in the meantime, anderson and "ac 360" begin right now. and good evening. we begin tonight with the picture that to many will look like justice. former minneapolis police officer derek chauvin's booking photo released today wearing orange, not fblue. he's separated for his safety at a maximum prison security waiting for sentencing. it's neither the final word in his story nor certainly in the larger one. there will be sentencing in june for him. the trial with three other officers in august and now this. >> today, i am announcing that the justice department opened a civil incest gvestigation to dee whether the minneapolis police department engages in a practice of unconstitutional or unlawful policing.

most do their job lawfully and most police officers don't want to work in systems with bad practice. >> that pattern and practice will look at the same statistics shown today. they use force against black people at a highly disproportionate rate. in addition to everything that connected to the george floyd killing, there is an investigation into the fating shooting of daunte wright outside the city. his funeral is tomorrow. tension is rising in the wake of the federal shooting in columbus, ohio within minutes of the chauvin verdict and we should be clear up front, every incident is unique and not every use of deadly force by police is as clear cut or wrong as it was in the murder of george floyd. that said, whatever the final determination on it is, it is clearly a family tragedy and is for the moment being drawn into the larger sweep of events. that sweep including negotiations now underway over federal police reform

legislation. we'll speak with a lawmaker about that. in addition, there is backlash building primarily in red states passing laws, cracking down on prot protesters and in one state absolving drivers who hit them. we'll speak with spike lee on this moment on what dr. king called a long ark. in her first interview since derek chauvin was convicted, george floyd's sister bridget. thank you for being with us. it been a little more than 24 hours since the verdict was read. how are you and your family do doing? >> thank you for having me. i'm holding up a little better than i was. a little peace and just a little bit of joy. we had a guilty verdict but the thought was in the back of my

mind is really how much time will they give this officer? >> you're concerned about that obviously prosecutors have asked for aggravated or have argued a circumstances that would add more time to the mandatory or minimum sentence chowauvin coul receive by the verdict. for you, what would justice be? >> justice would be for derek to get the max sentence of each charge. that's justice for me. >> you know, as you and your family know better than anyone, guilty verdicts against police officers are very rare. did you yesterday morning think that he would be found guilty on all three counts? >> you know, i believe in the

man above very, very strongly, and i gave it to him, and i tried to let it go. the reason why i say it's because i still worried a little bit about what would happen because this is very, very rare. this has not happened in a long time or close to not at all, and so i was just on the edge of my seat yesterday. >> do you believe this is a -- the beginning of further change in this country? >> yes, i do believe that my brother has made an impact on the world going forward, yes. >> and there are a lot of

families who have experienced this kind of grief tragically who will experience it in the future no matter what happens in the days and the months and the years ahead. you know, sometimes people talk about closure and i always think that's a word that kind of is just made like a tesv word, for somebody that lost somebody, that pain never goes away or closes up. it may scar, may scar over, a wound may scar over but it never fully, fully heals. what would your message be to other people going through or scared about their loved one meeting the fate that george floyd met? >> to the families that have been through this, that are going through this, keep the faith. keep the faith and hold on and pray because prayer changes things and i want to also let

the families know that did not get justice for their loved one. george floyd, my brother, sacrificed his life that day and we not only got justice yesterday for him but we got justice for all families, all families that did not get justice for their loved ones and i mean that from the bottom of my heart. >> bridgett floyd, appreciate you speaking with us. thank you. >> thank you. i want to get more legal perspective from senior legal analyst and former federal prosecutor laura coats and former democratic chair tom perez who is significantly for us the former head of the civil rights justice department and former assistant attorney general. the case, the chauvin case is still far from over and sentencing is in eight weeks. what do you expect the

prosecution, defense to do to prepare for that and what legal tools do they have at their disposal? >> the next step is those aggravating factors you spoke about just now, anderson. the idea of three things, the power dynamic of having it be an officer to civilian and happened in front of children. george floyd being particularly vulnerable at the time this actually happened, as well. all of those contribute to the prosecution asking the judge to go above what's called the presumptive sentence of 12.5 years on the highest charge. sentencing guidelines essentially say look, we have a range of possibilities even when you have a maximum of 40 or 25 or 10 years, the judge has a lot of discretion in there and people that don't have a criminal history or background, what you would assume from a former police officer are going to fall on a range. it will be much lower than that but the judge can move it up. so you'll have an interview by somebody who will conduct an investigation or interview with derek chauvin and have a chance to talk about whether he is remorseful and has other factors that may take into consideration for a whole lisrehab billation .

we're about seight weeks ago. within 60days, they can appeal. >> as i mentioned, used to be head of the civil rights division at the justice department. can you walk us through what you expect this federal investigation into minneapolis policing looks like with resources, timeline, its potential to actually, you know, achieve change? >> yeah, absolutely. i participated and supervised dozens of these investigations and i think they are really important in changing culture. criminal prosecutions, anderson, are a necessary but insufficient condition of justice. in a pattern of practice investigation, a team of lawyers and experts, former police chiefs, use of force experts, accountability experts will come in. they will interview the -- everybody. they will conduct an investigation of the hiring

practices, use of force policies, training policies, are there early warning systems? one question that jumps off the page at me is how could derek chauvin -- he had over two dozen uses of force. why wasn't there an early warning system in place to say is there something wrong with this officer? these are the types of things they will look at and they will talk to the community. the community will have a seat at the table. it a critically important seat at the table. they will interview over 100 different stake holders, i guarantee you because i did new orleans, i did seattle, did big cases and that's how you do it. they will leave no stone unturned and then they will produce what's called a letter of findings which will address all of the issues they were looking at, use of force, hiring, training, accountability and that document will be made public and the community will have an opportunity to take a look at it. and i think at the end of the day here, what will end uptak

up taking place is you'll have a descent decree. an agreement, a court enforceable agreement that will contain the blueprint for reform and this is not going to happen overnight. this is going to take awhile but i have seen reform happen. i saw it in l.a. i prosecuted an lapd officer prerodney king. that was a sespool when i was involved. because of this authority, a decade later there were a lot of reforms under taken to help to improve dramatically the lapd. it can be done. i won't be easy. there is a lot of sskepticism. >> the minneapolis police chief got credit from legal observers for testifying against derek chauvin. how do you square that with attorney general garland with unconstitutional or unlawful policing in the department in a system mic way? where does the buck stop?

>> these consent decrees and discussions are voluntary and often negotiated and the jurisdictions with this investigation imposed upon them really had the choice of either being corporative and being able to move the needle to have that trust gap narrow between itself and the community. chief arradondo talked about the relationship between police officers and the community. if there is no trust, it increased the difficulty of the officer's job and of course, the community does not feel safe and does not have an ally and nowhere to turn. there is a vested interest in the proceedings you're talking about although court enforced by a federal court, every step that's taken, the discussion and ability to be transparent will be on full display in order for them to negotiate a way to have measurable change and remember, as an independent monitor that will oversee these things. you have both transparency and accountability and you have an independent stake holder able to

oversee it all. you can square the two in the sense chief arradondo and police officers, remember, derek chauvin in this instance, they made a point in the testimony to show this was not one of us. this was a ten-foot pole distancing of somebody not a part of us what the prosecution called a noble profession. you can square both. >> anderson, i prosecuted a lot of police misconduct cases. i never had a police chief testify in my case. the fact chief arradondo is a significant part of the case and the fact he's cooperating is a good sign and it gives me hope that they can square this and move forward in a collaborative way. >> interestingly, in terms of what the federal government can actually, you know, what sort of changes we're actually talking about. i mean, in the past, what is it changes in the hiring practices and training of officers? >> it's the whole nine yards. it is hiring practices. if you have defective hiring practices so you're bringing down the wrong people then

you're setting it up for failure from the outset. i mentioned early warning systems. when we investigated the seattle police department, we found that an overwhelming percentage of uses of force, something like 85 or 90% involved something like 15 or 20 officers, a very small percentage of the police department but they weren't tracking that. so one of the remedies in this case is going to be the establishment. i guarantee you of viable early warning systems. if it had been in place, george floyd might be alive today. they will put in place more accountability mechanisms because clearly, people, officers in minneapolis who have done wrong have not been held accountable and so you need new systems of accountability that will give the community a voice, as well, and i think those -- these are examples of remedies that will be court enforceable and i think really impactful.

>> you know, laura, the defense chose to have the sentence decided by the judge instead of the jury and a, why do you think that is and do you expect to hear from derek chauvin during sentencing? >> yes, we will hear from him either the report written about him in response to the answers about remorse and factors and conditions that would help them decide what rehab bill daytive aspects are part of the punishment and has an opportunity to speak in court for a last-ditch effort for leniency for a judge to say here is who i am and what i've done and he could make a statement to the victim's family and they may have a chance to make an i'm pack statement. it will be his last chance to bend the ear of the judge in a way he chose not to do when it came to an actual trial. this is an opportunity for him to do so. in terms of the idea of why you do this, and why this is so impactful and why you ask for a

judge to do it as opposed to a jury, listen, juries although they are from the community, they have often times a skewed notion of what a heinous crime looks like. we know, we saw the horrific nature of that crime but judges have had unfortunately, a larger volume of cases of those sorts of horrors, not the same analogy but they've seen a broad spectrum. because of that, they may, according to the defendant, have a different perspective and lenient and scale in their minds of the most heinous crime they've seen getting the maximum and figuring out on where this particular case, where it falls on the scale. so they'll look to the judge to offer what the jury would not give. >> laura coats, tom perez, appreciate it. what film maker spike lee makes of this moment and fits into a history he documented on screen. and to ohio video released of an officer involved shooting and what it shows whether the use of force was appropriate.

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at the top of the broadcast, we mentioned the shooting of a 16-year-old girl during the trial of the chauvin trial. the young girl was seen threatening others with a knife. details and body camera video. a warning, some might consider the images difficult to watch. >> reporter: new video released in the case of makhia bryant after she attempted to stab two people with a knife. upon receiving that chaotic 911

call, officers were dispatched to the scene. they still don't know the identity of the caller. police body camera foot shag shows an officer approaching a group of individuals in the driveway outside a home. >> what is going on? hey, what is going on? hey, hey, hey, hey, get down! get down! get down! get down! >> reporter: the video shows bryant appearing to push one person to the ground and then lunging at another person in pink with what appears to be a knife in her hand. officer reardon fires four shots killing bryant. franklin county children's services says bryant was a foster child in the county's care. >> she came after me. >> reporter: tonight, newly released body camera videos from two additional officers show the moments after the shooting, as well. officers can be seen performing life saving measures on bryant and sealing off the scene. officer reardon whom police identified as firing the fatal shots has been a member of the columbus police department since 2019. he's on paid administrative leave while an independent

investigation takes place. the killing was a failure of a community. >> the fact that we had a 16-year-old girl armed and involved with physical violence with other folks in the community, that's something for us to look in the mirror and say what are we doing or not doing? >> find the defendant guilty. >> reporter: the shooting happened about 30 minutes before the guilty verdict was delivered for the murder of george floyd at a time police of force around the nation and columbus specifically is under renewed scrutiny. >> we'll be sharing more in the hours, days, weeks ahead that doesn't compromise the investigation because it's critically important for us for the public to have the information that we have so we can be transparent as possible. >> a atheena jones join us. has the police officer or union released a statement? >> reporter: no, cnn reached out to the officer and police union and haven't heard back so far. there is one thing i want to

stress, both the mayor and interim police chief were emphasizing transparency today. we know the police department worked swiftly to get the first initial police body camera footage out last night interim chief michael woods saying his goal is to get as much information out to the public as possible as quickly as possible. this was especially important last night because there were videos taken by bystanders that were already circulating on social media causing outrage. anderson. >> thank you very much. we want perspective from charles ramsey that led police departments in philadelphia and washington. when you look at the video and again, it is early but how do you view it? >> well, first of all, let me start by saying any loses of lie is tragic. when i look at it, i look at it from the view point of whether or not the actions of the officer are reasonable. he's responding to a scene of a

fight. he sees one young lady push another one down. can't really tell if she pushed her or cut her and she goes immediately after the young lady in the pink. she has a knife in her hand. she actually raises it over her head in a motion that is very, i think, obvious her intent was to stab. the officer drew his weapon and fired. in my opinion, that was a reasonable use of force. >> some people might see the tape and wonder why the officer wouldn't try to use a taser or another non-lethal tactic. can you walk us through the split second thinking, again, because this all happens from the moment he gets out of the vehicle, this escalates i'm tas great weapon. there is no question about that. but when you have a situation where someone is being immediately threatened with death or great bodily harm,

then, you know, would you go to the taser or would you really try to stop the threat to save the life of the individual who is being threatened? i mean, you know, you don't shoot the one young lady, she stabs the other one and she dies. it a no-win situation. this is a very tough situation. the other thing i would mention in terms of a taser if you know how tasers operate and look at the distance there from the -- where the officer is standing to where the suspect is with the knife, when you fire a taser, there is two prongs that come out and they both have to strike the subject. they both have to otherwise you can't get the electricity will not discharge into the body, which is what actually causes the muscles to tighten up and for the person to react to it. that's pretty good distance that he's got there. the only thing i would say for the officer, he took a chance by firing a shot in that he is so

close to the lady in pink there but he had no other alternative in my mind other than to take some action because of what was going on, the young lady who was shot was clearly the aggressor in this case. there is no question about that. >> something like a taser can -- it looked like the person who was shot was wearing a sweatshirt, a black sweatshirt. >> sweatshirt. >> did that go through a sweatshirt? >> that could have been a problem. it may or may not. it depends. in the windier time it can be less effective than the summertime because it's got to actually strike the skin in order for the electricity to be conducted through the body. and so, i mean, look how fast this happened. the minute he gets on the scene, you got one young lady being pushed to the ground at time. he probably didn't know whether or not she was stabbed or pushed. the young lady who was shot has a knife in her hand clearly visible and this is not a small pocket knife. she pushes the other girl against the car. she actually puts herself in a

def defensive position or she'll get stabbed and that's when the officer fired, is when the offender reared back with the knife as if she's going to come in a downward motion, which would then stab the individual and it doesn't take long to inflict multiple stab wounds. so it's tragic. it unfortunate but sometimes, you know, these things happen and every time an officer uses force, it doesn't mean that it's criminal or that it's inappropriate. >> it is interesting because again, just to me, so many of these videos -- well i shouldn't speak like that but this video is just from the time he gets out of the vehicle to the time the altercation is right in front of him, had he paused and not acted, as you said, we don't know what would have happened. the woman in pink could have been stabbed and killed. what would people be saying then? would -- >> exactly.

>> it's a -- again, these are all hypotheticals. >> it's a no win. it a no win because then we'd be having a conversation why didn't he act and allow this one person to stab and kill the other one? and so it's a no win situation. it really is. in this case, think that the use of force, deadly force in this case was reasonable on the part of the officer. >> yeah, well, hopefully in the coming days we'll learn more about the incident. charles ramsey, appreciate it. we'll continue the discussion about race and law ens ever enforcement next and talked about the fate of the police reform bill in congress and why state republicans are pushing anti riot bills in response to black lives matter protests. it's the biggest thing that ever happened to small. visit your local mercedes-benz dealer for exceptional lease and financing offers.

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while congress tries to work out a police reform bill to get 60 votes in the senate, legislators appear to be focused on sidelines black lives matter protesters. republican lawmakers in 34 states introduced 81 anti protests bills in the wake of those protests, more than twice the normal level. according to "the times" legislators passed bills granting immunity to driver whose strike and injure protesters and florida's governor signed an anti protest bill that turns misdemeanors into felonies. these actions plus rhetoric from people like congresswoman marjorie taylor greene who is

acquitted black lives matter with terrorism complicates reform. congresswoman, thanks so much for joining us. yesterday's verdict clearly was received by many americans in a step in the right direction but what do you make of the state level efforts by republicans to restrict the ability of people to protest? >> anderson, thanks for having me this evening. i spent time over the years that i've been dealing with police reform just looking at the long roll call list of black americans, men and women who suffered violence at the hands of police officers. frankly, these legislatures are engaging in distraction and smoke and mirrors and really it is tragic when life and lives have been lost. we have been engaged in trying to stop the bloodshed and certainly, we are very aware of police community relationships. for us to be serious about this, anderson, we can't spend time

making a mockery of the sacrifice of black lives matter, the work they've done, the young people they have brought together, the pain they felt and have this kind of legislation and yet, can't move more quickly the george floyd justice and policing act, which by the way, there are many such bills have similarly been filed in state legislatures. i wonder why those bills have not been pushed. >> you know, it's -- i mean, how does one move forward with police reform in congress when you have members of congress like the qanon curious marjorie taylor greene that called black lives matter and i'm quoting the strongest terrorist threat in our country, end quote, which is just, i mean, on its face rather absurd. whose office, you know, her office then floated then tried to backtrack from this idea of a so-called america first caucus, how do you get things done?

>> look at reality and facts and the insurrections still feel the pain of because of the attack clearly was marked by white supremacist. any member has a right to utilize the first amendment but right now, we have very serious work to do and i think members have their heads sort of in the idea of negotiating and trying to come up with a non-warded down policing and george floyd act. the bill written in the house, anderson, meets the standard for all of the element the that have ca caused tragic loss of life like no knock warrants to use of force to the idea what

communities need and ending police misconduct by training. comments that are pure distractions and false, we know that we've gotten great comments as it relates to the bill from the president and vice president. we're working on it in judiciary and the senate. there are negotiations that are on going and we stay focused on that. i think the point that should be made is tomorrow, tragically, is a funeral of deonte' wright. this week i met his family in minneapolis when we were there for the closing arguments. you can't help but feel the pain of these families and those who have unsettled, unsettled cases still languishing tragically they lost their child to police, i call it misconduct like to mayor rice and of course, breonna taylor pamela turner. so we're going to focus. there are some differences in positions with republicans and

democrats on this bill. i think that we can convince more colleagues in this backdrop of this court decision where americans decided that an officer, officer chauvin deserved to be found guilty on all three counts. that should propel members of congress to say where america is and we should do the right thing with this legislation. >> congresswoman sheila jackson lee, appreciate it. thank you. >> thank you for having me. coming up, a closer look at the minneapolis teenage there recorded that cell phone video of derek chauvin kneeling on the neck of george floyd murdering him, shared it online changing the course of the conversation. >> get up and get in the car! >> i will! yep! bye! that's why we love skechers max cushioning footwear. they've maxed out the cushion for extreme comfort. it's like walking on clouds! big, comfy ones! oh yeah!

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when a teenager named darnella frazier hit record on her cell phone as george floyd was gasping for his last breath outside cup foods little did she know her actions and impact of the video would have. it changed the conversation in this country about policing, it

changed history as well. journalism at harvard ann marie lipinsky put this in a tweet. thinking of young darnella frazier, there is no case without her. the video record she made is one of the most important civil rights documents in a generation. randi kaye has more. first a warning. some of the video is graphic and is difficult to watch. >> i heard george floyd say ing "i can't breathe. please get off of me. i can't breathe." he cried for his mom. he was in pain. >> that's the voice of darnella frazier. the cell phone video she took at the scene and posted online was seen by millions around the globe. the world needed to see what i was seeing she told the star tribune in minneapolis at the time. derek chauvin with his knee to

george floyd's neck. dar darnella kept recording. george floyd pleading fo help and taking his final breath, darnella kept reporting. remarkable composure forry high school student who was just 17. yet there she stood on the corner of 38th street and chicago avenue south in her blue pants, hoodie and flip-flops. she hit record because, as she told "the star tribune," stuff like this happens in silence too many times. at the trial, darnella would not be silenced as she and her video became star witnesses. >> did you observe mr. floyd do anything that you felt was threatening to any of the police officers? >> no. >> unlike the officers she had videotaped, this teenager knew the difference between right and wrong. >> it wasn't right. >> her video changed the narrative and torpedoed the minneapolis police department's initial and misleading statement about george floyd's death being

the result of a medical incident during police interaction. >> please! please, i can't breathe. >> after derek chauvin was found guilty of murder, darnella took to facebook, overcome with emotion. i just cried so hard, she wrote, adding, george floyd, we did it. justice has been served. her bravery inspired pen america, nonprofit focused on freedom of expression, to give her an award for her courage. anita hill who took then then supreme court justice nominee cla clarence thomas praised her. >> your quuk thinking and bravery under intense pressure made the world safer and more just. >> i never would have imagined out of knew whole 17 years of living that this would be me. >> the naacp in north carolina where george floyd was born released a statement, saying darnella frazier's video will go down in history, comparing it to

the film which captured the assassination of president john fn f. kennedy. for darnella frazier, hitting the record button wasn't just for george floyd n him she saw those she loved. >> i have a black father. i have a black brother. i have black friends. and i look at that, and i look at how that could have been one of them. >> randi kaye, cnn, palm beach county, florida. >> more news ahead tonight. coming up, what president biden is saying about his goal to get 200 million doses of the covid-19 vaccine in arms in his first 100 days.

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president biden says his administration's metity goal of 200 million americans receiving the covid-19 vaccine in the first hyundais. 216 million doses have been given across the country. it's a little more than 40% of

all adult americans receiving at least one dose of the vaccine. among seniors, the numbers nearly 81% have received one dose and 66% are now fully vaccinated. the president added more incentive, calling on businesses to give employees paid time off, announcing he would give nonprofits and small businesses a tax credit to offset the cost. let hand it over to chris cuomo for prime time. >> thanks, coop. appreciate it. i am chris cuomo. what comes next? you had the verdict yesterday. we did see some different developments already. we know that the department of justice under the care of merrick garland, that they are going to open up an investigation into policing in minnesota, okay? what are they looking at? the obvious. does that police force have a pattern of excessive force and unlawful conduct against