alexander, 19-year-old somaria blackwell, 66-year-old amar, 64-year-old jaswinder kour, 68 years jaswinder singh, amarjit skhon, carly smith and john weisert. i am chris cuomo and welcome to "primetime." protests over the police killing of daunte wright have stretched into a sixth night in brooklyn center, minnesota. now there are also protests tonight in chicago, echoing the laments of those on the streets of minnesota about a life taken too soon. this time, it was a police shooting that happened last month involving 13-year-old adam toledo. body cam video of his killing was released yesterday, hence the protests now.

in the video, he appears to comply with the officer who is yelling at him after chasing him down an alley to drop, drop his gun, show his hands. as he does that, the officer shoots him. the question now is was the officer justified and believing the suspect may still have the weapon in that split-second decision. if nothing else, this country is finally united. we have all had it. there's just too much pain, too much hurt. we are all frustrated. we are all exhausted by the same. from fears of the vaccine to fears, to the victims of police, shootings, mass shootings, mass refusal to mask up. all the bs politics, pandering to the weakest among us. the tunnel just gets longer. we're at the point where even the sharpest eyes can barely see a glint of light in the

darkness. forget about whoever you think is them for just a moment. take the time to consider if there is anything resembling an us anymore. does anyone see america the way you want her to be? do any of you see a people with a purpose that resembles anything like the dream? you've got to ask yourself that, because otherwise what the hell is it all about? what are we doing here? why are you watching? why are you doing anything? why watch anything? why care about anything? what is your why? what matters? the fedex tragedy, sure, i could take you all through it tonight. it's the 45th mass shooting in this country in a month. will it change your opinion? will it make you feel a need for something? yes, if you're one of the family members or loved ones of the eight people who died, or people who died in the other 45 mass shootings. the number will never be enough.

the number of dead will never be enough. this time this gunman killed eight, injured at least seven more, took his own life. his mother warned the feds about him last year. they took it seriously. they heard her say he might try to commit suicide by cop. what more of a red flag do you need? they went, they took a shotgun of his, but they couldn't find a criminal violation. you don't punish thought. not yet. the laws and the system are not set up to help someone like this, and you know that is the exact person that we need to help before they hurt. and you know that the system doesn't do it because the system worked, but it didn't, because it's not enough. this comes on the heel of a mass shooting at a cabinet making company in texas, a supermarket in boulder, a spa shooting in atlanta. it doesn't matter where you are. it doesn't matter who you are.

these happen everywhere, all the time. and you know that access to guns by the wrong people has a role. and, no, i cannot tell you the law that would have stopped this shooting. but i can tell you this, president after president has been forced to address the bloodshed, republican, democrat, whatever they are these days. they have all recognized the need to do more than just pray. >> the majority of those who died today were children. and we're going to have to come together and take meaningful action to prevent more tragedies like this. >> no child, no teacher should ever be in danger in an american school. it is not enough to simply take actions that make us feel like we are making a difference. we must actually make that difference. >> congress has to step up and

act. the senate has to act. it's a national embarrassment and must come to an end. who in god's name needs a weapon that can hold a hundred rounds, or 40 rounds, or 20 rounds? it's just wrong. and i'm not going to give up until it's done. >> then he won't give up, but it won't get done because all you have is prayer. i'm one of those people who have said prayer is not enough. it's all we have. nothing else will get done. and i'm not some cynic. i wouldn't do this job if i were. this job is hard. it makes life suck on a lot of levels. but it matters, because the good fight matters. and making ourselves safer is the good fight. protecting the dream, expanding the dream, that is the fight, that is the country, that is our why. but we're not letting it happen. the nra exposed as a sham, but it hasn't changed the sham that any change, any law is going to

end the liberty of the second amendment. that's still alive and well. even after vegas in 2017, stood out there in that cold morning after, people crying all over me, 60 dead, so many injured that the blood flowed freely as sin on the strip. >> i think it's premature to be discussing legislative solutions, if there are any. >> there's no measure on the agenda in the remaining weeks of this session of congress. 45 shootings, dead all over the place, people crying in the streets. there's nothing that would pass anyway. we refuse to address the violence. we refuse to address the shootings and the violence as a figurative disease. this is a disease. why would we address that? we refuse to face a real disease.

we have a real pandemic stalling our civilization. we are the only civilized nation whose leaders actively tried to promote not doing what the science says. cancun cruise. he says i'm done wearing masks in the capitol. >> at this point i've been vaccinated. everyone working in the senate has been vaccinated. >> he knows that's not the science. the guy went to harvard. not everyone in the senate has been vaccinated, and he knows it. staff, reporters covering him. he knows. even his boys, fellow senators rand paul and ron johnson, you know why they aren't vaccinated? i'm not getting it. you're not telling me what to do. close to 40% of your party now expresses hesitancy. i wonder why? here's a hint. >> you don't think americans'

liberties have been threatened the last year, dr. fauci? they have been assaulted have, their liberties have. >> i don't look at this as a liberty thing. >> well, that's sgobvious. >> i look at it as a public health thing. >> 565,000 dead all from the pandemic. i don't even believe the number, by the way. i guarantee you people died that were wrote off as not covid, that it was something else. jordan has decided he's had enough. he wants to pretend that -- i just want to get my liberty back, man, and everything else will be fine. really? when that type of behavior is exactly what has us in the position. he knows it makes no sense. he's just banking on you not giving a damn. how many more die of the pandemic, dying from police shootings. george floyd, daunte wright. i wonder if you'll remember their names six months from today because they'll be

replaced by so many others. you're here, people, what are you going to do when you see those shootings. you know what you're going to do. that george floyd, did you hear about him? that daunte wright, did you hear about him? that 13-year-old adam, you know he was a gangbanger. why do that? because you want to make the problem them. it takes the onus off the idea that you're wrong about policing not needing to change. forget that police are trained to deal with noncompliance with force that is not lethal. hey, comply or die. and you know what the answer is. you really do. you don't like it, i don't like it, it scares me. shootings, gun laws, access to weapons. oh, i know when they'll change. your kids start getting killed, white people's kids start getting killed, smoking that doobie that's probably legal in

your state and the kid runs and pop, pop, pop, pop, pop. the cop was justified. why did you run? oh, we had a baseball game tonight. oh, white kid, big family, that house over there? those start piling up. what is going on with these police? maybe we shouldn't even have police. that kind of mania, that kind of madness, that will be you. that will be the majority, because it's your people. see, now black people start getting all guns, forming militias, protect themselves. can't trust the deep state. you'll see a wave of change, in access and accountability. we saw it in the '60s. that's when it changes, because that's when it's you. my job is to show you and them, because there but for the grace. and the grace is forgiveness

that none of us deserve for the blessings that we're wasting in this country. that is our reality. and the reality is clear and the state of play is unchanging. and that is not a recipe for any type of longevity. and what do we do here, what do i do here? i get lost in the next. the next name, the next iteration, the new in news dominates because you get bored. i've heard enough. i've heard enough. i cared about george floyd, it was wrong, but i've had it with the trial, it's too long. just let me know when they have a verdict. we pretend that we're not just seeing the same lying and lack of leading and bleeding and death and pain, new names, new faces, new places. same problems. you know it, i know it. i know that you know. the testing, the voting, the

vaccines, the dying, the shooting, the drugs, the suicide, the teaching, the testing of education. all of it. it all hits the poor and the poor of color worst, and we know it. and we've always known it. i remember my father preaching about this when my teeth were two inches apart. i was a fat kid waiting to eat on the steps of my house while he was talking to people that he was asking to vote for him in one of the elections that he lost, like five, six in a row. us and them, us and them. there's never a solution that doesn't begin with we. we, the people. they started it. every copy you see of the document blows those letters up. why? because that's all we have is the interconnectedness and interdependence. if you give up on each other, that's it. it doesn't matter how impressive or resonant or you feel the words to be, because all you

have is prayer. all you have is hope, that at some point something makes some iteration or generation of us realize that the only solution is not less, but more. more people, more enabled, to do more with talent, to make more pie for all of us. that is the only way that this country ever approaches what she is supposed to be. and the only question for us is what will it take to get there? and for that, i have better minds. i have van jones and i have michael smerconish. now, these two men are mentors to me in different ways. michael has got a great mind for understanding the simple and the complex. he did it today on his show about how, you know, never

stopping the vaccine because they have had less than one in a million deaths. shutting it down, studying it, you've got to be safe. you've got eight people dead at the fedex factory and they don't even take a breath about what to do. and van is the manifestation of hope in america. he believes. he believes. and i need them both because i don't share their sentiments on either. so we'll start with the head and go to the heart. michael, the logic is clear and obvious. eight people die at the fedex, not even a yawn. they had to argue with me to include it in the top of the show tonight because i said where is it? where is anybody talking about it? but the vaccine, seven out of 7 million, shut it down. we've got to think of a better way. how do you explain it? >> i thought your commentary was brilliant and depressing. you're right, i sent out a tweet today and i said six individuals out of 7 million who had the j&j

shot developed complications. we don't know if that's causation or correlation, but we immediately shut down that entire program in the midst of a pandemic and then comes the news of what transpires in indianapolis. eight folks are dead and i hate to say it, but i buy into your logic. i don't think anything changes. here's an embarrassing thought. i was driving to work very early this morning having heard the news and running through my mind, when did this last occur? i couldn't place it. i knew it was boulder but i couldn't remember that it was a supermarket. i couldn't remember that ten had died. when i got to work, i looked up all the other recent incidents. chris, i'm a news junkie. it's amazing how many of them i had forgotten. i guess what i'm really frightened about is the ease with which we're all now so willing to just move on to the next day's news cycle. >> and, van, you preach hope. and you're right, everybody who

leads from their heart does. a marriage of head and heart like yours makes you a very valuable asset to the cause. but at some point hope can be defined as, as yet undiscovered disappointment. because if you don't have a plan and you don't have a way to implement the plan, you can hope all you want. you wind up with a new name and a new face and a new place with the same fate. so how do we do better? >> well, i think that you're speaking for a lot of people right now. i think the level of exasperation, the level of just depression, people are really hurt. people are hurting and uncertain about how we're going to go forward. i do think that we've fallen into a particular kind of a trap that comes from the dimmer switch is going up on some of this stuff. for all we know there could be fewer of some of these shootings, some of these bad things that are going on when it comes to the police, but there's a lot more evidence of it now.

so we're getting more i illumination on the problem and not on the solution. this is what i know for sure, i don't have to guess. there are a bunch of awful people in the country. there's a lot more awesome people in the country. there's a lot more good people who just don't know what to do, chris. the awful people are screaming and yelling and blocking everything and tweeting and cancelling and acting like complete lunatics and they get all the attention. the vast majority of people are good folks in both parties, all races, all faiths. they just don't know what to do yet. they are waiting for some instruction. what i believe -- what you're going to see is we're hitting now -- i have never seen you like this tonight. >> broken. >> yeah. listen, seriously. i think we're hitting peak division. i think now, once we get past that trial, i think you're going to start seeing at the grassroots level a bottom up movement to restore some stuff.

we can't fix stuff at the federal level. i'm hearing it everywhere. people are tired of the crap and looking for things to do. it's going to start off small and it's going start to grow. it's going to be people coming together, tired of the noise. but i think you are speaking for millions and millions of people tonight. but anybody who's got a solution at the local level, this is the time to speak up. >> you can't say it because they'll say you're making a threat. but you know if there were kids in white neighborhoods getting killed by cops for running away. and, yeah, every one of them, look, i don't want to say this, i don't want to wish bad for anybody. i love my kids and they're all that matters to me. mike, i know you're the same way. but you know if it was the people that we know and the places where we live and their kids started getting taken out, one here, one there. well, they were leaving late that night from that party and they came to break up the party and those kids ran out, it looked like a gun, it was a bottle, they shot them. hey, justified. things would change.

we start seeing gangs of black militias to protect their neighborhoods that have legal firearms, things would change. van, last word for you and then to michael. >> look, if african-americans start creating a militia, all of a sudden we'll have gun reform just like that. that would be the quickest way to get there. you know we're not kidding. >> it would happen just like that. that would be the quickest way to get there. let me point out, you talked about the fact the vaccine is shut down. that's the bad news. the good news is we have a vaccine a lot faster than people thought. you talked about the fact that we have these horrific murders that are being shared. but the reality is, it's also creating a big, big demand for some kind of change. congress hasn't moved but i've been doing this for 25 years. i've never seen as much awareness as possible. so right now in this moment, this may we the breakdown but break throughs are possible because tomorrow always comes. >> michael. >> if black folks form militias for the first time in our nation's history, we'll begin reconsidering the second amendment and the language that

pertains to militias. the silver lining in all of this is that i agree with van. there's more that unites us. there are a lot of folks who are centrists who are turned off by the profit engineered folks who benefit from fomenting dissent. if we can take back control of this conversation maybe, maybe we can see our way out of it. >> more people like you, more good ideas, there will be more progress. the question is how do i get guys like you to want to have guys like me beat them like pinatas so you can get into public service on the full scale and have me try to destroy your life. god for bid. thank you for helping me do my job and thank you for helping my audience. the best to both of you. i'll never be a cynic except looking at society ascans. i do this because journalism is an act of faith in the future. the day i believe things can't

get better is the day i hang up all 11 of these ugly suits. programming note, smerconish is starting at a special time tomorrow morning. he is a unique commodity in the media. on one level everybody should be like him, but they're not. he's special. 8:00 a.m. eastern here on cnn. today is a hundred days since the attack on our capitol. put that on the list of things that people just don't care about. and on this day, prosecutors secured the first guilty plea by a rioter. a big player, founding member of the oath keepers. they ain't a part of the solution, i'll tell you that. what will his cooperation with the government mean for the hundreds of others charged? and the former president who inspired the mob, and you hear all that nothing? that's every member of the gop who isn't saying a damn thing about the worst riot we've seen in modern history. that's the problem, next.

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just between us, i know you care. watching a show like this on a friday night, i know you care. i care too. i'm not trying to bring you down, i'm just trying to get you to see which way is up, because we're all drowning right now. and yet there is progress. there's a first in the massive domestic terror investigation digging into the attack on the capitol. r remember, it was an act of terror. just because they were white doesn't mean it's not an act of terror. more than 400 people have been charged. but they just had the first flip. his name is john schaefer. he admits he was one of the first to breach the capitol and armed with bear spray. he acknowledged in court that he's a founding member of the oath keepers. he's now working with federal investigators. what does that mean? let's bring in deputy assistant attorney general who's been invaluable in covering the

george floyd murder trial, elliot williams. good to see you, brother. >> hey. >> why do i care that this oath keeper goon flipped? >> well, you know, it means that there's more charges coming. look, chris, it's really common to think that the whole point here is to flip and move up the chain to get the next big fish or something like that but i wouldn't think of it in that way. it's either one of two things, either a ladder or jungle gym. either they're trying to go up the ladder or around the jungle gym to charge other people. think about the hundreds of people that simply haven't been identified by the fbi yet. someone like this as a founder of the oath keepers can help identify others to bring charges there. >> but your insight goes to not individuals as much as to organizations and loose affiliations, that they may have trouble tracking down because a lot of them are new, right? >> yeah. yeah, no, absolutely.

and their connection to the oath keepers might be tenuous. the most interesting thing, though, chris about this plea deal for him, folks may not know this, he's not limited to just testifying or identifying people on january 6th. anybody connected to the oath keepers, anybody back home, anybody unlawful activity that he knows about, he's under an obligation to provide to federal investigators. so they could -- pretty much feds own him at this point. anything that he knows about in any capacity is fair game. and he ought to start providing it even if it's not about january 6th and is just about oath keepers or any unlawful activity. >> and what is the hope, that this guy being the head of an organization -- a lot of people will ask for deals, right? for everybody this falls into the category of it seems like a good idea at the time and now they're all going to be begging for deals and asking for organic food. but what does this mean that it's this guy? >> yeah, i mean, again, it can

mean the simplest explanation is he might just be the one that they got to first. now he first made himself available to the fbi on january 17th. this isn't somebody who came out of the woodwork the other day. maybe this is just the person they brought charges about or he has information about other people that he's continuing to provide. i think it's hard for folks to get their heads around the fact that investigations take a long time to put together. and even in my hometown right here in the district of columbia, there are these signs on the street, have you seen this person, have you identified this person from january 6th. they still don't know and haven't identified hundreds of people who were there and individuals like this can help finger them essentially. >> elliot williams, thank you for being one of the helpful people. appreciate you. >> thanks, chris. so this isn't about creating problems, about fomenting tension where it doesn't exist, it's about identifying the obvious. january 6th was a terror attack. it was an insurrection. you won't hear half the political aisle even talk about that.

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the progeny of european architecture. several republican congress members are already involved, including none other than congressman matt gaetz who's still under federal investigation. that's going to be a long story with a long way to go. don't roll your eyes because it's not just the outsiders. listen. >> what they believe right now is happening, what appears to them is we're replacing national born native born americans to permanently transform the political landscape of this very nation. >> you know this is a nation of immigrants, right? you know it's written on the foot of the statue of liberty, right? now that wasn't some kook. that was scott perry of pennsylvania, just a rank in file republican, spreading an ugly racist theory that native-born white americans are being purposefully replaced by immigrants as a way to change the culture of the country. our culture is made up of immigrants.

how many of you are here more than two generations? this is the same toxicity amplified and legitimized over by the fop on fox. >> i know that the left and all the little gate keepers on twitter become literally hysterical if you use the term replacement, if you suggest that the democratic party is trying to replace the current electorate, the voters now casting ballots, with new people, more obedient voters from a third world. let's just say it, that's true. everyone wants to make a racial issue out of it. the white replacement theory. no, no, no. >> whites, white supremacists never want to say it's a racial issue. the guy with four names, tucker swanson mcneer carlson, anti-elitist. look up his daddy. you find me something about the guy that isn't elitist. look, white replacement theory is what it sounds like. it's a white supremacist

movement. google it. you can hear their chants for yourself. they will not replace it. ju jews, blacks, fill in the blank. remember, fox told you in court that guy is not to be seen as credible. they know they are selling you poison for profit. and it led to this, the insurrection. a hundred days since and none the wiser. the very same qanon kook who empowers them is growing in power. now, my next guest wants green gone from congress yesterday. but you know what the right is going to do? they're going to play the left's own game and say congresswoman payapal, you're trying to cancel. we're victims. how is she going to play that game? how is she going to make change on her side of the ball? let's talk, next.

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jayapal is here now. it is good to see you. best to you and the family. here is the difference between your party and their party. here is the leader, kevin mccarthy, in the house. put up his tweet, please. here's what he would say about this person who believes crazy stuff, okay? america is built on the idea that we're all created equal and success is earned through honest, hard work. their policies don't reflect that. the fact that they don't care about an insurrection doesn't reflect that. the fact that they don't care about the shootings doesn't reflect that, but that's okay. it's not built on identity, race or religion, although that's all their party is playing at. the republican party is the party of lincoln and more opportunity for all americans, not nativist dog whistles. so that is the best he will do. they are the party of staying in line, which is why they beat you. matt gaetz, they could investigate him for a million things. his party will not move on him until the doj makes a move. i have no problem with due process but i'm talking about

politics. you guys are not like that. you wanted to move on her. you have no success. so what can you do to fight back against the tide that is coming? >> well, chris, you know, i have not tweeted or talked about marjorie taylor green in more than a month. i came on your show to talk about the refugee cap, about shots in arms, about kids in schools, about getting people into jobs. i am not wasting one minute of time on marjorie taylor green because what she is doing is disgusting, but it is a reflection of what the republican party has become. the fact that not a single republican was able to vote for the american rescue plan that 70% of the country supported is a travesty, but that is what the republican party has become. so what are we doing about it as democrats? we're passing a rescue plan that has 76% approval across the country. we are getting shots in arms. we are getting kids back in schools. we are helping small businesses. we are going to pass a giant

jobs bill to put people back to work. >> maybe. >> and we are going to make sure that we open our refugee assistance program again, because as even evangelicals have said, it is the crown jewel of american humanitarianism. so that's what i've been concerned about today. i don't care about marjorie taylor green. if you all on tv want to talk about her, that's fine, but that's not my concern. >> you did -- hold on. >> the fact that kevin mccarthy is not even interested in decrying it, you know, that's just what the republican party is today. >> i'm with you. i'm just saying, i'm not about the party, that's your opinion. there's only one of two possibilities. i made up that you and other democrats made a move to get her out of the house or i'm telling the truth. i'm telling the truth, that's why i brought it up. but i'll play on your own footing. i think you guys are being exposed as all talk, no walk on immigration and i'll tell you why. the problems have always been

there. and we saw that there is no real plan to do better yet. it's early in the administration, biden has a ton of things on his plate. but you guys don't have any great plans either. and him saying i am going to play with the number of people who come in. wait, no, i'm not. why? everybody jumped on him and said, no, no, no, you have to let in more. remember what we said about trump, that he was limiting access to the dream? now why did his first instance say i'm going to leave it where trump did. you know why? because the system is overburdened. because for all the talk, you didn't give him money for more resources. they don't have the people to process the cases. the rules make no sense. there's no real central american liaison. you don't have the people doing the job and don't have a plan to do it better. your response. >> it's just not true. we have a plan and it's being put in place. you know, we wrote a letter to the biden administration with 69

democrats that signed it, i led that letter, and we gave every single piece of what we need to do both in the short term and the long term. there's no question that trump left us with a mess on immigration. you've been reporting on that, we've been fighting it for four years. he's destroyed every legal avenue for immigration. so is it going to take the biden administration some time to get that all in place? yes, it is. is it -- are there things that they could do better and faster? yes, there are. we outlined them already. but i wanted to talk about the refugee cap because this is the most bipartisan piece of immigration. my governor in washington state, a republican governor, was the one who allowed vietnamese refugees to come into washington state. that has been true across the history of this country. >> yes. >> we have had a very important refugee resettlement program that has nothing to do with what's happening on the border, where people are sitting in refugee camps. chris, i don't know if you've

ever been to a refugee camp, i lived and worked in one and i can tell you how devastatingly horrible it is. we cannot leave these refugees sitting in these camps for one day more than is necessary -- >> i hear you. >> that's why i've been tough on the president on this. i don't think he should have changed -- >> not tough enough. >> he said in february that he was going to lift the refugee cap, and i believe that he needs to do that right now. >> yes. but he was not going to play it that way until there was pressure. why? because they don't have a fix for the system. >> no, no, no, that's just -- >> congresswoman. >> i just have to disagree with you, chris. >> you can disagree, but where's the new plan? where's the law? where's the bill? where's the bill that's in the senate? >> you're talking about two totally different things. you're conflating what's happening at the border with the refugee resettlement program. >> no, i'm not. i appreciate your correction but i am not doing that. they are two different

situations, but they are connected. and the idea that one doesn't influence the other is just not true and you know that. not just in funding, but in political leverage. what i'm saying is you show me the bill that improves the resettlement program and gives the resources that they need to have people live the way they can and have the connections that they should have and i will ask why the senate isn't passing it every day. every day. >> chris, the refugee resettlement cap is set by the president. >> i know, but the whole program is in disarray. >> but the bill is about the resources that are in the budget which the president did send over that does increase the amount of refugees. and since february, actually since january, since he came in, the agencies have already been ramping up when trump had cut off the funding and closed it down. we will be funding that program and frankly it's always gotten bipartisan support. and the president sent over a day one immigration bill, and

we've passed daca and we passed the farm worker modernization act in the house. it's not like we don't have solutions to this, we know what the problem is. but you know what happens, chris? the republicans consistently and some democrats. you know, i was an immigration activist for 20 years before coming to congress, and i called out a former democratic presidents for not being real about the fact that we use immigrants -- >> good. >> -- as political footballs. >> good. >> and we can't do that again. >> i agree. >> and we can't do it with the refugee resettlement program. >> i'm with you. i was on the phone with somebody that used to run it today to get ready for this interview. and she -- they have been problems there. i know you understand that. i'm just saying it is talk, and from you it is a lust for action. i know that. not everybody is you, jayapal. and that is why i'm saying that it's on you guys to make things happen in a way that makes you

better than the last administration. that's all i'm saying. >> i agree. >> that's all i'm saying. >> i totally agree with you. >> that's why i have you on. >> that's why we passed the most progressive dream act, you know, ever. that's why we passed a farm worker modernization bill. by the way, chris, those were now were working on the american citizenship act and i have a number of bills that i am working on and pushing through. we sent a letter with all the specifics of what we think the biden administration should do. some of them already working on. i want to give them some credit for it. there are other pieces that we need to move along and frankly at the end of the day we need to invest in the sending countries because we got to get it to the root cause of the situation. >> you have to do it with actual liaisons. you have to set up infrastructures there that's cooperatively controlled. that's what we saw made a

difference when they had a couple of guys worked in the trump administration. be very clear, i know i am talking about. i have you on because you are pushing for r the right thing. the white house plays with that cap. >> if you saw my statement today. it was pretty clear about how i feel about -- >> that's you, that's why you are here. it is not just because i liked your name. i know you are fighting for something that matters and you have the antimovement on the other side of the isle that's every bit of robust as yours. i wish you well and you always have a platform to fight for what this country is supposed to be. >> thanks, chris, good to talk to you. be well, we'll be right back. wel as gum issues. does it worry me? absolutely. sensodyne sensitivity and gum

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how do you find that place, martin? >> reporter: filled with emotions. now that more and more people have seen it and the feelings have set in, it is just -- this crowd has been going by us for for for for minutes. it is thousands and thousands. it started in logan square, we got a couple of miles instead and the numbers are just really impressive. it is really pent-up voices of people who are upset of what they say are many, many deaths here at the hands of chicago pd. >> so it is that anger. >> reporter: it is reaching of a tipping point. a horrendous video seen of a

13-years-old boy died. those pointing out he had a gun, he didn't have a gun when his hands were raised in the air. they believe adam toledo was only coming blind and he died as a result of it. we have helicopters flying over head among them or police helicopter. it actually has been a disappointed crowd and organized crowd and they have crowd marshals. they have their own bicycle patrols that is are running besides the crowd to keep them in line and on the sidewalks. they are doing their best to keep everyone safe and keep them in line. it is loud and at times it is angry but for the most part it is completely paeaceful. the police are carefully watching. you can tell they are a few blocks away and ready to move in if need be but so far there is been no need.

you can see it is take a knee. it is a moment of reverence. >> it is paying respect. that's the way it has been. >> martin, the crowd looks very mixed to me. is that your obserobservation? >> reporter: yes, latino members of the community and black members and native american members. it is chicagoans every way represented out on the streets tonight. >> thank you very much, we'll be in coverage, you are one of the best, thank you for doing it for us tonight. >> reporter: you bet, chris. >> that's martin savidge in chicago, we'll be following it, we'll be right back.

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the big show, "cnn tonight" with the big star d-lemon. people are on the streets taking a knee. i like seeing black and white together. i like seeing old and young. i like seeing constituencies coming together even if they don't share the same experience. when they get loud and yell at the police, nobody says everything you are supposed to say is polite. everybody lost that privilege after january 6th when they did not speak about what happened there. when they start yelling how this is a 13-years-old kid and he turned and had no gun in his hands, how is that right? they have every right. if you are not angry and outraged? >> you know what would be great? i like to see diversity, too. would it be great if it is all