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explanation what these objects could be or where they came from. the pentagon, though, has confirmed some witness accounts. one pilot said he is worried and considers whatever he saw a security threat. this has got to the point that the government is expected to release a report about ufos in june, no idea how detailed it will actually be. thanks for joining us. anderson starts now. good evening tonight republicans who say they've had enough, the big lie about the 2020 election. there is one catch, they're not the republicans that can do much other than speak out because the big lie is coming from the very top of the party and we'll discuss being embedded by gop lawmakers in power. this said, these particular republicans, officials in maricopa county have two things in their favor. they have the facts in this case about the election now that the former president has been trying to discredit as a partisan bump of so-called cyber ninjas combed
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the ballots for ig rerregularit again and again. they have the facts for that and are angry. this is republican maricopa county recorder that heads up the county elections department. >> i've been accused of inserting page fake ballots fro south korean claim and indulged by the senate majority whip and been accused of deleting databases even though transferred and seen them with my own eyes and even though i still have access to the current fully functional voting database. it is enough. i didn't want to get involved. i wanted to sit quietly on the sidelines, but it is enough. i am now the leader of an office of 160 full-time employees and i am tired of hearing them defamed and ridiculed. they are good people. they are hard working people. they are people of integrity. they are my friends. >> republicans sick of the big
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lie a lot like the georgia election officials also republicans sick of the big lie that spoke out repeatedly against the defeated president's attempt to overturn their results. and georgia's republican lieutenant governor jeff duncan that announced he won't be seeking a second term. he says phony conspiracy theories dealt lasting damage to his party and fueled the single worst attack by americans since the civil war sometime this week wednesday we think house lawmakers could vote on legislation setting up a non-partisan commission to investigate what happened that day and what led up to it. as of tonight, looks like a hand full of republicans are getting behind it. the republican leader that supports a 9/11 panel liz cheney has been purged and elise stefanik is pushing the big lie and house minority leader kevin mccarthy who once very briefly spoke the truth about the attack called out the former president's role in it. he is now dragging his feet
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possibly because when it comes to telling the truth and going against the man in mar-a-lago once is enough for him. a reminder, he does know how to speak truth to power when he wants. >> the president bears responsibility for wednesday's attack on congress by mob rioters. he should have immediately denounced the mob when he saw what was unfolding. >> now he says maybe not. that was his assessment a week after the attack. a week later, he began unsaying what he said. he subsequently traveled to mar-a-lago to kiss the ring and ever since been dragging his feet on the 9/11 style commission unless it looks into unrelated issues like antifa and black lives matter demonstrations. kevin mccarthy spoke with the former president during the attack and when asked for help the former president said well kevin, i guess these people are more upset about the election than you are. according to republican lawmaker familiar with the call leader
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mcelderryccarthy said they aske who the f are you talking to? >> i was the first person to contact him when the riots were going on and he didn't see it. he ended the call telling me he'll put something out to make sure he'll stop this and this is what he did. he put a video out later. >> quite a lot later and quite a weak video. >> weak, indeed. the 9/11 style commission could mean he'd be called on to testify perhaps under oath, something congresswoman cheney was happy to talk about on friday, the day her replacement was named. the interview aired yesterday. >> should kevin mccarthy be willing to speak, testify before that commission after all he's one of the few people we know of that was actually talking to donald trump while the attack was taking place. >> he absolutely should and i wouldn't be surprised if he were subpoenaed. i think that he very clearly and said publicly that he's got
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information about the president's state of mind that day. >> and perhaps he might become pelled to say the for the record. james clyburn. why do you think it is kevin mccarthy pushed back on democrats advocating for broadening the scope of the commission? i mean, some critics said he wants to muddy the waters and avoid testifying about his conversations with the then president. >> i have no idea what his reasons are. i do know that this is about january 6th, has absolutely nothing to do with what may have happened someplace else in the world prior to or even after. we are all about what it takes to secure this cab pitol. we're about finding out what led to this insurrection and what we can do to prevent it from ever
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happening again. >> james clyburn and having heard at the top from maricopa county recorder, we're joined by another official, the sheriff he is a democrat. sheriff, you said this so-called audit is forcing you and other county officials to waste time, resources and energy on political theater and those who wish to see our nation destroyed celebrate the division. does this exercise have any credibility in your view? >> well, if it does it's getting lost in a lot of the theater because at this point, what we see is such an extreme provision that we're hurting ourselves if there is la egitimacy at the audit, once you start bringing law enforcement and the equipment when it comes to technology and protection as well as transportation or aspects we're drawing it away from our community.
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>> one of the issues with this so-called audit is there is no guarantee any results that this group announces will be legitimate. there is nothing to say -- there is no standard procedures that they are known to be following and not only all sorts of conspiracy theories but the people behind the audit are demanding access to computer routers and passwords. >> there is misinformation. as a county we have many entities and whether the recorders office, the jails. our i.t. infrastructure has a common area where we share information and although this office is siloed officeenforcem turn the routers over you're turning over the i.t. structure. in the hands of the wrong people it puts them in our doorstep and a talented hacker can breach
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into our i.t. system and either do damage or draw it out for their needs but as we've seen with law enforcement agencies that have been breached and an oil distributor, it is far too dangerous and could jeopardize the safety of deputies but could jeopardize the safety of our community and provide information critical to our ability to function. i put my foot in the cement and said i'm not moving on this. you're not getting our equipment. we have nothing to do with the audit. we're a law enforce ce thement . i would stay on the sidelines and focus on public safety but now i have an obligation to protect our agency. >> the republican president of the arizona state senate karen fan as you know she's accused the maricopa county board of supervisors of non-compliance with legislative subpoenas that. i'm wondering what you have to
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say to that and do you intent to confront republican leaders tomorrow? she's issued an invitation to appear before the hearing? >> no, that's political theater arena. we're serious. i give credit to my colleagues and if you look, when i made a commitment to make this office with anyone with familiarity to it, it was very politically involved historically. politics and public safety to keep us on our mission where politics has no place in our efforts. my colleagues, majority of whom are elected republicans ensure our elections process in our system is protected, that it is fair and just. to include audits and other processes. when i look what they have done and how committed they are to protect the information and process and people, we're not going to get caught up in things that are motivated through
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partisan efforts. if there is legitimate information that rises to the level where you believe there is a potential crime committed as it relates to a fed eloqeral election, that falls into the hands of law enforcement, not political hackers that you contracted with to be part of this process. if there is a potential crime committed, show the evidence and move far orward. >> appreciate your time. matt gaetz and his former friend pled guilty to half a dozen charges and cut a deal with the feds and with states dropping mask mandates, the question is the moment we've all been waiting for coming too soon? we'll talk to one expert and new reporting you never expect to see after decades of public denial, when it comes to ufos there is something out there. cal: we've saved our money, and now we get to spend it our way. val: but we worry if we have enough to last.
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congressman matt gaetz cannot be breathing easy tonight. he's got to worry what his wing man might be telling the feds including knowingly solicited and paid a minor for sex. what this could mean for the congressman from randi kaye. >> reporter: these courtroom sketches capture joel greenberg dressed in a dark jump suit and his hands shackled in front of him. greenberg is a former tax collector once an ally of matt gaetz. that friendship may explain this banner someone was flying overhead during court. it reads tiktok matt gaetz. the florida congressman could find himself in hot water given greenberg's admission in water he knowingly solicited and paid for sex with a minor and others did, too. >> mr. greenberg has pled guilty
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pursuant to a plea agreement with certain requirements and obligations to them and he intends to honor that. >> reporter: honoring that 86-page plea agreement means greenberg could be called on to testify against others and provide information against co-conspirators that may include matt gaetz. the florida congressman wasn't named in the plea agreement or court but investors are still trying to determine if gaetz is involved in sex trafficking, prostitution or sex with a minor. gaetz has denied any wrongdoing and not charged with a crime. >> does my client have information that could hurt an elected official? i guess this is just must-see television. you'll have to wait and see. >> reporter: in the plea agreement and this is key, greenberg admits he introduced that same minor he was sexually involved with to others who also had sex with her, question is
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who are those other men and will greenberg name them in the hopes of getting a lesser sentence? as part of his plea, he agreed to provide substantial assistance. that may be why the department of justice cut a deal with him allowing greenberg to plead guilty to six federal charges instead of the 33 counts he was facing. >> i think he's feeling a sense of acceptance and remorse. >> reporter: at a republican event over the weekend, gaetz played down the allegations. >> i'm falsely accused of exchanging money for naughty favorers. >> reporter: naughty favors or something more, that may come down to what joel greenberg shares with investigators. >> given greenberg's he's his -- history, he's not a credible witness. >> reporter: he has a credibility issue.
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he admitted to falsely accusing a teacher of having sex with a teacher in 2019, spreading rumors that teacher raped that student. that teacher was a political opponent of his so that explains why he was making false accusations. that wasn't true. he now has this on his resume if you will. he has the false accusations, the history of sex trafficking, the history of sex with a minor. a real credibility issue that will come to light if he does move forward and cooperate in this case. >> appreciate it. thanks. joining us is former federal prosecutor also cnn political commentator amanda carpenter. gaetz wasn't named but how worried should he be right now? >> anderson, anyway you cut this, all the prognosis for matt gaetz are grim right now. there is just no way around it. i keep going back to my own experience as a federal prosecutor. when i was a supervisor, if
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somebody had come to me saying we have this guy joel greenberg involved in sex trafficking of a minor but i want to cooperate him, i'd say you better have rock solid proof to back it up and very important, very worthy targets that we are confident we're going to charge before we cooperate a heinous person who committed heinous crimes like joel greenberg. so if these prosecutors are operating with any competency whatsoever they only entered into this deal because they intend to make big charges against important people. >> given the charges against greenberg, he certainly seems to be very high on the sleaze spectrum in terms of his credibility, that's something prosecutors are certainly aware he lacks credibility. they must be confident in something evidence he actually has. i mean, i would imagine they would have taken in his sleaziness into account. >> yeah, anderson, even in the world of cooperating witnesses
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who all by definition are convicted felons, joel greenberg is about as bad as horrible as it gets and that's why i think we saw this 86-page plea document that randi talked about. that's a very unusual document. i never put anywhere near that level of detail into cooperator papers. i used to try to put as little detail as possible because you don't want to tip anyone off. i think what prosecutors told us with the document is we have the goods that back up joel greenberg and we saw countless references in the document to specific texts, financial records, bank records, hotel records because that's going to be the core of their case, not joel greenberg himself. >> amanda, congressman gaetz denied any wrongdoing. that's important to point out. does the republican party, how do they navigate this? so far it seems people are saying i don't know anything about it. >> i think for republicans in washington, they wouldn't take any kind of action until charges are filed and at that point you
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might see him suspended from a coal come committee assignment. he would be allowed to go to trial and be a congressman. what is interesting to me to watch is how he's going on tour with this america first rally, you know, florida, ohio, arizona next week and he's sort of using his support for trump as political cover. he's going on tour with marjorie taylor greene and it's amazing to watch and speaks to the brain drain within the republican party because for every, say, liz cheney ors cindy mccain or mitt romney that can't go on with trump as leader of the republican party, the more deden pen -- dependent they become because they perceive those figures of having a strong connection with the trump voter they can't afford to lose so by going on tour and building up
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support with the trump base, it sort of makes them invincible in washington for criticism. >> ielliott, greenberg pled guilty to six charges instaead f the 33 he's facing. one is he knowingly solicited and paid a minor for sex. how significant is that in terms of his credibility? was he being overcharged as to p punish him? >> no, i think it was a tactical mistake to let him plead out because if and when the day joel greenberg testifies against somebody, they could say look at this sweet heart deal you got. you were charged with 33 counts and dropped 27 of them. that will resonate with the jury. i think the better practice and practice i was always raised with at the justice department is make them eat the sheet, meaning plead to the entire indictment so when you put him on the stand, he's an open book and accepted responsibility for everything he's done. i think that was a tactical
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misstep by prosecutors. >> so fascinating to me, amanda, i don't know how false nating b -- fascinating but the way things are handled. there used to be a sense of shame and maybe somebody accused of these might lie low or have humility about them. this is sort of taking it, you know, the former president's playbook and yeah, let's use these allegations to launch a national tour and try to, you know, raise my profile, make myself a defender of the former president so i'm being prosecuted and persecuted and see how much money i can rake in in the meantime. >> yeah, certainly. i mean, that's part of the pitch. he's the victim here. he's being cancelled and uses that to build a grievance based credibility with the trump base. what is sort of amazing for me to watch is how little the democrats want to attack matt gaetz on these grounds and i understand the justice system is going to take its course but the course ethics
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investigating this. they will look at the sexual misconduct and allegations of drug use and sharing and nude photos on the house floor that's been reported so even if somehow he escapes criminal repercussions, he has to deal with that and i'm surprised how democrats are been hesitant to talk about it. >> good news in the war against covid, one state hardest hit is lifting its mask mandate but dr. lina nguyen says why president biden needs to clean it up next. plus, who is out there or what? for years the pentagon has largely ignored reports of ufos, now it seems like they may be beginning to change their tune. ♪ maybe i didn't love you ♪ ( ♪ ) ♪ quite as often as i could have ♪ we're delivering for the earth. by investing in more electric vehicles,
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breaking news tonight, new york is on a growing state started wednesday fully vaccinated new yorkers will not be required to wear masks or social distance and washington d.c. made it effective today. new jersey is only allowing no masks outdoors. they are still needed indoors. mass achusetts is dropping the mandate may 29th and california will next month. there is a lot of confusion with others praising it and some questioning it. medical analysts dr. lina nguyen is not a supporter of the move and said this relaxation is premature could lead to a
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resurgence of infections and adds this is a major blunder to set back progress made but president biden needs to fix it you ar urgently. dr. nguyen joins me now. fix it how? >> we have to recognize the problem that the cdc got the science correct but they got the policy and the communication really wrong. i think that they were trying to give essentially individual level guidance as if they were a doctor. i think it appropriate for a doctor to tell the patient once fully vaccinated you're well protected from getting covid-19 but that's very different than saying that to the country because it was understood as community or societals level guidance which is the reason we've seen mask mandates just being dropped across the country. the biden administration is early to ring in the bell and they can encourage certain locals and businesses that would
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continue to have mask mandates in place and work on vaccine verification. that's what is needed in a lot of places with high levels of community transmission to help keep customers, students, employees and other people safe. >> so when you talk about vaccine verification, it doesn't seem like there is an ap title for that in the biden administration. >> yeah, i think they have been very queazy about this concept and in someways i understand why but i also think we need to frame it differently. this whole concept of a vaccine passport seems to signify some kind of national i.d. but i think we should be thinking about this more like a easy pass or a tsa precheck that maybe for everybody else they have the symptom check, maybe they also have testing but if you then have proof of vaccination, you're able to skip these steps. so i think a lot of businesses are really asking for this and now is the opportunity for the biden administration that's already been working on helping businesses to develop some kind of vaccine requirement for the biden administration to release
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what it is they were working on. >> the problem with verification system is, you know, then it, what, up to businesses to police that at their doors asking for verification. it just seems like that seems like a difficult thing. i can see big companies, you know, deciding a big office, deciding everybody has to be vaccinated but stores and such it seems difficult. >> that approach is different if you're a university or individual employer, you can ask for your students or employees to have proof of vaccination. stores, i'm a costco member and every time i go in costco they check to see i have an i.d. so it is something we do on a regular basis, but i think at the end of the day, we have to think why it is we're doing it. we're doing this to protect those unvaccinated. right now only 37% of the country is fully vaccinated. the percentage of african-americans, latino americans vaccinated is much
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lower than that. certain communities are well below 37%. we have to consider our obligation to protect the most vulnerable. some of whom cannot yet be vaccinated like children and why are policies right now don't reflect that. >> yeah, i mean, for families with kids, obviously, there is certainly concern given that kids, you know, under a certain age can't be vaccinated. we're seeing a lot of states lifting mandates and retailers lifting them. all met trrics are down and peo are feeling good where we are. is that wrong? you were saying people shouldn't? >> i think there are certain communities where the vaccination rate is really high. that actually and might have been time in those places to lift mask mandates but there are others not there yet and we are potentially endangering individuals like young children or people who are immune sup pressed and feel like they can't go to the store because things that were lower risk have become
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higher risk if they're going to be surrounded by unvaccinated, unmasked people who think the pandemic is over, it's more risky for individuals who are not vaccinated or for immune suppressed and have a situation of potentially increasing hot spots places with low vaccination rates where we could end up having surges as a result of this and i just wish the cdc consulted anybody from a local or state government, mayor, health official, even business owners who could have told them about the unintended consequence because ultimately, what was the rush here? why was there such a rush to get out this guidance when even a week or two of thoughtful deliberation could have pre prevented it. >> should new york lift its guidance, lift it mandate? >> look, i would prefer that people tied that governors and mayors tied the lifting to certain numbers. for example in maryland where i live, the governor had previously said that once we get to 70% of adults getting a first
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dose that mask mandates could be lifted at that point. the governor hogan rolled back this guidance because the cdc and now there are no more mask mandates in maryland, certain jurisdictions don't have it and my point is having numbers tied to this makes a lot more sense when our country is not 70% fully vaccinated and tailoring your recommendations to each community is really key. >> appreciate it. thanks. live report from the middle east on the violence and white house and what president biden is saying about it, as well as questions whether he could be doing more ahead. ♪eh uh, eh uh♪ ♪flow (oh my gosh)♪ ♪where man go (oh my gosh)♪ ♪if a man see me (oh my gosh)♪ ♪i guess you never know what you got 'til it's♪ ♪flow (oh my gosh)♪ ♪where man go (oh my gosh)♪ ♪if a man see me (oh my gosh)♪ ♪i guess you never know what you got 'til it's♪ ♪eh uh, eh uh eh uh, eh uh eh uh, eh uh eh uh♪
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the worst fight in years rages on. hamas is firing with rockets at israel and the death toll is climbing. hamas says 212 palestinians have been killed and at least ten people have been killed in israel. in a moment, white house reaction to israel's strike on a building that destroyed the offices for the associated press and al jazeera. agents of hamas also operated from that building. first, the latest on the violence from ben wedeman in jerusalem. >> reporter: rescuers pull 6-year-old susie from the rubble of her home in gaza city. she was trap there had for seven
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hours. suzy's mother two sisters and d two brothers were killed in an israeli air strike on sunday. the last i saw of my wife says her father, she had thrown herself on the floor and concrete fell on her head. the high tech meat grinder that is 21st century warfare is turning parts of this crowded strip of land on the mediterranean into a lunar landscape of jagged concrete and twisted metal, the death toll exceeds 200 according to the hamas run gaza ministry of health. three years ago a senior u.n. official said the residence of gaza are in his words caged in a toxic slum from birth to death. the palestinian situation is devastated and in crisis since 15 years. now that crisis is worse and
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suffering has increased says gaza resident imed. the power grid was already barely functioning before the hostilities. what little fuel that was coming from israel has now stopped. the gaza power company warns the strip could go completely dark within two days. israeli air strikes and hamas mi missile barrages continue. in parts of israel, sirens wailed monday to warn of incoming rockets from gaza. people including a cnn team fleeing to shelter for safety. the israeli military says at least one residential building was hit. it came after hamas launched hundreds of rockets towards israel over the weekend. one squarely striking a synagogue in the city according
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to the military, at least t ten israelis died from the dome of defense enabling most to take cover. >> we'll do whatever restore order and quiet. >> reporter: three times in the past 13 years and now once more, the low intensity conflict between the militant and israel has erupted into fuel scale. with the same result and soon into ruin. the last calm with the store. >> ben wedeman joins us. a strike being called tuesday. what more do you know about
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that? >> reporter: these are p palestinian political factions in the west bang and ra louis l -- ja raerusalem and there is high probability we'll see the unrest we saw last week across the region, across the west bank. jerusalem and inside israel something that particularly this violence within israel has israeli officials increasingly concerned. anderson? >> ben wedeman, appreciate it. thank you. more on the strike and a buildingassociated press. it contain the military assets, a claim hamas denied. kaitlan collins joins us with more. what's the white house saying or perhaps more importantly not saying at this point? >> reporter: the prime minister
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says he shared intelligence that hamas was operating out of this building that housed the news outlets, that's why they had the air strike that crumbled the building over the weekend but the white house is caged about this intelligence. they aren't saying they received it. that's a big sharing relationship that happens but what they're not saying is who has actually viewed it and whether or not they find it credible because you saw the secretary of state tony blinken this morning saying that he h himself did not receive this information but requested more details on the justification behind the strike but today the briefing, they would not say whether or not president biden himself has viewed it and the white house said they're not going to. they didn't want to get into those intelligence channels they said and so i think it's a big part of just that but also really anderson, it speaks to how delicate the white house is viewing these negotiations and these talks going back and forth with the israelis with the palestinians over what the white house wants to say and not say when it comes to intelligence sharing and whether or not
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they're going t ging to actuall ultimately have the u.s. call for a seize fire. >> the biden administration notified congress they approved a sale earlier this month before the violence broke out. is there any sense how this is playing among some of president biden's own party? >> reporter: this is exposing riffs among the democratic party because you see congressional house members saying they want biden to be tougher and take a different stance and senator bernie sanders saying they should reevaluate the aid and armed sales that go to israel and talking about what that looks like. i think what we should know at the end of the day is president biden is in politics for a long time. he's had long-standing support for israel and basically every statement we get from the white house from biden or his top aides, they say israel has a right to defend itself so that gives you a good indication where his head is at on this but when it comes to the arms sale, this is a bigger part of arm sales that happen. you're seeing democrats like
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omar saying it would be appalling if this saell went forward. we expect that to happen. the broader conversation and how you're seeing democrats, more progressive democrats respond to this and respond to the why the white house is handling it certainly is revealing of the politics that play here even within the democratic party. >> kaitlan collins, appreciate it. just ahead a second white house official struck by a mystery illness that now evaded easy answers for years, details on the latest known incident called the havana syndrome and sightings of unidentified objects by a navy pilot. what they saw and why there is no aerial craft they've ever witnessed. their stories when we come back. keeps me moving forward. they guide me with achievable steps that give me confidence. this is my granddaughter...she's cute like her grandpa. voya doesn't just help me get to retirement... ...they're with me all the way through it. voya. be confident to and through retirement.
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sources tell cnn a mysterious syndrome that mostly affected american diplomats and others oversea struck another person. both incidents involve an individual on the national security council. this time, the symptoms were more serious, caused the official to seek immediate medical treatment.
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what more do we know about these incidents? >> these incidents are concerning on a number of levels. first and foremost, these were two officials from the national security council. some of the top national security advisers to the president of the united states. and they were struck with these illnesses, literally just feet away from the white house. one was at an entrance near the ellipse on the southern part of the white house, southern grounds of the white house. the other was another entrance on or near the white house grounds. this was very close to the white house. these incidents occurred last november. one of them was right after election day. the other was a little later. as you mentioned, one of those officials required immediate medical attention. the other one had some headaches and some sleepless nights, but again, the fact that these struck so close to the white house, we spoke to a former secret service agent, who said this really is a signal by whoever may have been responsible for this that they can strike close to the white house. and that is what is indeed so ominous. we can't call this an attack just yet, but sources are telling us this is very
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consistent with some of the attacks that did occur against u.s. diplomats and intelligence personnel in places like moscow, china, havana, cuba, that have been going on for the last five years. in those attacks, these were microwave type direct signals, directed at these people, and in many cases they got symptoms like vertigo, nausea, dizziness, things like that. pounding headaches. and so these are debilitating attacks in some cases and the fact this struck so close to the white house, that makes this even more ominous tonight. >> is there any idea of who is behind it? >> well, u.s. -- current and former u.s. officials have told us that it could be russia. it could be china, but that is largely circumstantial at that point. russian, china, and cuban officials have steadfastly denied they have anything to do with these attacks but we're told by experts and according to some intelligence documents that cnn has obtained that russia has been developing these microwave
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type weapons for many, many years now. so a lot of the signals do point toward russia, but again, moscow has vehemently denied any part of this. >> now to a mystery in the skies. navy pilots speaking out for the first time about the unidentified flying objects they have witnessed and defy easy explanation. oren liebermann has the story. >> an object skimming the surface, apparently at high speed. when? bulls eye, the aircraft sensors home in on the thing, the unidentified flying object. it's one of a few videos of these ufos the pentagon confirmed at authentic. >> i think over the years we have said, hey, man, if i saw this solo, i don't know that i would have come back and said anything because it sounds so crazy. your mind tries to make sense of it. i'm going to categorize this as maybe a helicopter or maybe a
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drone. and when it disappeared, it was just -- >> alex dietrick has never told her story publicly. she's one of several navy pilots who spoke with 60 minutes who have seen or picked up on sensors similar objects often moving fast with odd shapes and no obvious method of propulsion. >> there's definitely something that, i don't know who's building it, who has the technology, the brains, but there's something out there that was better than our airplane. >> no one is using the word aliens here. the pentagon calls them uaps, unidentified aerial phenomena. >> there's a whole fleet of them. >> my gosh. they're all going against the wind. the wind is 120 miles to the pest. >> pilot ryan graves picked this up on his infrared sensor on 2004 off the coast of san diego. >> the highest probability is it's a threat observation program. >> could it be russian or
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chinese technology? >> i don't see why not. >> late last year, the pentagon created a task force to look at the nature and origin of uaps. what are these things, where do they come from, and is there an intent here? the government sees this as a possible threat, something that may be able to outperform military capabilities. lawmakers are demanding it be treated seriously. >> we have things flying over our military bases and places where we're conducting military exercises, and we don't know what it is, and it isn't ours. so that's a question to ask, if it's something outside this planet, that might be better than the fact we have seen some technological leap on behalf of the chinese or russians. >> next month, the director of national intelligence and defense secretary are set to deliver an unclassified report on uaps to congress. james clapper applauds the transparency, but isn't expecting too much yet. >> i expect this report will be
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filled with ambiguity as well, and people depending on their leanings, will extract what they want out of this report. >> for years, the government and the military downplayed or largely ignored reports of ufos. now, that handling is under investigation. the dod inspector general announcing earljure this month that the pentagon's handling of ufos is part of its own investigation. anderson. >> thanks very much. still to come, an update in the case of the former minneapolis police officer charged in the shooting death of 20-year-old daunte wright. details when we come back.
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minnesota judge ruled today the case against the former police officer charged in the shooting death in april of 20-year-old black motorist daunte wright can proceed. the incident occurs after a routine traffic stop outside minneapolis was captured on police body cam. as always, want to warn you what you're about to see is difficult to watch. [ bleep ] >> i just shot him. >> the shooting and demonstrations that followed occurred about ten miles from the courtroom where the officer who killed george floyd was convicted. kim potter has quit the police force. she and the department say she mistook her taser. on saturday, the city council
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passed sweeping new police reforms in the wake of the killing. a lawyer representing daunte wright's family says they have received death threats and r racist calls since the killing. want to hand it over to chris. >> thank you very much. happy monday. i'm chris cuomo. welcome to "prime time." when it comes to our politics, there is a game afoot, and here we expose it for you. caught on tape tonight. we're going to she you just how ugly the game has gotten. when you look at the effort to suppress the vote. now, look, it takes a lot of money to push bills and gain traction on the grassroots level. especially when you're playing with deception. and one of the big players behind the scenes has been caught celebrating the suppr suppression. my team has independently obtained the video first reported by mother jones this weekend. i need you to watch it. as the head of a major dark money group, remember, the
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