against lies with the truth. >> all right. in a two-party system you need both parties to be viable or you end up with one agenda and those people don't want one agenda. >> nope. >> so thank you very much. john, appreciate it. >> thanks to all of you for joining us. "ac 360" with anderson starts now. and good evening. the live pictures of protests in elizabeth city, north carolina tell the story. if authorities want to have transparency and accountability in the wake of andrew brown junior they seem to be coming up short so far. if on the other hand, they intend to increase suspicion and fuel anger and raise tensions, they succeeded today. according to family attorneys, as many as eight body cams may have captured the shooting that happened as deputies were serving an arrest warrant on brown however today the family was only shown 20 seconds of footage from a single body camera. what's more, they say, even that brief clip was enough to demonstrate that he posed no

threat when he was shot and killed according to family members. >> let's be clear, this was an execution. >> i know it. >> andrew brown was in his driveway. the sheriff truck blocked him in his driveway so he could not exit his driveway. andrew had his hands on his steering wheel. he was not reaching for anything. he wasn't touching anything. he wasn't throwing anything around. he had his hands firmly on the steering wheel. they run up to his vehicle shooting. >> yup, sure did. >> he still stood there, sat in his vehicle with his hands on the steering wheel while being shot at. >> in a while we'll talk to another family attorney and andrew brown junior's son. what's the latest where you are? >> reporter: well, anderson.

the crowd has taken to the streets to express disappointment and anger that the county attorney mike chael only allowed to see that 20-second clip of the body cam video. they are frustrated and angry and have been peaceful like the past five nights. what is interesting, you find the clip with the family attorney, she told us separately that when that 20-second clip began, the shooting already started. they believe the shooting already started when they saw that 20-second clip. i also asked her about how many deputies do you think were surrounding his car? she said at least seven or six. we're getting some detail from them but again, the family and these people out here, very, very upset at the fact that the local, county attorney in their view has not been transparent. they call it disrespect that he has not shown the community the respect they deserve and trying to get more of this footage released to the public and more released so that the family can see more of what happened.

they clearly, as you saw the news conference this afternoon, this family and their representatives very, very upset with how this unfolded. we tried to contact michael cox, the county attorney for response to their criticism. he has not gotten back to us. >> the police released very little information about what their version of events is. what are authorities saying about the possibility about releasing more information? or the possibility of any kind of unrests. i assume they are concerned about. >> reporter: well, anderson, they've declared a state of emergency in case, you know, there is more -- there is any unrest. i have to say there has not been unrest. doct there is no violence, nothing like that. five nights, this is the sixth night we've been out here. the previous five nights have been very, very peaceful and very well organized and the community determined to keep it that way. >> show that real footage,

though! yeah! >> reporter: this is the mood they are in. they are determined to be peaceful but want that footage out there. expressing the same sentiment and petitions will be in front of the judge in the next few days, media petitions and others. we'll see if the pressure and this footage comes to fruition. >> where are marchers headed tonight? >> reporter: well, they say they want to go to the home of the county attorney michael cox. they are gathering ahead of us now. if you can swing the camera around, they are gathering in front of the home. we don't know if this is his home or not but they say they want to go to his home and show him exactly how they feel. they have stopped here on this side street off the main drag. and they're just chanting andrew brown's name. again, it's not clear if this is the home of the county attorney or not but they are just determined to walk through these streets and express how they're feeling tonight. very, very peaceful.

passionate, spirited but peaceful throughout this evening, anderson and the past five nights, as well. >> brian todd, appreciate it. we'll check in with you through the night. up next, let's hear from andrew brown's son and family attorney harry daniels. kalil, how are you and your family doing after seeing that video today? >> we heart broken. you know, we got a little bit of evidence, but that wasn't enough for us. >> mr. daniels, i understand were members of the family or their attorneys given any explanation why only 20 seconds of the body cam video was shown? >> no, anderson. we received -- i asked a question how long was the video? the county attorney michael cox said that they showed the pertinent parts, 20 seconds they

believed was pertinent. before the video starts, the officers are firing and mr. brown had his hands on the steering column. so no explanation whatsoever as to why they decided to give 20 seconds of the shooting. >> so you said, basically, your father was in the vehicle with his hands on the steering wheel or steering column? >> the steering wheel. >> did you have a sense of how many officers were involved in this? >> in the video, i seen about six or seven. >> and in the video, can you tell what the 20 seconds -- what happened in those 20 seconds? >> starting the video, i heard shots fired. and it was pretty -- it was pretty much clear that he was trying to get away instead of engaging in any officers. he was trying to get away, and they just kept firing. >> yeah, anderson. from the scripture, we had a

lawyer in the room ms. chantel and she took a very detailed notes and her position was that mr. brown, he was trying to -- he wasn't fleeing. the first reports said he was fleeing. he was trying to save his life, but interestingly enough, during that time, he was conscious not to try to injure the officers but they were still trying to gun him down. he was trying to get away, fight or flight, conscious enough not to try to injure the officers and they still was trying to gun him down. >> when you say conscious -- >> unacceptable unjust -- >> i'm sorry, when you say conscious enough to not injure the officers, in what way did that become apparent? >> he clearly drove around them, away from them because he could have drove towards them. he drove away from them to ensure he don't injure any

officers. however, they didn't care. they had a target. they had a mark. and they were there to execute that mark and that's exactly what they did. >> now, authorities -- >> this is unjustified. this is probably the worst of the worst. >> authorities said they delayed showing mr. brown's family the body cam footage because they said they needed more time to redact the video and blur images of the faces in the footage. do you know why that is necessary and what is your next move to get access to all of the video? >> anderson, i have practiced criminal defense law. i have seen plenty of videos, body cam. you may redact minor or innocent bystanders or sensitive information. i have never seen officer's faces redacted, never. that is so purpose is to protect their officers. one purpose and one purpose only but i can tell your mr. brown's

face was not blurred. we will ask for the whole. the redaction, it was a delete with the exception of 20 seconds and for the court to order the county to release all video footage. the public should know and more importantly, kalil and his somebo siblings and the family should know what happened to his father. you cannot heal until you know what happened. they showed him. what you saw is an unlawful shooting. that's what he saw. a killing of his father, execution of his father. >> mr. daniels, have authorities at today's meeting or at any time given an indication why they say mr. brown was shot? i mean, did they say mr. brown at any time posed a threat to the police? did you get any further explanation from them today? >> no. anderson, even if they gave an explanation, kalil and other

counsel saw the video and there was no justification of why they were shooting him. if they give an explanation, the explanation would not be true because the video is 1,000 words -- that's the most objective evidence. who cares what they say when you have a video. we want to see the entire video and put it in context. >> kalil, you've called for justice for your dad. what does that look like for you and your family at this point? do you want to see happen? >> i want to see all these killings stop. you know, it's too much going on in this world and we don't need that. they supposed to protect us, but they doing the harm. you know, it got to stop somewhere. >> the ones responsible brought to justice, kalil who committed an act and took a personal life, he should be in jail or arrested now. >> i would be. >> that's because you wear a badge, shield or star, that doesn't give you the right to kill and if you kill, that

doesn't give you the right to go -- to be free while a clear killing is on video unjustifiable. it was homicide but another and intentional, reckless, it's murder. period. so you have people in the city of elizabeth city who is free who committed unlawful killing regardless of what uniform they wear. three of the officers, two of the officers resigned. one of the officers was allowed to retire and seven other officers on administrative leave. anderson, this is very small town. 18,000 people. ten of their deputies are not on active duty. when it fire, we both know there's smoke and elizabeth city, is on fire. >> i found it strange they haven't said to the family any more details. are they claiming that mr. brown was armed? >> no. >> no.

>> they acre knowno acre knowlet armed and shot in the back. >> the whole city know he doesn't carry a weapon. that wasn't even his thing. >> he was shot in the back trying to save his life trying to get away. >> mr. daniels and kalil, appreciate your time. thank you. kalil, again, so sorry for your loss. >> thank you. >> appreciate you. coming up next, we'll play you video of the shooting's immediate aftermath just coming in and our legal and law enforcement team weighs in on what we see and how this is being handled and for everyone waiting for official word on what is and isn't safe to do once you've been vaccinated, tomorrow could be a big day. what are expected to be new guidelines on outdoor mask wearing and more. to veteran spouses everywhere

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junior. i was taken by a neighbor pretty far away. we are just playing it here for the first time. >> i'm right here. it's the cops. you can't call the cops on the feds. >> they shot him? >> yeah. >> apparently, this seems to be the car that mr. brown was in according to family members. he was in the vehicle with his hands on the wheel. again, according to a family attorney and family members who witnessed and watched some 20 seconds of one of a body camera video, one body camera video. there were multiple officers there with multiple body camera videos and we have not obviously seen those publicly. a short time before we got this video in a brief and essentially content free press appearance, the county sheriff said this

about the incident and i'm quoting now, we previously committed to transparency and accountability, today we're continuing to follow through with the two important goals, tonight, we're still waiting for that or really anything resembling to come to pass. joining us is kirk rivers who is marching with protesters tonight. you spoke to brian todd last thursday. you asked for transparency from elected officials. it been four days since then. what do you make of how officials are handling this? >> from the day this started, b being and demanding answers to try to find out 20 second of a video still giving the people, letting us know what is going

on. >> the number of the attorneys for the family today said that the county attorney michael cox tried to prevent several of them from viewing the video in the first place and said he wasn't going to be f-ing bullied by them. i'm wondering what you make of how authorities are dealing with the community and family members. >> well, the way that this takes place is that's how elizabeth city and certain people in this city have treated certain people and that is unacceptable when you have the family in there that want to see what took place about their loved one and then you're going to tell the county attorney is going to tell people and tell the attorneys that they invited, that were there to represent them that they're not going to be bullied that is totally unacceptable and not trying to be able to deescalate the situation and the control

and so from day one, they have not been doing a job that is pleasing. it's been chaos not getting information out and talking to attorneys that way when everyone is there to solve and to get justice for the family to make the family be there to see what took place through the video and the attorneys is going to talk to them like that, that is totally unacceptable and we plan on going to the county commissioner meeting to let them know that's unacceptable and we're trying to make the family as they are grieving, not to escalate the situation. >> what impact do you think the protests have had over the last four or five days? >> well, we received no answers, we have taken it to the street. they are continuing to be peaceful. when people come out, you see children here, grownups, all types of people, black, white. we've taken it to the streets to

let the elected officials know from the sheriff to the d.a. to the county attorney to everyone that we're going protest until we get answers, until they release this tape, until they continue to make sure that they spread the truth and continue -- andrew brown junior gets justice. so this is the fifth night we've been out here. we've done two-a-day marches and we'll continue to march at 5:00 until we get justice for andrew brown and until the truth comes out. we're going to continue to demand, continue to walk the streets. we're walking through residential neighborhoods. we're walking through the business streets, we're going to continue to protest until we get answers. >> i appreciate your time tonight. thank you. >> thank you so much. >> joining us is cnn legal analyst elliott williams and

andrew mccabe, former fbi deputy director. i'm wondering your reaction to how authorities are handling this. is this normal? what do you make of it? >> it's unfathomable. it's the first rule of any crisis management, you have to get out in front of bad news. you know, one of the reasons to do that is to be able to take the position and send the message to your community that you stand on the side of accountability and transparency in the rule of law. the danger to not doing that like we've seen in this situation is you send the exact opposite message, they appear to be, we don't know if this is the case but it certainly appears as if they are trying to conceal information and protect their own and avoid accountability. that's the absolute worst thing that this police agency can do at this time and that's why those people are on the streets. >> you said law enforcement is trying to have it both ways with the release of 20 seconds of one

body cam image. how so? >> right. well, look, what they're trying to do is number one say that they can't release more information because it might taint the investigation but are you l-- releasing all of this information, here is what we know. number one they were there executing a drug warrant and i saw reporting out of north carolina about crystal meth and prior convictions he has and so on. clearly, their managing to get information out there about andrew brown, which can also taint the investigation, right? because that's prejudice l information there but not the video footage that might clarify this. it is trying to have it both ways. like no, no, no, we can't put information out there but here is a lot of bad stuff about this really bad guy and that's sort of the way law enforcement has been allowed to work for a very long time. and this is exactly andrew's point. it's about communications and who controls the early narrative and for decades, law enforcement

could get out and control the narrative earlier on and this year over the remaining of the last few years, that just doesn't work anymore and i think we're seeing a big shift in what the public demands and expects when there are crisis. >> andrew, reporters are always, you know, first to be skeptical about things but in general, public when police have come forward and said this is what occurred, you know, traditionally people have taken that for what it's worth, believed or at least have an instinctive belief in that. when you see what happened in the wake of george floyd and the first release put out by the minneapolis police, which now when you look at it, i mean, it's just completely not what actually occurred. it certainly makes one all the more skeptical. i don't understand why the police would not at the very least come forward and say this person was armed.

this person was not artimed. this was -- all we know is attempteded to execute a felony drug warrant and that's information that paints the subject in obviously a very particular light. >> that's exactly right. and so, you know, because of situations like george floyd and many other really hard to watch situations of the use of lethal force and arrests of predominantly black men, the police are working from a deficit of trust. so you have -- you already kind of one or two steps behind, you know, lower than zero, right? and in addition to that, because of the use of body cameras, we have the opportunity to know or at least have one pretty good view into what actually happened. so it's this combination of a lack of trust with the possibility of seeing what took place at the time is driving the public's expectation for

accurate, fully transparent forthcoming information right away and that's not something law enforcement will be able to put down. the days of saying oh, we're not going to talk about this until all of our investigation is finished however long that takes are over. we don't live in that time anymore. and it's, you know, police agencies would be well served to understand the environment they're operating in and start playing by the rules. >> elliott, why would the footage the family saw 20 seconds need to be in their words in the words of the police red redacted? does that make sense to you? >> it does to some extent. again, if there were innocent bystanders there, minors, people perhaps under investigation at the time, but it's just per perp perplexing, anderson. here is the problem. this is not -- we're not talking about the law now. this is p.r. if they were able to release the 20 seconds and they clearly have the rest of the footage, it was

very much in their interest to release the rest of the video to the public because what they did if you saw that press conference today, those lawyers put on a clinic for how to take back the story and the police, the sheriff's department just basically failed there. so now, by creating a vacuum as to what else is in the rest of that footage, they have really stepped in it, and just left more questions for the public. >> yeah, elliott williams, andrew mccabe, appreciate it. liz cheney in a new interview spells what republicans need to win back power in washington. that's next.

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six months after the election and four after the capitol riot and republicans are still at odds with one another over both. house gop conference chair liz cheney says the party needs better out reach and said i quote, we have to be honest about what happened in 2020 to really learn the lessons of that and that is the election was not stolen. contrast that with a message from kevin mccarthy in an interview the minority leader defends the attempt to overturn president biden's wins in pennsylvania and arizona and in a weekend interview with fox news he defended the president's actions after the riot began praising that video he made that came out hours after the riot began. we repeated the false claim of a

stolen election and told rioters quote we love you. joined by cnn chief political correspondent dana bash and paul. kevin mccarthy described the task of walking the tightest tight rope. what does that entail and is there room for these infactions? >> you know, there is room inside the republican party for a lot of different i dedeologie but not lies and there is a story that is wonderful talking about the fact this in race after race when republicans are running in primaries, this is a need a political need for the republican candidates if they feel they are at all in danger of not winning to embrace the

former president and embrace his lies about the 2020 election and so as long as that is the kind of morris star for the republican party right now, it is impossible to get to the point that liz cheney described because she understands what is needed to win more broadly and a more general election, maybe even in house seats but senate seats and in the future for the presidency. >> paul, i mean, what do you make of where the republican party is right now? have you ever seen it like this? >> i don't think we've ever seen anything like this. liz cheney is right on the principle and politics. now, there will be a weather report after this showing hell has frozen over because i chene don't agree with her on anything. i don't agree with her mother or father or aunt.

with respect, no, sir, you're a welt though powerful congressman. america is on a tight rope between truth and lies between freedom and an insurrectionest mob, between plural list m and white supremacy. that's the real tight rope. politically, the way for him to get off that is to listen to liz cheney, reach out to the new american majority where trump put them on the wrong side of race and religion and gender and generation and they have to get back on the right side of that. mcel mccarthy has huge assets, history where the party out of power picks up 30 or more seats, geography, his party gets to draw the maps in most states and he's got the rules, his party filed scores of bills, hundreds of bills in scores or states to choose the rules to make it harder for people of color and democrats to vote. i don't know why he's whining with these advantages for

reasons i don't understand clinging to trump that is nothing but a disaster for his party. >> dana, we're seeing real world consequences from the big lie, too. look at the recount of the 2020 election that's actually happening in arizona now. former president is actively supporting the recount and attacking the republican governor of arizona because he refuses to do the former president's bidding. >> continuing to attack him. and this is a governor who went to joe biden's inauguration to make a point that the -- i guess, the majority of the republicans who are doing the bidding of the former president are on the wrong side of truth, of history, of politics all of the above like paul was talking about. and, you know, even republicans in congress who have been very critical of the former president, shellry i spoke to

her on state"state of the uniony critical of january 6th and his role in that candidly so. when i asked her about whether or not there is a place for president trump to run again in 2024, she said it was too early but there is still a place for him in the republican party. that's different from what liz cheney is saying. she is out there with maybe a hand full of other elected republican officials who are trying to put the squeeze on the former president because they believe that is the only viable path for the gop. >> dana bash, paul, thank you. amazing times. more breaking news next, president biden is set to announce new cdc guidance on mask use tomorrow but not expected to apply every american. breaking details when we continue.

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go mask lless outside might mak others want to get the shot. author of the upcoming book, "lifelines a doctors journey in the fight for public health." dr. nguyen, you've been critical for not being aggressive enough to reopen schools as we wait for the guidelines tomorrow regarding mask use for vaccinated people, do you feel the same way the government is moving too slow on these guidelines? >> i do, anderson. the biden team wants to be cautious but caution comes at a price and that price is that people are saying well, what's the point of getting vaccinated if not that much change is forming? the biden administration is saying here is what we as a society should do as once we reach a certain level of vaccination, once the infection level decreases, we'll lift restrictions for everyone but i think they're counting that many americans want to know what's in it for me? they don't want to wait until everyone gets to some elusive

herd immunity. it will be a lot more effective if we say once you're fully vaccinated, that's the end of the road for you. at that point you're able to take off your mask outside and go about enjoying many aspects of prepandemic life. that will be key to overcoming vaccine he issitancy. >> there is plenty of people who aren't wearing masks anyway who haven't been vaccinated so is that a risk? i mean, if a lot of un -- a lot of vaccinated people are walking around without masks, are more people going to start taking off their mask whether or not they have been vaccinated? it's not like anybody is checking. >> frankly, outdoor mask mandates should just go. regardless of whether you're vaccinated. there are a lot of locals and states that still have blanket mask mandates so even if you live in a suburban area or rural area you don't see many people, there are still mask man ddatesn place, that doesn't make sense. i think the mandates can go but we can do more with specifically

incentive izing vaccination allowing businesses to come back at full capacity if they are checking for proof of vaccination. >> it's interesting to me if you say wearing a mask outdoors, that there is not much point. i mean, that's essentially what you're saying. what about being close to somebody, you know, walking down the street? isn't that a risk if they haven't been vaccinated and even if you've been vaccinated, i mean, is it -- what's the percentage of people who were vaccinated who may get it but get a mild case but even know mild cases, aren't you seeing that down the road they can have other effects? >> i think the key at this point, anderson is that we have to think about reducing risk. not eliminating risk because we're just not going to be able to live like that. we are seeing major portions of this country who are not yet vaccinated who are already returning to doing everything prepandemic because our guidance

is disconnected from everyday reality. part of public health is urnldiur understanding health and all these activities that were once high risk are now lower risk. get vaccinated and go and do things. we encourage you to do things like travel. do it safely but go see your friends and family. that message will have more resonance than here are all the things you can't do even if you're fully vaccinated. >> the johnson & johnson stopping was lifted. would you still receive the j&j vaccine and what are you advising your female patients to do? >> i mean, i would say that the j&j vaccine is still a very good vaccine. for a lot of people getting one dose, one shot going to the appointment once is really important. if that's really important to them, go ahead and do that. now we also know there is this rare but very serious clotting

disorder, a very serious clotting disordered that killed, three people died and seven remain in the hospital and four in intensive care. the people who are primarily affected are young women. women under the age of 50. so i would say to these individuals and if i had a choice, this is what i would have done, i would have taken one of the other vaccines, the pfizer or moderna vaccine because those vaccines don't have this risk but are still very effective. we're in a very different point of the pandemic than a month ago or two when we said take whatever vaccine you have access to first. now we have enough supply and more information about the possible risk, the very small risk in this very particular population of women under 50. i'd say to those women, take pfizer or mo derna first and thn get johnson & johnson. it's still a very good vaccine. >> thanks. the new york police department released photos of someone they're seeking as they investigate an attack on a

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state police department authorities are investigating an attack on a man friday night as a possible hate crime. police say the 61-year-old was hit from behind by the assailant. he was then repeatedly kicked in the head. the man is in critical but stable condition. the new york police department released photos of who they are investigating in this crime. they hope to expedite reviews of covid-related hate crimes. we're joined by lisa ling. lisa, this video is just horrific. for all the attention this has gotten over the last few months, these attacks are continuing. >> yeah, anderson, it is sickening and horrifying, and i've just been so devastated for mr. ma and his family.

you said it yourself, despite rallies from coast to coast, the condemnations from the highest levels of government on down, corporations supporting organizations working to combat hate, solidarity in the asian community, support from outside the asian community that these attacks are still continuing to happen unabated, and the attack on mr. ma wasn't even the only one this weekend. there were some others, and some of them were violent as well. in fact, we have this appi gofundme fund page, and it's sort of the central source for victim relief funds. anderson, when you look at all the fundraisers for all the victims, it just goes on and on and you just see images of people bloodied and sand beaten it's devastating. >> when you look at the people who have been attacked, it's often the most vulnerable, especially the elderly. >> yeah. when you think about the asian-american community, many

people think of high levels of achievement and success in education, but what most people don't realize is the age gap between the richest asians and the poorest asians is the widest in the country. more asians live in poverty than any minority group in new york city. when we talk about elders, our asian seniors who have been subjected to so many racist attacks, they have very high rates of poverty. in fact, in new york, 24% of asian seniors live in poverty compared to 18% of elderly -- >> 24%, wow. >> exactly. and that's why this demographic is particularly vulnerable, not just because of their age. in many ways mr. ma represents that population of poor asian seniors who don't receive unemployment or federal funds, so he has been living in the shadows doing what he had to do to survive which can, in his case, was collecting cans to support himself and his wife. >> and i've actually seen that quite a lot particularly the last couple months, people collecting cans. usually it's men and women,

almost, together. clearly, you know, dedicating their entire day to collecting cans to make whatever money they can. they're essentially living -- they may not be here legally, so they don't have access to much help. >> that's right. and people who are watching may remember about a year ago, there was another video that emerged of another asian senior who was also collecting cans who was repeatedly harassed by people who said, i hate asians. so, again, these are people who are living in the shadows, they're living in the margins, they don't qualify for any relief, so they are just literally doing what they can to survive. >> the reports of hate crimes targeting asians and asian-americans have increased since the pandemic began, obviously, more than a year ago. when the former president repeatedly, obviously, used anti-asian slurs to refer to the virus, how much did the pandemic add to an already difficult

situation? >> look, anderson, it was so irresponsible, right, to make a joke out of something so serious. in many ways it just gave people license to do the same. but in all honesty, this is a pattern of racism and scap scapescap scapegoating that has been happening to asians in century. when you think about the '80s in the automobile industry, and vincent chin in detroit who was about to get married was brutally attacked and killed with a bat by two auto workers who had just lost their jobs and accused him of being japanese because people believe that they were losing their jobs because of japanese automakers. so it's just been this continuous scapegoating of asians for decades and decades. >> this past thursday, the senate passed an anti-asian hate crimes bill with bipartisan support. the only no vote was missouri republican josh hawley. how far do you think the legislation could go toward making a difference? >> well, it's hard to say.

i think the legislation will expedite the review of hate crimes at the justice department, and one thing that i think will be helpful is that it will provide support and better tools for local law enforcement to respond to hate crimes and hate-related incidents. i'm just not sure how well equipped law enforcement has been across the country to deal with these kinds of crimes. >> lisa ling, i appreciate it. it was great to see you, lisa. >> thank you. coming up next, you may remember gray davis, the last california governor to be recalled and replaced with a celebrity. we'll tell you about a key new development that puts gavin newsom, the current governor, one step down the recall road. 's. i feel kinder, when nature is so kind to me. find more ways to grow at miracle-gro.com.

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"prime time." >> i'm chris cuomo and this is "prime time." 20 minutes of transparency. that's all north carolina will allow for the shooting video of andrew brown. that was only for brown's family. we, however, have gotten footage of police surrounding brown's stopped car. here it is. it's not much, but it's better than nothing. >> i'm right here. >> it's the cops. you can't call the cops on the feds. >> they shot him? >> yeah. >> now, obviously that is -- those are a couple neighbors talking. that is her present-sense impression of what happened. why is that important? literally we are craving context