simmering pot meet lid. john berman in for anderson. after days of promising and failing to deliver transparency and accountability in the police killing of andrew brown jr., and after days of largely peaceful protests on the streets of elizabeth city, north carolina, local officials have now decided that the best course of action is a curfew, a curfew that as we speak is being broken by the looks of it. just last night, andrew mccabe, our senior law enforcement analyst and a former top fbi official said this about some of the frankly baffling responses he has seen so far from some officials, most notably the county sheriff.

it really defies logic, he said. the way they've handled this situation locally. this comes as another new video comes to light. last night we saw a clip of the immediate aftermath. tonight's footage, according to our source, shows county deputies arriving to serve an arrest warrant on brown. what the two videos have in common is neither come from the body cam of any of the deputies involved. despite repeated promise of transparency and accountability, officials have shown precisely none of that footage to the public. it only asks for a court order to do so yesterday. something our legal analysts tell us they could have easily done on an expedited basis days ago. brown's family and members of the legal team did get to see a 20-second snippet of it yesterday which was enough for one of the lawyers to call it, a, quote, an execution, which might explain why the officials saying the complete footage really, truly, totally ought to be released and soon. it hasn't been. we'll talk about that tonight and other key developments today including the fbi opening a civil rights probe into the

matter. first, though, that new video. it was captured by two cameras at an intersection on the first you'll see a sheriff's department pickup truck roll past, then at the second, the upper right hand corner, you'll see it pull up and according to our source, confront andrew brown jr .

so there's that. there's the body cam video still being withheld, and of course the people out in the streets in elizabeth city. cnn's brian todd is there. brian, as we noted at the top, the curfew went into effect moments ago. what are protesters telling you about their plans for the night? >> well, john, they say they're going to stay out here. they have been briefing some of the protest leaders and others have been briefing members of the crowd what number to call if you get arrested, to say your name loudly and your birthday so they can track you if you get put in jail. briefing them on what course of action to take and a lot of people have dissipated and melted away from the crowd. only a couple dozen people are here. here is kirk rivers. he's been leading the protests every night since we've been out here. kirk, well, tell me first, are

you going to defy the suffer? are you going to stay out here any longer? >> we're here to talk to different ones and make sure we get different -- we, as people that have come together, we kind of said listen, everyone go home. we're not putting no pressure on nobody to stay together because we want to meet with the city tomorrow to show them our track record, to sit down to the table, talk civilized and then see why they institute this curfew. >> you don't agree with the curfew. why? >> no. >> why? >> because we have been peaceful and not had problems, and we've been here and ended around 9:00 every night. so why has this been instituted when there is no burning of buildings, no fights, no cars, nothing is disrupted except for traffic to be able to show that we just want to get things established and get our protest going. that's why i'm here because if somebody decides they arrest, i'll be with them. we're really just thinking about we want to meet with the city tomorrow to see what their reasons are. they might have good reasons and if they do, we're open minded. we're not going in closed minded.

>> speaking of tomorrow, it's a crucial day in court. the judge may rule about releasing that body cam footage. what are you hoping for? >> we're hoping for the best. they said they'll give transparency and release the video and they -- and also, we're even asking for outside representation from the attorney general, independent. we don't want people from this area doing anything. we need outside because the good ol' boy system is in effect in this northeastern north carolina. >> thank you very much, kirk, and good luck tonight. hopefully they don't come for you. all right. so john, the curfew is passed. they haven't come for these folks yet. but they've briefed on what to do if they do. police are warning people in a gentle way over loud speakers that the curfew is coming, and that you may be subject to arrest or other police action if you stay out here. but so far they haven't move on them, john. >> brian todd, please keep us posted. thank you for being there for us. appreciate it.

joining us now, brown family attorney mr. wayne kendall. we showed the newly released video about a minute long. you have seen it, what is your reaction? >> john, first of all, thank you for having me. we discovered that video a couple of days ago. we discovered the cameras, rather, a couple days ago and were able to learn that those cameras are operated by elizabeth city. we were this morning provided with a copy of those videos from those cameras and we provided them to cnn and what we learned is that there was a squad of pasquotank sheriff's deputies, approximately seven persons fully dressed in tactical gear. they rolled up on mr. brown's home and we were able to track the time from boots on the ground to shots fired as being no more than four seconds. there was some yelling, some screaming about put your hands up, put your hands up and right after that, shots were fired.

four seconds at most. that indicates to us what we've always thought was that this was in fact, more or less, extra judicial killing, an execution, if you will. mr. brown's car never moved toward those deputies. in fact, it moved away from these deputies. it moved backwards and on the site, you can see the tracks where he went backwards in an effort to get away and then he cut across a grassy lot and was shot in the back of the head. so everything that we've seen indicates this was an unjustified killing. >> to be clear in this new video we're showing what we see clearly is the police arriving in the tactical gear on the back of that vehicle. it's a little hard to discern exactly what is happening there or hard to make out the audio. you said you heard shots fired.

we've listened to it. it's difficult to make out. i just want to be clear. it's hard to make out. the significance of that time you say is four seconds, the significance of that is? >> well, a suspect who is there being arrested or being searched, police would normally give a command. that person would be given an opportunity to comply with the command. if the person compiles with the command, there is no need to use force of any type and from what we know, what we have seen in the video that was shown to our colleague was that mr. brown had his hands on the steering wheel and what we know from our preliminary autopsy is that he was shot in his right arm four times. and then there was a fifth shot to the back of his head, which is consistent with him backing up and then rolling out toward the street and then shot in the

back of the head losing control of his vehicle, crashing into the tree in the neighbor's yard. >> this, of course, could be cleared up with the release of the body camera footage. do you have any faith this will be released at this point? >> that's correct. it could be all cleared up, all they have to do is show us the body cam footage and we would know exactly what happened. we wouldn't have to speculate or guess. and it's totally within their power to do so. >> do you think you'll see it? >> i'm hopeful we'll see it. we'll get an order tomorrow that will allow us and the public and media and everyone involved to have an opportunity to see exactly what happened. we don't know why it taken so long. >> you and your colleagues on the legal team released a statement earlier saying in part quote the longer law enforcement waits to release the body camera footage to the brown family, the

public, the more our suspicions are raised. what do you believe is happening right now on the part of authorities? what specifically are you suspicious about? >> well, in today's environment with body cams being ubiquitous amongst law enforcement agencies, typically, law enforcement agencies want the get the public out to know exactly what happened in order to build trust between law enforcement and the community. there is simply no reason in this day in time to hide anything to delay, to obfuscate, there is no reason. we simply want to know what happened. the brown family can deal with an adverse situation if it is in fact, an adverse situation but having them to wait to guesstimate what happened is cruel. it's unusual punishment to an extent. >> wayne kendall, appreciate you joining us. thank you so much for your insight. >> thank you for having me.

we'll get perspective from cnn legal and national security analyst ash ra agappa. she's also a former fbi special agent joining us, as well, joe a former nypd officer and author of the book "police brutality matters." asha, there is a lot going on here. really. we only know so much based on the limited video we've seen and the verbal accounts that we've been told by other people who have seen parts of the video. let's just take for a second, though, the idea if, and it's a big if based on what we know this was a justified use of force by the officers, then why the delay in releasing the body cam footage? >> yes, i don't know what this department is doing. i think the previous guest just mentioned that building trust should be a priority right now and if the use of force was reasonable, then it would behoove them to release the video so that that can be seen

or at least some kind of defense articulated. this is why actually the body cam video is actually really important. the standard for the use of deadly force is a reasonable standard and a reasonableness standard based on the point of view of the officer using the force. did they believe that they or others were in danger or that there was going to be, you know, imminent harm and so, you know, even a far away video won't tell the story. what will tell the story from a point of view of the officers will be the body cameras and it just feels to me and by simply escalates an adversarial situation by simply not working with the family and being transparent here. >> and asha, officials in court deal with things on an expedited basis all the time. do you see a reason why the body camera footage isn't released with this much public interest? >> i don't. i can see it not being released

to the public until family has a chance to see it, perhaps, for privacy reasons, courtesy. you know, when a police department, any law enforcement is given authority to use deadly force, they are entrusted with the power of the state. that comes with it a responsibility to be transparent and accountable. that's a part of the, you know, the trust and responsibility that the people for whom they work is being given to them. i don't see any reason. i have not heard one articulated as of yet and i assume that in this case a judge at some point will demand that this be released. >> joest stin is with us also. joe, if you look at the question of deadly force and whether or not mr. brown showed an imminent threat to him or others, can you explain how that works? if he was as his attorney say trying to escape in his car, does that mean that deadly force

could be used? >> no, john, not at all. you have to understand, when we talk about deadly force, look at the components. you got to have the danger, the imminent danger of life for yourself, the officer or someone else. so what has to happen is the officer makes a decision to use deadly force to save a life. if no one's life is at risk and mr. brown was just trying get away, this is not a justified use of force. >> asha, we mentioned earlier the fbi has now opened up a civil rights investigation. can you walk us through what that might look like? >> yes, john. this is -- >> that was to asha. sorry, joe. >> yes, this would be a criminal investigation from the civil rights program of the fbi. this is also the program that investigates things like hate crimes. in this case, what they would be looking at, don, what called a color of law violation. this is based on a federal

statute which makes it a crime to use the authority of the color of law to willfully deprive someone of civil rights color of law here means any authority given to you by a local state or federal government. the important piece here is that the use of force, the excessive force in this case be willful. so we've already mentioned that there is a reasonable standard that's actually a pretty wide -- there is a lot of latitude given to law enforcement officers and so what the fbi would be investigating is, you know, whether basically these officers may have intentional use of force they knew was not justified at the time. i'll just add also that this comes with other, all of the rules of normal investigations so any attempt to have the investigation lie would be potential crimes, as well. >> right. just a federal presence significant in and of itself. do you think this fuels distrust?

the longer it takes for the release of the footage, by the time they do release it, the public won't believe that it's the complete or full story? >> absolutely, john. you got to understand something. the transparency is the key factor when building trust with the community. i see major red flags with this incident. we have an officer retire and several officers resign and we have officers put on administrative leave and now we have a sheriff who is being real candid, not even candid but real limited on providing information. him giving the information to the family's attorney and only giving very small seconds of a video, that's not transparency. that tells me that we have a major problem and this might be as bad as the george floyd incident. >> asha ran gappa, joe estead, i appreciate your time. thank you both very much. >> thanks, john. next, we'll be joined by the city manager of elizabeth city and the promises they made about the investigation and covid, new

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the number of people still on the streets tonight in elizabeth city, north carolina despite a curfew that took effect at the top of the hour. a moment ago, one of the leaders of the protest told us he sees no reason for this curfew. he says the demonstrations have been peaceful, and that he wants to meet with local leaders. joining us now, the city manager elizabeth city, montre freeman. mr. freeman, thank you so much for being with us. the curfew is mao in effect in elizabeth city. can you explain why you felt the need for that measure tonight, and what authorities are prepared to do if demonstrators do not go home in short order? >> yes. so really quick, i do have a twin brother. that's monte.

i'm montre. the curfew went into effect because of some of the results we saw happen last night. the protests ended last night around 9:00. at least that's what we were told. and then there was a second group that went out after that. that group began to do some things, throwing rocks, egged some police car, things of that nature. and so that's a big piece of how we did that. the other piece of executing a curfew is to try to clear the skreets a little sooner because we're having a lot more cars in the city now. a lot more people are here so, a lot more traffic. and we want the try to protect protesters. my initial initiative is till my initiative is to protect the protesters as well as the citizens of elizabeth city. so with so many more people in the city, as you can imagine, protecting those protesters just went to another level. so in my effort to protect them, i instituted the curfew. >> montre williams. i'm the father of identical

twins. i feel like i have to pay a fine for getting your name wrong. i apologize. >> that's okay. >> if the protesters, if the public continues not to get answers, continues not to see the video that they're calling for and they've been told they will see, are you concerned that the tension will boil over? >> i'm extremely concerned. it has been my concern since about day two. in this process. the gentleman that spoke earlier was spot on in terms of transparency. we know that in these types of crisis and intervention trainings, the training is transparency, accuracy, accountability and then you want the try to move to some peace. and the root of all of this is that the family deserves that. it's an honor to be on your show, but it's not a pleasure. i'm here because someone lost their life. their family lost a family member. his children lost their father. so the root of all of this is his family. and if for no other reason, that

family deserves it. and then this community deserves it. >> so earlier we aired new video obtained by cnn that a source says shows sheriff's deputies arriving to serve the warrant to mr. brown. i want to play that video again and get your reaction. so watch, if you can .

>> so what do you believe the video shows? and does it answer any of your questions? >> it does show those deputies in the back of that pickup truck. and it -- you see them when they come up to our city camera beginning to make that left. and at the end of that, it goes out of view. it doesn't really show me, you know, the end result and as you said earlier, it's hard to determine what happens at the end because it's out of the camera's view, but i still have a million questions and if i have a million questions, i can only imagine what the family is experiencing. at this time. you know, those are our city cameras, and our police chief,

chief eddie buffalo said we have cameras we'll download. we don't know what we have. we don't know if it caught anything but we want to turn it over because we don't want to be a holdup and as an attorney, we want to be clear about that evidence if it is evidence we're not even sure. but we wanted to be transparent. in our process. >> you have a million questions, the family has a million questions, the public has a million questions. answers have to be coming soon. montre freeman, appreciate it. thank you so much for your time. >> thank you, sir. take care. the cdc now says fully vaccinated people don't need a mask outdoors in most settings but does the guidance go far enough and how does the slowing pace of vaccinations affect safety outdoors? that discussion up next. ♪ yeah. i missed the bus. [sigh] alright, i got you. success... is cherishing every important connection.

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so the new cdc mask guidance for fully vaccinated people is either a big step, or according to critics, one that's not big enough. masks no longer need to be worn in small outdoor gatherings or when dining with friends, but they're still recommended at crowded events indoors and out. the cdc director said the change was due in part to the fall in cases and the rise in vaccinations. and today president biden called the guidance, quote, another great reason to go get vaccinated. however, the pace of vaccinations now does appear to be slowing, and vaccine

hesitancy among communities of color, rural areas and republican men remains a huge hurdle. dr. sanjay gupta and dr. peter hotez at texas children's hospital and the author of "preventing the next pandemic: vaccine diplomacy in a time of anti-science." so anjay, the rate of vaccinations in the u.s. is at its lowest rate. it's high still but dropping consistently. do you think the new guidelines will give people an incentive to go get vaccinated, or are they still too conservative? >> i think there is still a big conservative here. and they're being cautious, which is sort of been the tone that they've taken throughout this administration. and understandably. it would be hard to loosen guidelines when the numbers were particularly high. but these are still cautious guidelines. and i think a lot of people who may need to be incentivized to get the vaccine may have been people who have already been doing things that the

recommendations are now allowing them to do. so i don't know how big a difference that really makes. we have 61% of the country that says they are either already have received a vaccine or are willing to do it. about 17% say they are in the wait and see mode, this movable middle. and the 20% or so that says pretty much they're not planning on getting this vaccine. so it's really that 17%. and part of it is they say they want to wait and see. so look at the uk and israel. i mean, this is something that might help inspire people a little bit when they look at what's happening in other countries around the world when you have robust vaccination programs. you can start to look like that. maybe that will inspire people. because when you get to that position, then you're sort of more in containment mode, and you really start to achieve a sense of normalcy. we're sort of stuttersteping towards that it's good. don't get me wrong. i like the idea of not having to wear a mask in some of these situations, but i don't know if

it's going to be enough to incentivize. >> so dr. hotez, the cdc has given the green light to do things that a lot of people are already doing, frankly. take texas, one of states that doesn't have mask mandates anymore at all. what do you see in terms of people wearing or not wearing mask there's? and do you think that these guidelines will make a difference? if part of the goal is to incentivize people to go get vaccinated, what do you think the changes will do in terms of that? >> yeah, i mean, we're pretty much doing all of these things here in texas. and depending on where you are, we're even more liberal than that in terms of if you want to use that word for not wearing masks. here is what the cdc didn't do. they're not constructing a road map of where we're headed. and by that i mean we've only got about 40% of the u.s. population that's received a single dose. 29% has received two doses. that's still early on. we're not going see declines in transmission at that level. when we start to hit 60%, what we saw in israel was the numbers

started to go down. and the best vaccinated state in the continental u.s. right now is new hampshire. we're at 60% in the single dose, and now the numbers are starting to come down. i think it would have been more effective if they said look, right now we're doing some incremental things. i understand people are frustrated. but we have good news. we think when we get to a 60% threshold level, we're going come back and liberalize mask recommendations even more. and then by the summer, if we come close to fully vaccinating the american people, we may even look something like we did in the year 2019. and i think that would be very exciting and very stimulating. and it's accurate. it's real. and then people know where we're headed. they see the path. they see the road map. and i think that's what i would have probably focused on. >> professor, what would you like to see the administration do when it comes to some of the disinformation campaigns about vaccines? we're going show some of the ridiculous ones later in the show. >> well, first of all, i think

there needs to be better understanding of where it's coming from. and i have a paper out in nature magazine today that identifies three sources of what i'm calling anti-vaccine, anti-science aggression, because that's what it is. it's deliberate disinformation. so a big part of it is coming from homegrown anti-vaccine groups which are well funded, well-organized that are dominating the internet, the center for countering digital tate haiti estimates around 58 million followers from these organizations. that's how extraordinary it is. then -- and we've seen this i know unfortunately, this expanding anti-vaccine, anti-science sentiment among the political right. it was a few years ago with especially down in texas. that's when they started going after me and i was going up against them. it came out of the fringe republican party. and then it's expanded across the republican party. now we're seeing this play out

unfortunately on the conservative cable news networks. and now as if that weren't complicated enough, to the russian government and what the russians are doing. sanjay, dr. hotez, thank you both very much. just ahead, a report from miami where the problem is essentially school policy at one private institution. all because of one very powerful individual there who's promoted anti-vaxer conspiracy theories. the details with "360" continues. gs us together. my garden is my therapy. find more ways to grow at miracle-gro.com. ♪

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before the break, we mentioned the declining pace of vaccines, and one reason for that decline, vaccine hesitancy that has been fueled by people like senator ron johnson. i see no reason to be pushing vaccines on people. also by the far right echo chaim per with one popular cable news host who specializes in pouty hot takes. last night suggesting people should call the police on parents who make their children wear masks. it would be laughable if this kind of misinformation wasn't having a real impact. but it is.

as our randi kaye discovered at one private school in miami, where the founder's anti-vaxxer conspiracy theories are now school policy for teachers and staff. >> there were all sorts of evidence and stories that came out that said potentially unvaccinated people are being impacted by being around vaccinated people. >> reporter: the fact is there is absolutely no proof that vaccinated people have any sort of adverse effect on those who are unvaccinated. but that didn't stop laila sentner from telling teachers if you're vaccinated, don't come anywhere near our students. >> here we have one of the most powerful tools in our arsenal to protect ourselves and get out of this problem, and they are discouraging the use of it. it's tragic. >> reporter: in a letter sent to employees of this private

school, sentner writes "it was a very difficult decision made with a very heavy heart, but vaccinated teachers must keep away from the children." >> it is an experiment right now. we are all part of the research. >> reporter: in her letter, the school's ceo makes numerous false claims. covid vaccines are still in an experimental stage. they are not yet fda approved. rather, they have emergency use authorization. clinical trials are not scheduled to be complete not 2023. the truth is the vaccines are fda approved for emergency use after extensive testing show they'd are both safe and effective. and clinical trials in adults have been completed for all three vaccines to satisfy the fda's emergency use authorization. some parents like this couple with two children in preschool here thinks the school's ban on vaccinated teachers will keep their kids safer. >> there have been thousands of reports of adverse reactions in those who have not received the jab.

from being around those who have. >> reporter: those reports are false. there is no evidence, none to support the claim. >> my number one responsibility is to protect our children. >> reporter: that may be true, but her claims aren't based in fact, and the school's new policy could be making things more dangerous for the community. because the actual science tells us the more people who get vaccinated, the more quickly we can put this pandemic behind us. this man's children don't attend this school, but he says he might be okay with the policy. would you send your kids to a school that told their teachers they could not be vaccinated? >> maybe. maybe. yeah. >> reporter: all of this should come as no surprise since the school's ceo has frequently shared anti-vaccination conspiracy theorys on social media. in one instagram post, she claims "they," she doesn't say who they are can decrease the population by 15% through vaccines. earlier this month she appeared

with a 9/11 truther on youtube questioning mask wearing for children. >> i would say 80% of our kids don't wear mask. >> reporter: and her letter to the school's staff also promotes a conspiracy theory suggesting because of vaccines, there have been thousands of reports of menstrual cycles being impacted and a 366% increase in miscarriages. >> the type of immunity that they induce in no way affects anything to do with anyone's fertility. >> it's madness. randi kaye joins us now. randi, how many students and teachers does this affect? >> john, it impacts about 300 students and about 70 teachers. and i should note that the tuition here can run as high as about $30,000 a year. and that's the real tragedy. it's because this administrator is buying into these conspiracy theories and really denying these students access to teachers who will want the vaccine, access to the education that these teachers can provide. in fact, on the school's website, they promote medical

freedom from mandated vaccines. and as you heard the ceo there, she says the children, the students are her first priority. but if you look at the science and you listen to the cdc, john, as you know, i don't have to tell you this, they say that these students would -- any students would be a lot safer around teachers who are vaccinated than teachers who are not vaccinated. but the woman here, the ceo, the administrator just doesn't want to believe that or promote that either. john? >> of course they would be safer. randi kaye, thank you so much for that report. appreciate it. up next, with yet another law enforcement shooting of a person of color, i'm going ask a leading democratic member of congress about her take on the events in north carolina about police reform in general as president biden prepares to address a joint session of congress.

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more on our breaking news from elizabeth city, north carolina tonight. a small group of protesters still defying a citywide curfew there, outraged over the death of andrew brown jr. at the hands of sheriff's deputies last week. as we reported at the top of the program, the 22nd snippet of body camera footage of the

incident has been seen by members telephone family and its legal team, but not yet released publicly. these events in north carolina, of course, underscore the national conversation going on about policing and reform efforts. california congresswoman karen bass is the author of the george floyd policing act passed by the house and for now stalled in the senate. >> congresswoman bass, what does it say a week after derek chauvin's conviction for the murder of george floyd, the nation finds itself in a tragically familiar situation where there are serious questions being raised about how and why police killed another black man? >> well, i think it just shows you the extent of the problem. and remember, there are three cases that we're dealing with that happened within hours of the verdict. and there was also a girl, a 16-year-old who was killed as well and a 13-year-old boy.

so actually, that's four cases. on average, about three people die a day at the hands of police. so i think we're just really becoming aware of a problem that has been there for more years than i can count. >> so investigations are obviously important. and there are things that police can sometimes justify in not releasing to the public. >> right. >> while an investigation is ongoing. but in this specific case in north carolina, do you think there is any justification for the police to withhold the video of andrew brown jr. being killed? >> i mean, i am shocked at the way they have mishandled the situation. and i think i don't have a doubt in my mind that this is a complete cover-up. they literally invited the family to come in and see the videotape. and then when they got there, they decided they needed to redact it or edit it. so how could that possibly result in any trust, not just from the family, but from the

entire community? and then just to show them the last 20 seconds of their relative's life was cruel. >> so you obviously sponsored the george floyd act which passed the house now. but you're now in negotiations on what could be a bipartisan bill with republican senator tim scott. what's the status of those negotiations? and what are the specific holdups at this point? >> well, let me just say that actually, conversations started right after march 3rd in the house with the problem solvers caucus under gottheimer, and other members. so they started off bipartisan. and we do have certain issues that are difficult such as qualified immunity and reducing the requirement to prosecute an officer. so right now we see case after case where an officer is involved in a shooting or

something else that resulted in if great bodily injury or death, and then we will see a d.a. not even prosecute, not even bring charges. that's because the bar to bring charges is so high, officers are rarely prosecuted. and then you don't have to worry about having any civil like it which is , in the next few weeks. >> thanks. that will be something the nation would certainly like to see that. as you know, president biden will address a joint session of congress tomorrow night to mark his first 100 days in office. you will win the lottery. you're one of the several dozen or hundreds of members who will actually be in the crowd there.

he is expected to speak about police reform. speaker pelosi did invite me to attend. i want to hear president biden really tell the congress that he wants a bill on his desk in short order. i want to hear the push and the pressure from him. and we know that he has called for this, and if he elevates it to the point of being a key part of his address, i think it will give us the momentum we need to get across the finish line. >> congresswoman karen bass, we appreciate your time. thank you so much for joining us. >> thank you. coming up, a very special birthday to celebrate. anderson's son wyatt turned 1 today. what a year this has been. look at that picture.

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it is especially important in these times of trouble to try to hold on to moments of joy, moments of happiness, even as we mourn the loss of loved ones. we're also blessed with new life and new love. so i just wanted to take a moment to share with you some joyful news of my own. on monday i became a father. i never actually said that before out loud, and it still kind of astonishes me. i'm a dad, i have a son, and i want you to meet him. this is wyatt cooper. he's 3 days old. he's named after my dad who died when i was 10 years old. i hope i can be as good a dad as he was. my son's middle name is morgan, a family name on my mom's side. i know my mom and dad liked the name morgan because i found a list they made 52 years ago when they were trying to find names for me. morgan was on the list. that's wyatt morgan cooper. my son.

he was 7.2 pounds at birth. and he is sweet and soft and healthy. and i am beyond happy. as a gay kid i never thought it would be possible to have a child. and i'm so grateful for all those who paved the way and for the doctors and nurses and everyone involved in my son's birth. most of all, i am eternally grateful to a remarkable surrogate who carried wyatt, watched over him lovingly, tenderly, and gave birth to him. it's an extraordinary blessing, what she and all surrogates give to families who can't have children. my surrogate has a beautiful family of her own and amazingly supportive husband. i'm thankful for all the support they have given wyatt and me. she has kids of her own and i appreciate her support as well. my family is blessed to have this family in our lives. i do wish my mom, my dad, and my brother carter were alive to meet wyatt. i would like to believe they can see him. he imagine them all together, arms around each other, smiling