killing. a lawyer representing daunte wright's family says they have received death threats and r racist calls since the killing. want to hand it over to chris. >> thank you very much. happy monday. i'm chris cuomo. welcome to "prime time." when it comes to our politics, there is a game afoot, and here we expose it for you. caught on tape tonight. we're going to she you just how ugly the game has gotten. when you look at the effort to suppress the vote. now, look, it takes a lot of money to push bills and gain traction on the grassroots level. especially when you're playing with deception. and one of the big players behind the scenes has been caught celebrating the suppr suppression. my team has independently obtained the video first reported by mother jones this weekend. i need you to watch it. as the head of a major dark money group, remember, the problem in politics isn't

illegal money, it's the legal money. this head of this dark money group brags about ghost writing many of the bills clearing gop state houses across the nation. >> iowa was the first state we got to work in. we did it quickly and quietly. honestly, nobody noticed. then we turned to georgia. i was able to sit down with governor kemp three days before he signed the election package in georgia. i had one message for him. do not wait to sign that bill. if you wait even an hour, you will look weak. the same message we're giving governor ducy in arizona, the governor of texas, governor desantis in florida as well. we're working with these state legislators to make sure they have all the information they need to draft the bills, in some cases we draft them for them, or we have a sentinel on our behalf give them the model legislation so it has that grassroots, you know, from the bottom up type of vibe, and we're going to take

the fierce fire that is in every single one of our bellies to right the wrongs of november. >> i want you to remember the word sentinel and the phrase, you know, they pass it along so it has that grassroots vibe. this is the game. now look, we reached out to heritage about the video and the claims. here's their response. heritage action is proud of our work to make it easier to vote and harder to cheat. that work begins at the state level through our grassroots and continues through state legislatures across the country. left-wing media, that's us, who want to spin up panic and paranoia instead of focusing on real efforts to save our elections should be ignored. here's the problem. they're right about how it works. money matters. and this is the intelligence of money in politics. they have ideas they want to get across. the platitudes are easy. the policy is hard. what does that mean?

well, we want to make it hard to cheat. no, you want to cheat. you want to limit how many people can vote. for minorities groups and big urban areas and those local officials you want cut out of the process. that's what you want. because that is the far right sale of white fright. these suppression advocates organize and then weaponize, many selling white fright and false notions that the election was stolen by big groups. who is she talking about cheating? who is cheating? you see what i'm saying? you have to look at the premise. who was cheating? now, that's going to matter here. in just a moment, minority areas and local officials there, that's who they're talking about. we reached out to every state mentioned. none has responded to us directly. the iowa governor's office referred us to a des moines register office where they denied heritage had anything to

do with it. the georgia state gop, the leader there, is also denying heritage help, according to georgia public broadcasting. and a spokesperson for florida governor ron desantis sent a link to the heritage website which features their views on election fraud and told us this is not heritage writing the bill. they're all playing the game. they don't want to comment on the video itself. because it's ugly and obvious. just like these efforts. the heritage boss mentioned using a sentinel. what is that? i mean, the word comes from a soldier, but what they really mean is a strongman. they mean someone who is a proxy, right? because that's what they want, is something to offer up their ideas who seems more legit than they would. that's the game. dark money, funding efforts to do dark things. like bs voting bills and like what's happening in arizona right now, the so-called

fraudit, play on audit and fraud. as obvious as the situation itself. the latest lie from the fraud father, trump, did you know a key arizona county's database was somehow deleted? lie. how do we know? the republican who serves as county recorder, who could see the database while he tweeted as readily falsifiable as two plus two equals five. and he's not just debunking the insanity spewing out of mar-a-lago, but co-conspirators on the home front like the gop senate leading this fugazy front. listen. >> we all have our limits. i have been accused of shredding ballots, tabulating an election i didn't run, run by my predecessor. have been accused of insrerting ballots. the claims have even been

indulged by the senate majority whip. >> this board is done explaining anything to this people who are playing investigator with our constituents' ballots and equipment paid for with real people's tax dollars. >> it's a waste of money, but there's another threat here. that last guy heads the maricopa county board of supervisors. nearly all of them are republicans. okay. they're pushing back on the big lie. now, burning the valley of the sun. why? because they're responsible. see, that's the limitation of the big lie in many of these states. they're republican run. so while, yes, the party of trump is in full effect on the national level, on the state level, well, they don't want to swallow the big lie when it means they were the ones rigging the election. right? if you're going to have to be the one who framed it, it doesn't sound as great to you, does it? that's why you just saw these two guys. it wasn't me, the guy before me. don't accuse me of these lies. the head of the board, you keep

saying we did everything wrong. it's about them, you see the the democratic secretary of state katie hobbs joins the republicans in their scrutiny of this and joins us now. good to have you. >> good to be here. thank you. >> what is your thought on that video of the heritage action organization saying we helped do these bills. we get them to the governors, we use sentinels which i believe is a word for strawman to make it look grassroots and we tell them you better sign this. what kind of power would they have to get a governor to sign something? >> well, the video is certainly alarming, but it's not surprising. given what we have seen since november 4th, immediately after the election, these folks are the same folks who have helped perpetuate the big lie based on donald trump's refusal to accept that he lost the election and they're using that to promote bills across the country that

make it harder for people to vote. they're not saving our elections. they're working to make it harder for people to vote because they don't like the election outcome. >> governor ducy just signed these bills into law. put up the graphic, please. 1485 revises the state's permanent early voting list, removing voters who haven't participated in the last four elections. another one bars officials from granting a grace period for voters to fix signature issues. why should we care? >> well, i want to be clear. the permanent early voting list in arizona was passed by a republican majority legislature based on the popularity of early voting in arizona, which we have done for decades, before it was cool around the country. and this bill also removes you from the permanent early voter list, not just if you don't participate, but if you vote but

you choose to vote in a manner other than using your mail-in ballot, which has been allowed for years in arizona and voters have taken advantage of using various options that they have to vote. so this is, again, a bill that is not necessary. it is not fixing any existing problem. it is making it harder for people to vote. this will disproportionately affect people that are homebound and who maybe tend to move a lot. and this is, again, just a response to people who don't -- by people who don't like the outcome of the election. >> what's wrong with fixing signature issues? is there a lot of fraud with fake signatures? >> no, there's not, and we actually treat these signature issues differently. if your signature doesn't match, you have an opportunity to cure that five days after the election. if you just forget to sign the ballot, which is a common problem on the navajo nation because the ballots are not printed or the instructions are

not printed in navajo, navajo is not even a printed language, they miss the signature more often than other voters, so it stops their cure period earlier than the mismatch signature cure period, and it treats voters disproportionately. >> so to those in the audience right now who are going to roll their eyes and say the navajos, how big a deal is that? the navajo nation has denounced these laws. they have gone to court over the measures. and how significant was the native american voter population in this last election? >> the native american voters turned out significantly in this last election. i have to say, it's because of work that our office did, partnering with other organizations to make sure it was safe to vote for them. the navajo nation was hardest hit by the pandemic in arizona, and we wanted to make sure that they had every opportunity to vote. and we did that, and they showed up. and now, folks just want to make

it harder for them to vote. >> they have also had a tremendous comeback drawing on their cultural binds with one another and what their sense is of dealing with hardship. that's part of the story we have to tell more of. i want to ask you about something. cyber ninjas. okay. i like calling them that because it's ridiculous and that is the actual name of the outfit that has never done anything like this at this level ever before. now, 4 out of the 5 maricopa county board of supervisors are republican, but they're on your side because they see this as a fraudit, and one of their big problems is with the ninjas and one of the big problems with the ninjas is where they're getting their money. a cnn review of state records shows no safeguards controlling how much money the ninjas can get from outside contributors. how it can be spent, or even where it needs to be accounted to with the senate or anywhere else. trump supporters and conspiracy theorists claim to have funneled more than $1.6 million to the audit. why do we care about how much

money they are getting? because it means how well they can look for bamboo? >> this is really just a money making scheme for cyber ninjas and the republicans. we have heard recent reports that they're intending to expand the scope of this so-called audit, and you know, the longer it goes on, really, the better it is for the bottom line of both the republicans and the cyber ninjas. so it's really a money making scheme for them. >> you know, that's the laughable part. the cry part is this is taking way too seriously by people who have bought into white fright. the second time in six months that you have people coming after you in a way that is reasonable enough to demand more security. and they are putting on officials like you allegations that things haven't been turned over, things have been hidden, things are missing. the effect on you personally and your response to those allegations. >> well, look, i'm going to continue to do my job, and i'm not going to be intimidated by

the threats and the harassment. i'm doing the job that the arizona voters elected me to do. standing up for the integrity of our elections and protecting the voters of arizona. and so, you know, if you're going to come after me for that, bring it on. but i'm going to keep doing my job. it is very difficult in these circumstances, and i am glad that the maricopa county board of supervisors and finally joining me in this fight. >> interesting how partisan lines can fall down when you're being blamed for something that has a lot of people angry. it's easy to go back to principle instead of party when you're being blamed and you're seeing that on the right in your state right now. katie hobbs, stay safe. stay well, and we appreciate you being here. >> thank you. all right, so let's take a little step back into the weekend. how was it for you this weekend? what was the new normal? did you take the mask off, go outside? did you leave it off indoors? or maybe out? you one of those trying to

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politics, but i can't explain some of this. look at the differences here. i mean, like, if you're a baseball fan in texas, all of a sudden you don't have to wear a mask when you go to a ball game. you're a baseball fan in new york, you still do. how about the fact at cvs, you don't have to wear a mask, while at walgreens you do. what is the difference between cvs and walgreens to you and me? basically, nothing. had only difference i can find is that the cvs has a self-checkout and the walgreens doesn't. this is extremely confusing to folks and this is what happens when you give guidance like the cdc does and you have medical professionals who sometimes disagree with it, you get these rules and someone like myself or a normal person, perhaps, has a difficult time understanding when do i need to wear the mask indoors. >> one, i like that you distinguish yourself from a normal person. >> thank you. >> and two, i think a little bit of this is hype. if you want the answer, the answer is have a mask with you and wear it. that's not my concern here. my concern here is about the

unvaccinated, and those who are unvaccinated for bad reason, and those who now don't feel like they need a good reason to get vaccinated because they can just take their mask off. who is going to know? what do we know about the unvaccinated? >> right, what we know is that the unvaccinated folks are the least likely to wear the masks. it's actually the vaccinated folks who are the most likely to wear a mask when they're indoors. 65% of vaccinated americans say they always wear a mask outside of the house. just 46% of unvaccinated americans do. and let me tell you, people lie all of the time. there is going to be a lot of inclination from people who don't want to wear the masks anyway now all of a sudden, you're saying to them, if you're vaccinated, but we're just going on the honor system, we're just going on the honor system, so if you say you're vaccinated, you're good, this is going to give them good reason to not tell the truth, and that is a very, very bad situation because these unvaccinated people, to be honest with you, are people who could easily spread the virus. >> my biggest concern with the administration is i think they

have a fugazi factor with why they don't have the passport. i was chasing andy slavitt, the big covid adviser for the biden administration, for multiple appearances about why not a passport? why not a passport? i think they're worried about having to own systemic inequality here. that certain areas, places and faces, wouldn't have access, wouldn't be able to get the same kinds of things and they would now be seen as instituting systemic inequality here. but it's obviously coming at a price. and just to be clear, you don't want to get vaccinated, it's not because you know more about science. you also don't want to wear masks which means you're not about science, you're about politics, and what about social distancing? ? right, these people who aren't vaccinated are the people who are social distancing the least. it's the vaccinated americans who are social distancing, as you see on your screen right here. again, this is just a problem because we're going to get these unvaccinated folks who are going into stores. they're going to say, oh, if

you're not vaccinated, you need to wear a mask, but a lot of folks are not going to wear that mask. there are going to be people who can spread the virus, spread the virus to people who perhaps haven't had a chance to get vaccinated, like in the lower income communities who might be working at some of these stores like a cvs or walgreens, and so that to me is the big problem here, when you have unvaccinated americans who don't want to wear the masks and are going out a lot and they can be vectors to spread the virus to people who unfortunately haven't been able to get the vaccine for one reason or another. >> here's a real concern. people are going to want to go back to work, given the guidance, but you do have safety conditions that people have to be worried about, and we do see a kind of inverse equation here where the lower income you are, the more safety issues there are at your place of work. you can quantify it. how so? >> this is exactly right. so if you look at those who are making -- there's household incomes less than $75,000, look at that.

just 55% of them in the last year were satisfied with the working conditions, with the safety conditions at work. that was down significantly. folks like you and me, right, who are working, and we don't necessarily have to interact with people, who are fortunate enough, we're generally satisfied with the working conditions. we feel like things have been put into place to allow us to be safe to go back to work, but those people who are working behind those counters at, say, a cvs, they're the people who are out on the front lines being put in danger and they already don't feel they're safe at work. now you're saying to them, well, we're going to allow some people who might not be vaccinated and they don't need to wear mask, so when you're talking about the larger picture and seeing that people don't necessarily want to gee back to work who are in the lower income sectors this is one more reason for them not to want to go back to work because they don't feel safe, chris. >> harry enten, thank you very much. >> for those who say there's no such thing as systemic inequality, who died the most from the pandemic? who got sick the most? who had to work the most even in

unsafe conditions? same people that you say are not a part of systemic inequality. >> now, that's the known. and that's scary. unknown can also be scary. especially when you see it in the sky. i don't do ufo talk. i don't believe in it, but there are serious conversations under way about what are technically ufos. all right, but it's not about some stupid joke about little green men. otherwise i wouldn't do it. i'm going to talk to people, two people, who protected our country and deserve my attention. they saw things they can't explain and they have questions about where they came from. it's about credible, not crazy. next.

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as if congress doesn't have enough on its plate, they're now looking into ufos. or at least they're doing

something, right? next months, congress is expected to report from the director of national intelligence and other agencies on ufos or uaps, that's the government term for them. it stands for unidentified aerial phenomena. why? well, a retired u.s. navy pilot came forward to say he and his crew witnessed an unidentified flying object on the coast of the atlantic several times. and he's not the only one. joining us now, someone who has personally witnessed sightings. retired navy chief master at arms, shaun cahill, joined by christopher mellon, former deputy assistant secretary of defense for intelligence. thank you both. appreciate you for joining me. >> good evening. >> pleasure. >> all right, so let's dispense with the obvious here. chris, people are going to eye roll and say, boy, was cuomo light on what to talk about tonight. why is this worth discussion? >> because we have recurring

violations of u.s. air space by unidentified vehicles that are very capable, in some cases more capable than anything in our own inventory. this has been going on for years. the truth is just emerging. we have had a massive intelligence failure. and we now have a threat, an unknownthet we need to figure out. >> shaun, it's not that you're worried about something out of a movie coming to get you. it's about the threat right here on earth and how it's being motivated without our knowledge and ability to counter. >> that's correct, chris. in 2004, i was the chief master at arms onboard the uss princeton, and the technology we winced is something we would not have been able to defend our forces against at the time. >> help me understand that. as the uninitiated, what does that mean to us? >> that means that what we saw in the tick tack and what was described is the five observables, indicate a technology that outstrips our

arsenal by at least 100 to 1,000 years at the moment. >> 100 to 1,000 years. so meaning what kind of technology was at play that you were able to identify it but know you can't match it? >> first of all, the aircraft had zero control services. it had no means of propulsion we could detect. it moved at hypersonic velocities, and it proceeded the pilots to their cat point, so it seemed to have some knowledge of where the pilots were headed ahead of time. we don't possess those abilities to do that in our arsenal. >> what does it sound like to you, chris? >> well, we clearly are vulnerable. and this has been going on for too long. finally, our congress is learning of this situation. they're beginning to react. so we have a lot of catch-up here. but it is very concerning. it's not an imminent crisis or imminent threat. there's been no hostility, but there's a lot of activity and it's increasingly bold. in some instances recently, we had these things swerving around

war ships off the coast of california, swarming around strategic missile defense bases in guam, and other things. with all the tensions in the world and china and the rest, with the attack on the saudi oil facilities by drones and so forth, it's something we need to take seriously. >> you answered the question partly there, but let's fill it out a little bit. this is not new. people play with this, and they played all kinds of conspiratorial thinking, but a lot of real military and policy people say, look, there are things out there we have to keep track of that we can't. but why now? what's new in terms of the urgency, chris, and i'll ask you both about this. >> sure, happy to address that. so what happened was a couple years ago, lou alazaundo and the pentagon, who is managing this activity with almost no resources, he and i and a few others became aware that this was going on in a very significant scale on the east

coast at the time, and our pilots were not getting any support. the intel community was not responding. nobody was helping these guys out, and it wasn't being reported up the chain. it wasn't until that got into "the new york times" and got to the attention of congress that finally, our leadership in both branches of government became aware this was going on. so this is only just come to light. >> what do you think is the likely universe of explanation that will come up at the end of these reports and addressing of this? >> chris, i think we're going to find this phenomenon represents a very large spectrum of different things. edges of the spectrum are going to be near peer technology of our adversaries on earth, at the other end is something we don't yet understand and haven't yet identified. i hesitate to speculate on the source, but i don't believe this is within our arsenal of any human technology at the moment. >> so when you say that, it

almost guarantees that not just your good looks but that statement will get this picked up and sent all over the internet because there will be a legit military person saying that maybe this is from outer space. do you want that to be taken from people? >> well, that would be taking my words out of context. what we can say is that we don't know what this is, and it's here. it's going to take all of us to figure it out together. >> chris, what's your comment on that? they say look at the resumes of these two guys. they're both saying it might be from another world. >> there's no scientific reason or basis to doubt that possibility. that's a hypothesis that could explain the facts. people need to be open to that. we're spending billions looking for extraterrestrial civilizations. we have spacecraft that have left the solar system. it's possible somebody found us before we found them. >> and the age old question that i have been watching in movies my entire life. if they're smart enough to come here and have such advanced

technologies, why don't they talk to us? >> well, if they're that smart, what would they have to learn from us? when you go to the zoo, do you talk to the animals? >> i gotta tell you, right now, we're not presenting as exactly the best people to talk about. we're eating ourselves down here right now. i could understand why they would want to keep an arm's reach. >> the main point is -- >> sean, go ahead. last word to you. >> i was going to say, if they're as smart as we think they are, then i think we're silly thinking we can guess their motives. >> for me, look, there is no them. i am -- i'm a facts first kind of guy on this. i'm open to everything because there's so much i have learned in life that i would have never imagined, but i do know this. i worry about the safety of our men and women like you, and the people who wind up havess to cross the policy line to get into practice, i worry you're safe, i worry that people aren't beating us at our own game and we have to learn by spending

blood and treasure that wasn't necessary. any exploration, any research, any report, any hearing that helps us understand how to keep our fighting men and women safe is the only way to honor your sacrifice. thank you for your commitment, for the conversation. as you learn things that you learn that you don't like that it's not being looked at like it is supposed to, let me know. you have a friend at this platform. >> thank you. >> and thank you both for your service to the country. >> all right, matt gaetz, former wingman, plea deal filed last week. today, goes into court, pleads guilty. have to to get the deal. joel greenberg has been feeding feds for a long time. he's going to go to prison. they would not shed the trafficking, sex trafficking of a minor. they wouldn't shed that. it's too high value a crime, but what does this mean for the sex trafficking investigation into the congressman? i'll tell you why it is a legitimate question, and we know

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matt gaetz's former so-called wingman has pleaded guilty to sex trafficking. he went from smiling, living it up with folks like the florida congressman to standing in court with his hands and feet shackled, admitting among other things to soliciting and paying a minor for sex. we know from today's plea deal, actually, the deal that was reached last week, that greenberg introduced that girl to, quote, other adult men, who also had sex with her. as for what that means to gaetz, here is greenberg's attorney. >> does my client have information that could hurt an elected official? i guess this is just, you know, must-see television. you'll have to wait and see. >> look, he is not a tv attorney. okay, he's been doing this a long time at a high level. the answer to the question is, yes, all right.

if greenberg didn't have information about gaetz and other people who are seen of equal or greater value, he wouldn't get a deal. if greenberg hadn't given them information already that goes to potential prosecutable criminality at or at a higher level than they had against him, greenberg, he doesn't get a deal. so what does that tell you? the sex trafficking has to be in the mix. because they could not justify the deal, and this deal was long. these deals are usually short documents. a lot of times prosecutors don't want to let anyone else they're looking at know too much about what's they have from the current person. the participant in the deal. this was like 80-something pages. they went out of their way to make it very clear, they have a lot more than just greenberg in this. now, how did we get here? greenberg, how did we get to greenberg? none of the questions about

greenberg that took bite on the federal level come to pass without attorney david beahr. he pushed authorities to look into greenberg because of what greenberg was doing to his client. counsellor, good to see you again. >> same here. >> first, perspective on where we have arrived. you were there today watching the proceeding. what do you make of where we are at? >> we're at a very serious place for a lot of very serious people. so that document you're talking, 86 pages, the plea agreement. this is only the recitation. it is a lot of facts for a lot of charges and a lot of details pertaining to what happened that have been fleshed out. these aren't going obe surprises for the prosecutors. they know exactly what's coming. some of the words that are in there are really important. you just touched on one. and others, rather than another.

other adult men, plural, rather than another man. these are not accidental words. so this plea agreement, the fact that it exists, as you said, the prosecutors gave up a whole lot they didn't have to. the words that rin this plea agreement tell us a lot about what's coming up in the next months. >> what is your suggestion about whether -- what do you think the chances that gaetz does not get involved in this on any level? >> well, if we're just talking about percentages, i wouldn't bet against it. i'll say that. so i have heard a lot of talk out there about such as, well, if they had something against matt gaetz, they would have already prosecuted him. that doesn't make any sense at all. one of their pieces of evidence, they just secured today. they get in federal court criminal charges against people by grand jury indictments.

and so they present evidence to the grand jury, such as testimony from a witness which now they can do. >> and the documentary evidence to back it up. especially with greenberg. look, everybody who cuts a plea deal is susceptible to credibility issues because why did they cut the deal. matt gaetz actually points not just to greenberg but as proof that he has nothing to worry about, he points to your client and says, look, this guy greenberg has gone after people and slimed them before, and they had nothing to do, right? that's this politician who is running against greenberg. i'm the same guy. i'm just like beahr's client. what do you think of that? >> yeah, i have to say when i first saw that and when brian first saw that on friday, i was really disappointed. and frankly, pretty disgusted. i mean, we have an individual, brian, who honestly, he's just a normal guy that saw a corrupt politician and he said i want to

do something to try to weed that out. he's not, you know, into crazy nefarious things or anything. just a normal, innocent guy. and the most horrible stuff happened to him. gaetz is by all accounts not that kind of guy. even if you want to give him every benefit of the doubt, he is not some clean-cut guy. his own defense for what happened here is not some clean-cut i'm a square kind of guy. i think he's like the quintessential, all of our grandfathers told us, you know, lie down with dogs, you get fleas. at the very least, this is a story of lying down with dogs and getting fleas. for that person to try to piggyback off what brian went through, and brian's family went through, is really disappointing. and frankly disgusting. >> well, i'm glad the truth came out and your client's case, and we'll see that it does here as well. david, appreciate it. we'll speak again, i'm sure. >> i got a little piece of information for you before we go to commercial.

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