kabul faced to maintain that. this sort of episode will increase. >> awful situation. i am so worried about what happens in the coming weeks and months. nick paton walsh. thank you very much. that's it for me, erin burnett with "outfront" starts now. "outfront," kevin mccarthy says the gop embraces free thoughts and debates. vaccines offering to 12 or 15 years old. what does sex offender jeffery eps epstein had to do with bill gates and melinda gates'

divorce. >> kevin mccarthy admitting he backs the removal of liz cheney. in an irony, mccarthy writing to his republican colleagues tonight. i quote him. "we are a big party and unlike the left, we embrace free thought and debate." let's talk about this. mccarthy is kicking out cheney for having a different opinion. he says it is for a big party that embraces free thought and debate. wow, he has in polite terms. liz cheney says the election was free and fair and trump is responsible for what happened on january 6th. these are facts and as a point of fact once upon a time, cheney and mccarthy agreed on facts on the crucial points of january 6th.

>> there is no question that the president forms the ed the mo ignited the mob. >> the president bears responsibility on the january 6th insurrection. >> then he flipped it and flew to mar-a-lago. cheney embraced free thought and facts and responded with the truth tweeting "the 2020 election was not stolen, anyone who claims it was is spreading the big lie," turning their backs from the rule of law and poisoning our democratic system. so what did mccarthy say? >> i have had it with it.

you know i have lost confidence. >> it has been edited. it was caught on a hot mic and mccarthy is clearly referring to cheney and not disputing it. he's had it with her for one reason, her stance on trump. if you look at the facts when koim koit comes down to what should matter to republican leader, this is all about policies, he would love her. her lifetime conservative is 80% according to heritage action for america. mccarthy had it with her and he's now backing elise stefanik for cheney's post. stefanik is willing to go ahead with the election lies. she's welcomed in mccarthy's big idea. because of all that tonight, some of the gop warning the tent is about to collapse. republican senator mit romney

tweeting today, quote, "expelling leadcheney won't gaie vote." >> listen to the predictables. what we are predicting is going to happen right now if we continue to lie to our voters is a destruction of the republican party. manu raju is "outfront" tonight. you have been talking to a lot of republicans today, they're not in all locked steps. >> all over the mat.

some are down playing it. others are saying this is not something they're going to get engaged with because it is a housemaner and as marco rubio told me it is an internal house matter and others dodging all together like the wyoming colleague says i am not going to comment whatsoever. others are uneasy and the purge liz cheney won. they are worried of the party. they would be doing this the same and trying to exploit democratic divisions on this issue. he's concerned that democrats are going to exploit republican divisions and he wants to unite. one republican voted to convict donald trump in is impeachment trial, bill cassidy raised concerns about this is effort go going forward.

>> she's being ousted for being disagreeing with the president. we need all republicans on board. there are a whole of republicans disagreeing with it. both sides need to be heard. >> but then you have others and the republicans conference saying donald trump is essential going forward. people like senator lindsey graham, republican ally of the former president and some members of the house freedom caucus who are concerned of replacement of liz cheney, elise stefanik. i am hearing of some push expected at the end of the week for stefanik to replace cheney. never the less, you see a party divided about those efforts of getting rid of cheney. >> thank you, ver very much, i

to go to matthew dowd and van jones. >> so mccarthy sent a letter tonight. what do you say to that? >> well, and maybe he's defining big tent differently than what we would define it as. i bet you need a big tent if it is filled with crazy conspiracy theorists and white supremacy and neo-nazis. the main intent pole of the big tent he's describing is the big lie. the only people that's not allowed in the tent are people that tells the truth. it is a defining line in politics today. it is not progressive verses conservative which is becoming meaningless. it is who stand on the side of

facts and the truths and our democracy and who's on the opposite side of it? that's the defining line of politics today. if he's defining big tent is all the nuts and plates that are apart of the party. >> van, is there room in the republican party for anyone who's against former president trump and that comes down to this issue of do you say the election was free and fair? if you are fraudulent, you are on trump's side. graham's response was in terms of room. sure, you are not going to be a leader of the party if you are antitrump. last lindsey graham, he says it like it is. >> i support president trump and his policies so i have a slightly different view on that. i still think we should not be trying to cancel voices. she's clearly defending liz

cheney. >> there is a split within the gop. >> well, there is. we are in scary territory now. you don't get more conservative than liz cheney. you can't have a more conservative voting record than liz cheney. he was one of the most pro-trump when it comes to polipolicies. you can't get more approach trump or exteconservative. she refuses to go along to something that's false. according to republican lawmakers across the country who at the grass root level certified the election 60 cases including conservative judges, that's her only send. it is enough to get her ripped down from a leadership position.

if that's not cancel culture, i don't know what it is. it is not like you did anything else. >> one thing if there is a litmus test and people don't like it politically. this is a factual thing. matthew, republican senator mit romney tweets tonight. expelling liz cheney leadership won't gain the gop -- >> we need election integrity and reform immediately. >> we want to be able to fix and strengthen our election security and bintegrity. >> democrats have been obsessed with impeachment. >> sleepy joe rejects this approach in favor of locking everybody in their basement. >> joe biden wants to keep them

locked up in the basement. >> 70% of republicans according to a recent poll we did, believed trump's big lie. that's why you have elise stefanik being picked as new leadership. romney is making a big point. that's 70% of 26% or 27% of the u.s. population. is romney right? >> he's exactly right in this. the choice they are making between opportunists to character revealed by donald trump who seems to reveal people for who they fundamentally are. you can't win with 25 o% or 24%r the 23% of the vote.

you not only can't win in a popular vote which i think they will never do. you can't win in key states that are swing states. the senate elections will be decided in swing states and the house election will be decided in swing states. you can't win of the small percentage in it. i think they are continuing with donald trump. before donald trump we need to expand our electric. we need to coalesce our smaller electric. they fundamentally understand that and that's why they are pushing restrictions and state to keep the electric being diverse. they understand and retain only a minority of the country right now and they can't win if that does not equal the popular voting in a given jurisdiction. >> what happens to the republicans who are putting their career in the line here. liz cheney obviously. she's at a leadership at least or probably more.

you got mit romney in his reasons, right? i mean people like cassidy who are coming out to defend cheney or who voted for impeachment. what happens to cheney or cassidy now? >> well, it is up to the voters and republican voters and how many of them want to stay trapped in this bizarre kind of echo chamber. kevin mccarthy knows better. >> yeah? >> we know these people. kevin mccarthy had a vision of the republican party that was a big ten vision. we all know that. the kevin mccarthy bottle of milk has curdled in the trump's retripl refrigerator faster than anything else. that's the sad thing, you had people who know better and people in the past taken rational positions even against

trump and so terrified and so weak in their character that they're joining something that they are literally three or four years ago would have sworn or the enemy of the republican party. they are doing it. i hope that the republican voters will reward people like cassidy and others standing up. it got to be up to them. if you are waiting for the leadership for the party to leave, you will be purging for a long time. >> you are purging themselves with somebody that does not believe that's false. >> thank you both very much. >> it is one of the only ways democrats can fight back against some restrictive voting laws. can senate democrats get even their own party on board. cyber attack on a critical u.s. fuel line. president biden says there is no evidence to blame russia.

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tests for broader capabilities. >> this is a mass destruction for oil supply around the country. at this point the white house says there are no shortages or issues with fuel supply in the east coast. that depends on colonial pipeline, getting this pipeline up and running as quickly as possible or longer than that we could see effects on gas prices and more. this was a ransom wear attack. the cyber criminal locked colonial pipeline out of their computers and demanded ransom. it is the largest refined product pipeline in the united states. it runs across a dozen states and supplied the gas and diesel and jet fuel on the east coast. on a daily basis, there are $2.5

$2.5 million of gallons. >> it shows the vulnerability right there around the entire way of life around this planet. what do you know of this group behind this attack that's called quote on quote, "dark side." >> they are sophisticated and they are good at what they do and they adopt the changes in cyber security. they carry attacks on big targets, electric companies in brazil and banks in italy. that speaks to not only their brazenness but their targets. as you pointed out, this is an indication of not only how big of an attack they're willing to carry out, their targets. that's a vulnerable area. >> oren, thank you very much. i want to go now to the white house with kaitlan collins and

matthew chance. kaitlan, let me start with you. we heard president biden, biden has been quick to blame russia in other attacks, what's going on here? biden went a little further when they were briefing us and saying they were investigating whether any kind of nation sanctioned this colonial pipeline. he went on saying the intelligence officials have said no evidence that russia was behind this. it does not appear that the group is based from russia. that question and how that factors into the upcoming meeting that he's supposed to have with president putin remains to be seen. he did say definitively that meeting will be happening. his officials say they are working through a time and the

date. he seems to be saying yes, we'll have this meeting and it does seem to be something that'll be brought up in that meeting. >> tonight chairman mark warner says the idea that any crime syndicate in russia -- is not believable. does he have a point, matthew? >> i think he does. an or there is very little data in my mind that vladimir putin would know of the existence of the operation and either of proofs of it and the crack down of it. the other thing i would say is that russia has a record of

attacking, not just using cyber attacks to gather information around the 2016 elections or trying to get information of espionage purposes. its got a record of attacking infrastructure in countries that does not like and estonia and the baltic. and in 2015, it took control over the ukrainian palace station and disabled it and cutting off power to more than 230,000 homes. so this may well be nothing to do with the russian state. the russian state does have a record of attacking critical infrastructure in countries it does not like. >> it is very crucial. >> until now biden is taken a tougher stance against putin than trump. he took it to a whole new level when he talked about how he described the putin's interview

with george stephanopoulos. >> so you know vladimir putin, do you think he's a killer? >> yes, i do. >> the kremlin was livid. is that what we are seeing today with biden's much more diplomatic approach, his he hesitancy to call russia out? >> i think it is up and down. after that interview you saw putin say in the united states, we are the real killer. it was something that was describing the united states, tensions were really high between the two is what i am saying. i think what the white house is trying to do now is they're navigating what it is going to look like if biden does sit down for the first time in prison. they're navigating what that's going to look like with this

relationship. i think that he's right that if this group is residing in russia, we know how russia operates. it is something that may not formally sanctioned. that's the question facing the white house. this is something the white house known about for a few days. they had emergency meetings over the weekend, they are looking into this and what it means. they did not tell us why intelligence officials believe russia and they're not behind this. those are still things we are trying to learn. of course you got to keep in mind and they got that upcoming summit in their head. that obviously is a factor in this. >> matthew, that goes along with the top opposition leader that russia's life is in danger. lexie navalny, he was treated after found alive and other top doctors, two of them have died

including the one treating navalny died suddenly. the white house says to release n navalny and putin had not done it. does putin feel he's untouchable right now? >> there has been this weird instances at the hospital where navalny was saved. the third guy who is the head of the hospital who we thought was dead. the russian government is trying to clear out any witnesses. then there is something else happening which is not a conspiracy theory. that's putin and the kremlin ramping up its critics and c casting navalny to jail.

it is a lengthy prison sentence. out of a sense of vulnerability that vladimir putin is feeling at the moment. he sensed the mood in the country is turning against him. he's moving mad to try to crack down on that. >> all right, both very much. i appreciate it. kaitlan and matthew. next, democrats trying to fight new laws aimed at restricting voting by passing a national voting rights bill. can they get the votes even from their own party? the fbi authorizing the pfizer vaccines for 12 to 15-years-old, will parents choose to get their kids vaccinated? everybody's a skeptic. wright brothers? more like, yeah right, brothers! get outta here! it's not crazy.

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right now senate democrats are trying to blunt the impact that the election was stolen.

according to the latest tally, 361 bills restricting voting had been introduced in 47 states as of march 24 and more have been added. i want to be clear, not everyone is a republican state. all of that is true. it is also true that some new restrictions could have a big impact on minority voting specifically and front and center on many of these bills and some of which already become law. republicans tried to change the law? >> this was a massive fraud. >> i continue to strongly believe that we must reform our election laws to verify the identity and eligibility of all voters and ensure faith and

confidence in all future elections. >> trump's followers still believe him and that's why there are so many motivations around these bills right now. >> let me ask you about mitch mcconnell. he says it is an atrocity and every republican poses it and we'll do everything we can to defeat it. you may not have to work that hard because you don't have all the democrats on board. just the bottom line of where you see it right now senator, do you see any chance of your bill passing? >> oh, absolutely. tomorrow is going to be excited because we are going to have the first mark up of the bill. we have been talking to election officials, local officials and

secre secre secretaries of state and democrats giving us a lot of feedback and details. here is how you make automatic voter registration work or ballot tracking. we have adjusted the bill and take it into account. while mitch mcconnell is not on board. republicans across the nation are on board. they support the right of every american to vote and every gerrymandering and stopping billionaires from buying elections. those are the three big things this bill does to defend the integrity of elections across our country. >> you are dealing with all the states bills that are passing because states have a lot of control over their elections. if that's the scenario and you

don't get a federal bill, what's your next move to try to stop some of these restrictions to take place in certain states? to your point, we have now six states that have passed such restrictions. we have another six that's on the verge of passing and their design to prevent communities of colors from voting and poor communities from voting. they're designed to enable election officials and republican part of the country to make it very hard for democrats to get to the polls on election day. we thought we had gotten past this point from 1965 forward when we had the voting rights act passed. almost half a century later, we have this nasty attack on the rights of americans to vote. you will see democrats getting

together, 50 of us, figuring out how to defend the fundamental constitutional rights. it is our responsibility. we are taking an oath in the constitution. we would love to have republicans on board with us but mitch mcconnell says republicans in the senate unlike republican officials and voters said they'll not participate. they want to keep gerrymandering and billionaires buying e elec elections. >> the premise for all these bills happening is because the lie of the election is stolen. that does not mean there are something in the bills that many reasonable person can agree on. i want to talk to you about one specific thing and that's voter id. i know you want to remove strict voter id requirements and some of the states are enacting. you are not trying to get rid of them entirely. it is true though senator as you know that 76% of americans, this

is droaccording to the newest p support requiring all voters to show a government issued voter id to vote. is this a crazy idea? >> well, it is a bad idea and here is why. while we have no examples of any here and there and rare instances of people trying to vote who are not entitled to vote. the states elected security they have used voter's signature to make sure the voter is really the person and if the signature does not match, they follow up. in state after state republicans conducted investigations to try to find out whether people illegally vote, they come up with a zero. it does not happen. what is this all about if you are not solving a problem they

know far fewer members of community members have these ids readily at hands and make it harder for them to vote. that's what this is about. if you are defending equal opportunity for people to vote then you are not going to allowed this artificial premise. you depend on the signatures and the fact that it is a felony to pretend to vote if you are not eligible. those things already work extremely well. >> senator, i appreciate your time. >> thank you. it is a time to drop in-door mask mandates for vaccinated americans. >> we need to be more liberal as we get more people vaccinated. >> that's music to the man you know here, dr. jonathan riner, he's next and then bill and melinda gates. >> hey, i love you and now what's going to happen? so what did happen? we have new reporting tonight.

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out front now is dr. jonathan riner. pfizer clinical trial shows 100% efficacy among this age group. this is an age group that tends to even if they contract the virus not get sick. what's your reaction by the fda and what do you say to get people to vaccinate that group given the other point that i just made that they don't get sick? >> the young in the country are now the reservoir in this virus. if we are going to eradicate this virus, we need to vaccinate the young. right now this is where the virus hospitalized. this vaccine is 100% effective in this age group and super safe. the challenge is getting parents

to give the vaccines to kids. only about 30% of parents are ready to give vaccines to kids right away. another 25% want to wait and see. almost 50% of parents have no intention to vaccinate their kids. that's unacceptable. we need to reach out to educate them how important this is. >> coronavirus cases we have not seen any increase in the past weeks and vaccinations have been going up. >> i think you will see that as we go along and as more people

getting vaccinated. we need to be liberal as we get more people vaccinated. >> you have been saying this for many weeks and dr. fauci is saying that but he's still saying soon. this is a crucial question. is the administration losing valuable time kind of taking the advantage of the trust of the american people. >> i think yes. the administration has been walking a very tight line, trying to protect the large numbers of folks in this country who are still unvaccinated and those people need to mask while as on the other side trying to liberalize what vaccinated people can do. i think we now have to pivot to this message, vaccines really work. they work as well as we possibly could have hoped for and for people who have been fully vaccinated, they need to know they are now immune. they can do things now without

masks. masks are how we stay well until we got the vaccines and now if you are fully vaccinated, you can drop the mask. >> it is the mask. it is just a virtual i guess. >> republican senate eor rand p, there is a hearing tomorrow, this is after fauci said he's been politicized by the public attack that he faced from paul and others like this one. >> you got the vaccine and you are wearing two masks, is that theater? >> here we go again with theater. >> i have never made myself to be the end door and the only voices. >> it has been helping senator paul and raises money successfully. what can fauci need to do to

avoid walking into that trap? >> he needs to stick to the facts and the fact is the case is going down. we need to remind senator paul that the reason we are doing so well now is that we are getting shots in the arms of americans. senator por paul -- it is best dr. fauci to stick to the facts because right now the facts speak for themselves. >> dr. rhiner, thank you. >> my pleasure. new details of gates' divorce, what does jeffery epstein had to do with it? that's great, carl. but we need something better. that's easily adjustable has no penalties or advisory fee.

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>> reporter: they met at microsoft after she started in 1987. bill, the founder and ceo and she worked in product development. >> i was new to microsoft. there were a lot of men there and, you know, you're still looking around, you know. you're still figuring it out. >> reporter: after about a year of that, you know, sort of to our surprise, certainly my surprise,, you know, we said hey, i love you and she said she loved me and it was like wow and now what is going to happen? >> reporter: after 27 years of marriage, their surprising split is a source of great intreeg and questions are arising whether his contact with jeffrey epstein may have played a role? melinda gates was concerned over her husband's relationship with epstein. >> it seems melinda and bill gates met with epstein in 2013 according to a source that we spoke with, and melinda gates

was not happy at the time. >> reporter: that source an unnamed former employee of the gates foundation. melinda gates made her concerns known to her husband. >> she expressed her frustration to bill gates and really didn't feel relationship with jeffrey epstein, especially since melinda gates is a global advocate for women and girls and it was known that jeffrey epstein, you know, had his issues, and that dismay was expressed but bill gates continued meeting and having ties to jeffrey epstein. >> reporter: in fact, according to the "new york times", beginning in 2011 gates met with epstein on numerous occasions including three times at epstein's manhattan townhouse and once staying late into the night. gates emailing colleagues in 2011 his lifestyle is very different and kind of intriguing, although it would not work for me the times reported. a gates spoke person clarifying in 2019 that he was referring only to the unique decor of the

epstein residence and epsepstei habit of bringing acquaintances in to meet mr. gates and in in way to convey interest or approval. bill gates regrets ever meeting with epstein and recognizes it was an error in judgment to do so. in 2019 gates said he did not have a business relationship or friendship with epstein. it not clear whether gates s relationship with epstein played a role in the divorce but while the public just learned about the divorce last week, it had apparently been in the works since 2019 and through the pandemic, according to the journal. >> in the case of melinda, it's a truly equal partner. she's a lot like me in that she's optimistic and she is interested in science. she's better with people than i am. >> reporter: announcing the split last week on social media, bill and melinda gates said quote we no longer we believe we can grow together as a couple in the next phase of our lives.

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stay tuned for this top story tomorrow. the family of andrew brown junior will finally view more body cam video of his deadly encounter with deputies in elizabeth city. it's been 19 days since brown was killed. there are almost two hours of recordings.

members of brown's family have been allowed to see 20 seconds. now they will be able to see 20 minutes according to a judge's order. the public has not seen any of it, not a single frame and tomorrow the family will not get full transparency. they want to blur the deputies faces and of course, there are hours of footage from the different cameras. attorneys for the brown family called brown's death an execution. we'll find out what is actually on the tape. thanks for joining us. "ac 360" starts now. good evening, john berman in for anderson. we're following multiple breaking news. liz cheney is expelled from house republican leadership and who may call the vote. a hay major decision pertaining an unvaccinated segment of the population that could boost efforts to obtain herd immunity. we're talking about our kids or mine literally. we also have a len