florida is offered a plea deal. now a total of five people out of 400 offered plea deals. >> thank you very much for watching. i'm wolf blitzer in "the situation room." "erin burnett outfront" starts right now. kevin mccarthy caught on tape saying what he really thinks of liz cheney. this as cheney refuses to back down. can the gop handle the truth? former officer derek chauvin asking for a new trial after a photo emerges of a juror with a shirt that said, get your knee off our necks. and what one radio station is doing to make sure. i'm erin burnett. out front tonight, kevin mccarthy caught on a hot mic privately telling a fox news

anchor what he really thinks of liz cheney. this as cheney make it's clear she's not going down without a fight. we're learning that republicans will likely vote next week to purge cheney from their leadership. the reason, she refuses to push trump's big lie about the election. cheney's team issuing response tonight, saying this is about whether the republican party is going to perpetuate lies about the 2020 election in attempt to whitewash what happened on january 6th. liz will not do that. that is the issue. cheney, of course, has not held back on speaking the truth about the election, and that is going to end in her losing her leadership role. media obtained this hot-mic audio of mccarthy before an interview on fox. listen to it. >> i think she's got real problems. i've had it with her. i've lost confidence. >> well, someone just has to bring a motion, but i assume that will probably take place.

>> all right, that audio has been edited. it does not include the anchor's question, but it is clear he's talking about liz cheney. just minutes later in the actual interview, mccarthy was a little more diplomatic. this time though he sent the same message, instead of talking about how he's sick with her and he's done with it, he blamed other gop members. >> i have heard from members concerned about her ability to carry out the job as conference chair, to carry out the message. >> concerned about her ability to carry out the message. well, of course, the message that should matter if you're kevin mccarthy and you're the leader of your party in the house, should be a person's record on gop policy. so we looked at that to see what is liz cheney's record on that. well, she voted with president trump nearly 93% of the time, 92.9 to be exact. she has a nearly 98%, nearly perfect score from the conservative heritage action group. liz cheney is on message, if

message is about policy. but that is not the message that matters to today's republican party. no. this is the message. >> the notion that the election had been stolen or that the election was rigged was a lie, and people need to understand that. >> so, this is not about cheney's conservative principles. she aces that. this is about trump, the gop bosses will not accept that cheney is not perpetuating trump's big lie about the election. a top leader of one of our two major parties is about to lose her power in leadership in spite of her perfect defense of her party's core policies. stripped of her power because she's telling the very basic simple truth about who won an election. as the party punishes those who tell the truth, meantime, it is emboldening those who give air to the lie about the congress. congresswoman elise stefanik of

new york was an early contender to be cheney's replacement. she objected to the presidential election results in multiple states and also said this in a facebook video. >> i have an obligation to act on this matter. if i believe there are serious questions with respect to the presidential election. i believe those questions exist. tens of millions of americans are rightly concerned that the 2020 election featured unprecedented voting irregularities, unconstitutional overreach by unelected state officials and judges ignoring state election laws, and a fundamental lack of valid integrity and valid security. >> okay. that all didn't happen, so harvard university, stefanik's alma mater removed her from an advisory board. senator josh hawley, you of course remember this picture. a fist in the air as he greeted

trump supporters outside the capitol hours before the deadly insurrection. today hawley defended that gesture. >> when i walked by that particular group of folks were standing there peacefully behind police barricades well off of the plaza. and i waved to them, pumped my fist to them and thanked them for being there. and they had every right to do that. >> of course, let's just be clear. the reason that they were there was because of the lie that trump had put out there that hawley had given air for months. this is the utter nonsense that congresswoman cheney refuses to repeat. and to be clear, she's on the verge of being purged from her post in the republican party despite a 98% perfect rating on republican policies and a 93% rating with voting with president trump. what are the chances she survives? >> she little. it could happen as soon as next

week, may 12th. she has very little support within the house republican conference. members that backed her last time are not doing so this time. and very importantly, as you laid out, house republican leader kevin mccarthy who did defend her behind closed doors when she was pushed back in february, this time is not. he raises his words on hot mic that were caught were heard. but also what he said on fox news earlier today saying that she is not carrying the message of her colleagues. but nevertheless, liz cheney is not backing down. we are hearing from multiple sources that she is not going to step aside from her leadership post. she is going to have that vote just as she called for that vote in february and that she ultimately survived. she's willing to have that vote again. but this time almost certainly, she is going to lose that vote. we are hearing also behind the scenes from multiple sources that elise stefanik is consolidating support. she is emerging as the clear

favorite. the republicans are lining up behind her. members of the republican leadership are supporting her as well. so you're seeing a rapid turn of events from liz cheney being the number three republican but growing increasingly isolated amid her war of words with the former president and calling out the president's election lie. now republicans say that is becoming a distraction for their efforts to win back the majority so she's going to be pushed aside almost certainly probably next wednesday, and then after that elise stefanik will emerge as a trump -- she's a trump defender. she's in line with kevin mccarthy, aligned with steve scalise, the number two republican. and that will be almost certainly looks like that could be their new leadership team as we head into the 2022 elections. >> all right, thank you very much, manu. and i want to go now to our political analyst gloria borger along with dan eberhart who joins me on the phone. dan, let me start with you. blood in the water when it comes to cheney. she's essentially done. you heard mccarthy's hot mic

comments about her, right? i think she's got real problems, i've with it with her, i've lost confidence. senator mitt romney's the only republican on capitol hill who has come to her defense. what does this say to you? she's about to be tossed out of leadership role. >> i think this is the exact wrong way for republicans to be going. look, i think we need to have kind of a ronald reaganesque big tent party. and there's a lot wrong with what happened on january 6th. liz cheney spoke her mind, and i think casting her out of the republican leadership is really a twofold problem for kevin mccarthy. one, it goes against the big ten approach, which is if he's going to become the next speaker, he needs to be focused on. for republicans to win, we need to win in the suburbs, we need

to win with suburban leadership. and this creates a problem for kevin mccarthy right now. >> so gloria, mccarthy says members want to replace cheney. so what does this tell you about the state of the party and its voters right now that what kevin mccarthy cares about is whether you're going to say that trump maybe won the election. >> well, the party is still donald trump. and that's all there is to it. and this is just about winning, which is what donald trump cares about, and they want to win control of the house. so, it's about regaining or gaining power in the house of representatives. and they believe that she's inconvenient because she speaks an inconvenient truth. she gets in the way of them talking about joe biden and how much they dislike joe biden's agenda, et cetera, et cetera. as you point out, she is a

terrific spokesperson for conservatism. and her brand of conservatism actually believes in the constitution. and that is not what republicans want to talk about right now. they don't want to go back to january 6th and what occurs. they want to kind of forget about that and talk about joe biden, and they believe she just kind of gets in the way. >> so, dan, you know, you supported of course senator josh hawley in the past. but you were disappointed in him after january 6th. today you say he doesn't regret his actions on that day. and he's raised $3 million in the first three months of this year. a lot of money. and marjorie taylor greene raising about the same amount as well. what do you make of that, and are you going to continue to support hawley? >> well, i'm not ready to denounce hawley, but i'm really looking for other people to support. i think that this idea that the people that run to the furthest right in the party are the ones

that reap the financial rewards of the next fundraising quarter is really, you know, a cause for concern and something that's going to lead to the republican party being marginalized in the medium term. it's a shame to me that the folks in the center right that have clear conservative voices but common sense approaches to things are being marginalized and that the financial rewards are going to those in the furthest part of the party. to me that's a recipe for electoral loss and losing in 2022. i would like to see, you know, more fundraising prowess on those in the center right. and i think folks like josh hawley are going to marginalize themselves with their actions even if they do have an enhanced fundraising base. >> an interesting point. this comes as facebook says it's going to announce tomorrow whether it will reinstate former president trump's facebook and instagram accounts. now, here's the thing. he's been quiet since he got banned from facebook and twitter. i mean, he says things, but it doesn't get the same amplification. it's dramatically different.

what would the implications be of him regaining access to those platforms? >> it's really hard to know. today late this afternoon he sort of opened up his own blog in advance of this decision from facebook as if to say i don't really need you. i think that if facebook says come back on board, obviously he'll get more of a megaphone. the question is, have so many people made up their minds about donald trump that the people who want to follow him will continue to do that, and those who don't won't. but he is within the republican party at least, still very much setting the agenda. and i think that is what we can take out of this whole liz ch cheney debacle which is that donald trump is not going anywhere any time soon and liz cheney is not going to cross him. >> i want to go to the host of the podcast "faft the fact" released under shining city

also. he has also advised president biden on some items. so let me ask you, john, how significant is this moment of history? you've got the republican party. you've got two major political parties in this country. that's how this country is run. one of them is purging one of its leaders with a 98% perfect score from the conservative heritage action group. just because she is standing up to a lie about who won an election, what does this say to you? >> it says that one of our two major parties is totally un-moored from reality. and, as you say, that's not the way a constitutional republic can work. we need two vibrant, vital parties that debate ideas, that debate the course of action about how we solve largely mutually agreed upon problems. we don't need a party that just makes up their own facts when they don't find the discernible reality of eyes and ears to be congenial. and so i think representative

cheney's issues at the moment, i think the social media decision is hugely important tomorrow. one of the interesting things about america is we are very good at moving on quickly. and sometimes that's great, and sometimes it's not. and january 6th now in political time feels like we're talking about thermopoly or some ancient, ancient remote thing. it was january 6th. it was this tax year, it was in the first quarter of this year. and we almost lost our democracy because of what liz cheney is standing up against. >> you raise an interesting point, though, because there are some who may not have thought to this level. when you have a two-party system, you do need two vibrant parties. otherwise one party controls everything. you could end up dealing with things like mexico has had to deal with. when one party is in control all

the time and does whatever it wants. that's what's at stake here. what does it do to our democracy to have one party that is completely shackled to its base, right? a party that in and of itself only now represents 25 to 27% of the american population. >> about two centuries and a half of democratic, lower case d, experience, is at risk, unquestionably. the founders hoped in sort of a dreamy way that we would have a supra party system, that we would be above faction. that far lasted about four minutes. george washington didn't like being criticized by the newspapers and by his opponents. he thought about getting out after one term. and he never had anybody run against him. if you ever wonder where the politicians are sensitive, i'd refer you to george washington. without this clash of parties,

we don't have a capacity to move forward. and the very roots of the work, you know, president biden's been talking about democracy versus autocracy. if you actually do the etymology of that, democracy means the rule of the many, the rule of the people. autocracy means the rule of the one. and that can be the chinese comm communist party. it can be a dictator. it can be one ideology. it can be one world view. but the problem and the virtue of democracy is when we all accept the rules of the game, we all have a chance to advance our interests according to the constitutional safeguards. if you want total victory every time, which is what the republicans want in this era, then, that system falls apart. and you better hope you always

win, because if you're in an autocratic system, you're in one where if you're on top, fantastic, that's great. if you're not, god help you. >> that's right. >> and as you say they may want it but they may end up on the losing side of it every time. and the irony of that. we all saw the moment, john, when cheney's fist bump with president biden last week. it was controversial for many in the party. she said, i disagree strongly with joe biden policies, but when the president reaches out to greet me in the chamber of the u.s. house of representatives, i will always respond in a civil, respectful, and dignified way. we're different political parties, we are not sworn enemies, we are americans. you know, i'm harkening back to the, you know, you lie moment in one of president biden's state of the union addresses. where did the civility go? >> well, it's faded really over the last 30 years or so.

i kind of date this corrosive thing from 1990, '91, '92 when george h.w. bush decided he would break his no new taxes pledge. newt gingrich and others walked out of the white house when the president of the united states and bob dole and others went out to the rose garden to announce a bipartisan deal to control reagan-era deficits. the buyer brand republicans went up to capitol hill and did a rally, cnn covered quite as much as they did the signing at the white house. so you had this kind of breakdown of fundamental respect for the institutions. and fundamental respect is always up for grabs. >> yes. >> no one's saying that, all right, you have to salute. but for liz cheney, whose father served in that chamber, he was white house chief of staff when he was 34 years old for jim

ford, secretary of defense, vice president of the united states. her mother ran the national endowment for the humanities. she's in the house of representatives. presidents come and go, both parties. that's what we want. we want a durable republic. and sometimes you win, and sometimes you lose. and if you don't respect those rules, which is what the republican party as constituted and run now, they don't want to abide by those rules. they are captive to this sense of a will to power at all costs. >> thank you very much, jon meacham. and next, the breaking news derek chauvin asking for a new trial. we have just obtained the official documents. so, is he on solid legal ground? plus, the ceo of the nation's biggest bank warning there could be trouble around the corner when it comes to the nation's economy. the head of the federal reserve

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new trial, citing factors including, quote, the interests of justice, abuse of discretion that deprived the defendant of a fair trial, and a verdict that is contrary to law. the motion coming as one of the jurors explains his decision to attend last year's march on washington. after a photo of the juror brandon mitchell is his name, surfaced online which showed him wearing a black lives matter cap and a shirt that reads, get your knee off our necks. now, the motion does not specify what the alleged jury misconduct is. but the question is does this give chauvin grounds for an appeal? adrienne broaddus is out front. >> high school basketball coach and podcast coach. >> he is better known as juror 52 in the derek chauvin murder trial that ended last month. but now the 31-year-old high school basketball coach is responding to criticism surrounding this photo. it shows mitchell wearing a black lives matter baseball cap and a t-shirt saying, quote, get

your knee off our necks. mitchell told the star tribune this photo was posted to his uncle's facebook account after the march on washington last august, commemorating martin luther king jr.'s "i have a dream" speech. mitchell did not confirm or deny the photo's authenticity to cnn. that march included demands for police reform and racial equality. he told wcco he participated in a voter registration drive in washington, not a protest. >> it was huge to be part of that. >> during jury selection questioning, mitchell was only specifically asked by attorneys about protests in the twin cities immediately following george floyd's death last year. he told the star tribune no to

the following questions. did you or someone close to you participate in any of the demonstrations or marches against police brutality that took place in minneapolis after george floyd's death? and other than what you have already described above, have you or anyone close to you participated in protests about police use of force or police brutality? last week, mitchell talked to us about his experience. >> i feel like the evidence was overwhelming. >> why did you want to be a member of this jury? >> i personally felt like it was an historic moment. by me just being on the jury alone and being a black man from minneapolis, that alone was already historic moment just by being on the jury regardless of what the verdict would've been. >> so, adrienne, just one of many reasons his lawyers says chauvin deserves a new trial. >> this filing is so broad.

in it, nelson writes about failure to sequester the jury. he talks about the judge denying a change of venue. and he also talks about the publicity surrounding the case. it's also important to underscore he does not name brandon mitchell or any of the other jurors in this motion. keep in mind, there are 11 other people who deliberated in that room with mitchell. and we know nothing about them. legally, he had 15 days to file a motion for a new trial. the deadline is tomorrow. erin? >> all right, and all this news of course coming out in the past 24 hours. i want to go straight now to civil rights attorney eriva martin. they're asking for a new trial as aidrienne lays out, based ona variety of reasons. do you think they will be successful? >> i don't think they will be successful. there's been some research done particularly with appeals of verdicts of jury verdicts like in the chauvin case, and in 90% of those appeals they are

unsuccessful. and keep in mind that a lot of the issues raised in this motion for a new trial are some of the same issues that were raised pretrial and during the trial. adrienne talked about the request to sequester the jury for the entire trial, the request to change the venue, the complaints that nelson raised about the publicity, the judge has already reviewed many of these same points and has already determined that there wasn't sufficient evidence presented by nelson for those motions or his request to be granted. >> their deadline to make this filing was tomorrow. so they had to do it by tomorrow morning. they had to do it by tonight. obviously this news coming out about this particular juror, juror number 6 coming out in just the past day. jury misconduct is obviously one of the reasons that they are citing in their motion for a new trial, and they don't specifically mention brandon mitchell or as a specific example of juror misconduct. but i just wanted to look again at one of the questions in the

juror questionnaire. the question is, did you or someone close to you participate in any of the demonstrations or marches against police brutality that took place in minneapolis after george floyd's death? mitchell told the star tribune he answered no. the other question, have you or anyone close to you participated in protests about police use of force or police brutality? again, he said no. do you think that he was fully honest, do you think he lied? how do you look at those questions given what he now says he did? >> i don't see any evidence in what has been reported to date to call this juror a liar. there are some headlines, erin, that say juror lied, grounds for a mistrial. but i don't think we can jump to that conclusion. we have to look at the totality of the evidence. and we also know in this case this juror was asked specifically about his feelings on black lives matter. he said that he had favorable feelings towards black lives

matter. he was asked about seeing the videotape and what his thoughts were about what he saw in the videotape. so i don't think we can cherry-pick those two questions. and what we do know from this juror is that he said he has been brutally honest. clearly that march can be interpreted in a lot of different ways. that march was to commemorate the speech that martin luther king jr. gave. so what he was thinking when he attended that march and when he answered those questions, i don't think there's been nearly enough information presented to us to make conclusions other than he was brutally honest. >> it says, and i'm looking here. he has a very favorable impression of black lives matter. completely consistent as you point out with the hat he's wearing. the shirt he's wearing, get your knees off our necks.

so, obviously that is true, we can assume. but he had a point of view on it. does that give the defense any grounds to say, given what that shirt said, that it's clearly obviously in reference to the george floyd case, that that's an issue? >> clearly, the shirt i think does raise some questions. and we should expect the defense to jump all over that. i'm surprised that it's not mentioned more specifically. when you look at what he does say, he being the defense attorney in that motion, it's a vague statement about the jurors engaging in some kind of misconduct. i don't think that vague statement gives the judge any reason to believe there was misconduct. but that t-shirt could be an issue, an opening for this defense, at least to get some questions of the juror under oath by this judge. >> ariva, thank you so much. i always appreciate your time. next, promising signs pointing to another roaring '20s economic boom. reality or wishful thinking?

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tonight, new warnings about inflation as president biden sells his economic recovery plan. jamie dimon, the ceo of jp morgan giving an interview today with the "wall street journal." >> you're going to have inflation. i mean, just look at the facts. 30% deficit over a two-year period, which is equal to world war ii. but half of the gdp was going to fight a war and you were coming out of a great depression. it's double the kind of spending we did in the great depression. and you have qe which is enormous. >> so this comes after former president obama's national economic council larry sommers also warned of inflation saying, quote, all signs are of inflation starting to break out.

we have the president and of course ec of the federal reserve bank of minneapolis, neel kashkari. so what do you say to these concerns about inflation? >> well, erin, we've been having low inflation, the fed aims for 2% inflation. we've been having low inflation for more than ten years. and after the financial crisis, people predicted that inflation was about to come, it was around the corner, and it never came. the federal reserve has very powerful tools if inflation does materialize, if it surprises us to the upside, we have the tools to keep it in check. what we've said is let's just wait, let's wait till the 8.5 million americans who are out of work today who were working before the pandemic, let's give them a chance to get back into the labor force, let's see how the economy thrives, and if we need to raise rates, we'll do it. but let's not cut off the recovery prematurely. >> so, the economy -- i mean, look, it is recovering by any measure, 6.4% growth annually in the first quarter of this year.

that was before we even had max vaccinations or anything like that. i guess, let's just start with the good news. when we look at the last pandemic that happened, coming out of a world war and other things as well, which are not comparable. but 1918, 1920, 1921, and they had you had the roaring '20s. do you think we're about to have that again? >> it's hard to look that far in the future. hopefully we'll get a productivity boost. why was productivity growing so slowly over the past ten years or so. if it turns out that we're in a higher productivity environment going forward, that would be great for the economy and for all of us. >> okay. so now let me just talk about what happened then. you have this boom, you have all this inflation, you have inflation, and the reason i emphasize that this growth happened before the vaccine was out, there was a lot of federal spending last year, but before this next 6 trillion was a twinkle in joe biden's eye. and here we are with all that

coming. what happened the last time around after the 1920s was the great depression. so do you have fears of that? >> well, i think we'll have to see what congress and the administration are doing in terms of future fiscal packages. there have been proposals to pay for those through tax increases. if they raise taxes to pay for new fiscal spending, those two offset each other. so it really will be determined by the combination of taxes and spending and what that ends up getting spent on to determine whether or not that leads to long-term inflation. as of right now what's been passed in law in terms of the c.a.r.e.s. act and the recovery from covid, i'm not concerned that that's going to by itself lead to a burst of long-term high inflation. but we do need to see what comes in the future in terms of taxes and spending. >> all right. as the chair of a federal reserve bank, you heard janet yellen today say that interest rates may have to go up to keep the economy from overheating. obviously this caused part of a selloff today. do you think that's right that

interest rates need to go up? >> well, at some point of course they do. right now we have interest rates effectively at zero. and we know once the labor market is fully recovered and once we get inflation back to our target we are going to normalize monetary policy. so we know that has to happen. the question is when. how long is it going to take -- remember, today roughly 8 million americans are out of work who were working before the pandemic. i assume that those folks want to work again. how long is it going to take to bring all of those folks back into the labor market and really achieve full employment? we'll see. it may take a few years. >> all right, neel, thank you very much. i appreciate it. >> thank you. neel kashkari, president of the minneapolis federal reserve bank. next, one radio station taking a bold step to make sure its listeners don't forget what happened on january 6th. and liz cheney, her whole life has actually prepared her for this moment. we tested it against our competitor's best battery.

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tonight, one public radio station in pennsylvania making it a mission to never let its listeners forget about the events of january 6th or the politicians who helped fuel the insurrection by questioning the election results. witf says it's committed to keeping the election deniers accountable. for instance, a recent article about a republican state senator

and vaccine access says, in part, quote, state senator ryan aument was one of 17 republican state senators who signed a january 4 letter that asked congress to delay electoral college certification. we have a senior editor at wtif news who helped come up with the idea. you all said, quote, we understand this may be an unusual decision for a news organization to make, but these are not normal times. tell me why you came to this decision. >> well, thanks. and, yeah, that's exactly how we felt about it. pennsylvania was a battleground state from the beginning, as everyone knows. we were covering it intensely, as other news organizations were as well. we heard president trump talk about the election fraud and a rigged election and so forth. and our reporters are not seeing any of that out on the field. and neither was anyone else.

but yet we continue to hear that. so during the summer and fall, we were talking internally, our multimedia news director and our chief content officer and a team of us were talking about what was the best way to cover this as we went forward. we ended up before the election putting language on air and in stories that was basically telling people we're probably not going to know who won on election night, the ballot counting will continue, that's normal. and be patient. so we did that early on. then came election night, and more from trump on election night, and then a slough of pennsylvania lawsuits that went into november and december. and then we had january 6th, where people stormed the capitol and tried to forcibly keep the losing candidate in power. and so that really crystallized those conversations for us into, we felt like we needed to meet the moment really and stand up

for facts and take a stand at that moment. so we workshopped what you just showed. and we workshopped this approach, and then debuted it and vetted it with several people along the way including our staff, and we debuted it in late january. >> the example we gave is that you have a story about vaccine access, and then you put in, we want to make sure you want to make sure you remember where this person stood. because this is still being pushed en masse by so many, it's important to know where everybody stood no matter what you're saying about them. so i understand the premise. but you did invite listeners, readers to share their comments. how has this been received by your audience? >> the response we've gotten has been really overwhelmingly positive. people are speaking out saying that they want to support this kind of trusted journalism and journalism that stands up for facts. we're hearing that from all over the country and even outside the country actually.

so that's been gratifying. we've had some criticism, as you would expect. but really it's been overwhelmingly positive for us. >> so when people ask you why didn't you do this for the democrats who challenged the certification of electoral votes in 2005 for president bush, and in 2017 for president trump, what do you tell them? >> well, we knew we would be asked that, and we answered it in a story in a companion story to the one that i think you showed earlier. but the high-level view of that or basically three things. one is that those challenges did not have a heavy pennsylvania presence or influence in them. we cover central pennsylvania, we cover around 20 counties in central pennsylvania. so that's one reason why our focus is here because pennsylvania played such a large role in this challenge. the second reason is that we didn't have a sitting president at the time manufacturing things

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tonight the "wall street journal" is coming out about removing liz cheney saying she may be ousted because she's daring to tell the truth to gop voters and personal political l risks and saying republicans are look foolish or worse to swing voters to refight 2020 and 2022. liz cheney of course a politician and also a mother of five. her father, former vice president dick cheney. her roots firmly in politics preparing her entire life perhaps for that fight that she is in tonight. >> we were at the wyoming state fair parade in douglas, wyoming. >> reporter: for congress woman liz cheney, politics has always been a family affair. >> does anyone else want to contribute rules of behavior fe being in a parade.

>> reporter: parade appearances coming alongside kids' potty humor. >> i said richard, what's your rule? he said no farting. >> reporter: cheney is the mother of five children from 15 to 25 years old, her oldest son named after former vice president dick cheney and she's featured her family prominently over the years. in her campaigns. >> we're proud of our families deep roots in wyoming. >> reporter: and during her father's years during vice president. her husband is philly harry, a lawyer in washington d.c. that serve in several roles during the bush years. >> she is a very principled woman and, you know, like it or not, what her principles are, she's going to always draw on them and stick with them. >> reporter: cheney's career in politics pedigreed at an early age. >> it's in my blood, you know. i was actually thinking the other day when my sister and i were growing up and my dad was

in, you know, political office, my mom was writing. she was in the regan administration. >> reporter: she now holds the congressional seat her father held for ten years. following in his footsteps after time as a lawyer, years at the state department and work on her father's reelection campaign. a relationship that has remained close to this day. >> liz helped me a lot with my memoirs. >> reporter: in 2013 a family rift became public. >> same sex relationship. >> reporter: she announced her opposition to same-sex marriages even though her sister mary married a woman. >> i love mary very much. i love her family very much. this is an issue we disagree. >> reporter: in congress, cheney has high ratings from conservative groups. a 98% score from the conservative heritage action most recently. >> as republicans, you know, we believe that the government is -- the federal government is serving its best purpose when it stays at limited as possible. >> reporter: a fiscal conservative and a defense hawk

like her father. >> our adversaries need to know we have the will and the capacity to defend ourselves. >> reporter: and sources i spoke with today really reinforced that liz cheney is someone that is extremely strong willed and someone that really believes in her positions. a source told me that she's someone that if she sets her eyes on something, it's very, very hard to get her to move beyond that. certainly all these personality traits on full display up here on the hill as she fights for her political future. >> thank you very much. >> new details on possible plea deals for capitol rioters allegedly involved in some of the most disturbing attacks against police. best deals on all smartphones. let me break it down. you got your new customers — they get our best deals. you got your existing customers — they also get our best deals. everyone. gets. the deals. questions? got it. but, why did you use a permanent marker? because i want to make sure you remember.

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be offered plea deals during their alleged crimes. government attorneys revealed the developments today. the case involves one of the most violent incidents where viral video shows a police officer screaming in pain while being crushed in a doorway. the men pleaded not guilty. so far more than 400 people have been charged in connection to the riot. thanks for joining us. anderson starts now. last night we began the broadcast and said republican house leader kevin mccarthy had a decision to make whether to back or bury the third highest ranking republican in the house liz cheney who has repeatedly bucked party orthodox by spreading lies about the 2020 election and never wavering the vote for the january 6th capitol riot. today it sounds like mccarthy made that decision. what you're about to hear is from a hot mic conversation the republican leader had prior to an interview from fox news. we should note that audio is edited, does not include the fox news anchor's questions, h