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country. the former police officer is a convicted murderer, he's in jail right now, our special coverage will continue of course throughout the night. e erin burnett "out front" picks it up right now. ♪ good evening, i am erin burnett, our breaking news coverage continues. the george floyd's family sp speaking. i want to get to sara sidner. she's joined by george floyd's brother, philonise, sara, please take it away. >> reporter: philonise, you have been here in the trial and you
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have been in the court which have few people have been in. what was it like for you today. you have seen so much in court and all the bad things that happened to your brother. what was it like from hearing t from the jury today? it >> it was a bit of relief, i paced back and forth before i went into the courtroom. i have faith and i believe in god so i was optimistic and i kept on saying we'll get justice, we'll get it. just sitting in there and listening to those words, guilty. guilty. and guilty on all counts, that was a moment that i will never be able to relive. i will always have inside of me. just being able to know that is justice for african-american people, just people of color,
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period. this is monumental. this is historic. this is a pivotal moment in history. all i can think about is e emmitt till, i think of sandra bland, i think of miss carr. i think of deoaunte wright. i think of philando castile. we all need justice. we are all fighting for one reason and it is justice for all. today has been an occasion where people can celebrate but tomorrow is back to business because we have to stay steps ahead of everything.
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employ ro and we'll keep pushing and keep fighting. >> reporter: you have been fighting for the george floyd's justice, can you give me a sense of the most different cicult ti you as you watch the trial in person, what was the hardest thing for you? >> it was difficult just watching the videos over and over and over and over again. i watched my brother being executed day after day, modern day lynching. sitting in that courtroom, i knew my lord savior us in there and george was in there. george always said "never give up," that day when the officer had his knee on his neck, george had no choice but to give up.
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he shuts down his brother. my brother, man. he didn't deserved it. he has changed the world like his daughter said, gianna. we'll see his legacy all around the world. if you can make federal laws to protect a bird which is a bald eagle, you can make federal law to protect people of color. man, this is a day of victory. we are victorious and my family and i we are going to go and we are going to pray even more after this because we owe it to one man and that's jesus. i can say it again, jesus. good god all mighty. >> thank you so much. >> reporter: thank you so much for talking to me. i know i had a moment i felt awkward about because i called
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you and said "the verdict has come in," did you know already? >> i didn't know at the time. social media started showing it and i was like wow, it is really a verdict. it is fast. it was less than 24 hours. >> reporter: a little more than 10 hours. >> it is just a great time. he's been with you. >> reporter: i know he's been with you all this time and you have all these people around you all of these times. will you get some sleep? you have been telling me you just can't get enough sleep, you can't go to bed, why is that? >> justice. so many african-americans, we never get justice but today, i don't want to sleep. >> celebrate. we are celebrating. >> it is like we won the championship. we are going to sleep but we still have to fight.
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daunte wright, we are on all those missions right now. we are going to sleep and we still got to work. that's one of this things we see everybody running from the world. we carry the cross. >> he said it all. >> reporter: philonise, i thank you, i know this does not bring george back but you have been asking for justice and you got the verdict. thank you, i appreciate it. >> thank you. >> reporter: philonise floyd talking to us what it was like inside that court. there were few people in the court watching this happened. he was there many, many days. he just expressed how this has been for him, hard but he always had faith and that's why he's generally more calm than many other people. it is interesting to note as i talked to him throughout this year, he's always the calm one and i have been the nervous one wondering what's going to happen. erin. >> i mean you know, just so you know the president of the united states is going to be addressing
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the nation speaking in just a moment here. i know you talked to philonise so many times and he has prepared different outcomes here but to see the emotions he feels was powerful. i can see it was for you, too, as you were there when the protests happened a year ago. what is this day like as a reporter covering this? >> reporter: it is surreal. it is one of those things where there is an anticipation where you are nervous and you are awaiting for the verdict like everybody else. it is our job to talk to the
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people and reaction to that verdict. all the people who are here and been in george floyd's square and all of the people who have been fieghting for this for a listening time, they were walw waiting for this verdict and they're going to react. they told me this place is going to blow if we don't get justice, there will be no peace. knowing that, that's reality, all right, the vice president is coming forward. i will throw it back to you. >> erin. >> let's listen to the vice president, here is vice president harris. >> i want to thank mr. floyd's family for your steadfastness. today we feel a sigh of relief. still, it can't take away the pain. a measure of justice is no t th same as equal justice. this verdict brings us a step
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closer. we still have work to do. we still have to reform the system. last summer with senator cory booker, i introduced george floyd justice release act. this would hold law enforcement accountable and help build trust between law enforcement and our communities. this bill is part of george floyd's legacy. the president and i will continue to urge the senate to pass this legislation, nota -- . black americans and black men in particular have been treated throughout the course of our country less than humans.
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black men are fathers and brothers and sons and uncles and grandfathers, and friends, and neighbors, their lives must be valued in our education system and our healthcare system and our housing system and our economic system and our criminal justice system in our nation full stop. because of smartphones so many have seen the racial injustice that black americans known for generations. the racial injustice that we have fought for generations, and that my parents protested in the 1950s and millions of us, americans of every race protested last summer.
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here is the truth about racial injustice, it is not just a black america problem or a people of color problem. it is a problem for every american. it is keeping us from fulfilling the promise of liberty and justice for all. it is holding our nation back from realizing our full pote potential. we are all apart of george floyd's legacy and our job now is to honor it and to honor him. thank you. now it is my great honor to introduce the president of the united states, justioe biden .
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>> today the jury of minnesota found the former police officer, derek chauvin guilty on all counts in the murder of of george floyd. it was a murder full lighted day and it ripped the blinders off for the whole world to see. this is systematic racism that the vice president just referred to. systematic racism is a stain on our nation's soul. the knee on the neck, justice for black americans, the fear and trauma, the pain, the exhaustion of black and brown americans experience every single day. the murder of george floyd launched this summer's protests. we had not seen since the civil
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rights here in the '60s. protests that unified everybody of every race and peaceful purpose to say "enough, enough of this senseless killings." today's verdict is a step forward. i just spoke to the governor of minnesota, i also spoke to george floyd's family again, remarkable family of extraordinary courage. nothing can ever bring their brother, their father back. but, this can be a giant step forward in the march towards justice in america. let's also be clear that such a verk
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verdict is so too rare. a brave young woman with a smartphone camera, a crowd that's traumatized, traumatized witnesses, a murder that lasted almost 10 minutes in broad daylight for the whole world to see. officers standing up and testifying against a fellow off officer, should be commended. the jury carrying out their civic duties in the midst of extraordinary moments under extraordinary pressure. for so many, it feels like it took all of that for the judicial system to deliver just basic accountability. we saw how traumatic and
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exhausting just watching the trial was for so many people. think about it, think about how it was traumatic for you, you were not there and you didn't know any of the people. but it was difficult especially for the witnesses having to relive that day. it is a trauma. on top of the fears so many people live with everyday when they go to sleep at night and pray for the safety of themselves and their loved ones. again, as they saw in this trial from a fellow police officer who testified, most men and women who wear the badges serve their communities honorably. those few who failed to meet those standards must be held accountable and they were today. one was. no one should be above the law.
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today's verdict sends that message. it is not enough. we can't stop here. in order to deliver real change and reform, we can't and we must do more to reduce the likelihood that tragedies like this will never occur again. to ensure black and brown people or anyone so they don't fear interactions with law enforcement but they don't have to wake up knowing they're going the lose their very life in the course of living their life. they don't have to worry about whether their sons or daughters will come home after a grocery store run or walking down the street or driving their car or just sleeping at home. this takes acknowledging and confronting head on, systematic racism and the racial disparity that exists in policing and criminal justice system more
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broadly. you know state and local government and law enforcement need to step up but so does the federal government. that's why i have appointed the leadership of the justice department i have. that's fully committed to restoring trust between law enforcement and the community they are sworn to serve and protect. i have complete confidence in the attorney general, general garland leadership and commitment. i have also nominated two key justice department nominees, vanita gupta or chris clark who are highly qualified fighting for racial, equity and justice. vanita and christian has the experience and skills to advance and root out unconstitutional policing and reform our criminal
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justice system. they deserved to be confirmed. we also need congress to act. george floyd was murdered a year ago. there is meaningful police reform legislation under his name. you just heard the vice president speaks of it, she helps write it. ensuring law enforcement and the people they entrusted to protect. it should not take a whole year to get it done. my conversation with the floyd's family, i spoke to them again today. i assure them we'll continue to fight for the path of george floyd's policing act so i can sign laws quickly as possible. there is more to do finally it is the work we do everyday to change hearts and minds as well as laws and policies. that's the work we have to do.
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only then we'll full of justice and quality delivered to all americans. that's what i just discussed with the floyd's family. the guilty verdict does not bring back george, but through the family's pain we are finding purpose so george's legacy will not be just about his death but about what we must do in his memory. i also spoke to gianna, george's young daughter. i said last year at george's funeral. i told her how brave i thought she was. i knelt down and held her hand, i said "daddy is looking down at you so proud." she told me "daddy changed the
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world." i told her this afternoon "daddy did change the world." let that be his legacy. violent protests is not. there are those who'll seek to exploit the raw emotions of the moment. a agitators and extremists who have no interests in social justice, who seek out to fan the flames of hate and division. we can't them succeed. this is a time for this country to come together to unite as americans. we can never be any save harbor for hate in america. i said it many times, the battle
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soul of this nation has been a constant push/pull for more than 200 years. the harsh reality of racism has long torn us apart. at our best the american ideals win out. we can't leave this moment and a th thinking our work is done. we have to look at those 9 minutes and 29 seconds, we have to listen, "i can't breathe," "i can't breathe," those were george floyd's last words. we can't let those words die with him. we have to keep hearing those words. we must not turn away. we can't turn away. we have a chance to begin to change trajectory in this
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country. it is my hope and prayer that we live up to his legacy. may god bless you. may god bless george floyd and his family. thank you for taking the time to be here. this can be a moment of significance change. thank you. >> you just heard president biden and vice president harris addressing the nation on the back of the verdict of the case of george floyd's. obviously, an emotional and powerful delivery. the president talking about that moment today when he spoke to george floyd's daughter and said "your father did change the world." i think also important to note that he did point out that this took a unique and extraordinary convergence of factor for this
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gu guilty verdict to happen. out front now, president of people for the american way. stephanie rawlings-blake, elie honig and -- ben, let me start with you. derek chauvin found guilty of all three counts. a moment to call for action from the president. i felt a significant point that he made, he wanted to point out that this took a unique and extraord extraordinary c factor.
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there is a lot to be done. >> that's absolutely right. a lot of folks around the country, the question is what do we need to do in our local area to be safe in our cities and counties. in minneapolis, the police union has been referred to as a white supremacist group by minnesota. what does it say about the state of membership of the department? we know in most departments we are told that 10% of the officers were bad, have a series of problems and many are not standing up to them and 70% of them are silent. can you be truly good if you don't have the courage to police your fellow officers. that's why it is so important why we stay engaged. >> mayor rawlings-blake, what's
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your reaction that we heard from president biden, what's your reaction? did it meet the moment? >> i definitely think our vice president and president met the moment and it made me so grateful and made sure we have a compassionate president at the white house. i can't imagine what this moment would have been with our previous president and that being said, i don't want us to lose sight of something that the family have said or the president have said. we have to meet this moment with more than a verdict. it requires us to be vigilant and make sure that the justice po policing act processed in
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congress. if it is not, we need to be pushing for police reform, justice has to be more than just a verdict. it has to be about showing up when the cameras are not there and when there is no protests and showing up and testifying and pushing elected officials to do more when it comes to police reform and forcing the police union to have a response. we have not hear from police officials. >> you know john, to the point that president biden made that it took a unique factor including the jury under extraordinary pressure to return this verdict. it took all of that to return justice. he's raising the point that there is a lot more to be done here. you have felt this in your career, disappointment and the case of rodney king and oscar grant who was killed by a police officer, who said he mistook his gun by a taser. you said it at the beginning of this trial would be hard to
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convict, it did take them 10 hours and they did convict on all three charges. what is your reaction now when you hear this verdict? >> i am quite relieved for the verdict as i listen ed to the evidence, i was certain there is plenty of evidence. what i was concerned about at the time that the defense would demonize george which they tried to do when they talked ab about -- that was an effort to demonize him and that's what happens in a lot of play book. let me say this. this case is a culmanation of a lot of play book c, we had a ve diverse jury, we had prosecutors and police officers all on the same page. this progress in that sense where it carries over to the next case and who knows but i do
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think like others have said it is opportunity for all of us to work together. you got to have andr agenda and meet the people where they are and we got to put pressure on the police chief and command staff. it can't happen and it has taken this long. if we continue to work and push forward for it to occur. i am happy about the results. >> jurors came to this verdict after ten hours of deliberations. they did not ask the judge a single question. it would seem that they were quickly on the same page, you know, what did you read of the 10 hours into not asking a question. >> this tells me the jury did their job. the prosecution put on a straightforward compelling powerful case. this is an important moment to appreciate the power of the jury in our system. don lemon said "we are a symbol of democracy of the world ".
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the world is watching. it is not the white house, it is the jury. we don't do expert jury in this country or professional jury in this country. our injuries are drawn everydayf women and men and they come in and do their jobs. we saw it in action today. all of you please stay with me. obviously the reaction here in minneapolis and across this country, people are reacting to this verdict. the initial scene cheers and hug and tears and prayers, relief and we are seeing it build at this hour. miguel marquez is out front where the third police precinct was burned down over the summer and you can see the peaceful crowd celebrating. miguel, where you are, you have been talking to some of them, tell me what you are seeing and what's happening.
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>> reporter: everybody we spoke to thought it would be guilty of all charges. to hear it though, this city erupted in elation. let me show you at downtown minneapolis, there is a massive crowd has gathered. it is everybody. it is african-american, it is whites, it is indigenous people, it is asians, it is latinos. just a massive crowd out here. but, there was one moment, there was a young man who was announcing the verdict as the verdict came down. i want to show you his reaction when he read that. >> this is a moment in america's history. this has been so hard for everybody. everybody has been fighting and
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everybody wants this to happen and it happened. this is a moment for us. i am so grateful and thankful. thank you, god! >> reporter: that level of shock. that level of disbelieved that this actually happened. people really here believing it is a step forward but we are not sure where it is going. you can see the hope and the crowd here tonight is that this is a step in the right direction and not just for george floyd or not just for those extreme cases but justice across the board and for those everyday transactions between law enforcement and african-americans and people of color everywhere across this country. this case sent shivers through every spine and across the country as well. >> interestingly as you say. they all expected it and believed it would happen but we are still shocked and so visibly
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and emotionally moved when they heard it. we are going to go back to miguel. i want to go back into that room. the people who were in the room as this was read by the jury. the jury is there. we have new details of what happened off camera and inside that courtroom. again, just to make sure you all understand, the 12 men and women took ten hours. they found former officer chauvin guilty of second-degree murder and third-degree murder, and guilty of second-degree man slaughter. josh was there and you were there and everyone was sigh lelsilence.
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tell us what happened. we only saw derek chauvin's response. you saw so much more. tell me. >> reporter: i will say it that i don't consider myself someone as dramatic, i can not remember being in a room where the tension is so p-- nearly everyoe in that room was exhibiting some kind of physical signs they knew how serious this moment was. at the defense table, chauvin sat there with his attorney with no notes and at one point, chauvin looking down and dazed off. it was almost like he was just staring and snapped out of it and finally realizing his attorney was talking to him, i was wondering what was going through his mind at that moment, this was before that verdict was read. their part, the jury completely
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still, no emotions and no respond after it was read. i don't know if that was something they discussed in advance. each of them have been very in their own way but they were all still and calmed and just watching the verdict. there was anxiety at the prosecution table especially on the part of steve fleischer, he was the most nervous american i saw in that courtroom looking around and no doubt an anxiety waiting to take place. the most movement moment was watching philonise floyd, he spent the entire hearing in prayers, except when he was staring at derrick chauvin across the room. when the verdict was read on all
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three of those counts, he sat with his hands covering his face in prayers and as each was read, guilty, guilty, guilty, his hands were shaking uncontrollably. i can tell you i caught up with him after that moment and i asked him, i said what were you praying for? everyone in the room was the only person in that room who's not paying attention with his eyes of what was taking place. he was sitting there in prayers. he said to me "i was praying they would find him guilty." and he said "as an african-american we would never get justice" and he had a phone call from president biden. he said something which -- you
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go back to george floyd's daughter, gianna, the president brought her name up, that daddy changed the world. the last thing i want to say, that was all the prosecution and that was the family and other major moment we are seeing, officers walked up to derek chauvin afterwards. mr. chauvin, please place your hands behind your back, he was taken away. someone who used to work in the criminal justice system found guilty by the colleagues he used to work with after this murder. >> we just showed that moment. i found that moment powerful and poignant. what happened in the room? everybody's reaction to that moment and chauvin himself. the cameras were on him, we saw and as viewers with no emotions.
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he was stoic throughout it. did you see anything different and what did you see from others in the room at that moment? >> reporter: the only reaction i saw and everyone was either in some state of shock or finally we had this resolution on what that verdict would be but two people who were showing emotions, philonise floyd, he went from prayers to crying and afterwards, the judge were giving each other hugs and philonise hugs and back to steve, his eyes were turning red, he was hugging philonise floyd, just incredible moment. it was over, sometimes the wheel turns slowly and here we got a verdict today and that trial ended and we now know what the resolution was in this trial. >> josh, thank you so much for that taking us in that room.
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it adds so much because we only have the camera view. everyone back with me. elie, let me give you a chance to react to josh's reporting. never been in a room with so much palpable tension in that room. >> individual's liberty is at stake and the sanctity of our system is at stake. most importantly is the victim's family. of course you can never undo what's been done. you can never bring their loved ones back. this is all they have. the hope of getting justice and accountability from a trial jury of everyday citizen. that's what josh saw today in
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that courtroom. >> ben, one thing this all happened of course the original report that you know someone had died because of medical condition while indianapolis custody, right? the reason we know this was different because of by stander videos, the 17-years-old girl, she filmed the 9 minutes and 29 seconds and posted to social media. that's how we know about this. and yet, vice president harris, she brings it up tonight, this is all because of smartphones. i raise the point that we have had smartphones for quite some time and videos for quite some time but this is the only time it has ended this way. that's significant of course. >> it truly is. you think about all of the movements that had to be built in order for this moment to happen, all the activists and the streets, keith ellison running for office becoming the first black chief prosecutor of the state and yet it should not
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take all of that. we won't be done in our work, we have to see this as a beginning and not an end until george floyd's daughter with confeidene know that she will be safe throughout her life. that's why it is so important that we stay on the streets and keep organizing and make sure we actually don't just try what we have tried before and has failed but actually have the courage to try new things. >> mayor rawlings-blake. you can see the screen here, a peaceful crowd gathered and celebrating and happy. we are seeing that across the country. that's important and that's significant. it also stood out to me that president biden even in the face of knowing that the crowds in the streets are happy with this took the point to say that violence is not welcomed and that there could be agitators and extremists to destroy
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property and loot and that was not welcomed. i thought it was significance he made a point of saying that and what we are seeing tonight and thus far is peaceful and crowds celebrating an incredible moment. >> i think it is important for him to say that because the voice of the community that is impacted by the looting and the violent protesters are often unheard because we understand the frustration of our community dealing with injustice, i think too many of us turned a blind eye to the impact it had when businesses are closed because that i have been looted and because they have been destroyed. many of them don't come back. that's something that we can't forget because that's a community that's been doubly impacted by the violence in this
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community. >> john, let me ask you about the sentencing here and i briefly laid out some of the ranges that in minnesota sentencing guidelines for both second-degree and third-degree murders are 12 and a half years and you can get up to four years for man slaughter, this can all be served concurrently. you can get a tougher sentence if there is aggravatining facto. chauvin waived the rights and put that on the judge. so when you look at the sentencing guidelines, what do you think happens here? this is all on the judge, right? the range of 12.5 to 40 years is a huge range and it is now all
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on the judge. >> the judge actually, you know, how he fell about this case is hard to say because i thought he did a decent job of being unbiassed but he himself i am certainly will be motivated by the officer's conduct in the way he dealt with george floyd and in terms of his disinterested and trying to provide care. the judge could find these aggravating factors and increase the sentence. i suspect that he will. all these sentences can run concurrently which means the most he's going to get is maybe 12 except the aggravation. i can see that's 5 or 10 years more in getting this up to 20 years range. that's an option the judge has here and the aggravation is pretty strong there. the other aggravating factor is may be the fact that he has of
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his record. it seems those can be aggravating factors as well even though they were not brought into court. they are conditions like they do in other cases. what were they doing? you can't necessary use them as evidence factually but you can incorporate them if you want to ak va aggravate the case. i think the community would not be satisfied if he got a modest se sentence of 12 years. the judge himself would want to increase it. remember this, the fbi when they tried to put a sentence for 10 years, the fbi and the attorney general says no, that was not enough. 10 years was not enough so 12 years is not going to be enough now. i could see it would be increased significantly.
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>> thank you to all. across the country, we have been showing you. people are gathering to mark this moment. omar jimenez live outside the cup foods store, i know you talked to a lot of people inside the store that day and there is a crowd there tonight. what are people telling you and what are you hearing behind you? >> reporter: frankly, they look at this as a new day in america for people here and when you pan around to the crowd, this is the intersection where some of george floyd's final moments played out. it is amazing when you contrast that, his body was under the knee of derek chauvin's a year ago and this is his legacy this day where that police officer was convicted on all charge and it became a convicted murder and
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conclusion many people here felt they knew will ever the verdict was read. hundreds shown up to the scene. one of the men broke down in tears as he reacted or saw the news. he said that his mind, before that verdict was read went back to rodney king. he said we saw what happened and the officer got off. when that verdict was read, he completely could not believe it and broke down in tears and described it as a new day. i want to keep the camera over here towards where the makeship memorial for george floyd. in the sea of people was the final resting place in many ways of george floyd under the knee of derek chauvin. one thing to note in this is
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frazier who pushed record on that video. it is wild to believe that if she had not press record on that video, you would question where this case would be. many people protesting in the streets for nearly a year now saying they're not confident that the prosecution would have been as it was if it was not for the pressure of the people trying to make sure these officers, chauvin would be held accountable. what we heard, we are hearing stories coming from various speakers. one message struck through all this, while they feel it is a victory, they feel the work is not done here. one of the persisting chants we heard is one down, three two seeing right now the verdict of
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all guilty for derek chauvin is a site that many here wanted to see for a long time and this feels like a day of vindication almost a year after george floyd's death right where i am standing right now. >> omar, thank you very much. minutes ago, george floyd's brother getting very emotional as he compared his brother's death to a horrifying murder. >> it has been a long journey and less than a year, the person that comes to my mind was 1955, to me he was the first george floyd and that was emmitt till. >> wow. >> i did on cnn with debra watts and she just brought him back to life. people forgot about him but he
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was the first george floyd. >> the woman was mentioned, debra watts, is with me right now. >> your cousin was murdered by two white men who were acquitted, later admitted they were guilty. the late john lewis called emmitt till his george floyd. you know, i know you met philonise floyd while protesting floyd's death and you have been with him throughout the trial. i saw the emotional connection. she and her crew left after the interview and they came back to get something 40 minutes later, you are still talking and you were still talking and still together, what is your reaction today to the verdict that derek
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chauvin found guilty on all three counts? >> i am ecstatic and i knew this would happen, i knew it. i knew they would get it right. i am happy for the family and the country. i do know the work is not done. justice, we still have a lot more work to do to get justice for others as well. pleased, i'm so greatful for the jury, to the judge who will hopefully do the right thing here, they got it right, and i'm so happy for the floyd family because this is a moment, it's a watershed moment in our country and it's a moment that we can shout, you know, victory and justice did prevail in this case and i just know that we can begin to exhale but only for a little moment because we have more work to do. we have to turn things around in this country.
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we have to make things right. we have to stop the murder of black and brown bodies, and i'll tell you, we're still hoping for justice for emit teal and still going to pursue that courageously and we are determined to make sure that we right the wrongs of the past and that we pursue policies and laws that need to be turned around that need to be changed in this country but then also, that we hold dwayne richardson in mississippi, we hold him to the highest level that he has the responsibility to bring justice in emmet's case. i'm ecstatic for the floyd family and for all those that work so hard, the prosecution team and others, our community that spoke out, the front line, people in the protesters. i just hold them in my heart, and lift them up in prayer that
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they were all collectively a part of, i think, this victory, as well. >> so, you know, president biden today, you know, brought up talking to the floyd family and to george floyd's daughter, and i know that he called philonise floyd after the verdict was read. he was reacting to the counts of guilty with his hands in a steeple in front of him and shaking uncontrollably and the verdict comes and philonise's phone rings and it's president biden. i want to play a part of that call. >> hello? >> how is gianna doing. >> feeling better now. nothing is going to make it all better but at least now there is some justice. >> right. >> and, you know, i think of gee on that saying my daddy is going
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to change the world and change it now. >> right. >> so incredible. incredible family. i wish i were there around you. i'm standing here and we were talking and watching every second of this and the vice president, all of us and just -- we're all so -- [ inaudible ] guilty on all three counts. i'm anxious to see all you guys. we'll get a lot done. we'll do a lot. >> hopefully, this is the momentum for the george floyd justice and policing act to get past to have you sign. >> a lot more. a lot more. >> thank you, mr. president. >> this will be the first shot at dealing with genuine systemic
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racism. >> debra, you know, the call happening there, the president calls. it on speaker. he knows people are listening. what does it mean to you and say to you that president biden called, you know, we heard 90 seconds of it there but he called and that what he had to say to philonise floyd? >> you know, i think it's important. the president has, i think, demonstrated extreme leadership there, compassion, empathy and understanding also it sounds like he's willing to take on the responsibility to push things forward in our country and i am hopeful that he is going to be a person of his word. we have several bills that need to be a priority right now in the george floyd policing act, also anti lynching, h.r. 55, also there is a -- i'm hoping for a victims of racially motivated murder act that we've been trying to push that helps to relief some of the trama that
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families are experiencing. you know, there is about 150 families that are on the department of justice emit lewis teal, victims or civil rights crimes act and they have not receive d justice. so there is a lot of work to do. i'm excited for the floyd family. i am hopeful that our president, our vice president will take and the department of justice will take this on as a way to push things forward in our country because change must come. it must come immediately. >> all right. well, debra, i would appreciate your time. thank you very much. >> thank you. thank you so much. president biden, of course, moments ago you heard him live saying the jury in the derek chauvin trial sent a clear message to law enforcement across the country with the verdict tonight. >> most men and women athat wea the badge serve their communities honorably but those
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few who fail to meet that standard must be held accountable and they were today. one was. no one should be above the law and today's verdict sends that message. >> "outfront" now, the national president of the fraternal order of police. your organization called the trial fair and said the system of justice worked as it should. do you believe the jury got it right in the case of derek chauvin with the guilty an oall three counts? >> as a law enforcement officer, we were probably one of the first organizations that stepped forward and said, you know, this just doesn't look right, and we knew that and we had full faith in the criminal justice system. there was a trial and a trial, all the evidence was put forth and now we have a verdict and now we can go one step closer to getting past this very dark day in american history. we're very much committed in having the open dialogues and
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finding a path forward so we can have a better criminal justice system. >> so, you know, president biden, obviously says the verdict sends a message no one should be above the law. what message do you think this verdict sends to police officers across the country tonight who like every other american were watching this trial and of course, their case not knowing what they would be seeing tonight, but what's the message that they get from this? >> well, i just think we need to recognize one thing and that is there are about 800,000 men and women that put on a uniform every day and go out and protect their communities. this doesn't define the actions of the men and women that have dedicated their life to the protection of their communities. so i think all of us in law enforcement very much recognize that there are consequences to our actions, and we have faith in the criminal justice system. in this case, you know, this system the trial took place, all
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the evidence, they made a finding. that's the world we live in. >> let me ask you. part of the problem that exists is distrust that exists between some americans and some police, right? our own omar jimenez tweeted out something that makes this point, the title is quote man dies after medical incident during police interaction. says floyd physically resisted officers. it says that the officers noted he was suffering medical distress and called for an ambulance. you know, man dies in medical incident during police interaction is not what happened and not what we saw on video. so what do you make of that? that's what the world might have thought if it weren't for the video that came out, the 9
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minutes and 39 seconds of his knee on george floyd's neck, could that have stood as the record? >> well, i mean, look, absolutely concerns me and you bring up a very good point and that is that the powers that a law enforcement agency has in communities across the country is directly related to the trust within the communities and if we can take nothing away from this, it is clear we have a lot of work to do as a free society to come to terms with issues and it is going to take us sitting at a table having fact based and meaningful discussions to get past this. >> all right. patrick, appreciate your time and thank you very much. >> thank you. >> thanks very much to all of you for joining us as the breaking news coverage continues here on cnn. let's hand it off to anderson. good evening. this is what justice looks like tonight around the country and on the corner where george floyd was killed, murdered by former
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minneapolis police officer derek chauvin almost a year ago. this is how it looked and sounded as judge peter kayhill read the verdict. >> we the jury in the above and entitled murder count one unintentional second-degree murder find the defendant guilty at 1:44 p.m. signed juror foreperson, juror number 19. same caption, verdict count two, we the jury in the aboved entitled murder as to count two, third degree murder perpetrating an em anytimely dangerous act find the defendant guilty this verdict agreed to this 20th day of april, 2021 at 1:45 p.m. signed by jury foreperson juror number 19. same caption, verdict count three, we the jury in the above entitled matter as to count three second degree manslaughter culpable negligence creating an unreasonable risk find the defendant guilty
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