good evening. we start with breaking news related to the investigation of rudy giuliani. who is now trying to defend himself, after federal agents raided his apartment and office, as well, in new york, seizing

personal-electronic devices in an investigation, according to "the new york times," is tied to his involvement with removal of former ambassador to the ukraine. we will have that story with one of the reporters who broke it in just a moment. first, hours after giuliani told listeners to his radio show today that this investigation is about hatred of him and the president he once represented. our gabby ore is here with the breaking details. so, what's been the reaction to the -- the giuliani raid within the former-president's inner circle? >> well, anderson, the raid on giuliani's manhattan apartment and office has left quite a few trump associates and aides feeling uneasy, about what this could mean for the former president. and those in his orbit. there were several people who have said that this is something that has changed their perceptions of how willing the justice department might be to pursue other, potential investigations into top-trump associates, and those close to

the president. with one source, telling cnn, this was a show of force that sent a strong message to a lot of people in trump's world. that other things may be coming down the pipeline. >> do you have any sense of whether the -- the former president or his associates are -- are -- or -- or what the nature of their concern may be about other-possible federal or state investigations? >> well, we don't know, for sure, if there are other investigations that may be coming down the pipeline as that former-trump adviser said. what their concern is, is that seeing this fbi raid, really sent a signal to quite a few people in trump's orbit that the justice department does take investigations like this seriously. and is not afraid to aggressively pursue these investigations. and so, if there did come a point where a new investigation emerged into the former president, or somebody close to him, that we could see develop -- developments like this, that impact those individuals, as well. >> do -- is anyone talking about, whether or not, they

believe giuliani will remain loyal to the former president? >> well, we are talking about one of the former president's most steadfast allies here. but that has not stopped at least two people close to the former president from raising the question of whether giuliani's loyalty to trump could buckle, beneath the pressure of potential-criminal charges. it -- it would not be unprecedented. of course, we did see michael cohen, the longtime-trump fixer and former-trump attorney, flip on his former boss back in 2018. and then, cooperate with investigators. but, of course, giuliani has come out, and denied any wrongdoing. and in the days since that wednesday-fbi raid occurred, he has played up his relationship with former-president donald trump. >> gabby ore, appreciate it. thanks. as we mentioned, "the new york times" is reporting that at least one of the warrants in wednesday's raid is related to the 2019 removal of the u.s. ambassador to ukraine. a focal point of the former-president's first impeachment trial. sources telling "the times" that investigators were searching for information on giuliani's

conversations with officials in the ukraine and the previous administration about marie yovanovitch. before we introduce him we want to remind everyone of her testimony in 2019 and threats she was under, she says, according to a supervisor at the state department. >> around 1:00 in -- in the morning, she called me, again. and she said that there were great concerns. there were concerns up the street. and she said i needed to get on -- come home, immediately. get on the next plane to the u.s. and i asked her, why? and she said she wasn't sure, but there were concerns about my security. i asked her, my physical security? because sometimes, washington knows more than we do about these things. and she said, no, she hadn't gotten that impression that it was a physical-security issue. but they were concerned about my security. and i needed to come home, right away. >> we are joined now by "the new

york times" ken. so, ken, as we are learning this has created a sense of fear for some within the former-president's circle. what have you learned about how this raid on giuliani's apartment may be related to the u.s. ambassador to ukraine being removed? >> well, investigators saw evidence that relates to rudy giuliani's conversations with some of the ukrainian officials, who were seeking her removal for their own purposes. they had gotten crosswise with her. and were providing giuliani with information that he thought could be used to implicate the bidens. and he thought that this -- that ambassador yovanovitch was -- was sort of impeding his efforts to get these ukrainian officials to, either, provide more information. or ideally, from his perspective, to announce that they had launched an investigation into the bidens. so you had sort of a convergence of interests here, where both these ukrainian officials, on the one hand, and rudy giuliani, on the other hand, each, had their reasons for wanting

ambassador yovanovitch gone. and the prosecutors seem to be developing a theory based on the idea that rudy giuliani may have pushed for her removal, on behalf of these ukrainian officials. in which case, that could trigger the foreign-agents registration act, which requires any american who lobbies on behalf of a foreign official, to register with the justice department. rudy giuliani did not do that. >> and what have you learned about what investigators are looking for on electronic devices, that they seized from giuliani? >> they are looking for communications with, both, these ukrainian officials. there are a few-ukrainian prosecutors who we understand are kind of in the spotlight, here. one is this guy, yuriy lutsenko. the former-top prosecutor in ukraine. kind of, the equivalent of the attorney general there. he was a controversial figure. he had said some things about the bidens, suggesting that he was investigating them. and had, actually, traveled to

the united states and met with rudy giuliani. and provided a bunch of material and testimony that rudy giuliani calls it testimony. it was sort of an interview with rudy giuliani. who then, took that information from yuriy lutsenko, and provided it to the state department. tried to deliver it to mike pompeo, actually. that, in and of -- in an effort, by the way, to get yovanovitch removed, because much of what yuriy lutsenko was telling giuliani was about yovanovitch. that, in and of itself, could trigger -- you don't even necessarily need to lobby for something on behalf of a foreign official. you could merely be relaying information, from that foreign official, to u.s.-government officials. and it -- it would seem that, that was something that rudy giuliani did in a case of passing information, from yuriy lutsenko, to the state department. >> and what's giuliani's latest response? >> well, it's interesting. there -- there's sort of pushback on this idea that he

may have violated this foreign agents registration act and pushback saying he didn't take any money from this yuriy lutsenko guy. despite the fact that he did, in fact, discuss the possibility of working for him as -- as a lawyer. but it doesn't matter. the foreign agents registration act does not require payment, as a condition to -- to trigger this registration requirement. he, also, says that he didn't expressly urge trump and pompeo to fire marie yovanovitch. but he also, sort of, seems to take credit for it. saying that the information that he provided, likely, did play a role in their removal. this is based on some interviews that i did with him, prior to the raid. since the raid, he's also blamed the biden administration and said that the justice department is politicized. and is going after him because of their -- their political motivations. but on the -- on the other hand, he is also admitting and saying that the justice department, in late 2019, served a search warrant or -- or -- or searched his icloud, without his

permission. well, who was in charge of the justice department, then? it was bill barr and donald trump. and so, the -- the sort of explanation or the pushback that this is some kind of political investigation is undermined, a bit, by that admission. >> wow. rudy giuliani contradicting himself. wow. who knew? ken vogel, appreciate it. thank you very much. perspective now from daniel goldman, directly questioned ambassador yovanovitch about giuliani and her removal from office. he is also former federal prosecutor for southern district of new york which is now investigating giuliani. dan, thanks for being with us. so, before we get to giuliani, specifically. this new reporting from cnn that the raid ignited a sense of fear among some in the former-president's inner circle and that -- about the very idea that other things could be coming down the pike. as a former prosecutor, do you think some of those people should be worried? >> well, you never know what a defendant will do, in terms of their cooperation. and sometimes, you don't know what information they have.

i'm not sure that they should glean, from this, that merrick garland is going to initiate a brand-new investigation into donald trump. but if rudy giuliani is charged, and he realizes he is, either, facing several years in prison, or he can cooperate and reduce his sentence. and his cooperation includes criminal activity by donald trump or others in the administration. then, all of a sudden, you have a new case that's sort of been handed to you. so, donald trump, probably, is the one who knows best whether donald trump has anything to worry about. because if he did commit crimes, along with rudy giuliani. payments being made to giuliani. if, somehow, he did get any of the money funneled through giuliani or others, ultimately, to him or his business. then, yes, he should be worried. and if he didn't, and giuliani knows nothing of any-criminal activity that donald trump did, then he shouldn't be worried. >> in light of the -- of the new reporting, everything you know from the -- the

first-impeachment trial. how believable are giuliani's claims that he was working on behalf of the president? and not as an agent of a foreign government? >> well, that's clearly what his defense will be. and the -- the problem with that defense is twofold. one, is -- it's not an either/or situation. the prosecutors would not have to prove that he was only working on behalf of any-ukrainian officials. if he was -- if that was a reason he was doing it, that's enough to prove a crime. and, two, he, you know -- he's already -- we've already established several of the elements of this fara offense. because we know he didn't register. and we know that he -- he admitted, himself, that he tried to influence donald trump to fire yovanovitch. and he -- he also admitted that he provided that information to mike pompeo. and ken is exactly right. that's all you have to do. the question is whether he was doing that, on behalf of the

ukrainian officials, or for some-other purpose. and that's what we just don't know. and i think that the bank records will go a long way. you don't need to have a payment. but in a case like this, where there is a legitimate defense, such as the political efforts that he was making for donald trump. i would suspect that the prosecutors are going to want to show an obvious-and-clear relationship between the ukrainian officials urging giuliani, and giuliani agreeing to try to influence the removal of yovanovitch for them. >> you know, i mean, no doubt, there are going to be many people, trump supporters and others, who -- who maybe look at this and say, look. failure to register as a foreign agent. i mean, does that really seem like such a big deal? is it, you know, being blown out of proportion? why -- why does that -- why is that -- why would that -- why would that matter? >> and this is the -- the sort of the case of why this law is so important. we need to know who is

influencing our foreign policy. and whether donald trump is removing an ambassador, and influencing our policy with ukraine and with russia. because he wants to do it or rudy giuliani wants him to do it, for their own, political reasons. that's one thing. it's entirely another thing, if russian agents in ukraine are paying rudy giuliani to influence donald trump's foreign-policy decisions. and if they are doing that, then we need to know. and that's why rudy giuliani would need to register, with doj, his agency relationship. his relationship with the ukrainian officials. so that everyone knows what the biases are, and what potential conflicts of interest are. without that, you can have foreign interference within our foreign policy. so it's not a trivial matter. this really is a matter of national security. >> giuliani, also, had had a history of, you know, trying to get business in ukraine. i don't know if that would

impact, you know, cooperation with ukrainian officials. in the hopes of, one day, you know, getting some more business down the road from them. i don't know if that would play a role. giuliani's been complaining about the raid. and floating a conspiracy theory about the justice department on fox news. i just want to play that for our viewers. >> yeah. evidence is exculpatory. it proves that the president and i and all of us are innocent. they're the ones who are committing -- it's like -- it's like projection. they are committing the crimes. >> so, he is saying, essentially, the justice department is projecting guilt, onto him. is that something they teach in law school? because that is not something i am familiar with. >> no. rudy giuliani really would do himself a big favor, if he would shut his trap right now. everything he is saying is a political statement, a pr, a messaging thing. trying to rally, you know, the republican base against this prosecution. but none of that matters, in a court of law. and none of that is admissible,

in a court of law. and all he is doing is pissing off the prosecutors, who will, of course, ignore it when they are trying to act in good faith. but you're not currying any favor with people make decisions a about whether or not you're going to -- they are going to try to put you in jail. so, no, none of what he is saying makes any sense, nor has any influence. as -- as ken mentioned, this investigation started under the bill-barr justice department. and now, prosecutors who are apolitical and nonpartisan and following the evidence. and rudy giuliani is trying to make this a political -- you know, political circus. but ultimately, we are dealing with the court of law. we arein not dealing with a sene trial for impeachment. and this kind of a defense does not work, in a court of law. >> yeah. and the fact that this started under bill barr's justice department is, really, a critical point. daniel goldman, appreciate your time. thank you. >> thank you. just ahead. another republican in legal

jeopardy. the latest on congressman matt gaetz and a new report on a letter his former associate sent during the final months of the previous administration about a pardon. spokesperson denies the story. we will discuss what this possible-new evidence means for the federal investigation into the florida congressman. and later, new restrictions on travel to the u.s. from india. a live report from the white house, and new delhi, when we continue. through the dirt. i feel something in me, like a fire, that's just growing. i feel kinder, when nature is so kind to me. find more ways to grow at miracle-gro.com. (gong rings) - this is joe. (combative yelling) he used to have bad breath. now, he uses a capful of therabreath fresh breath oral rinse to keep his breath smelling great, all day long. (combative yelling) therabreath, it's a better mouthwash. at walmart, target and other fine stores.

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payments were made to several of these girls, including the individual who was not, yet, a teen. i did see the acts occur, efficienthand. and venmo transactions, cash app, or other payments were made to these girls, on behalf of the congressman. that's allegedly the letter from joel greenberg to roger stone. cnn has not seen the letter, cannot verify the details of "the daily beast" story. a spokesperson for congressman gaetz issued this statement to cnn. congressman gaetz has never paid for sex, nor has he had sex with a 17-year-old as an adult. "politico" has reported mr. greenberg's threats to make false accusations against others and while "the daily beast" story contains a lot of confessions from mr. greenberg, does not add anything of substance, and certainly, no evidence for the wild and false claims about representative gaetz. in fact, the story goes some way to showing how long representative gaetz was out of touch with mr. greenberg. greenberg's attorney declined to comment to cnn, citing attorney-client privilege.

also, that he didn't help. he never took any money from anybody, and he doesn't recall any letter and he's never heard of greenberg implicating the congressman. he said the portions quoted by "the daily beast" are out of context, incomplete, and he would never try to get greenberg a pardon. stone also told "the daily beast" that he denied asking or receiving payment from greenberg. cnn previously reported greenberg has been providing investigators with information since last year, including information about encounters he and gaetz had with women who were given cash or gifts in exchange for sex. matt. and republican strategist and cnn political commentator, anna navarro. so, matt, what do you make of this newest reporting by "the daily beast"? >> well, i should say we, too, at "the washington post," like cnn, has not independently confirmed it. but i think it's tremendous reporting and gives you a window into what joel greenberg is likely telling investigators. you know, we and you have

reported that he has been in some level of cooperation with them since late-last year. though, he is still negotiating a possible-plea deal to see if he would fully come on side as a witness. and now, we know, kind of, the story he would lay out. but at the same time, i think this sort of could have a negative impact on the case. now, prosecutors sort of have to worry, is this statement that he laid out in this letter to roger stone consistent with what he is telling them, now? if it's not, that's sort of another blow to his credibility. this letter does seem sort of designed to tell roger stone, hey. i can really get matt gaetz and it's in your interest to pardon me, so that that doesn't happen. and that's not, sort of, the back background that you want your witness testifying against matt gaetz to have. it sort of shows his motive. but just, really interesting reporting and we will sort of see how it plays, as joel greenberg negotiates. >> yeah. anna, i mean, again, i want to point out cnn like "the

washington post," have neither obtained nor independently v verified this letter reported from "the daily beast." if true, what would it mean for congressman gaetz and the trump wing of the gop? >> actually, i think for matt gaetz, unless it means that he gets indicted. unless it means that he goes to trial, gets convicted, politically, he is in a very safe district. he -- he could probably be getting investigated for having sex with a 17-year-old camel, and he would still win in the district that he represents in florida. look. i think it's -- i think it's an embarrassment. i think it's cringe inducing. and it speaks so much about how far the republican party has gone, from being the family-values party, it once billed itself as. the only thing that could possibly make this scandal, already involving two-florida men worse, is putting into the mix, roger stone. a third-florida man who was convicted, let us remember, for lying. and, you know, so it's like, as you read it, anderson, you --

you -- you think you're reading a plot by -- right? i mean, now, you have got this guy asking for a pardon. and writing this letter, and wanting to pay roger stone with cryptocurrency. you can't make this up. and in the meantime, you have silence, silence, coming from republican leadership. and the republican caucus. but for, very few members like a adam kissinger. >> there was obviously a lot of reporting about that. his attorney had -- had kind of given an independencation tt indication that -- that -- that was in the works. a lot of time seems to have gone by, without any confirmation of whether or not there actually is an agreement. if there was an agreement, would that be something that would be known, by now? >> well, they have a may-15th deadline to come to an agreement. just the way lawyers and

prosecutors work, in this situation. they are all pushing for the best deal. and i would expect, they're sort of going to push it up to the last minute, right? joel greenberg is going to hold out as long as he can, to get the best-possible deal he can. he's accused of a lot of different crimes. i don't think prosecutors are probably inclined to just let him off, with no-prison time. don't forget, he is accused of having sex with this minor, too, which is a very serious-federal crime if he did so knowingly. so, closer to may 15th, i think, we'll see resolution in greenberg's case. and then, once that domino has sort of fallen, we might see something with respect to gaetz. or not. it's just an investigation, you know, he is not charged with anything. >> and, anna, of course, gaetz is fundraising as much as he can. linking up with qanon-curious congresswoman, marjorie taylor greene. it's kind of what you would expect him to -- to do, i guess. >> look. it's taking -- it's taking a page from the trump hymnal,

right? it's doubling down. it's portraying himself as the victim of some sort of liberal conspiracy. but it's very hard to say that, when this investigation began under bill barr. and with donald trump. what's amazing, to me, is that matt gaetz has all but polished donald trump's shoes. and still, he didn't get a preemptive pardon. same goes for rudy giuliani, by the way, whose -- whose investigation, also, began under trump. and now, you have got this situation, anderson, where matt gaetz is going on a road trip, i guess. with, you know, marjorie taylor greene. it's, like, the political version of "dumb and dumber" going on a -- on a -- on a political trip. and it's -- and i -- you know, but i asked myself. and again, i put this on republican leadership, because it's amazing, to me. it is amazing, to me, that, at the same time they are attacking liz cheney for standing on principle. for being an ideological,

conviction-led republican. they are attacking her. and yet, there is silence with somebody being investigated for sex trafficking and having sex with a minor. that is a level of shamefulness that has fallen upon the republican party. and it, all, has to do with loyalty to trump. it is no longer a party that's about convictions or principles or ideology. it is about one thing. loyalty to the orange emperor. playing golf in far-a-lago. >> anna navarro, appreciate your time. matt, thank you. >> more reaction to congressman gaetz's growing legal trouble and rudy giuliani's defiance as he speaks out against the fbi raid on his apartment and office. democratic congressman adam schiff joins us, next. yeah. i missed the bus. [sigh] alright, i got you. success... is cherishing every important connection. hey, babe.

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returning to our breaking news. the fbi raids the office and apartment of former new york city mayor, rudy giuliani, has left allies of the former president uneasy about what could come next. meanwhile, defiant rudy giuliani speaking out on a radio show. joining us now, adam schiff, chairman of the committee. was related to the removal of u.s. ambassador to ukraine. i am wondering, if it surprises you, that things have reached this stage?

>> it doesn't really surprise me. giuliani was there pursuing business interests. but also, pursuing this smear against the bidens, to try and help his client, the president of the united states. and he was working with these unscrupulous ukrainians, like these former prosecutors, named lutsenko and shokin. these were some of the people he was hoping to get information that could be used against the bidens, by the president. but also, they had their own motives to get rid of the u.s. ambassador, who giuliani felt was a -- a thorn in his side in terms of his corrupt work in ukraine. but corrupt ukrainians also thought she was a thorn. and if he was doing work for them, at the same time he was doing work for the president, and not registering as an agent of a foreign power, that could put him in really serious, legal trouble. >> so, even if he didn't receive money, directly, from ukrainians that -- that were trying to influence him. that doesn't matter? >> well, my understanding is

that he was receiving something of value from the ukrainians to represent them. and here, he was successful in smearing a removing a u.s. ambassador. if he was getting something of value from them, it didn't necessarily need to be in cash. and what was valuable to him? was dirt on the bidens that he could help the president utilize for his campaign. but that'll be an issue that the justice department needs to resolve. it certainly looks like, right now, they think if they can find the evidence. well, that there's probable cause at least that there is such evidence, in heis either home or business. >> for a raid like to that to make. for warrants to be issued on both his office and his home. what stage of an investigation does it -- does the investigation have to be at? and the confidence that the prosecutors have? >> well, i -- i'm not sure that i can tell you what stage it's at. but -- but the -- on the level of confidence, they have to be

pretty darn confident that they have a good-legal case to be made. that these -- these warrants will be challenged. this is not just a lawyer, but the president's lawyer. but any lawyer that has an argument of attorney-client privilege, prosecutors are going to be weary about searching their -- their devices or their homes. so as not to intrude on that privilege. here, they must feel that he was engaged in some crime or fraud, in which case, the privilege doesn't apply. >> is it clear to you, whether giuliani just flat-out ignored the warnings from the fbi counterintelligence division that he was being manipulated by the russian government? either, because he didn't want to believe it or because he didn't care? as we mentioned, giuliani denies "the washington post" report that the fbi warned him. >> well, that's not a surprise, either, that he would deny it if he was warned by the fbi. and i have to think that if the fbi was doing a thorough job, they would have warned him. senator ron johnson acknowledges that he was given a warning, by the fbi. and he was in contact with some of the same people that giuliani

was, and with the same purpose of trying to get dirt on joe biden. johnson claims that, while he was briefed, he thought it was done for -- for unscrupulous reasons so it could be used against him, which i think, frankly, is nonsensical. but nonetheless, giuliani would have been that kind of defense of briefing, also. >> and you are saying basically, possible, entirelily possible, giuliani could have been working both for the president, toward the goals of the president. and toward goals of russian-linked ukrainians? that they -- they're not mutually exclusive. >> no, and in fact, they may be mutually reinforcing. because, you know, some of these people like lutsenko, this former prosecutors. he wanted to maintain his position in ukraine. thought that president trump could help him do that. he also wanted to get rid of yovanovitch, who was an anti-corruption crusader and was making his life difficult. and giuliani had his own reasons for wanting to get rid of

yovanovitch but also to get the help of these corrupt ukrainians to -- to get dirt on the bidens. so, they were mutually reinforcing corrupt interests operating on the part of giuliani and these ukrainians. >> what do you make of the investigation into matt gaetz? and to this new reporting from "the daily beast" about a letter they obtained allegedly written by former-gaetz associate, joel greenberg, who is under federal indictment that purports to say he paid for sex, with multiple women, including a minor, who was 17 at the time. we haven't independently verified the letter. but your democratic congressman ted lieu tweeted, dear gop leader, please remove representative matt gaetz from the house judiciary committee, immediately. the department of justice that is investigating gaetz including alleged sex crimes with a minor, this is a conflict of interest. is it? >> well, i think it probably is a conflict of interest and i don't think he belongs on that committee. but do i have any optimism that kevin mccarthy would -- would

consider what the right thing to do is? no, not any confidence at all. kevin mccarthy has made his bed with donald trump and the trump wing of the party, of which matt gaetz is, very much, in the mainstream. and even though these are really serious allegations, against gaetz. it's hard to see mccarthy taking action against him. it's hard to see the president, former president, criticizing someone who's been loyal to him. tragically, you know, the republican conference in congress is filled with these people. you know, the -- the marjorie taylor greenes and the matt gaetz and others. they have become some of the dominant voices in trump's gop. and as anna navarro was pointing out, you couldn't be farther away from the republican party that at least used to -- to say that it stood for family values. >> yeah. congressman adam schiff, appreciate your time. thank you. >> thank you. up next. we have breaking news with from the white house on travel restrictions due to the covid crisis in india. we will also take you to new

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we have breaking news. the white house will start restricting some travel to the united states from india. as the covid crisis escalates there. in a moment, we'll take you to new delhi, where the hospitals are overrun, out of supplies, and the dead are piling up. first, let's get to the latest on the travel restrictions from our chief white house correspondent, kaitlan collins. so when did the travel restrictions actually begin? and -- and whom do they apply to? >> not until tuesday, at midnight. so, may 4th, 12:01 a.m., is when they actually go into effect. and this is something i was told was under consideration because remember all the chaos that broke out last year when those travel bans went into effect? people were in airports, not sure if they were going to be able to get home. spending a lot of money on tickets. and so, there are a few days here in this period. a lot of people have asked, well, why wait? if the situation is that dire in india and you want these travel restrictions to go into place. that has played a factor into it but it doesn't apply to u.s. citizens, we should be clear about that. so, if you are a u.s. citizen, you can still go back and forth.

the thing is those international-testing protocols do, still, apply to you. so you have to have a negative-code vid test before you get on the flight. if you haven't been vaccinated, you still have to quarantine for two weeks when you get back to the united states. those things are still in place. but this new ban is going to apply to non-u.s. citizens. they have been in india in the last-14 days, they cannot come into the u.s. that is pretty similar to the timeline for those other travel restrictions in place for other countries around the world. but now, they have decided to do india because president biden said this is based on the advice that he got from the cdc as they were looking at not just sky -- skyrocketing cases, anderson, but also the variants we have seen popping up in india. and big questions officials have about how effective those are against the vaccine and how quickly they spread. just a lot of questions they do not, yet, have the answers to. >> kaitlan collins, appreciate it. thanks. last night, on the program, our clarissa ward brought us a really heartbreaking report from

new delhi. bodies everywhere in crematoriums, they are well-past capacity. crematorium's been forced to expand to an overflow area in a parking lot. families are desperate for help. loved ones trying to breathe. people searching for oxygen in the streets but medical supplies are low or used up. almost everyone in this city has been visited by grief is what clarissa told us last night. there were 386,452 cases of covid in india today. another record-daily rise. the country also reported 3,498 deaths. clarissa joins us, again, from new delhi. so, do we know how these new-travel restrictions will be received and implemented in india? >> reporter: so, anderson, it's still very early here. sun just came up. cnn's reached out to the prime minister's office and obviously the indian ambassador to the u.s. but i think there will be probably an understanding that this wasn't a political decision. this was based on the advice of the cdc. i also think that people in

india have been very grateful to the u.s. for all the aid that's been coming in. 400 cylinders of oxygen arrived early-friday morning. a lot of rapid-response test kits. so, there is a sense, more broadly, of the two countries working closely, together, throughout this crisis. and the other thing that's important to underscore, anderson. is that the people who are being hit the hardest here on the ground in india, by this horrific crisis, are -- are basically the poor. they are the working class. they're not people who are likely to be able to travel back and forth to the u.s. that is probably a relatively-small minority of people given the broader, 1.4-billion-people population of india. so, no-official reaction here. but i doubt you are going to see too much. people are very much mired in the sort of everyday logistics of trying to survive. >> we saw in your reporting last night, which was extraordinary, people searching the streets. desperate to find oxygen for

their -- their loved ones. can you give us an update on how widespread, you know, the lack of oxygen, the lack of hospital beds is? and what's being done? >> yeah. i mean, usually when you cover these kinds of crises, anderson, there is a sense that, day by day, the government sort of steps in. and things start to alleviate. but we're just not seeing that, at all. you may remember, in our story from last night, we went to this line of people who were waiting for oxygen. we went, again, today. and the line was even longer. some people were waiting ten hours. and basically, that line wasn't even moving. so, they are waiting for ten hours, with no guarantee that they'll even be able to get oxygen at the end of that line. and the thing that is so heartbreaking is that everyone you talk to, in that line, has a story of pain. has a story of loss. has a story of fear. i spoke to one, young man, who was just 22 years old. desperately, trying to get oxygen for his grandparents. other people, trying to get

oxygen for their loved ones, for their wives. and everywhere you turn, in this city, and -- and you said it in the introduction. you know, everybody here has been visited by grief. there is a profound sense of that. when you walk around and when you talk to people. the government is trying. okay? they've got the navy involved now. they have got the air force involved. they are deploying liquid oxygen across india's railway systems. but from what we are seeing, on the ground, it simply isn't, yet, making a dent. and the peak of this wave could, still, be two weeks away, anderson. >> wow. clarissa, appreciate it. thank you. up next. the latest on florida's drive to enact new-voting restrictions. joining other republican-dominated states which have passed similar legislation despite the fact that there is no evidence widespread-voter fraud took place last year. i will talk with leading house democrat, jim clyburn, about what he thinks that means going forward. get decision tech from fidelity. [ cellphone vibrates ]

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could return a mail-in ballot and restrictions using voting and drop boxes. florida republican governor ron desantis said he would sign the bills into law and republicans in arizona are in the middle of their own unofficial review of more than 2 million votes despite official recounts showing president biden won the state. all of this fostered by the big lie from republicans. that there was widespread fraud in the election. jim clyburn is among the leaders in the house and i spoke to him just before air time. congressman clyburn, appreciate you joining us. what do you make of these efforts by republicans in florida to restrict voting rights there? >> well, i would remind all those who seem to feel that there is something different about having a country being declared a restless country and having entities within the country doing racist things. i think that that's the problem

here. a racist country would never elect barack obama president or kamala harris vice president. but will we tolerate these kind of racially tinged things that are taking place in georgia, in florida and many other states. we now have 47 states that have introduced legislative activities that would in some way suppress voters. what is that about? so we should stop arguing about whether or not this is a racist country. it is not. do we have racist things taking place in this country? by various jurisdictions? yes. and we need to weed it out. >> as you know, many of these measures being pushed by republicans not just in florida but around the country are

predicated on the big lie, the lie that there was widespread voter fraud in the 2020 election. it was one thing when it was a lie told by the former president and people believed it, but now that the lie is being woven into or attempted to be woven into actual laws around the country that will impact elections moving forward is extraordinary. >> it is extraordinary. and it's why it was written years ago that if you fail to learn lessons of history, you're bound to repeat them. we are repeating some things in history which indicate we may not have learned those lessons. and so i would say to my republican friends, let's stop making excuses and stop doing things predicated upon what you know is not true. i don't know why we think that

we do not have enough what i might call credibility with our candidacies and with our candidates that we've got to rig the process. that's what this is all about. trying to rig the system so that they would not have to complete or compete on ideas. >> there's also this situation in arizona where the former president's allies are carrying out an opaque at the very least is one word to describe it audit of 2020 election ballots. there have already been multiple recounts and audits of the ballots in arizona. the arizona secretary of state says it's a fishing expedition for things that don't exist. is this what the future looks like for any race that a party loses? at least trump allied republicans, which is the majority. >> well, it seems that way, and that's why i am very hopeful

that the united states senate will step up and do what they need to do in order to preserve the integrity of this great country. >> i wonder what you made of senator tim scott, who is your colleague from south carolina, the only black republican in the senate, his response to president biden's speech to congress saying republican support making it easier to vote and harder to cheat. is that accurate? >> no, it's not accurate at all. there's been no cheating taking place. this is nothing about -- i would like to know how is it making it easier to vote when you take away voting places, create long lines, then pass a law to make it a criminal act to give people water to drink if they get to be thirsty. what they're going to do is somebody decide i am 80 years

old and i know what it is to be 80. and i need to go to the restroom. i've been standing in this line for three hours. if i were to go there and take the place of that person, that's going to be a violation. come on. this is just crazy stuff. and i would hope that tim and everybody else would just stop perpetuating this foolishness. >> congressman clyburn, i appreciate your time. thank you. >> thank you for having me. coming up, a welcome change of pace after another busy and frankly heavy week. a preview of "the story of late night." how comedians transformed late night in america from its beginnings to what we watch today. that's next. r another school year? (boy) what's cyan mean? it means "cyanora," honor roll. (mimics missile dropping) the ink! dad!!! dad!!! i'm so hosed. yeah, you are. (shaq) the epson ecotank printer.

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