watch what happened that day? those were not the ideas they were talking about. >> we want pence. >> we want pence. >> bring out pence. >> bring out pence! >> oh, nancy. oh, nancy. where are you, nancy? were looking for you nancy. >> and it was not just talk. they had a noose that they put near the capitol grounds. they didn't have guns. the only dangerous was their ideas? a police officer was killed. 140 police officers were injured. an officer lost an eye. another lost the tip of their right index finger and now we are hearing they didn't have guns and all these dangerous

things were ideas like the constitution? are you kidding me? all of this happened because of the big lie the election somehow was not fair. john boehner calls it b-s. he's right on that. i can't believe they're repeating such basic facts than this that the election was fair? >> we were not aware of widespread evidence of voter fraud that would affected the outcome of the presidential election. >> we have not seen widespread voter fraud. >> remember when bill barr told the press quote, "we have not seen any fraud in the election." >> three months later they're still pushing it trying to cloak in the only dangerous thing that were there talking about was the constitution. jim acosta is out front live in washington. jim, you covered trump four

years in the white house and his campaign. by his actions today he comes out and endorses mo brooks. it is clear he has not learned any lessons from it. >> of course. he does not think he needs to learn any lessons. that's very clear of what you laid out a few moments ago. getting back to where donald trump, this is somebody speaking on january 6th as you were pointing out. i talked to trump's adviser who says this was a mistake for trump to endorse mo brooks. it is going to remind people what happened on january 6th. let's go back to the boehner's book. it is a perfect illustration of what's going on. yes, the former speaker says he's responsible for the insurrection on january 6th, i talked to a gop operative put it

very well earlier today. republican party is not listening to john boehner. republican party is looking to donald trump. boe b look at what's taking place at mar-a-lago. donald trump is going to speak at the retreat on saturday evening. he's going to be a long side many other leading figures inside the republican party and it is just another shining example, disturbing example that much of the republican party has not backed away from donald trump. they are enabling donald trump. no, he has not learned any lessons from january 6th. much of the party is making sure of that. >> they're behind him >> jim acosta, thank you very much. i want to go to matthew doud and

kathleen blue. so thank you both for being with us. matt, let met start with you, boehner says trump caused republican senate in 2020 which should not be a controversial thing just ask any republican in georgia. now trump is endorsing a candidate in the senate primary race. a candidate who was there with him on the podium of the insurrection spreading the big lie, how significance is this? >> to me there is a huge problem. donald trump represents the effect of the problem. i would not say donald trump was the proximate cause of the election. it is really a much bigger thing which the republican party today. this is the first time in american history where the white supremacy movement on january 6th has fully taken over one of the legacy parties in america.

this is the first time. we had others and george wallace and the independent party and the no-nothing movement and elements of the south which we had white supremacy and apart of the confederacy. never have we been completely taken over. why? that's where the voters are. america has many great things. the soil of america, part of the soil of america, this is in the soil of america and what was different today is we have one legacy party that's completely adopted it which is a minority of the country but it is powerful along with one major cable network. we never had it before in america. >> we had lelements of it and pockets of it. >> kathleen, let me ask you the cable network, tucker carlson is a smart guy with a giant platform and a large audience. i don't know why he would say

something like that. he's putting out there. nothing dangerous about these people. gosh, they did not have guns. they had some ideas, right? it is false. how dangerous is all this? >> it is incredibly dangerous. i think this is a particularly bolder vision comes not very long after an event that we all watched and it is hard to make the argument that they had no guns. people had a few guns and they stashed in their backpacks and they had arsenals in their home. people who had zip ties who were on their way to kidnap and harm legislatures. these groups are beginning to turn on each other that were going to begin to get information that'll let us see what history indicated very

likely. these groups are inter connected and there was an attack on our democracy. we know that's what they have been doing because that's what they have been doing for decades and if not generations. although january 6th was not intended by a mass casualty attack, that'll be the next step. it is critical that we act now. >> matt, let me ask you, you talk about -- boehner has come out and blamed president trump, the republican party taken over by whack job. let me give you a statistic here. congressman marjorie taylor green says her reelection campaign raised $3.2 million.

this is more than four times what the far-left wing raised in her first three months. does money talk and does it tell you everything you need to know about where the power center is and quote, "for the gop." money represents where the base of the party is. i think the idea that these establishments that's pointed out don't represent the republican party. they represent the republican party. that's who marjorie taylor green, my guess is far more popular than boehner is. that's where the republican party is. it is not just a pocket of people and a few here and there. it is the base of the republican party. i want to take out something else kathleen, i want to add on something kathleen said. this is not the first time where a lie has been produced inside

the after math of something we all saw within our own eyes in the after math of this and it is somehow being spawned into some my myths and statics. it happened after the civil war. we all know what the civil war was about. it was about slavery with reuniting the country. what happened after the civil war? the same elements that are routed in the same thing started their own narrative which is this lost cause narrative that it was not about slavery. it was about state's rights and southern traditions. that narrative played out for more than 100 years. it surfaced again in the midst of civil rights. republicans who care still cares, they have to understand the days of pointing out those people don't represent it. that's the republican party. i would put some of this on boehner. this did not start in 2016. it started long before donald trump showed up on the scene and boehner did nothing about it as it grew. >> let me ask you about that

kathleen, you got boehner coming out now whatever trump was shoving this load of b-s. was -- could swomeone like boehner make a difference had he spoken out sooner? >> that's a great question. but none of this is dead. the lost cause narrative is very much alive. we saw the confederate flag in the capitol building on january 6th. the confederate flag is no longer an inherit symbol. as you indicated is it is very complex even sort of benign

versions. we are dealing with the kind of politics that's fragmented and where that flag symbolized to people who don't have relationships with the lost cause. we are talking about a kind of fragmentation that's shaping not only their fringe but extremist group as it did in the earlier period. this is a concern to all of us. >> next, what george floyd said on the day of his death? >> george's secretary of state, raffensberger, how he can stand up to trump? and covid cases trending in the wrong direction as the cdc

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at the dense defense argued floyd was resisting arrest. sara sidner is out front. >> whether the force used as shown in exhibit 254, whether that force being applied for the restraint period which you define as 9 minutes 29 seconds constitute deadly force. >> yes. >> what is that? >> that it would. >> it would be possible for a loud group to distract the defendant from being attentive to george floyd, tis that right >> yes. >> do you believe that it occur? >> no, i do not. >> why is that? >> because you can hear mr. floyd explaining his discomfort and pain and you can also hear

the defendant responding to him. >> my neck hurts. >> uh-huh. >> everything hurts. ah. i need water or something. please. please. i can't believe, officer. >> relax. >> reporter: when putting pressure on someone's body who's lying on his stomach. body camera video shows chauvin used pain compliance even after floyd stopped resisting. >> it is a technique that the officer uses to get the subject comply with their demands. >> have you testified in any court or any state court as an expert on the police course? >> no, i have not. >> reporter: eric nelson argued

the crowd was a distraction to floyd. >> i am sorry. >> does it sound like i ate too many drugs? >> i can't make it out, no. >> reporter: the next witness, the special agent who inves investigated -- >> did it appear that he said "i ate too many drugs". >> no. the s.w.a.t. collected from that pill, i obtained the dna profile that matches george floyd. >> the defense made a point of questioning several of the witnesses about those pills that

were found inside and not only the squad car but also inside the suv where george floyd was first taken from. we heard from a chemist, tested some of those pills and she says there were levels of fentanyl in some of the pills and levels of methamphetamine. though she says the level of fentanyl were low in some of those pills and methamphetamine as well. >> sarah, thank you very much. i appreciate it. i want to go to one of the attorneys for floyd's. i appreciate you coming on. >> defense argued what when floyd yelled out "i can't breathe." the suggestion was this was something that people do and people say to argabargain with officers to let them go. >> it is an argument. it does not take away from the fact that the use of force is excessive and it turned out to

be deadly. whether or not george was trying to get out of the situation he was in, does not take away from the fact that derek chauvin kneeled on his neck for such a period of time as to cause h is death. everything else from the drug use, that's just a defense, that's something of a distraction in order for us to take the jury's attention away. >> i think it is significance how you answer that question. we heard prosecutors address other point that is the defense have been making repeatedly. you have seen this. the whole question of chauvin's knee. did they try to move it at different times? maybe it was on the shoulder blade when the ambulance arrived or maybe it was on the shoulder blade and not on his neck. here is what they said today. >> is the risk related to the pressure on the neck or the pressure on the body?

>> the pressure on the body. any additional pressure on the body complicates breathiing mor so if there was no pressure at all. >> the placement of the knee and even if it can be shifting between the base of the neck, the point is both of the defendant's knees were on mr. floyd's body during the entire restraint period, is that right? > >> yes. >> that was the prosecution. i am not a lawyer but what it sounds like they're trying to say maybe admitting the jury may have questions about chauvin's knee not on the neck the whole time. well, if it was not there the whole time it does not matter. why did you think they felt they did that? could there be a fog for the jury? how do you interpret this? >> we need to interpret it in

totality here. the testimony have friday to monday it was water testing testimonies. you had police officers within the department in which the officer is being accused of saying that the use of force was never trained that way. it would not have been tolerated and certainly excessive and could cause death. and the chief arradondo set an example for policing in america on this, cracking the blue line and the code of silence here by coming out and speaking against one of his own officers. >> let me ask you one other point the lapd was asked of floyd's initial resistance when the officer tried to put him in

the car. here is the exchange. 3 >> officer chauvin theoretically acted resistance, he could have come up to tase him, that would be within the active resistance strasuggling e of force. . >> yes. >> he didn't do that? >> no, he did not. >> sometimes an officer have to back down of their use? >> yes, in certain situation. >> they're trying to say chauvin held back on his use of force. >> i don't buy it. the death came when chauvin was kneeling on him and the other officers were also kneeling on his back, causing him not to breathe and cutting off his circulation and cutting off his breathing and cutting off his air way.

the fact that chauvin did not use a certain amount of force in order to subdue george before that has nothing to do with what caused his death. he didn't die when they were trying to subdue him when he was inside the car. he died when he was on the street and they tortured him not only with the knee on the neck and the knees on the back but also with small joint manipulation. this was a 9 minute and 29 seconds torture, a slow death that never should have happened. that knee should never have been on his neck. >> i appreciate your time. president trump still attacking the georgia secretary of state, raffensperger is out front next. congressman matt gaetz had trump's back but does trump still have his back? teddy bears here!

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she was arrested while protesting the state's controversial voting law. voter identification rier requirements. and makes it a crime to give out water or food to voters waiting in line. out front now ben raffensperger, so much to talk to you about. i want to talk about mayor bottoms, she's not the last mayor in your state who's going to counter the effect of this law. do you think any effort like hers will have an impact? >> and so we'll be looking at that on the upcoming elections coming up this fall in 2021. >> so this election bill was signed into law as some of the top voices on the right and as you know are still giving air to

the falsehoods, the lie that the election was stolen from trump. they're still going doing this the last five months. here is trump himself and tucker carlson on fox news. >> if you look at the numbers, the numbers were vastly in favor of us and the presidential election. it was disgraceful that they were able to get away with it. >> yeah, they didn't have guns but a lot of them had extremely dangerous ideas. they talked about the constitutions and something called their rights. some of them made openly seditious claims. the last election was not entirely fair. >> mr. secretary, you said the election was fair in georgia. that's a fact. what do you say to trump and others. th what do you say to trump and

others and people that the lie of the election is stolen and somehow is not being fair is true. >> in georgia we had a fair and honest election. at the end of the day president trump came up short. that two months or three months of misinformation took a shot in the confidence of our election. i support the measure to use driver's license number and your birthday. it is objective instead of subjective like signature match. >> a couple of points. you were one of the loudest republican voice in the country to push back against trump and his lie that the election was stolen. i will never forget how you stood up to the president himself when he tried to pressure you and other officials in your state to over turn the

election results. let me remind people part of your conversation with the president. >> the people of georgia are angry. the people of the country are angry and there is nothing wrong of saying that, you know, that you recalculated. >> well, mr. president, the data that you have is wrong. we talked to the congressman and they were surprised but -- i guess there is a person named mr. braynard who came to these meetings and presented data. the actual number were two. two, two people that were dead that voted and so that's wrong. >> so you took him on directly. >> the law that you have in georgia, it takes you on directly. i removes you as chairman and it now gives that power to the state legislature to appoint the majority of the election board. i want people to understand how

significance this may be. when you stood up to the president and said those things were false. there were people in your state on your state legislature who soisks them called for a special session to overturn the results and doing what trump wanted. this new bill would do what trump wanted. is that a problem? >> i agree so. it didn't matter if it was a democrat or republican secretary of state. putting an unelect pered person that's in charge of that. how is it going to be any accountable? i am accountable to the voters and having me as the chair of the election board ensures that voters have compaccountability.

unelection board should not have that amount of power. it is a dangerous presicedent ty are setting right now. >> there is something else i want to ask you about. the lieutenant governor of your state jeff duncan told me the other day that he was also concerned of the laws banning the distribution of food and water at polling places. here is how he said it. >> you know there is two sides to the water and food and line. i understand the technicalities. i thought the timing was insensitive and not timely. >> so he says hit is incentive and not timely. do you agree? >> yes. i agree with his position. we had people where their campaigns approaching the 150 foot zone around the precincts. they're handing out water and snacks but at the same time

there are also doing elec electionering. it was not put out there and explained properly. that was the genesis of that and it is now incorporated into the law. the precinct workers can hand out water. that could be done in a non-partisan way. >> as all of this is happening and you are talking about the damage that's been done and with everything of trump and the lie, that they are still saying. trump is now still out there attacking you personally and the law. he put out a statement and it says georgia's reform laws are far too weak and soft. governor brian kemp and georgia secretary of state should eliminated no excuse widespread mass mail-in voting.

i hope the rinos are happy. mr. secretary, what do you say to former president trump? the vast majority of your party still believes what he says. >> the state of georgia has been sued by the republican party and the democrat party over signature match. i find his comment interesting. we are moving away from that. it is a subjective method of doing voter identification and now we are moving to an objective means. this is what's being used in blue states and red states. it is a bipartisan measure. so that's something i support. >> can i ask you one question before you go mr. secretary? >> this is something i want to ask you. i heard that phone call between you and the president.

he said up to 5,000 dead people and you paused and you said the actual number was two, two people dead voted so that's wrong. what went through your mind and he repeated that false thing and you are thinking what do i say right now? >> i had to get back to the actual facts that two people that have died. all the numbers that president trump said and his team, we wrote it to congress. they were probably busy and did not have a chance to read it. it was a point by point rebuttal and posted on the secretary of state's website. none of their facts correct. finally sidney powell admitted in one of their filings. >> no sane person would believer any of the lies. it was one of the most incredible defenses i have

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we are learning new details of the pardon . the white house never seriously considered gaetz's request. the new york times reports it was unclear whether gaetz knew about the specifics and whether he had a sexual relationship with a 17-years-old girl. i been wondering why someone would ask for a blanket pardon if one had not done anything wrong. trump says his people would not ask for a pardon. brian nobles out front.

>> reporter: president trump sometimes raises his voice and a ruckus. he knows that's what it takes to raise an army of patriots who love america and will protect her. >> reporter: the florida congressman went out his way to attach himself to trump as demonstrated in the hbo's documentary, "the swamp." mr. president, it is matt gaetz. i don't need anything, sir, just calling to tell you that you did a great job today. don't let these people take you down. we are going to keep fighting for you. >> reporter: gaetz defending trump even when some republicans were unwilling. >> my fellow patriots, don't be shy and sorry, join me as we proudly represent the protrump, america's first wing of the conservative movement. >> reporter: the congressman is so connected with the former president and he met and

proposed to his fiance at mar-a-lago and surrounded by trump's allies. gaetz spent a lot of times cozying up to ivanka. >> she toll me she liked my shoes. >> reporter: and don jr. >> like he did when he traveled to wyoming. >> how about a word for donald trump jr.? >> reporter: while gaetz done everything he can to support trump. the former president has been less than passionate. none of the trump's children offered any public support for gaetz. trump is being advised to stay away from the gaetz's scandal. >> reporter: there is an open question as to gaetz's political future and as soon as next week.

he had an open proxy vote or it is not clear if gaetz will be back to washington and there is his relationship with lea leade leaderships. erin, mccarthy's office won't say if that meeting has happened. i ryan thank you very much. >> what could this mean for all of us if hundreds of millions of people are not going to get the vaccine now. the top putin's critic, navaln y

tonight t the cdc director warning the veariant discovered in the u.k. associated with a higher risk of death is officially the dominant strain in the u.s. this comes as the numbers in col covid cases and hospitalizations are rising. look at the seven-day average since inauguration day. you can see, they are now rising for the first time since biden took office. dr. sanjay gupta is "outfront" and sanjay, we see the surge in

vaccinations and yet, cases are rising over the past few weeks, hospitalizations are now starting to tick up. how do you put these two things together? >> well, i think we're at this inflection point in this race. everyone referred to the race of the vaccines against the var variants. i think we've actually known that the b.1.1.7, the u.k. variant is dominant for sometime. they are just proving this now. there say lag time in testing. if you look at some of the state of thes michigan and florida and georgia, there are high rates of the b.1.1.7 and we've seen the numbers go up there. erin, i'll tell you, if you look across the country, about 65,000 cases, it's up a bit but it's mostly flat compared to last week. hospitalizations, as you mentioned, 2.67% up, up but not

as much but the death rate is 21% down, which is good. now, that's a lagging thing, so it may be an uptick there, as well but i don't think we'll see the proportional deaths, the proportional hospitalizations to the case. when it comes to the dominant variant, whether you've been infected in the past and have antibodies because of that or you've been vaccinated, in both cases it offers good immunity against this variant so that will be helpful. >> for this one and there are other variants and we don't know what we don't know. i don't want to say putting that aside but one other crucial thing today. this is the astrazeneca vaccine. european drug regulators confirmed a link between the astrazeneca covid vaccine and rare blood clots. they confirmed the link and now the u.k. is saying people under 30 don't get that vaccine, get a different one. here is the thing, though,

sanjay, astrazeneca was going to deliver 3 billion doses by the end of this year. 70 countries it's already authorized in. this is the vaccine for europe, india, philippines. i mean, this is massive that what kind of impact does this have? >> i'm worried about this, erin. you know, this is concerning in part for all the reasons you're mentioning, which is the optics of this hadn't been good. this is a trial halted. there are concerns about blood cl clots and a concern that caused the halting out of the u.k. and misrepresenting data and another sort of issue that's come up. it's rare, as you point out. 25 million people got vaccinated. 86 people developed these blood clots. 70% of them developed it in the brain. you know, the rest developed it in the abdomen but 17 people died. again, out of those 25 million. at first, they said it doesn't seem like there is a connection. now the european medical agency says well, we think there may be a connection here but the

benefits still out weigh the risks or they're still recommending the vaccine. the u.k. regulatory authority says we're still recommending it unless you're under the age of 30. which i thought was interesting. i want to show you this graph real quick if i can, erin, from the study. basically, when you try to authorize these things, it's risk versus reward. for people younger, 20, 29, 30 to 39, the risk and benefit is very similar. so that's why the u.k. folks said hey, no, we're not going to recommend this for people under the age of 30. so that's where we are and i think it will have an impact on this vaccine around the world. >> certainly has in people's willingness to take it, which is crucial when you talk about very yanlts and things spreading. dr. sanjay gupta, thank you. the white house saying it's disturbed quote by reports the health of top putin opponent alexi navalny is atdeterioratin.

he's dealing with two hernias, a loss of feeling in both hands. the white house is sending this message to moscow. >> we urge russian authorities to take all necessary actions to ensure his safety and health so long as he is in prison the russian government is responsible for his health and well being. >> press secretary went on to demand russia release navalny immediately. no sign of such thing occurring. matthew chance is "outfront". you've been to the penal colony itself. navalny's health sounds dire. >> reporter: it does. the couple things that are most concerning, first of all, he's got this these minor health issues, which we keep on itemizing but there is a general background picture, which is really concerning. he was poisoned with a military grade nerve agent last august so there is a possibility that, i mean, obviously, we'll need a medical professional to look at this but a possibility this

could be linked with a neurological damage. that's the concern with the legal team and medical team and his supporters. so that's one of the reasons why they want, you know, a specialist to go into that penal colony and give hem aim a thoro examination. the kremlin and russian authorities don't appear to be taking his medical condition seriously at all. first of all, they're down playing it releasing video on state television showing him walking across his dorm, showing him soundly sleeping in his bed at night after he complained about being waken every night like torture. there is a campaign on russian state media to say look, it's not as bad as navalny is making out. it's being exaggerated. i think that's very concerning, as well. authorities are just not taking it seriously.

>> matthew, thank you. appreciate it. of course, everything matthew says so crucial when you think of two of the doctors who work at the hospital where navalny was originally treated for that poisoning have died since then. and now here he is with these very severe illnesses. thanks for joining us, anderson starts now. good evening. another significant day in the derek chauvin murder trial. another turbulent day for the dvr defense's attempt to suggest george floyd was killed by the drugs in his system and preexisting conditions, anything but derek chauvin's neck. the testimony for the defense was turned around by the prosecution. again, tonight a lot to talk about with our legal and forensic team but omar jimenz. >> reporter: today's testimony, more cops taking the stand against former officer derek chauvin. >> in your