we'll see. last time he was a headliner at the doral country club, the doral club in doral outside miami, and he spoke there just a couple weeks ago and said -- he addressed them head on, so we'll see if he takes it up tomorrow night. >> thanks very much, randy. the news continues. let's hand it over to chris. >> appreciate it, coop. i'm chris cuomo. welcome to "cuomo primetime". do you want to avoid another terror attack on the u.s. capitol? if so you need to start paying attention to what is passing at leadership on the four-month anniversary of the insurrection in the party of trump. >> i fully support the audit in arizona. we want transparency and answers for the american people. what are the democrats so afraid of? >> you got the answers from the republicans in that state and the other ones. you don't want transparency because the republicans in that

state are keeping the processes quiet. maybe the fear is based on a reasonable suspicion of a farce to promote a fraud known as the big lie. but this is the talk that got us to that fateful day. now it is fuelling the ascension of trump's apparent choice to replace the highest ranking female member of congress in his party, someone who refuses to repeat the big lie, and that is the sum total of the difference. that is the test. so now you see it play out. what will come of an audit carried out by a nowhere group called cyberninjas? go look up their website. they have no experience in election monitoring. they're using secret processes the state gop is helping them keep secret. they're pursuing conspiracies like fraudulent ballots being flown into arizona from asia.

so now literally these reported ninjas are checking for bamboo traces on ballots. buying into the big lie is now called supporting the team in the trump party. where better to make that pledge than in an interview with the poison populist and trump pardonee, steve bannon? >> my vision is to run with support from the president and his coalition of voters. this is also about being one team, and i'm committed to being a voice and being a clear -- sending a clear message that we are one team, and that means working with the president and working with all of our excellent republican members of congress. >> you mean a shill, not a clear voice. and listen to that -- the president. does she mean biden? he's the president. no. she means to advance the big lie -- trump is the president. because he's still in power

because he really won. and to be clear, even stefanik knows this is just about the big lie. and it's the only credential. how do we know she knows? listen to what she said about liz cheney when she was up for leadership. >> liz, i was very proud to nominate you to serve as our conference chair. that is the highest position of women in the republican conference, and we think you're a huge asset in that role. one of the things that you and i have talked about is the importance of not just supporting women candidates but reaching out to women voters with our message. can you talk about how you plan to tackle that as conference chair? >> well, thank you, elise. >> she endorsed cheney. now she condemns her. it's all about the bona fidees of the big lie. conservatism is gone. stefanik talks to big lie talk.

she does not even walk the gop policy walk as much as cheney did. just look at the voting record. this tells you what it's about. you guys say, look, i got stay with him. i'm conservative. it's not your party anymore. i'm a reagan republican. i believe in -- it's not your party anymore. stefanik only voted with trump 78% of the time over her congressional career. cheney was 93% of the time. the conservative club for growth panned stefanik as not a good spokesperson for the house republican conference. she's a liberal. ooh. 35% cfgf lifetime rating, fourth worst in the house gop. so how is she on the assent? because it's only about the big lie. the evidence is clear -- conservatism was in conflict with trumpism. always was.

the conservatives swallowed him because -- and what he did and said because they wanted to power. but now he's taken it over. he's winning. the party is increasingly about opposing any biden policy, debunking the idea of any -- 3/5 compromise, that was good! and pushing the big lie. this is all clear. what is unclear is what can be done about it and what will it mean for our democracy. better minds, michael smerconish and charlie dent. good to see you both. charlie, person to person. you knew stefanik. she came in 2014, 2015. she was kind of like the new breed -- let's work with the other side. let's do this, let's do that. how did you find her? >> i knew elise when she came to congress. i had been in for ten years. she was a young, vivacious, more moderate, pragmatic young

millennial woman, and she could speak to constituencies that republicans have difficult with -- women and younger people. and that was her brand, and she was very good at it. she's very adroit, talented. she's very smart. i worked with her on issues like -- i remember when trump wanted to not allow the transgender to serve in the military. she led the charge to help stop that from happening. i worked with her on that. i worked with her on missile defense at ft. drum. it i have had a positive working relationship with her. i saw her push back against paul ryan in meetings weekly to push back against the freedom caucus. she would join me in pushing back against mark meadows and jim jordan and mick mulvaney at the time. she was very effective. once that impeachment hearing occurred. that brand changed when she became a trump loyalist. >> what's her play, mike?

>> charlie dent and i have lee lehigh university in common. i i remember a class where dr. frank colon said, remember this -- political parties exist for one reason, and that is to win. even though a lot of folks' hair is on fire at the way the gop is playing this hand, it might be a winning hand. don't overlook that. not withstanding the fact that it's untethered to reality. 2020 was in the a bad year for the gop. did well in the house. at least drew to a 50/50 draw in the u.s. senate. picked up a gubernatorial mansion, did better in state legislatures than did democrats. donald trump drives that base, even though he couldn't pull it off. i don't know if charlie will agree with me, but when all is said and done, those republican members of the house don't care if trump wins, they care if they win, and he will drive their base. >> so charlie, at the end of the

day, we keep citing the statistic, but we need to put it into context. it's 50/50 in the senate, but the 50 -- the 50 senators on the right. i don't know what to call the party -- represent about 20% of the u.s. population. isn't that what this is really about? isn't that what you see in a stefanik? it's a shrinking pie of white and often scared people being scared by politicians like her, frankly, you've got to hold on to that. there is no big tent. >> well, yeah, i think, chris, what you're saying is this -- to too many republicans are trying to reject the diversity of the country. they need to stop fighting it and embrace it and find twice appeal to folks to vote for them. that's what they need to do. when they talk big tent, big tent does not include marjorie taylor greene, the qanon folks

and these whack jobs. we're trying to grow the party certainly on the right, but more towards the center. >> who's we? >> we should be the republican party. that's what it should be doing to grow, to speak out. to meet with -- go into the communities like i had to do. i'd go devali mosfestivals, i ha big -- >> native-americans, african-americans. 3/5 compromises, michael, we're hearing about. it was a good thing. that's what's bubbling up from the bottom. it was to end slavery. native-americans -- you know what is being said about them. this is the move in your party. michael left the party a long time ago. charlie, you just left office, but it's your party.

trying to fight from the outside in. that's what stefanik tells you. that's what mcconnell shutting up. remember what he said? horrible what he did. he can still be held responsible, trump, even once this is over. now -- i don't look backwards. i look forward. it's over. the question, is what is the price michael, what is the chance going into the next election they can get so many people so close to believing that it's all a fraud that we have something like january 6th on a different scale? >> sadly i think it's a pretty decent chance. if 70% of the republicans -- that's according to a cnn survey that i saw -- agree with this narrative, then they're united in that purpose. and i think it sets up a whole series of dynamics that are dangerous for the country, because people might not accept the outcome of the midterm election. then where are we? if the successful strategy is one of republicans sticking

tonight on this issue and they pick up the half dozen seats they need to win the house of representatives, you know who will be setting himself up as the nominee in 2024, that will be donald trump. this is what i'm trying to explain -- as untethered to reality as it may be, it's a pretty decent scenario for him. >> right, and it's about this shrinking number of districts also, right? it's really the politics of the redistricting, charlie. if we look at the numbers. do me a favor, throw up that full screen. 2012 to 2026, 2020, here is the breakdown in her new york congressional district. it goes from 52 democrat, 46 republican. to 40, 53 republican, to 34/54 republican. this was opportunity. it was not a coincidence she went from talking big tent to talking circus.

this is how you stay in. this is the choice your party made. as mike says, there's their choice to win. the question is, for how long? >> that's a pretty trump district. that was held by a republican for 100 years except from 2010 to 2014. she's any way safe district. she had a more modern profile. she certainly has shifted, become much more trumpian. the challenge for republicans right now is there are ill-liberal elements within the party that are moving it in this bad direction where trump is, you know, on this kind of warm feeling towards autocracy. feelings of this protectionism, nativism, all the things we've talked about many times. that's the challenge in the party -- how do you move away from that? we need to get principles leaders in the party standing up, like liz cheney, standing up and talking about rule of law.

by the way, news flash, many of us are putting together what it should look like that embraces tolerance, the constitutional order and, all the things we ought to be standing for as a center right country and party. >> i'm not in the partisan game, although i do believe there should be more than two parties. i'll tell you where you should start with your principles -- fair elections and fan out all over the country. this is where it's headed. smerc and i are going to be talking about how people don't trust the vote all over the country because of exactly what stefanik and these voices are doing around the country now. charlie, i got jump. look forward to hearing the slate of proposals. you're always welcome to argue it here. smerc, you're a gift. thank you very much. the trump party is -- i'm telling you, you have to look at what's happening. this is not my musing. this is not how i feel.

this is as demonstrable as fact. stefanik making the shift is pragmatic. the trump party is about election suppression. they're going to say the last election was fugazi, it was false. we have to make changes to be fair. and every change being made is to undo something that got more people to vote. florida's governor made a show of it on trump state tv this morning. the latest effort to restrict voting rights was in florida. now texas. okay, two of the biggest states in the country. a former texas elections chief on why this is happening. next. i have an idea for a trade. why don't you call td ameritrade for a strategy gut check? what's that? you run it by an expert, you talk about the risk and potential profit and loss. could've used that before i hired my interior decorator. get a strategy gut check from our trade desk. ♪

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parlor talk. i'm not into any of that, and you should know that by now. this is about what is coming next. and this isn't about some kind of apocalyptic fear. i'm telling you, they're going to attack the election process going into it because the numbers are working against them on the right. the big lie is being worked into wisdom. it started as laughable. i'll give you that. especially with republicans validating and certifying the votes in their own states. i got it. but not anymore. with repetition and electeds on the right fueling it it's becoming -- you've seen where they talk to people on the street and they say, i think biden lost. how do you know? we'll see. now what's the next step in you say it's true, and now you make it true. how? law. governor desantis of florida joined retrumplicans in georgia,

florida, iowa, by signing a law to an are strict voting access. i could show you a video, but it was an exclusive live stream event with fox. tonight it is texas putting on a show. the house voting on a bill that, among other things, creates one set of rules for big democratic counties and one set for the rest of the state. key is to remove whatever seemed to drive turnout in the last election in places like houston. you know, where minorities live in big numbers. like what? like drive-through voting, using arenas as voting centers. keep in line. keep them there, nice and long lines. hot. waiting is going to be the new poll tax. a price that seems like it's race neutral because it's about money, it's not about color.

but you're going to have to pay that price to exercise your right to vote, and you're going to wait if you're a minority any chance they can make it happen. my next guest knows the reality in texas. his name is ron kirk. he used to be the secretary of state and the mayor of dallas. ambassador, welcome to primetime. do i have any of this wrong? >> chris, i don't know how much more i can add. i mean, you couldn't have made it plainer and more honest than you did. and the reality in all of these states -- georgia, florida, all those you mentioned -- texas, we are not solving a problem. this is not about correcting any flaws that were in the previous election, and this is not about voter i.d. republicans have done a pretty good job of making this about i.d. if i have one more person say,

if i have to show an i.d. to get on a plane, why not to vote? we already have some of the most restrictive voting laws in the state. this is precisely what you said -- to make it more difficult for people of color, for poor people. but i think it's going to make it difficult for many of our senior citizens, chris, who very much enjoy the privilege of either voting by mail or voting early, and it's all so republicans cannot only keep the damage they already have in texas, but they're trying to breathe life into the lie that donald trump continues to feed to his base that somehow the last election was stolen from him. >> now, one of the mistakes that is sometimes made in combatting these conspiracy theories is we don't repeat it enough. now, part of the weaponization of a theory is repeating it enough. some things bear repeating. they say transparency.

transparency is, i know who you are, so you show an i.d., and everybody has a driver's license. why does something that sounds so simple wind up creating a problem in communities of color? >> well, the reality is they've already done that, chris. we already have voter i.d. requirements in just about every one of these states. now, the reality is there are states, particularly in the south -- my mother and father weren't born in a hospital. most black and mexican americans weren't because they weren't allowed to be. and so they didn't have birth certificates in some cases. then you couldn't get a driver's license. but i want to be clear, this is not about the voter i.d. requirements. we've already fought that battle. >> they say it's about safety. >> that's what i want to talk about. here's the second prompt. ron, you got it wrong.

it's about safety. safety and security means got to shorten some of these periods. we'll give you some time, but shorter. fewer places to drop it off. fewer people that can get it from other people and deliver it, because that's safer. that's what we're trying to do. we're trying to make it so people can't use fraud here. what do you say? >> well, according to the republican's own attorney general bill barr, donald trump's own data security expert whom he fired for saying the last election was the safest and one of the most secure elections we've ever had, this isn't about that. and chris, i've got a very real concern, having grown up in the south, having seen firsthand what my parents had to endure about the combination of what we're coidoing in texas with ou legislature almost unfathomably

about to pass something called constitution to carry wham we saw january 6th at our nation's capitol may become the norm among, quote republican poll watchers, who are going to be armed to the tee. this is simply about creating an environment that makes it more difficult for people of color to vote, and it's going to bring an element of intimidation, the likes of which we haven't seen since the 1950s and jim crow. >> i heard someone the other day say, yeah, they should carry weapons because it will keep them safe. such a safe from the threat of people coming to vote. that's what they want, fewer people coming to vote. we will not leave this alone. every time a law is put up, we'll show what it is and what it is not and we'll have you here, sir. >> thank you for everything you

and cnn are doing to keep this in front of the american public. >> that's the job. be well. >> thank you, my friend. remember how the retrumplicans vote on pandemic relief? i do. it's an easy number to remember. zero voted to pass biden's aid package for millions of struggling americans. so, okay, so what? did you hear what they're saying now about it? bolo. next. go on... put yourselves through all that pain.

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sweeping $2 trillion relief bill. why? because they oppose opportunistically, okay. and here we expose hip okay are hypocrisy. that's the job of the show. the benefits of the package are starting to be felt across the nation. many of the places have representatives that voted against their struggle. vaccine funding, economic relief, helping businesses open back up. republicans all over the country are now promoting pieces of the very legislation that they opposed and voted against. why? because the opposition isn't about principle, it's out of pragmatism. it's to oppose to show you are against biden. they rally the base -- we oppose, we oppose, we oppose. tax and spend, socialist. but they can't have it both ways, not here. this was congressman nicole maliatakis of new york back in

march. >> this is an epic fail. >> is it? in the weeks that followed, the first-term republican would soon issue this -- a news release that celebrated $3.7 million from the package towards community health centers in her district as one of her "achievements". without shame she said she prided herself bringing federal funding back to the district. she didn't vote for it. she voted against it. when she says, i always like this part. it's the other part. that's b.s. republicans all wanted to go smaller. they said things like the $1,400 checks and extended unemployment the and health grants it was too much, too soon. that's fine. those with legitimate arguments, but keep that same energy now. don't forget what house minority leader mccarthy told you.

>> help is not on the way. help is not on the way. >> now he's calling attention to a massive fund that would help struggling restaurants. as is congressman greg pence. sound familiar? he's the vp's brother, the former vp's brother. his tweet reads help is on the way. here was his brother, vp pence, speaking against the bill in february. >> i rise today because the democrats' newest proposal is yet again a political statement rather than a sincere effort at covid relief. >> yeah, that's his brother. that's his brother saying i, not the vp. the vp was railing against it. there he is now. what's the point? look, this is about having it both ways. biden now is working to push republican lawmakers to support his $2 trillion infrastructure plan.

the guess? the republicans will oppose. why? mcconnell just told you, right? he will propose to oppose all biden plans. and if democrats are smart enough to not give them an escape of due process, go through the process, go to committee, let it be marked up, put it on the floor. let's see if any amendments from the right are to compromise or merely to kill. then when they refuse to help on the right and it gets passed any way, bolo. if the republicans muscle this through, you expect to have it both ways, but not on our watch. now, interesting offer -- want a free ticket to the super bowl? nfl is now among the many businesses, cities, colleges dangling delicious and tantalizing carrots to incentivize you to get vaccinated. plus, what could be one of the

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vaccine hesitancy. keep hearing about it. what are you going to do about it? so, there are more covid carrots coming. will it help get some of the 35 million more who need to get the vaccine so experts can get us to what they say is the estimate of herd immunity? the nfl is in. they're offering 50 super bowl tickets to those fans who share how they got theirs or plan to. the mets, yankees, free tickets to anyone who gets a on-site j&j shot. universities, giving students up to $1,000 credit. if you just want free food or beer, some of the companies out there handing out freebies just to get vaccinated. will it work? keep in mind, the next front in our vaccine hesitancy battle is a real problem, because it's not

us. it's your kids. let's bring in dr. ashish jha right now. the number here -- well, let's make you be a politician first. what do you think about the carrots? do you think they'll work? do you think that's the right way to go? >> i like them. the people out there who have not gotten a vaccine yet, a lot of them are on the fence. they're not sure they want to, but they're not opposed to it. if a carrot helps somebody jump off the fence i love it. i think it can only be helpful. >> you hit them with the obvious. some people believe if you get the vaccine you get the virus. not true. that's the rna helping the body learn to fight the virus. you tell them that a million times. that helps with some. carrots, maybe more. that's not about science. that's about policy making. now we get to what the problem is, okay? let's put up the numbers from

the kaiser family foundation. when the vaccine is available, will you vaccinate your kid? right away, 29. wait and see, 32. only if requires by school, 15. definitely not, 19. you got 34% there that are saying no, or only if they make me. wait and see is a nondescriptive polling category. doesn't give you an inclination. right away is 30%. those are terrible numbers. >> yeah, but here's how i see it. i'm more optimistic. first of all, 30% will get vaccinated. i'm in that group. i'm going get my kids vaccinated. they're dpexcited to get vaccinated when they can. wait and see, i get it. this is a new vaccine. parents are going to say, see how it goes. and the data is good. i hope then they jump off the fence and get their kids

vaccinated. then about a third who are only if you make me and no way. maybe some of the schools will push people over. i remain optimistic. i know it's a big hill to climb. we have to get all these people on board, but i do think we'll get there if we keep plugging at it. >> and you have been wrong every time. you were wrong about testing, about mask wearing about where the cases were going, about how to go with the vaccine. so you're brilliant, and it is amazing what you've done at brown university with controlling cases, but the rest of the country has not been brown university, at least not thus far. here's another problem that i'd like your head on. that you start losing the political battle if the restrictions are too stringent because it starts to look like a big brother move. for example, summer camp, okay? cdc guidance -- campers and staff still with the six feet. campers with a cohort, three

feet. six feet while eating, drinking. masks all times. few exceptions. this is all a nightmare with kids, and it's been so long. everything's re-opening. you know, families look forward, if they're lucky enough to afford camp -- i'm italian. i can't take having my kids away from me. but for families who want their kids away or for people more emotionally healthy than i am, this is strict. even fauci said this is conservative and stringent. why? >> i think, look, cdc is playing this super safe. i think it's too stringent. here's what i think is going to happen. as more evidence comes in you'll see the cdc revise it. it will happen in the next few weeks and they'll pull back on most of that stuff. outdoor mask mandates for kids in summer camp? i don't think so. i think you're going to see pulling back in the next few weeks. the cdc often sides on the --

errs on the side of caution. i think they're going pull this back. >> i had a guy in my marina yesterday. i put my mask on when i was walking by, and he kind of laughed. he said, let me ask you something. you drink? i said, yeah, i love tequila. he goes, it's terrible for you. i said, yeah. he goes, you eat meat? i said, yeah. he said it's going to cause cancer. i said, something's going to get me. he said, you're still putting the mask on. they're still creating conditions, not giving you preferences. it starts to sound like overreach and feeds the ted cruzs of the world, the ron pauls of the world who are saying they're just doing this because they can, not because they must. that's a problem. >> yeah, here's how i think about it.

first of all, i agree with you. once people are vaccinated, there's very little they should not feel comfortable doing. these are unbelievably effective vaccines. so the cdc is a great organization. it's got great scientists. they tend to err on the side of caution. they're just very cautious people. the bottom line is i think we're going to have to make some of our own decisions. use science and presumption of innocence. the bottom line is everybody has basic risk tolerances. there are people who are like, don't drink, don't eat meat. that's fine. that's not the rest of us. i think we're going to have to draw lines and i suspect cdc is going to come more in line with where americans want to be. like the summer camp guidance is far too stringent. >> when it's really going to be the big deal, school in the fall. if they're not back -- appreciate you, brother.

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all right, there's a big jobs report out tomorrow, and it is expected to show more people heading back to work. yay! so the president went to l.a. to push his jobs plan. listen. >> american jobs plan is a blue collar blueprint to rebuild america. a blue collar blueprint to rebuild america. to supercharge our economy so we can move goods, get to work, become more competitive around the world. >> i wonder if they'll start letting us wear sunglasses on tv now. it was all a no-no but the president's doing it. in term of the track cal and the politics, the wizard of oz, harry enten is here. first start with the basic. how do we feel about the

economy? >> we're feeling pretty good about it. this is amazing to me. go back to the beginning of the pandemic -- 65% of the americans thought it was poor, even at the beginning of this year, 56% of americans thought it was poor. now only 45% feel it's poor. 54%, it's good. the last time we went to an economic recovery late oughts into 2010s it took nine, ten years to see this type of turnaround and we've seen it in a year span. so it's clear americans are liking the way things are going right now, significantly more so than the beginning of this year. >> did you say the oughts? >> i think i did. why not? >> why not. does the jobs report, does it matter in the inclinations of republican voters? >> you know, not really. i mean, i don't believe so. look at this. what is a very big problem according to republicans right now.

72% say illegal immigration. just 36% say unemployment. and infrastructure, biden's hoping he might be able to bring republicans along with him on that one. just 23% say the condition of infrastructure is a very big problem. here's the deal. we don't really vote on economics anymore, christopher. >> who's we? >> americans really don't. >> anybody. >> not really. i mean, during trump's term, what we saw was for the first time, even as the economy was getting going, it had no correlation with his approval rating. this is what we're seeing as we go deeper into an era of -- it's something smfolks like myself a continuing to study. as soon as biden took office, republicans' views tanked and democrats went sky high. the economy didn't change overnight. the only thing that changed was the president.

everything is about social issues these days and more than that it's about the party you belong to. >> imagine in donald john trump had not seen the pandemic as an existential threat to the economy and listened to what you were saying and said, hey, let me play to the pandemic. if economy gets hit, they get hit. i'm going to play to being the wartime president, the security guy. we may be in a different world today. i want to skip to your fourth point. i'm hearing about this in many sectors. the economy's coming back. places in the service sectors want to re-open, but where are the workers? what are you seeing? >> this is something that's so interesting. if you just look across a ton of different blue collar industries -- you see in construction, factories, restaurant, trucking. what you see is a lot of these places cannot get people to show up to go to work for them, and this is a very strange thing about this economic recovery we're seeing so far is that, you

know, i think the pandemic screwed with the economy in a way that a lot of people weren't used to and businesses decided to do certain things. for instance, what we saw was that they didn't necessarily put into place the necessary precautions in order to ensure the workers they can stay safe from the coronavirus, right? we have seen a lot of employment packages that have come out. it's not clear what's causing this. >> the right says the people are making more money not working than working so they don't want to come back to work until the checks stop in september. >> that's certainly the case for some folks. there's no doubt about that, but -- >> even though that check is as small as it is, doesn't it mean the wage structure is so screwed up that you'd rather make the unemployment relief check. what does that tell you about your pay scale? >> tells you we're not paying people right. we should pay people more. >> is there any other reason

they conditioan't find workers? >> there's one, if you're trying to put people in the factory and you don't have to social distancing i think that's a problem. we saw early in the pandemic a lot of people in factories were getting sick because they were not putting in place the necessary precautions. i think there are a lot of potential possibilities going on here, but the fact of the matter is no doubt the economy is improving that there are still some major issues in certain industries just luring people back to work, and it's not just about luring people back to work. i'd love to go to scllide three. you skipped it. >> because i'm out of time. >> we're seeing it throughout parts of the economy. fried chicken is much hard to have buy because we're seeing short annals.

ketchup, seeing shortages because have been taking a lot more takeout food and you put those packages in. things are becoming bizarre. it's getting better, but more bizarre in a lot of ways. >> harry enten, thank you very much. we'll be right back.

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