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confidential help line, the number is 1-800-662-help, the government says that last year the number of calls they received was 27% more than the year before the coronavirus pandemic began. the news continues right now, i'm going to hand it over to chris for cuomo prime time. >> appreciate it. we are following events in minnesota tonight. it is a police of protest again after another police shooting leaves a black man dead. you're looking live at the situation in brooklyn center, minnesota. now, here is the situation. there is a curfew in effect, and the police have been in a standoff. they are out now, and the question is how do they disperse the crowd, and the crowd is an interesting mixment we're going to go there on the ground with the shimon peres as soon as he is ready, we're going to come back to him, get him on there, talk about who is in that crowd, what the police are doing, and let's discuss why. the reason that the twin cities are bracing for more anger in the streets tonight is because of this most recent shooting on
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top of the tension created by the murder trial of george floyd. so we're going to go there and show you what's happening, but we have to talk about why first, unless something happens. three separate policing cases have this country on edge. latest that is the cause of the latest protest is about a young man, 20 years old, daunte w wright. he was killed after being shot by police after a traffic stop just ten miles from where george floyd's murderer is on trial. police say he was pulled over for an expired registration. that's a nothing situation. it's a traffic stop. in checking his i.d., they noticed wright had an outstanding misdemeanor warrant, not a felony warrant. so now what happens? it is all on tape, the facts are still emerging, but the key moment is captured on police body cam that was released today. i'm told to warn you the video may be disturbing, but if you
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>> they just shot him. >> oh, wow. >> that's about a minute of footage. there is a lot to unpack. you see wright drives off, then crashes his car. you hear the female officer, not the one who was in the window originally who was male. it's her body camera. you hear her shouting taser, taser, taser a few times after a strug g struggle. the officer uses an expletive and says i shot him. the chief of police says he thinks this was a deadly weapon mix-up. >> it is my belief that the officer had the intention to deploy their taser but instead shot mr. wright with a single bullet. this appears to me from what i viewed and the officer's reaction and distress immediately after that this was an accidental discharge. >> how easy is it to make that kind of mistake. we have insight for you on that tonight.
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a medical examiner just ruled it was a homicide, meaning it is the bullet fired by the police officer that is to blame for the 20-year-old dying, not the car crash. so did she grab the wrong weapon from the holster? we're going to go through each step and what the video shows, what the police did and whether it makes sense. now, we don't know the name of the officer yet, but we do know she's a veteran and now placed on administrative leave. that's one case on top of george floyd in the same community. now, in another case that is roiling country out of swvirgin we do know the names of the officers involved. one was just fired. again, it may be disturbing to some, but it is the reality. >> that's [ bleep ] up. >> get out of the car now. >> take your seat belt off and
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get out of the car. you made this way more difficult than it had to be. get on the ground, get on the ground. >> can you please talk to me about what's going on. can you please talk to me about what's going on. why am i being treated like this? >> because you're not cooperating. get on the ground. >> lay down, you're going to guess tased. >> the back story, the man on the ground a uniformed black army lieutenant had a gun pointed at him. was pepper sprayed as you saw, that was the liquid. they pulled him over for a traffic stop. this happened back in december. the incident is just coming to light because it was caught on tape and the tape was released. the man's name is caron nazario, and he's suing virginia police and one of the officers involved has been fired as i told you. police argue that this was a high risk stop. why? because when they recognized the vehicle for not having a plate, it was a new vehicle. there was a temporary plate on the window. the windows were dark, they say
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the army lieutenant disregarded the lights and sirens and did not pull over and continued to drive for some distance. there's a lot more to the story and the case ahead. but first, let's go back to minnesota and get to the streets there. we have shimon prokupecz is live in brooklyn center, minnesota, that's where protests were. there was a lot of anger. now there's a curfew effect, and the police had walked outside the station the last time we saw the shot. now let's see it now. >> reporter: yeah, so chris, now these officers, state troopers as you can see have surrounded the perimeter, the outside perimeter of the police station. this was an area that was a flash point last night between the protesters and the police, and you can see for the most part right now a lot of the protesters are pretty close to many of the officers having conversations with them, but it's been relatively peaceful. but this entire area around the precinct here, the police station is surrounded by
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protesters. there's another group all the way in the distance where i was before also standing around closer to the fence. there the difference is that the police are actually, as you can see, behind the fence, and so far they have told them to disperse. but again, we are about an hour after the curfew and still the police have not made any arrests. obviously, chris, one of the biggest concerns here for the police is that the protesters and people will try to attack the police station, and that is what they're trying to right now keep people back from and sort of protect their home, right? it's their property they're trying to protect. that is what we're seeing here now. there are hundreds, if not thousands of police officers out here at the moment. >> shimon, there are a lot more people. who are you seeing in that crowd? it looks like a very mixed crowd to me. i see some black men and women there, they look younger to me. there are a lot of young white faces as well. do we know if these are people
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coming in from out of town. is this a big combination of people from the community? what have you found out? >> reporter: it is a big combination of people from the community. it is a mixed crowd. at the vigil where i was earlier around 7:00, there were -- it was a very mixed crowd. his family was there. a lot of the people who were at the vigil, i am seeing some of their faces here now. it would seem that many of the people who are here are local people. but as you said, chris, ist is very mixed crowd. and most of them right now though they are in this faceoff with police, the police have been fairly restrained. there was a couple of moments where it seemed that the police were going to make some arrests or try to disperse the crowd and people ran away, but for the most part, as you can see, a lot of people are just standing around. there's music playing, and the police right here at this location for now are allowing them to remain on the street. we'll see as this goes through the night if this continues.
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last night as we know, there was a very different scene here, but the police are ready. there are a lot of cops here, and of course last night there was tear gas and rubber bullets and other things that a lot of the people who were here last night reported seeing and hearing. i have seen police officers here with tear gas, so they're at the ready if it's necessary. but so far, chris, it's been pretty peaceful and just a lot of talking and a lot of them just standing around and talking. >> i mean, looking at the people behind you, shimon, it's not as tense as things we've seen in the past. hopefully it stays that way. people speak their peace. they let their feelings be known, angry or otherwise, but it doesn't become anything violent. now, we're supposed to have the mayor, mayor michael yaelliott brooklyn center. interestingly we heard he had the report of something on the ground, i wanted to ask shimon, if we can get him back, we
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understand that the mayor has fired the city manager. now, the way that brooklyn center, minnesota, is set up, the mayor doesn't have direct authority over the police department, a city manager does. this may be that way in your community as well. different municipalities set it up differently, and the mayor had been very upset after george floyd, had criticized legislative efforts on the state level that they wouldn't make a difference, as he said. they would not have saved george floyd or kept george floyd from being killed. he's arguing for more legislation and more control. so today he fired the city manager, which is his way of getting direct control over the police department. this comes in the midst where the police chief was very emotional while talking about the latest shooting. there were also calls for his ouster. the mayor is supposed to be on with us right now, but of course the job comes first, and
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supposedly he had to respond to a situation on the ground. if he can come through on the phone or otherwise we'll get him in to explain why he did what he did and what we can figure out. shimon, let me just get a quick take from you. the situation seems fairly stable right now where you are. are you aware of the mayor firing the city manager and what the political dynamic is at play there in terms of what to do after the shooting? >> reporter: yeah, i have not heard anything about that, chris, but i can tell you that it did seem that the mayor here wanted to take control of the police department and have control over the next moves specifically. so as you're seeing here, because if the mayor is running this police department now, he would have to give the order for these -- for the protesters to disperse. in essence, he would have to tell the police to give the order. that could be why perhaps we're not seeing that. it's an interesting dynamic when you have a mayor who seemingly
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has no law enforcement experience is now running this police department, and that's going to be interesting to see how, chris, that plays out. as you see, so i just want to show you this scene here, chris. this is the other side from where we were earlier, and this is where there's a lot of dispensing and a lot of the officers over here are behind the fencing. and you can see in the distance, so there are officers that are standing back there so that if there is an order to disperse given, they will move forward, and someone just threw a bottle at one of the officers. and that's what's sort of been happening here. we will see these officers come out from the back. they would come forward, some of the protesters would then move away or run away, but right now we're still seeing the police stand back, and then we're seeing these other officers here also just standing around at this point and watching the crowd and obviously the crowd watching them and chanting.
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but it would seem to your point, chris, that if the mayor is now in charge of this, of this police department that what we saw last night when the police chief would have given the dispersal order and declared this a riot and then the officers were then using tear gas and other methods to disperse the crowd, it would probably be at this point up to the mayor to make that decision. >> right. >> also, i just -- there's a, you know, a whole community here as well that i think it's important to point out. people live over here, and you can see all the people here behind me here as well, chris. a lot of people, there's a lot of people out here. and most of them are just standing around at this point waiting to really see how much longer this can go and at what point will the police disperse them. >> it's also interesting what instructions -- >> doesn't appear to be the case. >> as you indicated earlier, it's also important who's
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calling the shots. clearly the police there are in a protect posture. they have the chain link fence up, the cyclone fence, and they want to protect the building. that's what they're doing. they're not being as agrezive as they could. the law is on their side. there's a curfew in effect. it makes you wonder is mayor mic mike elliott telling the police to stand down or is this the police chief makiing the call. we were supposed to have the mayor on the show. his insight is needed and hopefully when he gets an opportunity if it's not with us, it's somewhere else because these calls make a big difference. what are the police going to do tonight? there is a curfew in effect. if they come out, they're encountering a lot of people. those calls make a difference. we will say with shimon prokupecz and on the streets of brooklyn center if something happens that we need to show you, i'll get right back to it.
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again, mr. mayor, mayor elliott, if you or one of your staffers can call in and explain the situation, you got to do your job. all respect and understand that. i'd like to get the word out so people can understand what's happening in your community. now, when we come back, we'll take a quick break. we're going to go to the daunte wright shooting. body cam footage is absolutely necessary. it is a must these days, and remember, it wasn't so long ago that we almost never had them in a case. we can go through this step by step to figure out what happened and how the police made their choices along the way. we're going to do that here and in virginia. spring pepper spray, was that right? we're going to have a police veteran look at both tapes, give us what the training says next. and offers personalized cleaning suggestions for a clean unique to you and your home.
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implications of the shooting death of 20-year-old daunte wright. the question is what was right and wrong in this situation? we have the benefit of body camera footage from what happened in minnesota and in virginia, the case involving the army lieutenant, a traffic stop, the police wound up pepper spraying him. they wound up not even arresting him, giving him no tickets but threatening him not to say anything about what happened. all right, so we're going to go through both of them with a former baltimore deputy police commissioner, anthony barksdale, good to have you. >> thank you, chris. thanks for having me. >> i want to do this two ways. i want to show the incident and stop it right where the altercation begins. let's take that as one piece, and you take us through the right thing to do in this situation, what you see, what you don't, ask then we'll take it in the moment of crisis. so here is the first piece of footage of the stop once they've checked the registration. they see he has an outstanding
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misdemeanor warning. how do you feel about arrest on an expired registration and outstanding misdemeanor warrant? >> to me it's no big deal. if the kid had left the scene, so be it. him dying from this wasn't worth it. >> but their decision to arrest him for the outstanding misdemeanor warrant, is that the right thing to do? >> yes, a warrant is a live document until served. >> okay. so yes, the officers with the warrant being live unserved, yes, proceeding was right. >> even for the misdemeanor. okay. so now let's watch what happens.
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>> tase him! tase him! i just shot him. >> oh, wow. >> you know, it's interesting there, anthony. it's also fricken horrible, but you actually don't hear the gunshot, but you do hear the young man reacting to getting hit, the medical examiners ruled it a homicide. he would drive off and hit another car. there was an accident. they tried to resuscitate him at the scene, but now the finding is it's the bullet that killed him, not the car crash.
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so he tries to get back into the car. what are you supposed to do when somebody in this situation is trying to get back into the car? >> measure the situation. do you push the situation? could you just let him go? you already know who he is. you know you got the warrants on him. you got the address. you got the license plate. you know the car that you stopped him in. if you run that license plate, you got a house to dgo to. you've got an owner you can pull up and say, hey, he was operating your vehicle. so if he did get away, it's really no big deal. you can find him again. he's not unknown to officers. >> so totally understood, it's not an anonymous situation. now the question becomes, well, what if they were worried that him getting into the car was to get a weapon. now you see on the video we have a piece of video isolated that shows his hands on the wheel, but it is -- he's obviously trying to drive, i mean, but maybe it wasn't obvious in that
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moment, and if you think he maybe is trying to get a weapon, was going for a taser the right thing to do? >> no way. you have to meet force with equal force. pulling a taser, if you thought he was going for a gun doesn't work. if he's going for a gun and you want to try to pull that one and say, oh, he's reaching for a gun, then you better have your gun out. it's gun for gun. you don't use a taser if you think someone is going for a weapon on you. >> all right, so let me do this, anthony. let me jump right back onto the streets of minnesota, commissioner. then i'll come back to you. something's happening right now, and we'll continue the analysis. i want to go back to shimon prokupecz. there's a change in the status on the streets. shimon. >> yeah, so chris, i'm just -- i'm here, chris, can you hear me? >> i can. what's going on? >> reporter: i'm just trying to stay to the side here so you can see. so the police have now fired several of those pepper balls to
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try and get the crowd to move back. they were moving towards the fence. they were throwing some objects towards the police, and then you can see the police there, they're sort of setting up, but several of them had fired pepper balls at this crowd. you know, we can feel it. we can taste it. we can sort of feel it in our eyes, and now at this point the police are just standing back trying to figure out what they're going to do next. they also made an announcement for the crowd to disperse, that there's a curfew in effect, but so far, chris, as you can see, nothing has changed here. they're all still here despite the fact that the police had fired those pepper balls at them. the crowd is still remaining here in what is a standoff at this point with police, chris. >> do they seem to have the equipment or the manpower, shimon, to go out there and push that crowd back?
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>> reporter: so it's hard to tell. certainly they have -- they brought in another vehicle kind of like a humvee as you can see here. this was not here before. they brought that out, so that is out here now. there are many, many more officers from what i can see in the back. we have seen some come towards the front here. they're kind of staying in the back, ask nd then they'll be brought out closer to the fence here. so it would seem that if the police needed to move in, they can. certainly they have the capability to use tear gas. they have those pepper balls. they have other methods that they could certainly try and use to get the crowd to move back. i see officers holding cans of pepper spray. we haven't seen any of that being used. right now all that we have seen is the police using these pepper balls. they kind of look like almost like paintballs, and they're fired out of these kind of weapons that look like paintball guns. and several of them, chris, were
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firing those at the crowd. the crowd, chris, hasn't left. they're still here. >> you also have wetness there. >> senior officers, captains having discussions here. >> you have rain there also and wetness, which is going to matter in terms of -- >> it is raining, but i have to tell you, chris -- >> go ahead. >> but look at this crowd, i mean, none of them have left at this point. >> i know, i'm saying it's going to affect the -- >> right, shimon, it's not going to affect the crowd. it's going to affect the pepper pel pellets. they're not going to disperse the same way. let me bring in the commissioner. i remember when you were working in baltimore, we were down there at the same time watching you do the job. this is an interesting setup for police in brooklyn center, minnesota, because they have one way in and out right now that they've set out for themselves with that cyclone fence, which means they're going to have to come out in one very thin column into an entire fay lynx of protesters, and i don't think that pepper spray is helpful to them in the rain.
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>> no, chris, your observations are just amazing, but one of the biggest thing you've been pointing to is the chain of command. now that the major has taken over as the leader of the police department, that command staff is waiting for his directions. a vifcivilian mayor, i don't kn if he has police experience. now you're in a situation which is hot, which isn't looking good right now, and i would say the mayor needs to get there immediately because now you're talking about needing to flank. you're talking about maneuvering your staff to address closing off areas trying to push what you want to do is push them into areas where they're unfamiliar and just try to calm the situation. if it comes to that. if they stay under attack, if they're under, you know, if bot are bottles are coming their way, if rocks are coming their way, they may have to make that decision. like you said, now that the
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mayor is in charge, his voice, his leadership is really needed. >> you know, look, it's a good point. commissioner, please, do me a favor, stay with me for a while here. we're going to take a break. we're going to try to reach the mayor again because who's calling the shots there? this could be going one of two ways, which is they're waiting s and they're just requesgoing to it. it's too volatile of a situation, if they're safe, if the station is safe, let the bottles come, let the rocks come. they have their protective equipment on. they're far enough back they can handle it. or you make a decision to disperse the crowd. this may be the mayor's call. we were waiting on him to interview him before, totally understandable that the job comes first, but is that the job he's doing right now? is the mayor there? is he going to say something to the crowd? let's take a break, we'll come back. stay with cnn.
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area now is filled with tear gas. i certainly can taste it. i certainly can feel it in my throat and my nose, but that's where most of the -- where it all took place, chris. you can see there we had to move back because it just became too much. the police all of a sudden started firing the tear gas and the flash bangs to get the crowd to move back, and as they were firing, more tear gas kept coming and then the crowd started running. a lot of the tear gas has dissipated at this point, but you can certainly taste it. >> right. >> reporter: you can certainly feel it in your eyes and in your throat, and most of the protesters did move back, but now as you can see, a lot of them -- >> are coming back -- >> reporter: are coming back. things have escalated. >> that tear gas is not going to last very long because of the
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precipitation. i mean, we've both been in a lot of these situations. i'm feeling for you right now there. make sure you and the team stay safe. we can tell the story later. it's better that you're okay during it. they're going to move right back in. the officers did not move out and create a new line. they're still behind the fence where the department is, yes? >> reporter: that's right, chris. they're staying still behind the fence. they have not left from that area. the police are staying behind that fence, and they haven't come towards the crowd. they've just been using the tear gas now and some of the other -- see there's more now we can hear, some more of the flash bangs. >> is it coming from the same direction or do the police have a different setup -- >> reporter: no, i want to show you something, i'm going to turn around. i don't know if you can see
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this -- i was showing you earlier, they have now come out into the street. now what's happening is that the police are trying to surround this entire area. there's more, chris, as you can see. more of the flash bangs, and i just saw an officer throw that's going to be tear gas. so we're going to move back here as you can see more tear gas. and the protesters are still here. they're still standing around, but this is really starting to impact them somewhat because i can hear some of them coughing now. their eyes burning. as you said, you're exactly right, chris, the rain is -- it's not having its effect that it normally probably would if it wasn't raining and the precipitation. >> right. so let me bring in -- shimon, shimon, monitor the situation. just start talking when something changes. i want you to get to a safe space with your photographer. i want to bring in -- but don't go anywhere. just keep yourself safe.
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let me bring in anthony barksdale, former acting baltimore police commissioner. so they're doing a double pop and follow now. they're going to send out a couple of different lines of the pepper spray to get some density commissioner, and then they're following it behind it. what are the calculations that have to be made for police especially given the level of unrest. >> well, you're looking at basically an incident command system that needs to be set up at that scene right now. we need to know who's in charge because the thing is, you don't want to get into a dance with a huge crowd. either you're going to take that ground and you're going to hold it and disperse, or you're going to have cat and mouse games all night and that could lead to more problems. i don't know the mayor. i'm saying this with respect. i hope he's on the way to that scene, because he can be the stabilizer that's needed with that police department and dealing with that crowd right now. >> he is an active voice. he's been outspoken in his
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criticism that not enough was done with legislation, that there needed to be more real change. he's been critical of the police. so he may have some respect or credibility with this crowd, but you're making an interesting point, commissioner. they're firing now more pepper spray, and they're moving, but you actually have to do more than just pepper spray to disperse, and what is the calculation you have to make as the command chain here in terms of where the risk is? so they're moving a police vehicle out into the street right now. it's an equipped suv with one of those sensory flashlights in front of it. >> okay. so you're looking at maybe the need to form a skirmish line with the resources. >> they're making an announcement to disperse. go ahead, commissioner. >> okay. so now we're having the verbal warning. the verbal warning to disperse. now expect to see the skirmish lines form and the police, if
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led properly, to start dis dispersing the crowd in an orderly fashion. >> what is the argument, commissioner, for just staying in there? yeah, they're throwing bottles. yes, they're supposed to have been gone already. it's a curfew. it's 9:30 at night, still relatively early. give them a few hours. you know, the police department is safe. you guys are all behind the fence. let's see how it goes. what's the argument against doing it that way? >> chris, i'm not there, but i'm kind of seeing this on your video. if the crowd is not following the curfew, what's the point of issuing a curfew? don't even bother wasting your time. if the cops want to hunker down, that's fine, but i don't expect that to continue if they keep receiving rocks and bottles thrown at them. >> they're putting out more of the dispersal agent. there's some now -- there's another vehicle on the scene that is not police. let's just hope that this guy drives safely as he goes through this crowd. good, all right, he's proceeding
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at a very gentle pace. i don't know what he's doing there. his license plate's in full view so hopefully -- >> that truck should not have made it there. i don't know how -- we need that truck out of there. we've seen protesters get run over before. the police really need to establish that this is a safe space and they have control and right now i'm not seeing that. >> you're right. so the truck seems to be crawling that way, god forbid it becomes anything else. we have another set of eyes on the ground, commissioner. we have sara sidner there as well. sarah, can you hear me? >> reporter: yes, i got you, chris, sorry about that. lots going on here. you may notice that my eyes are very watery. that is because they have just like shot a huge amount of gas, and it's cs gas. it's really the strongest i have ever had, stood in before during a protest, and we were all
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consumed by it. so was everyone standing near the precinct. let me give you a look at the precinct. mike's going to come with me and show you. you can see people walking. anything that you see, you see how hazy it is? that is all tear gas, and it is extremely strong. if you look just now, i'm going to try and sort of stand in the street a little bit, you look there, now you can see -- now you can see -- >> you all be twisting up the story. >> do you want to talk to me? don't take my mic. we're cool. what's your name? >> what's my name? >> what's my name, my name is my name. tell me what you think about what's going on here. >> what i think about this is all the press and all the extra shit you all do is make this worse. >> you think so? >> when people want to protest they shouldn't do it in front of the police. courthouse, you get what i'm saying? i want you to be careful. i really do. >> of what? >> of anything that can hit you. >> look at all the stuff coming -- >> of what?
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>> of this. >> do i look like i'm scared? >> no, you don't. >> do i look like i'm scared? >> you don't, exactly. you all need to get up out of here twisting up the media and shit. >> you don't know. we're going to get to know each other. >> we're going to get to know each other, huh? >> how are you going to know me? >> you're going to talk. >> i'm going to share a number with you. >> here's my phone, let's go ahead and show me a number. >> talk about something that's real. >> tell me what's real. >> you all just going to edit out the shit. >> we're live. >> you're going to edit out some other shit. >> you're not fucking live. >> i'm live right now. >> get away from here with all that media shit you're doing. >> we're with cnn. >> take that camera all the way up there. you all doing all the extra shit to make people look crazier than what they are. >> you watch us. that's where we're going. >> all right, so everybody's got a hot head right now as you might imagine because it is really, really hot right now.
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the crowd was there. you can see the police all out. we are getting a huge amount of cs gas. you are hearing some of those flash bangs, but you are also seeing people throw fireworks towards the police department, and so you're getting a lot of back and forth. when you hear those pops, a lot of times that's fireworks. that's a firework, but you see it there, but then you will also hear these very loud booms. that is usually a flash bang, and then you'll start seeing gas come flying over the fence there. people have been trying to breakthrough that fence. the police have been reacting by trying to do less than lethal rounds at the crowd but you know, we're in a neighborhood. by the way, like look to my right here. these are apartment complexes all the way around. this is one big apartment complex, and so you've got folks that are living here. you can see people in the windows looking out. but it is a really, really rough scene right now, and this is all we have to remember because of a
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police-involved shooting where a female officer shot and killed daunte wright. he was in the car, folks are running because the cs gas is strong, but he was in the car. he was trying to get out of handcuffs as they were trying to arrest him. the officer yelled taser, taser and ended up using her firearm instead. you hear her curse and then say i just shot him. the police chief came out right away and said here is the video of what happened because there were a lot of rumors going on, a and he showed that to the crowd. that didn't necessarily calm things down because people are so incensed that another young black man has been killed by a police officer. >> sara, let's do this. it wasn't delivered the best way. that advice wasn't bad. you guys should move into a different location. i've never seen anyone handle these situations as well as sara sidner does. she keeps her head in a way you don't see in those situations.
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>> let me tell you something. give me a button on it. >> the button is i'm not moving out of here. i'm a reporter. i have been in minneapolis for years covering stories, and i feel like this is also my community, so i'm not going anywhere. >> i'm hearing you, i'm saying move up into the situation, find yourself a new vantage point. >> we are. >> i'll come right back to you. there's nobody i trust more to do it than you. be safe, you know how to do the job. i'm going to check in with shimon prokupecz as sara sidner finds her way back into the mix to tell us what's going on. shimon, what are you seeing where you are? >> reporter: so chris, what's been happening is back here through this street here, people have been firing fireworks at the officers here. i actually saw officers from behind the fence launching what looked like flash bangs towards crowd that was over here, so what's happened now is basi basically, chris, back and forth
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between the crowd here that has fireworks firing it at the police, and then the police responding with flash bangs and tear gas. and certainly the level of tear gas, it's strong, but yeah, and so you can see more of this just keeps continuing here with the flash bangs and the tear gas, chris. >> all right, shimon, get yourself to a safe vantage point. i'm going to take a break right now so that the people on the ground can get a chance to reposition. remember, it's a balance, right? we want to show you what's going on, but i got to keep my people on the street safe while they do it. you couldn't ask for a better team than you have tonight on the ground in minnesota. sara sidner does this job like no one else i've ever seen. shimon prokupecz is going to get as close to it as he can, but we're going to be safe. we're going to take a break. please stay with us. ♪i've got the brains♪
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city manager so he has direct control of the police. it raises the question is he going down to the police department now? is he going to speak to the crowd or telling them what to do? what are you seeing where you are? >> reporter: well, if he is it don't see him. if he comes down here, he's going to get hit with a bunch of cs guys. they were here as the tear gas was being sprayed all over the place. tell me first of all, you guys are from minneapolis, right? >> yes. >> reporter: tell me what your thoughts are? what do you think of what happened before this all started with the police shooting and daunte wright and what's happening since? >> it is crazy, george floyd
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just passed due to this epidemic -- >> it is already a year since he past and we lost another black man in minneapolis. we are too young to be seeing other black folks passed to police brutality. i am here today to stand on it. >> thank you for speaking your heart. >> reporter: i am going to talk to these gentlemen. i am going to give you an idea, we are further back from the police department because of how strong the tear gas is. you can still hear the fighting between them and the crowd, the officers have cleared out much of it. there were hundreds and hundreds of people standing right up to the precinct here in brooklyn center. it is a little bit quiet.
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you can feel the back and forth of the flash bangs and the fireworks as well. we'll get back to these gentlemen to talk to them a little later. you heard why he's here, things have to change, he does not want to see another one of himself or friends killed in a police shooting. >> we were looking at the crowd kind of with the discerning eye earlier and sure, you saw a lot of young black men and women but there are a lot of young and older white men and women. these become opportunities for outsiders so we are keeping an eye on all of it. let me get to shimon because police have moved out of the department, sara. shimon, we see it, tell us what's going on? >> reporter: yes, these are the stage troopers are pushing through the street here and telling people to move back. there really are not many people directly here. some of the officers were
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flashing and pointing their flashlights at us trying to figure who we are. behind these officers, sara was talking about hearing more of what sounded like flash bags and more gas from the police coming from this side. there is a group of protesters and you can hear one of the protesters here. there is a group and there is a crowd that we can't see that it seems that the police are trying to disperse. that's why we saw and heard some more of that gas. this is the entire area now. the police have been relatively successful after using the flash bangs and the tear gas to push a lot of the crowds back. a lot of them have at this point left so we are not seeing them. there has been some more tear gas. there you can hear some more behind me here, chris.
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now it just seems honestly that the police, we are just giving permission to go ahead and throw as much tear gas as they want and fire as many flask bags they want. >> okay. >> reporter: here you see this line here, they're out on the street. >> shimon, we see it. let me bring in commissioner marx here. they're going to need more of the suppressive agent because of the conditions theys are dealing with. what's the move now until they get to a better resolution? >> we are seeing a squirmish line. they are starting to claim the area. this has not been a mess so far. if the mayor is not there,
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whoever is there in command right now is doing a great job. the citizens that are vinvolved in this protest may be dis disbursing. i know that line we are looking at if they get the right order, they can definitely start moving for r ward. >> we'll pick up the analysis of this situation tomorrow. now we have to deal with the urgency, we'll take a break, sarah sidner is on the ground and shimon prokupecz is there. cnn has a lot of people covering this story, please stay with cnn. the harry's razor is not the same. our razors have five german engineered blades designed to stay sharp, so your eighth shave is as smooth as your first. and we never upcharge you for high quality.
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we are monitoring the situation in brooklyn center, minnesota. police are active and a lot of tear gas tonight. coverage picks up with "cnn tonight" with don lemon. thank you, chris, i will see you later on. this is cnn tonight, i am don lemon. we are following the breaking news, after police shooting of the death of
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