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read before signing. i'm michael smerconish in philadelphia. yale school of management senior associate dean jeffrey sonnenfield had a gathering with american business leaders recently. the focus was the debate about voter rights playing out in several states most notably in georgia and soon to be in texas. he invited 129 ceos and 90 calls in and represented diverse interest and the biggest names in business. according to "the new york times" the zoom call began with
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statements from ken shanall and ken frazier of merck asking people to sign statements opposing restrictive voting laws. the outcome was a two-page ad that ran wednesday in the "new york post" and apple and facebook and ibm, lyft, paypal, peloton, target are among those who signed. warren buffett signed individually and so is did samuel j. jackson and amy schumer. a slew of well-known law firms also lent their support. there were major interests that didn't sign, walmart, j.p. morgan chase and coca-cola among them. a letter was sent to the ceos the company is not in the
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business of business applications and two weeks ago, senate minority leader mitchell mcconnell said corporations should not be intimidated by the left and should stay out of politics. he noted his comments did not apply to political contributions. others have questioned whether the ceos have read the georgia bill. in similar fashion i asked those critical of corporate community have read the ad. "the times" reported that some participants wanted this line out that shanall and frazier insisted it remain. here is how it reads. i'd sign that. who wouldn't? but, then again, i'm one who also believes the georgia law has, in part, been m
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mischaracterized. i had a telephone call in mile program on thursday. chris from nashville identified himself as a former board member for one much big four accounting firms and what he said made great sense to me. >> i think a lot of these companies also, their leaders realize a society with tension and violence and the crumbling of social unity is not a good environment for business. and i can tell you that this company -- this country is about one or two bad elections and behaviors away from the kind of chaos you see in latin america and that won't be good for anybody's bottom line. >> joining me now, is jeffrey so so sonnenfield, the man behind these business gathering. jeffrey why alienate half of the
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folks you're trying to sell widgets-to-? >> it's not alienating. the business is playing a unifying role. these are wedge issues that some opportunistic politicians in a misguided sense are trying to divide and conquer, which is the approach our last president took, unfortunately, but not what the the business community sees. they look at the opportunity to have unified communities. they don't want hostile angry work forces and don't want boycotting consumers. therapy in the business of social harmony as is the history of fabric of american society and it's a win/win and where they have always been and people recognize that not left, that not right and to make it work it
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should bring most of the country back together again. >> you wrote an essay for yesterday's "the wall street journal" explaining how this came to pass and offering some opinions of your own. i got lost in the comments that were appended to them and not all of them supportive as you might imagine in the journal. one of the criticisms was this is pure self-interest on the part of the business community. they want to ingratiate themselves to a democratic white house and a beingic house of representatives -- a democratic house of representatives and a divided senate. your response to that is what? >> that is what where the business community want to be. they are not hostile to this. they fought last summer against the visa restrictions and better than the university lobbying and better than the immigration lawyers themselves out of their self-interest, they want to be to be seen as a magazine fet for
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the world's best talent. they want to engage in global trade and not isolationist as america can't do it completely alone in any national security concerns. there is only not segregationist or climate changers and that is where the business community is. it's hardly self-interest alone. it's the american interest that is unified here. nobody wants angry wedges or certainly no ceos do and very few american public want this divisiveness and sending people off into the armed angry camps. we have never had such a violent nation as we have today and this has to be addressed. >> where else might this lead? the focus of the ad that ran in "the new york times" and "the washington post" was on voter rights and so-called voter suppression. we just had another mass shooting in the united states in indianapolis. can you see this community? would you call them together again to talk about the gun
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issue? >> well, you know, i'm glad you bring that up. here we are a nation with 5% of the world's population and close to 40% of the mass killings. how can that be? 5% of the world and 40% of the mass killings? the business community and the american public are not supportive of that even though our partisan politics don't seem to address this part. this is unspeakable. the business community has been in favor of all kinds of regulation through history from product finance and the rest is to have safe guidelines of fair play. when it comes to gun safety, we had a firearms control act of 1934. the business community was behind it and it got rid of the gangsters and semiautomatic of a sort we remember from the old movies.
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we also in 1994 are the violent crimes control act that the business community was behind. oddly, throughout most of american history the nra were in favor and a gun safety interruption. >> i have to interrupt and come back to where i began. very noble, in my opinion, that which you've just described, but nobody in the american populace elected any ceos and the job of the congress. i come back to where i began. why alienate second amendment purists? why is it good for the bottom line? >> there are companies that you find when you speak to social issues you can get a rally cry behind it. nike that was being or harley davidson with its iconic
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american eagle as a symbol, they survived through it all. when president trump attacked goodyear, they didn't hurt them and they thrived off of that. 70% of the country wants all of the surveys say they want to ban semiautomatics and 97% of the country wants enhanced gun registration background checks. this is where the country is that we have one party, which is missing where the electorate is on this particular issue so we won't be losing customers or investors or employees over this. i think that is misguided. >> i like the caller to my radio program who essentially said, look. unless we get it together as a country, nobody's bottom line is going to prosper. jeffrey sonnenfeld, thank you for coming to the program. i appreciate you. >> thank you.
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what are your thoughts? i'll read some responses throughout the program. from the world of twitter. i think mitch mcconnell wants to have it both ways when he says similar to you, that the corporate community should butt out of this. the argument i just raised with jeffrey sonnenfeld who elected them. mitch wants to make sure the contribution keep flowing. i wonder if it's good enter a business sense. my answer is -- it depends on what business you're in. ahead, eight people were killed when a gunman opened fire inside and outside of a fedex facility in indianapolis late thursday night into friday morning. in response i sent out a tweet which has been liked nearly 19,000 times. here is what i said. when 6 out of 7 million develop
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i hit a nerve with this comparison. i said when 6 out of 7 million develop complications after the johnson & johnson vaccine, one dies, the entire rollout is paused in the midst of a pandemic. but eight die in the latest mass shooting and nothing will change. when i was processing the news of the shooting at the fedex facility in indianapolis early yesterday, it honestly to me a minute to remember the most recent prior mass shooting. of course, it was march 22nd, ten people were killed at a kings super grocery store in boulder, colorado. even though my mind is cluster amid a busy news circle, it's scary and sad to no longer recollect the details but shows the ease we move on from these mat shootings. i attached my mind to the word de
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design. the design this is the american life and the way it will be for rest of our lives in this country. after each shooting, we grieve and give thoughts and prayers and many of us want to see change but we lack the fundamental will to alter our gun culture. british broadcaster piers morgan said as much in a controversial tweet he said, yesterday, quote. he is right at least for half the country. americans don't have a monopoly on mental health. there is nothing unique about the construction of the american mind. it's not our dna. people around the globe, they have the same stressors. they just don't have an enshrined right to weapons. they don't have a second amendment. we have too many guns in too
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many hands and the horse was left the barn. strangely, it will be the gun and ammo industries that benefit in the short-term from an event like in indianapolis because some americans will think restrictions are coming, better stockpile! well, i have news for those who worry about their access to weapons in america. relax! nothing is in jeopardy. how am i so sure? nothing happened after sandy hook in 2012. 26 people lost their lives, including 20 children between the ages of 6 and 7. how about this? if you define a mass shooting four or more people, excluding the gunman are shod a cnn markets the indianapolis incident as the 45th mass shooting in the united states since the atlanta area spa shootings on march 16. even if you broaden the definition of mass shooting to four or more fatalities more
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than 25 combined by the violence project according to "the new york times." august 3rd, 2019, 23 people shod in a walmart in el paso, texas. 12 hours later, in dayton, ohio, 20 people were killed in less than 60 seconds by a gunman. october, 18, a killing in a synagogue in pittsburgh. then may 16, santa fe, new mexico. the most practical thing i've heard comes from a comedian. steven colbert. >> regulate guns like alcohol and you have to have registration and insurance for your gun. if you move to a new state you
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have to do the whole damn thing over again and you can't go out loaded. >> makes sense to me. i want to remind you to go to my website and answer this pessimistic survey question. it's a statement. the united states will never solve its problem of mass shootings. agree or disagree with that. up ahead, today, the royal family will pay their respects to their beloved patriarch with a small, no-fuss funeral, the way he wanted it. we will watch the body language between brothers william and harry. who better to discuss this with than princess diane's former chief of pass and secretary patrick jeffson. he joins me next. really? i'll check that out. oh yeah. i think i might get a quote. not again! aah, come on rice. do your thing.
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prince philip will be laid to rest today at st. george's chapel of a intimate gathering
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of 30. the queen had prince philip along her side for 73 years. it comes a difficult time for the family following harry and meghan's exit. joining me for a unique royal perspective is patrick jeffson who served as diana's chief of staff and personal secretary and host of "the crown." and the book "the magazinehan factor." patrick, how would he want us to remember him? >> i supposed the most important this remember, first and foremost, it's a family occasion and private. by prince philip's own express wish, it's low key. of course, covid has made it even more low key and reducing the number of mourners. everybody is wearinging masks and there will be social
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distancing. i think makes it more relevant during the year of the pandemic when so many people have lost beloved grandparents and elderly spouses. >> being will be watching the body language between the brothers. speak to that. >> yes. it's a great opportunity for body watching. as i said, they will be wearing masks. so i'm afraid the lip readers will be disappointed. there is a lot to be said about the current rift between prince william and prince harry, but the reality, i can speak from experience having been so many royal crises during my time with princess diana. what we are seeing may be the truth but it's not the whole story. there will be things going on behind the scenes and there will be contact and there will be discussions. funerals can be a great opportunity for families to heal this kind of rift. they can also be an opportunity to make these rifts worse.
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i think most people are hoping there will be a chance for the brothers seeing each other for the first time in more than a year to at least establish some kind of affectionate reconnection. >> what did you read into the statements. >> i think they rather uniquely sum up the position the brothers are in now. prince harry's statement, very sincere, very much from the heart. remembering his grandfather as a fun, jokey, informer sort of guy, he refers to him as a serviceman, thanks him for his service which, of course, he is among the most distinguished service we have seen in recent years. but it also contrasts with
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prince william's statement of respect, remembrance for his grandfather where prince william says he and his wife will renew their work for the queen. of course, the whole purpose of the royal family is to work for the queen. it's to support the queen. quite obviously prince harry has decided to interpret that duty by going to california and prince william has stayed home and he and his wife and family reaffirming their support for the queen and recalling prince phillip's own robust approach to royal duties and his statement by saying his grandfather would like them to get on with the job. the job, in this case, is the job of supporting the queen, of upholding royal duties where they matter, at home in the uk. the job, as interpreted by prince harry, has taken him elsewhere and i think that defines the gap between the
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brothers. >> you were princess diana's chief of staff. they had her only problems with the, so-called, firm. what role did prince philip play in navigate those issues? what did you see up close and personal? >> prince philip has a well-earned and in many ways well-deserved reputation straight from the shoulder kind of guy and salty shoulder and calls things as he sees them and not very touchy-feely and not very emotionallyw aware or articulate. under neath that figure, he has shown himself to be a thoughtful and deeply spiritual man. when things were going badly wrong between princess diana and his son phillip. he wrote several letters to the princess that she shared with
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me. i was struck by how sincere was his desire to to help these young people through their difficulty. but it just goes to show the limitations of some forms of communication. she interpreted his words as is being critical. and i suppose that underlines the importance of face-to-face, contact, face-to-face interaction and real communication where the tone of voice can be heard and the look in the eye can be seen, because diana and phillip when they were together in happier times got along really well and it's a real sadness that his attempt to intervene, to help them probably came too late and was probably the victim of communication difficulties between generations. >> patrick, my knowledge of the princess is limited to what i learned from the crown which i love and you're a consultant to that project. but i do recognize that he sacrificed his own career. you regard him as a navy man and i'm sure how he most would want to be called.
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all of that was sort of put on a pedestal so that he could perform his royal function. >> well, he has been called one of the first real feminists because there he was every inch a man's man who embarked on his vocation. a lifelong career in the royal navy, something he loved. he gave it up at a very early stage in order to support his wife in her work. and in some ways, i think the crown reflects this very accurately. it was a huge sacrifice on his part, yet one he made in the interests of serving his country. and he took that setback and turned it into something better. he took his own frustration, turned it into productive work for the benefit, not just of the monarchy but for the commonwealth and a whole load of really important causes around the world. everything from conservation to engineering.
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he was an extraordinary polymath. a man of enormous wide ranging interests and he was determined to make a difference and, my goodness, he did in the course of nearly a century. >> patrick jephson, thank you fots for the insight. so unique and a privilege to have you. >> thank you, michael. the funeral is 30 minutes from now and will be brought to you on cnn. still to come, when you go to vote, they match your signature, right? governor ron desantis wants to toughen up florida standards. turns out his own signatures rarely look the same. in a moment, i will show you my own. plus, what makes someone a hero? even though navy admiral supervised the ops that killed osama bin laden. the admiral is here to explain. i'm sure you recall his life lesson? one that i follow.
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lessons learned from lives well lived." serving as a navy s.e.a.l. 30 years and his final sint was commander of all u.s. special forces. troops under his command brought osama bin laden to justice. he gave a commencement speech at the university of texas he spoke about the importance of making your bed every morning. not long after delivering that address he became the chancellor of the university of texas system, his alma mater. i'm concerned for you in the following respect. i want you to live to be 150. that epithet the bed thing or bin laden i like both. >> people tell me to make my bed. i'm okay with that.
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>> i got up at 4:30 this morning. not with you on the brain but i made sure that bed was made. i love the new book. i found it interesting you're known as a navy man but you were a journalism major. i guess you're kind of picking up where you left off before you joined the military. >> well, when i started at the university of texas, i quickly found out that i couldn't do science, i couldn't do math, i couldn't do accounting. so i end up in journalism and found out that i could put words together and they seemed to make sense. so it was the right path for me to take. >> we won't give it all away for free. but some of the stories really stand out in the new book. dr. kenneth cooper is a very famous cardiologist, people associate with aerobics. he jinvites you to dinner. what happened? >> this was a couple of years ago. it was up in dallas. as you point out, dr. cooper invited me up. we a small private dinner before the event that i was going to speak at. at the table was dr. cooper and
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roger staubach, the former quarterback from the dallas cowboys and his wife mary ann. i introduced myself and i came to the last couple around the table and he told me his name was charlie and his wife was dottie. i didn't catch his last name. he with sat down for dinner and talked an hour and a half and charlie was very engaging and fa found out in the course of the conversation he had been in the air force but all of the evening discussions was based on me, he wanted to about my children and wanted to know how i met my wife and talk about my career. i couldn't seem to get much out of him. after the dinner is over, he invites me to his home. i'm walking out. roger staubach comes out to me and say i see you were talking to charlie. yeah, just a wonderful, wonderful guy. staubach said, can you imagine that? i said what? can you imagine that?
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>> imagine that. >> walking on the moon! then it occurred to me charlie was general charles duke, the youngest man ever to walk on the moon! not once, not once in that hour plus conversation did he ever happen to mention the little small fact that he walked on the moon! the story really is about humility. you know? here is a man who could be, you know, boisterous and outspoken. he became a christian and his wife was a christian and i think that put life in perspective for him. >> the stories are great in the book. the serious message that i took away is that times we elevate those who might not be heroes. we celebrate celebrity status. and we overlook people. the pandemic is a great example, admiral. who are deserving of that kind of recognition. >> yeah.
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i mean, the point of the book, as you point out, michael, there are heroes everywhere. and we can become heroes. every nation needs heroes. heroes inspire us and they inspire the younger generation, frankly, to try to be better than the current generation and that is what moves us forward. this book is about, you know, the qualities, the traits, and the virtues of being a hero and you can learn these virtues and i have seen these noble qualities in team all around the world. you're right. you don't have to be a celebrity but you can certainly learn to be a hero and we need to continue to admire these great folks. during the pandemic, of course, you saw the health care workers, you saw the delivery people, you saw the first responders, heroes were everywhere and we are blessed in this country to have so many great heroes. >> another quick one, if you don't mind. president obama makes a surprise visit on your watch to afghanistan. you're called upon in short order to brief him because he
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gets trapped by bad weather. what happened? >> so i hop in this convoy. i'm told i got a few minutes to get over to brief the president and my convoy moves from my little place across the street ab we get to the back gate. young woman is guarding the back gate and i'm sitting in the back seat of my suv and i look and the sergeant gets out and goes up to the woman to explain that, you know, the admiral is here to brief the president. i can see them talking a little bit. before long, you know, arms are moving and watches are being tapped and the sergeant storms back and he says, she won't let us in because we are not on the approved list because it was last minute. the sergeant major gets out of the car, the senior enlisted guys and talks to the woman and very calm. before long, arms are moving again and watches are being tapped. he storms back! finally, i said, okay, boys, i got this. so i get out of the car. i go up to talk to the young lady and i said,, you know, airman, you know, i'm a
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three-star admiral and i'm here to brief the president and, i mean, my briefing time is now. you know? i really need you to let us through. and she says, well, sir, i understand that, but you're not on the approved list and i have a job to do! i took a deep breath. i went back to the car. about ten minutes later, the gate opens up and we go through. i brief the president and he never asked why i was late. on my way back i stop by the gate and get out of the car and i walk back up to this airman. and i've got this scowl on my face and i said, airman, do you realize that i was ten minutes late briefing the president of the united states? i said, i was late because when my sergeant asked you, you wouldn't let us through. when the sergeant major asked you is you wouldn't let us through and i'm a three-star admiral, you still wouldn't let us through! then i reached into my pocket. i pulled out the command challenge coin. you know, michael, you only give that to soldiers who have done
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exceptional work. i put it in her hand, and i said, "you did exactly what you needed to do." she looked me in the eye and she said, sir, i was just doing my duty! and the chapter is about duty. we think about the incredible duty of a john mccain and we think about others we know but duty is doing your job and it's not just doing your job because you were blindly following orders. it is doing your job because you have a responsibility to yourself and to the people around you. and it's the little things that matter sometimes in life and doing your duty is one of these great noble qualities. >> i love that story! the book is called "the hero code." i wish you all good things, admiral. >> thank you, michael. in order to vote, election officials match your signature to one on file, right? but which one? how many of you are like me and mine have a bit of variety in the way you sign your john hancock? should this harm our ability to cast a ballot? and i want to remind you to make
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florida governor ron desantis political stock is rising. the tampa bay times caught my attention. currently, to verify the signature on a mail-in ballot florida officials have been comparing it to all available signatures on file which, in some cases, could be more than a dozen. in february, desantis declared we need to make sure our citizens have confidence in the elections that they have the ability to vote, we want, obviously, everyone to vote but we don't want anyone to cheat. he demanded reforms that
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included matching vote-by-mail signatures to only the most recent signature on file with the state department of elections. now the florida state senate is considering a bill to do just that. meanwhile, an investigation by the tampa bay times found that governor desantis signature has varied wildly over the years. the times reported that lx.com and nbc news website found desantis 2016 ballot was rejected because his signature did not match the one on file with the state. when he went to cure his 2016 ballot it was rejected as well. the times reached out to desantis office but did not get a response. daniel smith at university of florida studies the voter signature matching laws. his research shows that counties apply signature rules unevenly
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and mismatches occur more often with students and minorities. he said, quote. it got me thinking about my own signature where i vote in montgomery county, pennsylvania, they compare a voter's signature, whether in-person or on a mail-in ballot application, to the signature on file between your driver's license or most recent voter registration. this issue made me dig up examples of my own signatures over the years and compare to my most recent driver's license. the results are illuminating beginning with my 1982 college flyer that identified me as mike. then here is one on the philadelphia move commission. here i am looking in 1990 for a radio gig. this is the way in 2008 i signed one of my books. in january of 2020, january of
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2020, i renewed my driver's license the so-called smart i.d. there is my signature in a real estate transaction later last year. and this check that i wrote in march to an intern. finally, a card that i sent this week to the judge in the chauvin trial. i think he is doing a nice job and i wanted to complement hip. let's chem all out side-by-side, shall we? would any of these other signatures be close enough to my license to permit me to vote? i know there are all mine. would the county board of elections let me vote? perhaps like governor desantis, i question signature matching as a means of ensuring ballot security. i have no problem requesting a photo i.d. just so long as it's the type of photo identification that is possessed by every member of a community. still to come, more of your
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did i bum you out with today's survey question at smerconis smerconish.com? sorry about that. let's see the result of the
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survey question. the united states will never solve its problem with gun violence. i'm just not feeling it in the aftermath of indianapolis. katherine, time for one, i think. social media, what do we have? the rule is in order to get over a problem you have to admit you have one. until everyone admits the problem exists in america, we will continue to have a mass shooting problem. i think there is truth in that, anthony r hutchinson, ii. piers morgan said as much and he is getting ridiculed what he said go u.s. gun culture and some of us have a staunch appearance there is no reason to compromise and that is unfortunate. hasthat does it for me. mourners around the world will pay tribute to the funeral of
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prince philip. his wife of more than seven decades. our live coverage begins right now. ♪ we have a spectacular view of the grounds at windsor castle, the country home of queen elizabeth. soon it will be a final rest of place of her beloved husband prince philip who spent 99 years to service in ground.