and good evening. there hasn't been a day in recent memory, when the entire charade of what's happening within the leadership of the republican party was laid so bare. in three, separate events, all of them happening within roughly a one-mile radius of each other. first was the vote to oust liz cheney from house leadership. started with her daring to tell the truth about the election and the insurrection, the lies about both promulgated by the poforme president.

for more than a week, though, republicans insisted that wasn't why she lost her leadership position. that it was about something else. about making sure everybody in the party was on the same page. just hours after cheney lost her position at a house oversight hearing on the january-6th insurrection. that same page was on full display. >> there was no insurrection and to call it an insurrection, in my opinion, is a bold-faced lie. watching the tv footage of those who entered the capitol, and walked through statuary hall, showed people in an orderly fashion, staying between the ropes, taking videos and pictures. you know, if you didn't know the tv footage was a video from january the 6th, you would actually think it was a normal-tourist visit. >> outright propaganda and lies are being used to unleash the national-security state against law-abiding u.s. citizens, especially trump voters. as a result, the doj has harassing -- harassing peaceful patriots across the country. >> it was trump supporters who lost their lives that day, not trump supporters who were taking the lives of others.

>> when i see this sheet on our timeline. and on the -- let's see dp-- ok. at 2:07 a mob of trump supporters breached the steps. i don't know who did a poll that it's trump supporters. you had the media saying the same thing. just like, you had the media saying officer sicknick was killed with a fire extinguisher, which he was not. but i don't know who did the poll to say that they had -- were trump supporters. >> wow. those are actual members of congress. and just to show you that you're not going crazy, that you did, actually, see what you remember seeing that day. we are going to play all that, again. but next to what actually happened at the capitol. >> there was no insurrection. and to call it an insurrection, in my opinion, is a bold-faced lie. watching the tv footage of those who entered the capitol, and walked through statuary hall showed people in an orderly

fashion, staying between the ropes, taking videos and pictures. you know, if you didn't know the tv footage bwas a video from january the 6th, you would actually think itse was a normal-tourist visit. >> outright propaganda and lies. especially, trump voters. as a result, the doj has harassing -- harassing peaceful patriots across the country. >> it was trump supporters who lost their lives that day, not trump supporters who were taking the lives of others. >> when i see this sheet, on our timeline, and on the -- let's see -- okay -- at 2:07, a mob of trump supporters breached the steps. i don't know who did a poll, that it's trump supporters. you had the media saying the same thing. just like you had the media saying officer sicknick was killed with a fire extinguisher, which he was not. but i don't know who did the poll, to say that they had -- were trump supporters.

>> these people are completely without shame. perhaps, these members of congress should read a letter that a d.c. police officer wrote to all of them, last week. it was shared by republican congressman, adam kinzinger. here's how that police officer describes the day. quote, i was pulled out into the crowd. away from my fellow officers. beaten with fists, metal objects, stripped of my issued badge, radio, and ammunition magazine. and electrocuted numerous times with a taser. that is what happened, that day. to just that one officer. now, as this hearing was proceeding just a short walk away from the capitol building, to the white house. republican and democratic leaders were meeting with president biden, about whether compromise was possible on infrastructure. inc included was house republican leader, kevin mccarthy, who just hours earlier succeeded in pushing cheney out of her

leadership position. so there he was, with a straight face, after having pushed her out for saying there was no election fraud. after having questioned the legitimacy of the election, that's led to 70% of republicans not believing president biden won enough votes to win the presidency. according to this poll from april. now, again, this meeting was going on as that hearing, we showed you earlier, was blowing up. after the leaders exited and spoke with reporters and we want to give you the timing here, exactly. after that first congressman, you heard claim the justice department is going after peaceful patriots. and less-than-20 minutes, before that second one would claim there was, quote, no insurrection. mccarthy responded to a question about the cheney vote, this way. >> i don't think anybody is questioning the legitimacy of the presidential election. i think that is all over with. >> he says no one's questioning the legitimacy of the election? that's all over with? i -- that's, exactly, what republicans are doing. and first, when you question facts about the january-6th riot, you are supporting rioters, who question the legitimacy of the presidential

election. so, yeah, republicans are still doing that. and not only that. and this is really the -- the person who mccarthy is supporting to take cheney's place. elise stefanik. she, herself, after actually being a moderate-republican for most of her life, apparently, or at least her political career. she is now totally on board questioning the legitimacy of the election right now. here's what she said, recently, about that arizona-election audit. and i use that term, extremely loosely. hoping to show massive-voter fraud. >> i, fully, support the audit in arizona. we want transparency and answers for the american people. what are the democrats so afraid of? the voters in arizona, and the state senate in arizona, pursued this audit. i, fully, support it. transparency is a good thing. we need to fix these election-security issues, going into the future. >> these election-security issues. other than, you know, russian attempts at hacking. there's not election-security

issue, in the sense that she is talking about. there is not widespread voter fraud. even today, congresswoman stefanik is not backing down aboutling big lie. this is what she told reports quote i stand by my statement that there are serious issues related to election irregularities in the state of georgia, as well as pennsylvania, michigan, and wisconsin. now, it'd be easy to say maybe kevin mccarthy didn't know that about ms. stefanik but he does. and the saddest part is it clearly doesn't matter. perspective now from george conway. so, george, i mean, i'm -- i don't know why i am flabbergasted after all this time. i mean, kevin mccarthy saying nobody's questioning the le legitimacy of the election. does that make any sense to you? >> not at all. he visited a guy at the mar-a-lago resort in florida, who's basically been doing nothing but issuing statements for the last several weeks. >> he's not just issuing statements. he is interrupting people's weddings, and speaking at

banquets about this. i mean, he'll -- he'll -- it's like he'll do bar mitzvahs. he'll do anything, where he can talk about this. >> no. it's gotten to be completely absurd. and -- and, you know, this is -- this is what we talk about mccarthy. i mean, mccarthy knows better. on january 16th, the day that trump was impeached the second time around. he was on the floor of the house, and he said that the president, president trump, bore responsibility for what happened on january 6th. because he was making, you know, false statements about the election. and that -- that -- that trump should be censured. and now, they are trying to memory hole everything that's happened. they ever trying to memory hole what happened on january 6th. and they're -- you know, he completely is -- they're getting rid of lynn cheney -- i mean, excuse me, liz cheney, because she won't let them do that. and there's good reason for her not to let them do that. you saw that poll you just posted that 70% of republicans

believe that the election was stolen. and that's just incredible amount of deception that has been successful. and it's unhealthy for our democracy. and liz cheney has been saying some things that are absolutely -- should absolutely be totally unobjectionable and uncontroversial, that the election wasn't stolen. that joe biden was legitimately elected. and that -- and that, to say otherwise, and to -- to -- to -- to perpetuate these lies and not to contradict these lies is dangerous to our democracy. >> also, to hear these congressmen just, i mean, debase themselves with these lies. i mean, the republican party used to consider themselves, you know, the president -- the former president considers himself the law-and-order president and a big supporter of police officers. i mean, these congresspeople, who probably claim they -- they are big supporters of law enforcement, as well. i mean, they're pretending that law enforcement was not being attacked by the president's

dec -- the former president's supporters at the capitol that day. i mean, they're -- they're -- they are -- i mean, it's -- it's just shameless. what -- what they are doing. they are trying to rewrite history of what happened. and it is the taking a -- you know, it's a page from the playbook of the former president. you just -- you repeat a lie, enough, and people start to believe it. >> absolutely. and it's just a complete-and-utter disgrace. these people, all, know better. they lived through this. and they -- they saw the violence, up close. they were the ones who had to hide in the basement of the capitol building, out of fear of being assaulted. and for them to pretend that it didn't happen, and that it was -- that -- that there were -- that these people who were breaking and entering and assaulting police officers, were simply acting like normal tourists on a walk on the mall. is just too much to bear. >> i, also, didn't see any of these republican congressmen, you know, standing with police

officers on the day of the insurrection. and saying, you know what? no, i'm not going to go be escorted out to a secure location. i'm going to go -- because this isn't so bad -- i'm going to go and stand with the police officers, and talk to these people. who are just orderly, you know, meandering around the capitol. i mean, it's -- it's embarrassing, and it's just -- i don't know. i just -- again, i don't know why i'm speechless. >> they did that, precisely, because they were in danger. they knew -- they knew that their best place for them, for the chance -- best chance for them to not be assaulted and not be hurt was to -- was to hide. and they expected the police to protect them. it's just remarkable. >> you're joining more than 100 former-republican officials who are signing a letter tomorrow to declare that if the republican party doesn't break with the former president, change course, then there may be cause for a breakaway-conservative party. i mean, is that the only kind of solution? do you still hold out hope for the republican party? >> i, frankly, don't hold out

much hope in its current -- in its current form. after everything that we've seen over the past-several weeks. the big lie has taken hold. the desire to adhere to the big lie, not just by members of congress and by the former president, but by individual members of the republican party throughout the nation is -- is increasingly disturbing. that said, the fact remains that a significant, too many people, believe in the big lie. but not enough people, for the republican party to be successful in its new iteration. you put that poll up, just a few minutes ago, showing that 23% of republicans don't believe the big lie. and that's a big number. and that's a big number, because the republicans have very, very little margin for error. they haven't won. they have only won the popular vote in a presidential election, once, in the last-30 years. they lost the last -- trump lost the last presidential election by 7 -- 7 million votes.

he lost the house. he locst the senate. and it's just -- you know, they have very little margin for error. they need to hold -- they need to hold on to the voters who would, in a normal situation, want to vote for them. the people, who want lower taxes, who want certain kinds of judges. judges, who, by the way, voted, over overwhelmingly, last winter, to reject trump's ridiculous claims about voter fraud. you know, there needs to be a home for these people. and i think that's what -- that's what this new group is trying to do. i don't think i would characterize it so much as a thirty party, as a coalition. i don't think a third party really, necessarily, works in the kind of political system that we have. with single-member districts. but, you know, there is -- there -- there is a need for people who have a conservative-to-moderate point of view, and who believe in the rule of law. and they need a place to go and a place to -- where they can --

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>> this is the, i think, opening salvo, in that battle. >> she also had words for the leader of the house republicans, kevin mccarthy. >> i think that he is not leading, with principle, right now. >> well, far-right members of congress, also, had words for cheney. mocking her on social media after the vote this morning. congressman matt gaetz tweeted quote, liz cheney is the masthead for the establishment in washington, d.c. north carolina's madison cawthorne tweeted, good-bye, liz cheney. and colorado's lauren boebert tweeted, liz cheney is the gop of the past. we are not going back. joined now by chief-political correspondent, co-anchor of state of the union, dana bash. and john king. dana, where does liz cheney go, from here? i mean, she's not some moderate who is going to switch parties. she is a diehard conservative. more so than, you know, the person that's going to replace her. what happens to her? >> uh-huh. she is going to be out there, according to what she has said.

according to what people around her have said. trying to, from her perspective, save the republican party. and put it, back, where she believes it should be, as you said. somebody, who believes that it should be based in -- on conservative values. whether it's social conservativism. whether it is fiscal conservatism. or more specifically, as she s said in a number of statements now. conservative values that follow the basic rule of law. and that, really, is what she and the very-small band of supporters that she has in the house and elsewhere, scattered around the country in her party, believe. and, you know, it really is, you know, the question was, is it a battle for the soul of the republican party? the answer is, yes, it is. but it's even broader than that. it's a battle for democracy, because this is a country that really needs a viable, two-party system, at the very least, in order to work.

>> yeah. and, john, i mean, when kevin mccarthy says no one is questioning the legitimacy of the presidential election. i mean, does he have any priority, beyond keeping trump supporters happy so they will back him for speaker someday? isn't that -- i mean, i don't hear him coming up with a healthcare policy. >> he believes -- the republicans -- there are republicans who have policies. however, liz cheney is right that all those policy disagreements they would like to have with a new democratic president get overshadowed by this. with the white house behind him, he's done this in the united states capitol. now, with another temple of american democracy behind him. he lied again. he lied again. steps out of a meeting with the president of the united states. no one is talking about the legitimacy of the election. just here, anderson, i got four of them. four of them. i have ten of them on my desk. these are stamtds in the last couple weeks from donald j. trump questioning the legitimacy

of the election. this one is from two days ago, questioning the results in the state of michigan. a state, joe biden won by 154,000 votes. not only is he still questioning the election. listen to this. listen to this. all republicans must unify and not let this happen. if a thief robs a jewelry store of all its diamonds, he puts in parentheses, the 2020 presidential election. the diamonds must be restored -- returned. he doesn't just question the election. he still wants to be made president, if you read this statement. and kevin mccarthy says no one's talking about this. and kevin mccarthy is now supporting, because trump told him to, elise stefanik, for the number-three position. you pointed out earlier in the program, she still promotes the big lie. it's dangerous. we wish we could say it's a comic farce, it's an oversized toddler, who keeps saying things that are ridiculous. he is the former president of the united states and a leader of a party that is em bbracing

this lie. they took an oath to defend the constitution. they had the process, the rule of law, in all these court cases and they lost. they need to give it up but they won't. >> yeah. i mean, dana, it is against everything the republican party or conservatives, certainly, claim that they believed in. i mean -- i mean, forget about the whole-family-values thing, they used to run on before supporting the former president. but, you know, fiscal responsibility. you know, actual patriotism, support of troops and law enforcement. you know, foreign pol -- i mean, it is -- they're unrecognizable. >> they are, because it's not about policy, right now. it's about the cult of personality. and about lies. and the -- the way that -- that leader mccarthy and other-top republicans are trying to twist themselves into pretzels. is trying to argue, well, liz cheney needs to be gone from the leadership, because when she's there, she's talking about this too much. and therefore, that endangers our moderate-republicans or --

who are incumbents. or moderate-republican candidates who we think could be really well suited to beat democrats, in order to get the -- the house back. and it really hurts us. instead of saying, you know, no. she's just answering questions that are asked. and she is trying to stand by, you know, fundamentals, of -- again, of truth. so, that is, when you asked about whether or not it's power, the answer is yes. because they are looking at this, in a very specific, calculated way. about how to find the path, back, to the majority. and that path goes through and -- not around -- but through donald trump and how he reacts or acts vis-a-vis his candidates. >> john, is the path for them -- i mean, is the plan for the gop, basically, have the former president run, again? and, you know, pass as many

restrictive-voter laws, that there is not a lot of mail-in ballots. and -- and a repeat of how people were able to vote. which was a awesome turnout. both, for republicans and for democrats. >> there are many of these same republican, anderson, who would tell you privately, they hope trump goes away. that they see that he is not good for the party in the long run and they hope he either goes away or something happens that takes him off the battlefield in 2024. but this is about 2022. remember, nancy pelosi has a six-vote majority in the house of representatives. it is 50-50 in the united states senate. in his first midterm, barack obama lost 53 seats. in his first midterm, donald trump lost 40 seats in house of representatives. joe biden can only afford to use a handful. kevin mccarthy thinks if i break with trump now, there is too much dissonance in the party. i can't be speaker. if i stick with trump, maybe i can be speaker. then, i will worry about everything es. >> appreciate it. next. what a top-biden administration official is saying about the threat of domestic-extremist groups. as many republicans still try to turn history on its head in the aftermath of the capitol attack. wait...

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and to call it an insurrection, in my opinion, is a bold-faced lie. watching the tv footage of those who entered the capitol, and walked through statuary hall, showed people, in an orderly fashion, staying between the ropes, taking videos and pictures. you know, if you didn't know the tv footage was a video from january the 6th, you would actually think it was a normal-tourist visit. >> outright propaganda and lies are being used to unleash the national-security state against law-abiding u.s. citizens. especially, trump voters. as a result, the doj has harassing -- harassing peaceful patriots across the country. >> it was trump supporters, who lost their lives that day, not trump supporters who were taking the lives of others. >> when i see this sheet, on our timeline, and on the -- let's see -- okay -- at 2:07, a mob of trump supporters breached the steps. i don't know who did a poll, that it's trump supporters.

you had the media saying the same thing. just like you had the media saying officer sicknick was killed with a fire extinguisher, which he was not. but i don't know who did the poll to say that they had -- were trump supporters. >> rhetoric, like that, goes hand in hand with the rise in extremist groups across the country. and today, senior-biden administration officials told senators, when words turn to violence, the words of attorney general merrick garland, quote, those acts can be the most dangerous crimes we confront as a society. joined now by connecticut senator, chris murphy, who was at that senate hearing today. senator murphy, appreciate you being with us. you were obviously in the capitol january 6th. what do you say to your republican colleagues? we just played. who are -- it's not just continuing to try to rewrite history. but coming up with new ways to kind of rewrite the history of that awful day. >> yeah. i mean, listen. this is nuclear-grade bananas. i mean, the fact that they think they can rewrite the

absolutely-100% crystal-clear history of that day. remember, they came to the capitol with a very specific mission. they just weren't engaged in some general protest that went wrong. they came to the capitol, on the day of the certification of joe biden's win, to stop that certification. they were breaking into the capitol. looking for members of congress. going straight to the house and the senate chamber, in order to try to stop joe biden from becoming president. to try to frustrate that count from being completed so that they could keep donald trump in office just by the fact that he lost the election. they were carrying donald trump flags. they were chanting his name. they were following his instructions. and the fact that republicans have constructed this alternative reality in which they were just tourists taking a look at the pretty statues and portraits in the halls of the capitol, is just frightening. it's frightening. and what we know, from our

hearing today, is that, you know, that threat has not dissipated. that the primary threat to the security of the united states today and to the u.s. capitol remains these domestic-extremist groups. many of which, were, very much, part and parcel of the insurrection on january 6th. >> and, do you think your republican colleagues believe that domestic extremism is, actually, a concern? because again, if, you know, it's one thing if everybody has some sort of sense of -- of what the big threat is. but if half of the government doesn't believe it, that's worrying. >> yeah. listen. i worry that republicans are not taking this seriously. and i think, i have reason to worry. today, at our hearing in the senate, the ranking republican on our committee started his remarks, by trying to claim that the primary-security threat to the united states was the southern border. a fact, that is -- was contradicted by our witnesses

today. who explained how, you know, terrorist groups are not using the southern border to try to breach the united states's defenses. in fact, these terrorist groups have enough recruits coming from the ranks of american citizens to be able to present a serious-security threat. so, it's pretty clear that, republicans, right now, understand that the majority of their party believes donald trump's lie about the election. increasingly, believes this fiction about the nature of january 6th. and in order to retain power within their party, they have to fall in line, behind that lie. and they have to try to distract the american public to make them believe that the primary threat to the united states are immigrants. rather, than these domestic-terrorist groups. >> and the homeland security secretary, mayorkas, told congress the white supremacy extremists are quote the most persistent, lethal threat to the country. merrick garland said, quote, i have not seen a more dangerous threat to democracy than the

invasion of the capitol. the -- the republican senators. i mean, they're, obviously, seemed like, they are just refusing to believe this. what is to be done? i mean, do you feel like the arm of law enforcement, the department of justice, the fbi, are focused on this issue? >> well, they are. i mean, there's no doubt that law enforcement is focused on this issue. i guess, what really worries me is -- is -- is what would happen if republicans returned to power? what would happen if they won the white house, four years from now? or eight years from now? would they, essentially, neuter law enforcement and tell them to stand down against these domestic-extremist groups? these militias. what really worries me is not what is going to happen over the next-four years because joe biden's fbi and justice department is going to go after these extremists. what worries me is that, as this denial of reality. this, sort of, embrace, in some

ways, of domestic-terrorist groups occurs, within some elements of the republican party. it may, ultimately, affect the decisions that the next-republican president makes. just lastly, cnn's reporting the colonial pipeline, the pipeline that was shut down by a hack and has caused a run on gas and a spike in prices is looking like it will come back online, without having to pay the ransom. every time something like this happens, it's labeled, you know, a wake-up call. not much seems to change. what do you think it's going to take? and what lessons can we take from an attack, like -- like this? this -- this -- these ransomware attacks. >> well, listen. what we know is that, right now, we don't have enough fealty to best practices in the private sector. especially, in the energy sector. we -- i think the private industry has been resistant to enforceable-government standards, around cybersecurity. right now, the measures that they implement to protect themselves against random ransomware are voluntary. and clearly, not enough of these companies are taking it

seriously. second, these companies are not sharing enough data with the federal government. the federal government needs to collect all the information that exists about threats. so they can, then, try to pass along best practices to the industry. so, we have to have a lot more cooperation between the private sector and the public sector. and i think we have to, you know, take a look at, maybe, implementing an enforceable-national standard, especially for critical infrastructure, like -- like pipelines because the private sector doesn't seem to be doing enough, by themselves. >> yeah. senator chris murphy, appreciate it. thank you. >> thanks. got breaking news, next. as lines for gas grow in parts of the southeast, what cloin colonial pipeline is saying tonight about a restart. and new details about the ransom demand and an exchange for return to normalcy. that, when we return.

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hackers that caused the shutdown. cnn senior justice correspondent, everyonean perez more. >> they did, anderson. the group known as darkside, the cyberattackers, that were -- that were trying to hold ransom was demanding as much as $5 million. nearly-$5 million in bitcoin. cyber -- sorry, cryptocurrency, in order to unlock some of the data. now, the issue is that the company, with the help of some -- some cybersecurity professionals and the government, were able to get back some of that data before the hackers were able to lock it away. and it appears that the company won't have to pay the ransom, in order to reconstitute some of those computer systems. so again, it's still a work in progress but they were able to turn, back, on the pipeline, without paying the ransom. >> you are also learning about exactly why colonial decided to proactively shut down the

pipeline, upon learning about the attack. >> right. you know, initially, it seemed like this -- these -- the attackers, the hackers, were able to get to the systems that control the pipeline. but it turns out, what really happened according to sources we have talked to, is that the company was concerned that its billing systems, essentially, were compromised. that it would not be able to figure out how to get payment for the -- the fuel that it was sending to customers. they wouldn't be able to figure out how to get paid. so it was more a financial concerns, it appear -- it appears, than safety of the pipeline that prompted them to -- to -- to shut down the systems. now, we asked the company about this. they said, essentially, that, you know, this was an effort to try to contain the threat. and they took down everything, just to make sure that there was -- that they -- that they could contain the -- the cyberattack. but again, because of the way -- how this was done. you see, the -- the gas lines around the south and it's all because of the way the company handled the initial shutdown.

>> evan perez, appreciate the reporting. thanks very much of the. as i mentioned, growing lines for gas at some locations throughout the southeast. with stations saying they are flat-out of fuel. local officials are blaming panic buying with drivers worried about the pipeline cyberattack. gary tuchman has more. >> reporter: on an unseasonably cool day in georgia, an unreasonably long line to get gas. more than 100 cars lined to get to the 12 pumps at this costco gas station in sandy springs, georgia. but at least it's open. here in georgia, and in states including virginia, north carolina, south carolina, and florida, many cities saw more than 70% of their gas stations without gas. because of panic buying. gregory harris is driving his truck through georgia. >> everybody's in the -- we drive trucks. and our boss said we need to make sure we have half a tank. you know, so it's just credit right now, man. you just got to pray and just bring love, back. you know, it's just crazy out here right now, sir. >> reporter: and this from a gas-station employee in

charlotte, north carolina. >> it's like the coronavirus. you know how when they -- the coronavirus first hit, everybody started stocking up on toilet paper and paper towels? this is just like that. everybody's stocking up on gas. they don't know when they gonna get gas next time. >> reporter: images of people hoarding gas, rocketing around the internet. like, this from north carolina. prompting pleas from leaders like north carolina's attorney general who tweeted, in part, please, do not hoard. let's not have a run on gas like we did on toilet paper last year. and from industry experts. >> park your car. alleviate the situation. leave the fuel to those, that absolutely need it. >> reporter: but this gas customer in virginia is worried. >> i mean, it's a little scary that somebody can tap into our system. and kind of, cause this ripple effect. >> reporter: meanwhile, the prices of the gas are being pumped up. at some stations, like this one in virginia, to ridiculous amounts. compare this to one of the prices we saw exactly a year ago. near the beginning of the coronavirus pandemic. >> i had a half a tank of gas.

so when it got to $25, i started looking to see what was going on. and after i got to $38, i was like, oh, my god. >> reporter: prices are sky high. supplies at many stations in the southeast are exceedingly low. but countless motorists, like this woman in tallahassee, florida, have the same thing to say. >> you don't want to miss out. you don't want to be the one that doesn't get gas. >> and, gary, are motorists you talk to aware the pipeline is now starting to reopen? >> yeah. i have been telling people, anderson. they're happy to hear that but doesn't help people, very much, who are desperate for gas, tonight. who have nothing in their tanks. and something extraordinary is happening in a large metropolitan area. here in atlanta, georgia, i drove 25 miles a short time ago. past at least 20 gas stations. every single one of them shut down. i timely found this place in roswell, georgia, suburb of atlanta. there are only four pumps here and right now there is a line of at least 50 cars that goes down

this very busy street. this is a traffic lane. but not anymore. this is the lane to get gasoline. the manager at the gas station says he could run out of gas, at any time. these people will be quite angry, if they do run out of gas. so you can seet situation here, right now. one thing i want to mention to you, anderson. that costco gas station i talked to you about or talked about in the beginning of the story that had about a hundred cars waiting for 12 pumps. well, that shut down about two and a half hours ago. ran out of gas. anderson. >> gary, hope the folks behind you get their gas. thanks very much. appreciate it coming up, another major step in the effort to get people vaccinated. 12 to 15-year-olds are now eligible. talk to dr. sanjay gupta about it, next. the lexus is. all in on the sports sedan. lease the 2021 is 300 for $369 a month for 36 months. experience amazing, at your lexus dealer.

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another potential step towards normalcy. some states will offer the pfizer covid vaccine for 12 to 16 years old. they recommend two shots after an advisory board voted with one recusal in favor of expanding the vaccine. dr. sanjay gupta joins us with more. how did the cdc's advisory committee come to the conclusion and what are the implications? risk and benefits?

>> they looked at the data. there is trial data a few thousand children found there were no significant adverse events when people got this vaccine. nothing like the anaphylactic we heard with the adults. very safe and effective. in the placebo group, 18 people got sick, severely ill, nobody in the vaccinated group. there is benefit, as well. one thing to point out is i want to show you this graphic. you remember h1n1 in 2009 to give context here. that was a virus that primarily affected younger people. so yellow is covid, blue is h1n1 back from 2009. take a look. the point here is that hospitalizations from covid even among this age group are greater than they were with h1n1, which was something that of obviously we took seriously. you had it. >> i did, too. >> we were with the marines in

afghanistan. last week the cdc warned that childhood vaccinations for other infectious diseases plunged since the start of the pandemic for the first time today, an expert from the cdc said it's okay to receive more than one vaccine at once. is that a big deal? will that help parents, the idea you can give multiple vaccines at once? >> yeah, i think so. this is an interesting point. at the beginning of the vaccine rollout, the general guidance was wait at least 14 days until you get another kind of vaccine, we don't know what the adverse effects will be. take a look at what has happened over a year. we've seen drops in all sorts of different vaccination rates among young people. tetanus, diphtheria, pertussis, down 19%. hvp, meningococcal. that's a problem, these are preventible diseases. 12 to 15 year olds are going to be going in to get their shot. if they qualify for one of these vaccines at the same time, they can get it at the same time since they're going to be at the

doctor's anyway. >> some adults have had side effects after being vaccinated, is there any reason to believe kids in this age group won't experience the same? >> no, i think you have to anticipate there will be a lot of the same sorts of side effects among the 12 to 15-year-olds as you saw among adults. we could show you. they broke this down to show what percentage of kids got the various side effects. oftentimes it was greater among the 12 to 15-year-olds versus the 16-plus. soreness, for example, occurred in 91% of 12 to 15-year-olds. i think closer to 70% of 16 plus year olds. here's the way to think about it. the stronger your immune system, probably the more significant side effects. you are stimulating the immune system. older people, anderson, for example, tended to have fewer side effects. 12 to 15-year-olds, slightly more than 16 plus year olds.

>> one of the points made during the call with the advisory committee today, they don't fully know the development of mental health impacts this past year has had on kids. i'm wondering your take on that. is it just a question of it hasn't been studied enough? i think people can -- families can kind of see what kind of an impact it's had. >> yeah, that was quite striking. about half of -- in the surveys, half of parents say their children's mental health is worse now than at the beginning of the pandemic. kids who were in virtual school, solely in virtual school, tended to have even worse outcomes than those who had either hybrid or in-person learning. it's affected everybody. the answer to your question is yes, we don't know what the long-term impact of this is, how long it's going to last. there's not a lot of precedent. i think it's another reason the vaccine is a benefit. the physical benefit, i think opening doors for kids to be able to do things again, i think it will have a mental health benefit as well. coming up, cnn's jake tapper on a new political thriller involving frank sinatra and john f. kennedy.

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it's got bobby kennedy, frank sinatra, sammy davis jr., a fascinating period in american history in the 1960s. your last book was in the '50s with the same setup, the same characters. the martyrs. extreme how you decided to move it into the 1960s and the plot is really intricate and interesting. >> well, it's based on and inspired by a real story, which as soon as i heard the story, as soon as i read it, i thought, oh, this has to be the second book. which is obviously sinatra and the rat pack did everything they could to help get jfk elected in 1960. and in preparation for a presidential trip to california, sinatra, in real life, had his rancho mirage estate, the compound, built up and -- in preparation for a presidential visit. rooms added, telephone lines, a helipad built. at the same time, attorney general robert kennedy had real misgivings, because he was going after organized crime.