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as you can already see parts of this show will be kbrask and hard to watch, but i really feel like with this episode it's important to show what's going on out here. we've tried to do that with respect to the victims and their families. so welcome to oakland, california, the town, my adopted home that i hope adopts me back. with a conversation around america's need for structural change, what's known as town business. around here there's long been a call to -- wait for it -- defund the police. >> the fight that we had here, the tone and tenor for the next ten years. >> my friend is the co-founder of the anti-police terror project. not anti-police, anti-police terror. it scared me the first time i heard the name, too. >> i think the thing about

oakland, it's the birthplace of somebody and something i think is outside and somebody reallyizes that the party was formed by police and that made the foundation for every single movement that we've seen in oakland. i think that we've gotten to a place where people are fed up. terrorism, most people i see unarmed men, children, people should not be shot in the back. >> oscar grant was one of those unarmed people. his killing by a bay area transit cop kick started a whole new generation of activism. he even kick started me. and this is why many people in oakland are pay paths superficial police reform and instead demanding defund. >> when pro-politician americans

pro up, feliz are ven rated, they can dress like a cop at halloween. that's not the experience i had growing up. >> james birch is a lawyer with a degree from georgetown, a human rights lawyer and a policy maker for atp t. the anti-police terror project is to find ways to communicate across that gap and we chose the path of defund because the economics support our position overwhelmingly. >> ok. let's dig in. pay attention. defund does not mean an immediate end to police. second thing, there's a spectrum here. on the one end, there's reform. way on the other end, there's abolition, and even proponents of abolition recognize that there's no immediate end to police. >> we're not going to to go from

today we have 600 police officers and tomorrow we have none. that's not what's going to happen. that's what we talk about. like whatever reforms we can make that chip away at this current system. here in oakland, but oakland police department gets almost half of our general fund. when you look at oakland in particularly all these years we were in the top one in the country year after year after year. so oakland, what are we paying for? so we're saying defund but what we're talking about is re-funding our communities. >> americas are some of the defundiest funders. we closed hospitals during a pandemic. defund the police is saying cops do too many jobs. like dealing with homelessness, substance abuse, mental health or patrolling the halls of schools. one theory and there are more than a few -- says wait a minute, why don't we take some

of that money back and give it to people who are in charge of those issues. at the same time let's put money back into a program that build public safety and build an economy for everyone. that's defund 101. >> if this was a business, we're getting 50% of our department that's failing and killing people while doing so, we would defund them immediately. >> yes. >> take away the current system and investing in other systems that we think will surk seed. it strips that away and says, just look at the numbers. >> my guy's an accountant. anti-riesist accountants will save us. >> i know to many of you defund is offensive. to others, it's an idea whose time has come. that's because we live in two separate realities in america. why? because racism. and in policing, racism's not a

bug. it's a faech. from the very beginning policing was designed specifically to keep black people in check, not black criminals. black people. don't believe me? i brought backup. most people think police have always been here. it's just the way the society works. >> talk about that, we go back to the founding documents of policing. >> professor nicky jones, uc berkeley, genius, period. >> the founding documents the principles of police published in 1829 when the police force was being established. it's on the relationship between policing and the public. what folks don't understand is that at the time the peel's principles were published, it was black people. that was dictated by the other founding documents. the barbados slave poll in 1661.

that was the document that was basically copied and pasted into the colonies and codified in state and federal law. if we're going to think about any way of really addressing the problem with policing, we have to be able to acknowledge the systemic racism that is embedded in it as a consequence of the barbados slave rolls. >> at what point do they go whoops? >> you see this certainly with the report. >> in 1968, kerner sold two million copies. it exposed the police as the tip of the spear, it pointed to systemic and cultural white racism at the tip of the spear. >> two societies, one black, one white, separate and unequal.

they're complice it. >> so they come out and they dismantle the institution policing and things are good after that? >> don't get me started. these are not black radicals, so what must have come next must have been a revolution in transform nation. >> yeah. >> that did not happen. what did you did see is a transformation of policing. >> but not the way they thought, right? >> we saw the militarization of the police, we saw the rise of the warrior cup and that is happening as the decades march on. we get to the war on drugs. we get to the war on violence. we get to the war on terror and policing is adapting in each moment. so we have now is the most professional, most well-armed, most well-trained police department that we've had in our nation's history, and yet the

fundamental problems have not gone away. >> whenever police do in america is put us in a permanent state of ptsd. >> this isn't about a good apple bad cop. other folks understand an efficient mechanism by which distribute violence. at panera, dinner is hot... and ready to serve. order our warm and toasty sandwiches for dinner tonight

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while it's all well and good to talk about policing, activism and defunding here, to be fair oakland is a bit of a uniform. north, it's different. unlike oakland they abandoned it in the '90s. in case you're just joining us, that's saying a lot. >> i came to va layo because i felt people weren't being heard. >> otis taylor spent the last three years documenting police violence. >> in 2007 there was a viral video about police violence against the black man.

what the aefr has done and pointed it at bystanders. why is this acceptable behavior for a person filming police violence to be threatened by an officer with a gun? that brought me up here. once i got up here, i just started hearing all these stories. >> police in this city have killed 1 people since twenty, giving vallejo one of the highest number in the u.s., including william mccoy, a 20-year-old approached by police on a welfare check while he was asleep in the car with a gun. >> there's a gun in his happen. what are you thinking? >> he's moving. he's not up yet.

>> officers are ok. >> after leaning forward and skrask his shoulder he's given three seconds to comply before six cops fired 55 rounds, killing him. miss say he reached for his gun. no film i've seen shows that. va layo is a distillation of the problems that a lot of populations i think are facing. >> jeff king is a lawyer and teacher at uc berkeley. he's the founder and ceo of open vallejo, a website focussing on transparency here in his hometown. >> our first scoop was they were badges, each for every person they killed. >> we've seen this as click names like grim reapers, vikings

and executioners. in vallejo, they're known in the media as the fatal 14 who are allegedly have been badges for kill s they found that 73% of law enforcement officers had never fired their weapon. ever. 40% of them had been in at least one shooting and about a third of those had been in two or more. there have been 63 shootings since 2000, 30 of them fatal. based on our data it looks like vallejo police have been responsible for about 10% of the homicides in the city.

it took a man almost 2,000 miles away for many city officials to act like police brutality was a problem. >> mr. george floyd, i'm tired. everybody's killing us. not just black and white and just killing us for no reason. >> you have to know who the people who were killed here were. >> every sentence she's spoken but she should start locally. >> the police is saturated with blood of people in this community. the ramos case just jumped out at me. >> angel ramos was killed in twefb by vallejo p.d. he was shot on his own back porch after a neighbor called 911 about a fight.

what was your last thoughts? >> i was just a regular mom at home with my kids. >> yeah. >> got to say it. >> so what is your life like now that you're an activist? >> i find myself a lot more sad, a lot more angry. >> when angel was killed, the media did what the media does. they cut and paste the police narrative in the nightly news leaving the family in tears. she plemgs to break that >> when he came,t walike, yes, sir. it'sike there'no way this e, happenedhe wayhe police happened. they were saying angel was on p of someone about to stapp them. when the police officer to save someone's knife ot him. where does that knife go? medical examiners, they found no knife. they found a knife in the

kitchen. then it was police say angel ramos was threatening a 16-year-old minor with a knife. even the miner told me there was no knife. we were fighting. >> we have seen this dynamic play over and over as victims' families cry for justice. >> police describe a mayelee. >> he was no angel character designation followed by the d.a. bumping down the champls for the cops or more likely not pressing arges at all. >> it indicates that he reacted properly. >> the wle system creates a in this show with my name on i i can't say somebody was murdered when clearly was -- i have to say killed. in october 2020 vallejo declared a state of emergcy to get e situation in the department under control.

vallejo police shareef has said, quote, the police department takes all allegations of misconduct very seriously. we want our community to know that we are committed to creating a culture of accountability, transparency and discipline that draws us closer together rather than apart, end quote. and look, we are years away from knowing if these moves will actually change the department. hopefully so, but understandably, after all this death, many in the community remain skeptical. what happened to the officer who shot your brother? >> he transinto cops. that's his position. >> in vallejo? >> uh-huh. th is why the culture pervades. >> you wonder why there are systemic issues in policing. that's what we're dealing with in vallejo and in america. can i have both? new dove care & protect body wash eliminates 99% of bacteria and moisturizes for hours

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xfinity. it's a way better way to watch. . in oakland, art is activism and activism is art. and claiming that space is oakland getting hypy and ghost riding and whipping the side show man, i'm old. >> get it all the way across. >> all the way across? >> yeah. all the way across. ok. so that's 197 plus 66.

>> 263. that oakland public school education? >> that's right. it's good. >> rodriguez, you've met him on the show before. he's an oakland native, artist who believes in the power of art to change the world. >> this is a repaste. we took it right in and spread it out. >> her house mate is like me, a nonnative who lives here and has been transformed by the town. he's the curator of justice for our lives, a campaign of remember rens for those killed by police. >> this is not usually stuff you ask permission for, so you want to be as quick as possible. >> get it up and keep it moving. >> pretty much. i started this project in 2014. i was coming back from the annual vigil that they have at the bart station. they just started with our experience. >> it revolved into that. >> yeah.

>> where i saw people would take it off my facebook page and print it out themselves. little by little, i set up the web website. >> part of what we have to do is mourn and grieve and, you know, people createins las vegass. >> i don't know all these stories. you sort of get reminded that it's not just the ones you know. >> wow. look at this. is that a child? are you -- >> yeah. >> wow. >> he was one of the children that died when there was like -- she was one of the young women who died. >> it's heartbreaking to see any killed at the hands entrusted to those entrusted to protect us. it's unthinkable that its kids.

black chimp, especially boys, grow with targets on their backs from day one. you remember that mere rice. >> i went to public schools. when there's overwhelmingly a population of color, the education system, a system that's supposed to be the great equalizer is actually often complicit in mass incars race. >> jackie is the executive director of the black organizing project. she and her team fought to get police out of oakland schools. oakland native nicole lee is the director of the urban peace league. she's a fighter for kids that get caught in the trap of the criminal justice system. >> in oakland, as young as elementary school, school is policed. >> they have their own police department. >> right. you have teachers trying to get

paid enough to live in oak. you have students losing programs. you would think that you would have the resources to invest and your own police department. it just didn't make sense. >> what activated jackie to question the use of school police was the 2011 killing of rahim brown by a brooklyn cop. >> people were trying to get justice for him. we decided to take a different path and look at what was happening sort of widely with the school system. even if it doesn't lead to arrest it can lead to higher expu expulsions. >> it takes away your ability to -- especially inn a kid, do something wrong. >> i think their innocence gets

stolen. >> yeah. >> we spend $16,000 in our school system per student. but last year right here in this coup we spent $490,000 a year per youth to keep a kid in detention. so basically, half a million dollars. you see officials get up and say in order to right size the system, we have to close the schools. but we have 358 beds in the joouf iljustice system. there's 41 kids in there. nobody is telling them to -- >> right size -- >> right size the system. >> right. we want them to go to school. we're not just fighting against something. we're fighting for something. >> they started the bettering our school system or boss campaign, because you got to have an acronym. in 2020 ak nashville accomplished. >> we have dismantled an entire police department.

[ cheers and applause ] >> and there's would-be proud. all these open activists, always saying crazy things like "feed the kids breakfast". >> that's the legacy. we need food. and we need police at a school. >> this is the legacy of countless oakland activists. we have to do for ourselves, because no one else is coming to help us. it is on us, but luckily, we are enough. and it's art that's taken over much of the streets, on walls, on boarded-up buildings. it's about doing for ourselves, too. these are our streets. this is our town. we can make sure that it reflects our spirit, our beliefs, our power, our heroes, and maybe most importantly, a god damn beauty. stand up, oakland.

>> yeah. >> it's beautiful. >> i have to say that i do have a level of pride knowing that i helped a little bit with this. like my oakland card, this is like a punch. >> it's on the other side, man. >> it's definitely oakland that brought this out in me. >> yeah. >> thank you. >> no problem. >> definitely. >> i know. it's like -- >> and now your beard. >> my beard, too? it's gray. >> i used to have more. whether it's a year old or a few years old. we wanna buy your car. so go to carvana and enter your license plate answer a few questions. and our techno wizardry calculates your car's value and gives you a real offer in seconds. when you're ready, we'll come to you, pay you on the spot and pick up your car, that's it. so ditch the old way of selling your car, and say hello to the new way at carvana.

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in 1878, congress passed the k tatis act. soldiers are for war and police are for, well, policing. but since swat was developed in 1965, it's become harder and harder to tell the difference between cops and commandos. each time we declare another war on social ills like the war on crime or drugs, the police become more militarized. that was definitely the case post 9/11 when the government formed restrictions for

terrorism. >> people think that policies put into place after noip really impacted only the arab community or people perceived to be arab. that's not true. noip was a further way to. that's why my organization got involved with the stop urban show campaign. >> she was born and raised in san francisco. she's the executive director of the arab resource center, an unapologetic abolitionist. >> he was, and i say was, the largest military police training in the world. it was taking place on the weekend of 9/11 each year and it was training cops and training firefighters, training nurses to respond to disasters as if they were at war with the community. it also brought the state of israel to come train and exchange tactics and trainings

with local law enforcement and the emergency responders. one can have their own opinion about what's happening in palestine but you can't argue that it wasn't occupied. it was important to shed light on that and for people to know that that war you're watching on tv is happening every day to the every-day people in this country. >> there was a point in which the police was the police and the military was the military and they weren't linked the way they've become linked. >> when we think about swat, we seem historically the intensification of swat units. 1033 program started in 1997. >> it's like the standard action movie scene where the hero starts out with a gun and straps down with all the military kwi789 and weapons he can carry. police departments have to pay the cost of shipping and they can get the stapg of their dreams and our nightmares. it's not just the tanks.

it's the tactics, the training and the mentality. remember officer friendly? i don't. we love the arnold schwarzenegger movies but i don't want commando to show up at my house. >> with you are benn ban shield the goal was redistribution of priorities and of money. if we were going to make our case that it needed to be funded, we needed to show them what should be funded. there is another way possible. that's why it's so extraordinary. >> it's definitely a new day. >> even right wing people who hate to defund the miss have to talk about it. >> when you have words of abolition and defunding police to respond toe it, that's a win. aliens are real, alright. there's just too much evidence. kill weeds not the lawn

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here comes your bougie oysters. >> come on, man. you going to change things, you got to have oysters in order to make something positive. >> pastor michael mcbride. you've seen him on the show before. this is his brother, pastor ben mcbride. he's the malcolm x to his mlk. this is their friend, laron. he was named chief of the oakland police department in 2021 after we filmed with him. they had worked together for years to improve community relations and combat gun violence in oakland.

>> is this different as far as how we are in america specifically around law enforcement? >> for me, it's this moment of being a black man in a police uniform. there are some problems, some systemic problems. it's been in policing for a very long time that you know need to be rooted out so you sit in this place like do i fit in. i ask the question, do i fit in? i'm a black man when i put on a uniform. >> yeah. >> and i'm one when i take it off. >> that was my follow-up. >> some people will see me as a person in blue, they don't think i identify with even those that are protesting. >> i was reading about your work together and something struck me like some of the work you were doing was teaching police officers how to treat people like human beings. >> yeah. >> kind of a deep thing. >> i was like, isn't this something that comes up at the academy? >> no. >> doesn't that define that it's broken?

>> this has become the policing culture. culture is policy for breakfast. >> i see it as more complex than that. the reason i say that is part of what we teach in class is the impact on policing in an environment where every day you are responding to people's emergencies, right, and the realities, studies have show, it's going to have an effect on you. right. so these are mental health things that need to be addressed, too. there are some health and wellness with police officers that this country has not invested in. >> i know parts of the show feel harsh on police. i know the current system doesn't work for many cops, either. dealing with actual crimes, leaves cops jaded, exhausted and frustrated. >> some of the calls i've had, greatest threat to my life, was the one i thought waa simple go talk too a guy. so as i approached him simply to

say, heythe owner doesn't want you on theropert he immediately started pulling a n out his cket and i'm unprepared. i came in this profession because i cared about the community. there are officers every day making the ultimate sacrifice and i think that should be commended. >> i respect t dignity of the public safety agent. >> yes. >> but can you imagine if the size of the police department was the size of the fire department? just like firefighters only show upo put out a fire. >> uh-huh. >> police officers only show up to address -- >> armed- >> armed crimes. they used to be called out to gets cats t the tree. man, that's not a good use of l. that firefighter. >> i hope whatever side you're on you can see the violence we're accidentally seeing is the 50 years since kner has shown.

we've got to imagine new systems with the people's needs. sometimes you might need a police officer, but honestly, how often? >> every day in the city of oakland, a city that's 435,000 people, there are 2,000 calls a day from people who actually have emergencies, right, and would like somebody to respond and provide them a service. >> isn't it a problem they have one number to call? >> right but that's the progression. whatther numr is available? maybe there is a number specifically for mental health issues.al illness-reted >> or a numb to call i black guy is looking at birds in central park. >> saw h looking at rds, waed tlet you know. bye-bye. >> what is the next step? i think w enforcement has to prepare themselves for that to do ss. on that maybe you need

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i rib the day oscar was killed. i remember how it spread to the bay area. one of those protests. i remember being afraid. i remember when they were found gmt of something called involuntary manslaughter. >> he was murdered. >> that's right. >> my son was murdered.

>> right here is where the actual bullet had traveled through oscar's body hit the platform floor, bounced back up and went into his chance, collapsing one of his lungs. >> mama wanda is oscar grant's mother. uncle bobby is his uncle and simon is the recently elected on to bart's board of directors. i find out that this is the first time that she's come to the place with where her son was shot in the back and killed. imagine what's going through her mind and what she's sacrificing to be here. >> i recognize you being here. it's incredibly powerful for you to bdoing this work. thers no reason should haveo it. >>hat's ght.

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always say y changed the worrell. do you want to ask her? you kw, you helpedevelop a new voice for black women in for dedes andecades.ignored people have lost their children to ts. the's a grace and a power that only a plaque mother exudes. i know it's tough to be here, but you have no idea what she'll get. >> i am oscar grt. i am traon morris. i am alan blford. i am sean bell. i am jamal crawford. i -- there's so many "i am"s. >> does it ever get too frustrating that we haven't should have learned in oscar? >> ii get down i can't do it. i have to keep the clear focus

to remind myself no matter what, you can't give up, wanda. you got to keep sharing what happened to oscar and what we need to do to end this type of things from happening again. we have an obligation to love others as we love ourselves. that's what our nation needs. >> this whole thing is about love. >> it is. >> oscar brought to the world what love looked like. he didn't just die here. he was resurrected here. his voice is still heard across this world. >> when oscar grant was killed, really felt like an oakland story at the time. but it's a testament to the bay area, testament to osh oscar's family who kept his name out there. the bay area is a beautiful

place. oakland is a beautiful and powerful place. every day people are creating incredible art and ideas that will change the world, but more importantly, change our world. ♪ imagine how many more amazing pieces of art and world shaking ideas could be created if we just didn't have to focus so much on our survival? we didn't live in a system that not only doesn't value our lives but often actively seeks to wipe us out. ♪ you know what this is? this is joy. we could have had a whole choice. you want more of this, we need to dismantle preconceived and in some cases defund the systems that target us and re-fund life.

re-fund liberty. re-fund the pursue with all of this. go on with your bad self. >> thank you. now, don't start anything you can't finish. >> it's a very sbe malt to be in someone's bedroom late at night. >> what i think is. >> that's a person you trust. >> what the hell were you thinking? >> i didn't even know you were jewish. >> so late night became this ritual that americans all gather around. >> you think you're tired now. >> you realize the power o