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beshear as a rogue reporter and said the interview contributed to his mother's fear, and isolation in the years before her death. it was a major contribution to making my parents' relationship worse and has since hurt countless others. the inquiry found beshear had faked documents in order to obtain the interview. the bbc said it had apologized in writing to both prince william and his brother, harry. the news continues. let's hand it over to chris for "cuomo prime time." i'm chris cuomo. welcome to "prime time." if you would, allow me a moment. remember i told you back in the beginning of march i can't cover my brother's troubles, it wouldn't be fair. you got it then and i appreciate you understanding. now, today there are stories out there about me offering my brother advice. of course i do. this is no revelation. i have said it publicly and i certainly have never hidden it.
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i can be objective about just about any topic. but not about my family. those of you who watch this show get it. like you, i bet, my family means everything to me. and i am fiercely loyal to them. i am family first, job second. but being a journalist and a brother to a politician is unique and a unique challenge, and i have a unique responsibility to balance those roles. it's not always easy. people can say and write what they want, but i want you to know the truth. how i helped my brother also matters. when my brother's situation became turbulent, being looped into calls with other friends of his and advisers, that did include some of his staff, i understand why that was a problem for cnn. it will not happen again. it was a mistake, because i put my colleagues here, who i
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believe are the best in the business, in a bad spot. i never intended for that. i would never intend for that and i am sorry for that. it's also important for you to understand not only do i not cover this here, i've never tried to influence this network's coverage of my brother. in fact, i've been walled off from it. this is a unique and difficult situation, and that's okay. i know where the line is. i can respect it and still be there for my family, which i must. i have to do that. i love my brother, i love my family, i love my job. and i love and respect my colleagues here at cnn. and again, to them i am truly sorry. you know who i am. you know what i'm about, and i want this to be said in public
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to you who give me the opportunity and to my colleagues who make me better at what i do. now i want to turn to a situation that is much more difficult to understand and demands our collective attention. you are about to see some of what happened about a year before the police murder of george floyd in minneapolis. and this confirms the notion that george floyd was not a one-off. he was not an aberration. this happened before, in louisiana. like with floyd, the killing was shrouded in lies. for years, until now. the video had been held pending investigation. we'll get into what that means. there were no people around like with george floyd to pull out cell phones, but the officers did have body cams on. what you are about to see was known to police and maybe other officials. here's the situation. ronald green, 49 years old, was
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chased by state troopers in the middle of the night while driving. now, all we know about what led up to this is that police wanted to pull green over for some sort of traffic violation, or so they claimed, and they say he ran. there's certainly a pursuit. a lawsuit by green's family claims that police told them he died instantly in a car accident after hitting a tree. at least that's what his mother was told by one officer, she says. the associated press obtained what it says is about 46 minutes of the body cam video. so far it's only posted a little over two minutes worth, but it goes a long way. it is disturbing. as always, i give you the option that it's hard to watch. but you know how i feel about this. if you want to deal with reality, you've got to face the reality. and it starts with the moment that troopers tase green through his open car door after the chase. here it is.
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>> let me see your -- hands, mother [ bleep ]. >> i got you. i got you. >> okay, okay, okay. oh, lord jesus. oh, lord jesus. >> let me see your hands! >> okay, okay. i'm scared, i'm sorry. i'm scared. >> get out of the car! >> i'm scared. officer, i'm scared! i'm your brother, i'm scared. >> okay, now what you hear there is i'm sorry, i'm scared, i'm your brother, i'm scared. that is green's voice. first of all, what does this tell us? he is not dead on impact. now, once he is out of the car, a second video shows green forced to the ground, punched repeatedly and tased again. here it is. >> get on the ground! get on the ground!
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>> taser, taser, taser. [ screaming ] >> put your hands behind your back. put your hands behind your back. oh, god dammit, get up here. >> you better not move. [ moaning ] >> got it? >> are you all right? >> you've got [ bleep ] aids. >> at the end that's the officer saying i've got blood all over me, i hope this guy ain't got bleepin' aids.
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then the audio is cut off. so we don't know what else is being said, but we can see. and in this next clip i would say that you should watch the lower left side to start, okay? a trooper uses his foot to force greene to play face down. do you see what's happening here? okay? so he's got him laying face down. remember, he's cuffed. you can see the cuffs in the lower left-hand corner. he's not going anywhere. then this a few moments later. they get ankle cuffs on him. they get them on and now they will drag him by the ankles. are they trained to do that? the a.p. reports greene was then left face down for more than five minutes. i know that number is haunting. you remember it from george floyd. while troopers i don't say
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sanitizer wipes to clean the blood off their hands and faces, they don't do a thing to get greene medical aid. please keep all of that in mind when you learn how the state police originally described what happened in their initial complaint. here it is. the pursuit ended when greene crashed his vehicle. greene was taken into custody after resisting arrest and a struggle with troopers. a short time later, greene became unresponsive and was transported to glenwood medical center. greene died while en route to glenwood medical center. what is left out of that? everything that you just saw. nothing there suggests the car crash is why greene died. struggle doesn't really capture it, does it? does it capture how he was treated, how he was dragged by his ankles when he was ankle
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cuffed and cuffed behind his back with his arms? that he had been tased repeatedly? did he just become unresponsive? the a.p. also obtained a medical report. an e.r. doctor wrote that when greene's body reached the hospital, it was bruised and bloodied with two stun gun prongs in his back. the a.p. says that led the doctor to question troopers' initial account that greene had died on impact after crashing into a tree. it does not add up, the doctor wrote. the state police don't want anyone putting the video out there, they say, because of the state and federal investigations that are still under way. two years, no charges. all this body cam video. isn't that a lot to go on, to have this protracted a period of analysis? and add this to the mix.
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a trooper making this admission. >> at least the officer gives detail that the report did not, right? now, it would be helpful to talk to that trooper about the events of that night, but he is also dead. he was killed in a single car crash in september, reportedly not long after learning he'd be fired for his role that night. tonight a state official with knowledge of the greene case tells cnn that state police were investigating this incident as a criminal matter the night of the event. that source tells us in their words the narrative that he died
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from a car crash, i don't know where that came from. this has been a criminal investigation since day one. so then not just the officers at the scene, but obviously investigating officers and maybe that means other public officials have been aware of this video for this long, and yet it has never been made public because it was necessary for the investigation? this long, all that video? no action taken. does that sound right? cnn has reached out to the other officers' attorneys for comment on the video. we're waiting. right now i'm joined by ronald greene's sister, alana wilson and ron hailey, an attorney for the family. i want to thank you both. i'm sorry, alana, to meet you under these circumstances, but i know you want this story told. to help us understand the difference between what you've seen and what you've been told, what were you told initially
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about this? >> initially i was told he died from a car accident. he went through the windshield. he hit a tree and he died on impact. >> who told you that? >> i was the first one to receive a call and i spoke to a state trooper. >> and was it a trooper who identified themselves as having been at the scene, or were they just passing along information? >> he wouldn't say. >> when did you get to see video? >> yesterday. >> what did it mean to you, what we all just watched? >> i'm saddened by the reality of the world that black and brown people have to live in
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this day. it's not our american dream. >> when you would believe that long that it was a car crash and then got to see such a different reality in the video, what was the hardest part for you emotionally in processing that? >> honestly, i haven't even been able to process it. i am still on the hunt and on a chase for finding justice for my brother, period. >> why do you think it has been so long without any action taken? >> because it's a cover-up on so many levels. from the emts to the troopers to the senate, the governor, the d.a. we've been getting the run-around since day one. we were told there was going to be a setback due to the holidays. there was going to be a setback due to the pandemic. it's been over 730 days.
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>> counselor, what is your best sense of why the investigation has taken this long and why the video hasn't come out? and doing a little legal research, they don't have a law like the north carolina we've been struggling with that unless the d.a. wants it out you have to have a court order and a judge. i believe we have the language. if you can put it up on the screen for everybody, fine. if not, from my memory it's that you need body worn camera video or audio recordings that are determined by the custodian to violate an individual's reasonable expectation of privacy shall be disclosed upon a determination and order from a court of competent jurisdiction, so that raises two questions. one, who had a reasonable expectation of privacy except mr. greene, who was deceased, because the others are officers wearing the camera as part of their job, and did anybody file an order like that on behalf of the family?
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>> well, listen, chris, thank you for having me. let's talk about this from a practical manner. the release of the video and the damage that it does to the credibility of the louisiana state police is exactly the reason why it's been suppressed. the suppression of the truth was gone on for two years because you saw what is on there. and what you saw on that video was murder. murder that has not been accounted for. understand this, these troopers have been allowed to still serve the louisiana state police and possibly violate other civil rights for two years. there's been no arrest. the most someone has gotten is 50 hours of leave time. and that is laughable and a slap in the face to justice and a slap in the face to the greene family. >> has anyone been fired? >> no. >> and when you saw the video and you went to the authorities and say this is not how it was
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explained as a vehicular death, that he died in the car, what has been their response? >> silence. it's been it's under investigation. just the idea, quote unquote, that we can't release anything because it's under investigation. look, this is an excuse. this is the playbook that the louisiana state police does all the time. this is not limited to ronald greene. we have aaron bowman who was beat the same way two weeks after this incident by the same folks in troop f. understand this, chris, the louisiana state police is in charge with investigating 99% of the excessive force and wrongful death cases against police departments throughout the state of louisiana. do you think they should be the ones investigating these cases? i think not. >> they say they still don't want the video released. a source told cnn this has always been handled as a criminal matter. do you believe that? >> absolutely not. this is an embarrassment.
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the idea they want to hide behind the idea that this is somehow going to tilt the wheels of justice or create an impartial balance, chris, let me tell this to the country. that's the point of body cams, right? body cams are supposed to be the most impartial proof of evidence when it pertains to a citizen and police officer interaction. the camera doesn't lie. and in this case the camera doesn't lie. the camera shows murder. >> alana, they say their description is that they had to do this to subdue your brother. what do you think of that and what do you want people to know about ronald greene? >> i want people to know that ronald loved people. you can hear that in his voice. he said i'm scared. i'm telling you, i'm scared. his hands were up. i'm scared. you're my brother. that's who he was.
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and he exude that even in the midst of hthem taking him down. they said it was a struggle. as soon as they came in, they tased him right away. it's sad. it's honestly sad. and it's sad that i can't even grieve my brother properly knowing that they did this to an innocent human being. this should have never happened like this. and the fact that they're continuing to cover it up is sickening. it's sickening. we're not going to stop until we get justice. >> the tape is out now. the authorities will be questioned and we will stay on them until they can give us an understanding of why they held the video and why nothing has happened in two years. that's the job, we will do it, i promise you that. alana wilson, i am sorry for you. please send my regards to your family. counselor haley, we're a call away. let us know what developments we need to inform the people about.
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>> thank you, chris. another investigation that we are following, new details about the raid at rudy giuliani's home and office. what is the exposure now for the former president's attorney? and you know all this talk about deep state and how they used the doj to come after trump? did you hear what the trump justice department did to a reporter here? a brilliant legal mind with insight into what is afoot, next.
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prosecutors got her phone and email records covering two months in the summer of 2017. they examined her pentagon extension, the cnn pentagon booth phone number, and her home and cell phones as well as starr's work and personal email accounts. what can make this okay and what does this mean about the state of play? who better than former white house ethics czar, norm eisen. why does anybody's records matter, because it's about privacy and unlawful search and seizure, unreasonably so. for journalists, taking the phone or records of a journalist exposes a host of people that we have an ethical obligation to protect.
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>> chris, thanks for having me back on the program. as we put more distance on the trump administration, we're finding out more and more really the shocking and unprecedented behavior. and this invasion of the journalistic profession. today we've learned about cnn. previously "the washington post," "buzzfeed," all adversaries of the trump administration, chris. there are cases when national security or other considerations, extraordinary cases, allow this. but the evidence here seems to be it was part of a pattern of retaliation. it is the worst nightmare of what an administration and a justice department can do. >> shouldn't they have to explain what warranted -- because the doj didn't go away, it's just run by different people now. shouldn't -- there have got to be people who were involved in
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that who were there. shouldn't they have to explain why they obtained this journalist's records? >> well, this new administration and the new management at doj, it's night and day with what we had before. i think we're just beginning to learn what transpired. i know doj has offered to discuss this. i'm confidence we are going to learn more and we're going to see what the basis was. but we know the -- we've seen other public abuses in the trump department of justice, both under sessions and under bill barr. i think as the information comes out, chris, we're going to see a very unsavory pattern. this may not be the last revelation of the invasion of the first amendment and the attack on journalists.
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it's as troubling as can be. >> and just to be fair, i wasn't a big fan of some of the things that happened in the obama administration with eric holder. he was chasing after journalists too, but i have never heard of them getting the records of journalists secretly. i mean this -- i don't understand how this isn't the fascination of everybody. i guess you could argue i'm sensitive because we're cnn. but i don't know why everybody isn't up in arms in this. if they did it to barbara starr, how do you know it's not happening to you right now as a journalist. that takes us to what we do know, which is what they got out of giuliani. why did they need 18 devices, if they have giuliani's icloud? i say this because of newly unredacted court filings show that the prosecutors took 18 devices from giuliani and some of his employees. the bulk of the now revealed material relates to a search of his icloud account. if you have that, why do you need anything else?
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>> well, chris, there is often additional data and meta data that resides on these devices in various places that can provide devastating proof of wrongdoing. not all of that gets uploaded to icloud and other places electronically. so you always -- it's standard investigative procedure, usually as you're getting toward the latter stages of the investigation, to go and get the actual devices. the fbi can strip extraordinary amounts of information over there that -- off of there that aren't available elsewhere. you know, it's the flip side of what barbara starr and the other journalists at "the post" and "buzzfeed" have suffered. here you have a department of
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justice methodically building a case and the new department of justice saying let's have a special master look at this. why? >> a special master is getting an independent person to look at it and see what should be looked at by them or not. is it perfect? no. but they don't have the same prosecutorial abilities that the department of justice would. norm eisen, thank you very much. appreciate you. all right, so now to another situation we're monitoring. the arizona fraud-it of the election. it's about to cost millions more for taxpayers. why? i'll tell you. and what have they gotten so far? conspiracies about ballots laced with bamboo, ballots fed to chickens, ballots tainted with cheese dust. i'm not making any of this up. what is the truth? we have one of the expert observers to exactly what's happening, next. ossible
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why? nobody has any idea what the cyber ninjas are doing to them, which poses an actual security risk. yet maga nation seems to want in on the action. in the town of wyndham, new hampshire, we saw people demanding an audit of their own town. we've seen similar scenes in towns from michigan to california. a trump supporter running against the republican governor of georgia is pushing for one there, despite the fact the state already did three recounts and one official audit, all run by republicans. amazing that at the same time these people can want all these things investigated that have already been investigated but they don't want january 6th, the infamy of a day our capitol was attacked because they say they already know enough. liz howard is with the brennan center. she's been tasked with observing the cyber ninjas in action. liz, thank you for joining us. what do the cyber ninjas look
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like in action? >> thank you for having me, chris. you know, this procedure that as you noted the secretary of state is calling a fraud-it has been flawed from the very beginning. the senate selected a firm whose ceo has promoted election fraud conspiracy theories and authored at least one of the memos that appears on sidney powell's election fraud website and things have gone downhill from there. the procedures in the arena are alarming and they are drastically different from the typical post-election audit procedures that you see in use across the country by election officials. you know, just from very simple things such as providing written instructions and written procedures for the audit before the audit starts, applying those procedures consistently, and then, you know, even down to their -- the method for ballot
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counting. in a typical post-election audit, a team of officials will review individual ballots to make sure that they both agree on how to count that individual ballot. in the event that there are stray marks or marks which one of those officials questions, in a typical audit, there's a clearclear s escalation procedure to make sure that ballot gets additional scrutiny and is counted correctly because in a typical post-election audit you care about accuracy. now, this is very, very different -- >> so for the people who don't get the expertise, do these people know what they're doing or not? >> no. no, they have no substantive elections or auditing experience and it absolutely shows. one of the more concerning procedures has to do with how they're asking people -- the ballot counters to count the ballots. they place the ballots on a spinning table and spin the
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ballot past individuals that are supposed to check to see how the ballot was marked for two different races, mark their tally sheet before the next ballot comes whizzing by on the table. >> why do it that way and what's the risk? >> so there's a couple of risks involved with this. so first off, each of the three counters at this table where there's spinning ballots keeps their own tally sheets. now, one of the main concerns that i have with the procedure is that the tally sheets are not required to match in order for the audit to proceed. so here they're basically taking a poll of three different people. how do you think that ballot should be counted as opposed to taking the time necessary to individually review each ballot and make sure that any ballot that has unclear marks on it is counted accurately and consistently. >> so the only thing we can guarantee is that their numbers are not going to match what came when it was audited by other
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people, and that's really all this has ever been about from the start. liz howard, thank you for being with us. it's good to have a fair set of eyes. i'm sure we'll talk again. good luck to you. >> thank you, chris. hey, do you live in one of those places where they're saying if you want the vaccine and haven't gotten it, we'll give you these perks? like in ohio where anybody who took it or anybody who wants it can get in a lottery, a jackpot, gift cards, beer? is any of it really moving the needle for americans? guess who we enlisted. the wizard of odds, the master of free things, on what is paying off and why some people who might want the vaccine still aren't getting it, next. dignity. it demands a rapid covid test, because we all deserve an answer. it demands your heart stays connected to your doctor, so you know it's beating as it should. and a rapid test to help evaluate concussion, in case something were to happen.
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never going to be a stick, but there is obviously a carrot. you know, the incentives for people who want to get the vaccine or people who are worried about it or hesitant. we now have some data to shed light on what works to get people to take the vaccine other than, you know, science. this is important because only seven states have vaccinated more than 70% of adults. that's supposedly the magic number, although i think the suggestion is that there is no magic number, just more is better. wizard of odds, harry en ten is
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here with a closer look. is it true that we are seeing increases in ohio, and if so, why? >> we are seeing increases in ohio, it is true. they put together this lottery system last week. look at this. after this lottery system if they said you'll be eligible to win a million dollars. look at this. a weekend to weekend change, up 28% compared to the prior weekend. now look at what happened. what we were seeing was decreasing vaccination rates in ohio, so it was down 25% the weekend before. but all of a sudden we saw this increase. and i will also say i was looking at the data nationally, and you don't see that same type of increase. so what's the difference between ohio and nationally? there it is, that new york money grub. and that's exactly what to me seems to have worked, at least in the state of ohio. >> why does it have to be new york money grub when it's in ohio? why can't it be the cleveland money grub? so it's not just money. some states are using unconventional incentives. what are we seeing about what they're using and what's
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working. >> right. one thing they're doing in western new york is they offered free beer and that seemed to actually work in buffalo. we know that from the polling there are other ideas, perhaps we should just give money and that may work well. it polls well with democrats. the idea of no longer needing to wear a mask if you get vaccinated, which obviously a lot of places are instituting, that polls well with republicans. so i think what we really should be doing is putting all hands on deck, right? whether it be a lottery, whether it's savings bonds that they're doing in west virginia, whether it's free beer and wine that they're doing in new jersey. all these different ideas, right, chris, we have to use untraditional sort of things in order to get perhaps some people who might not otherwise be willing to get vaccinated, actually get them to do it. if they haven't done it so far, then whatever we have been doing simply hasn't been working. >> there is a perverse tee which we'll discuss some day which most of the people that don't want the vaccine are republicans/trumpers and they say i don't use my money to give
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people other things i have to work for myself. now you have those people being incentivized in a way people that just get the vaccine don't get and it's their tax dollars being used to fund the snengt i' incentives for these republicans and trumpers. workers are worried about losing wages to take pto and side effects. how big a deal? >> i think it is a big deal. this idea that we want to be giving out lotteries and money, but at the end of the day i think a lot of working class folks who haven't been able to get the vaccine for one reason or another. paid time off says among the vaccine hesitant, 47% say that. 46% only need one dose to be vaccinated. those are well above the idea of just giving money. so what we also need to keep in mind is we really do need to make it as easy as possible for
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people to get vaccinated. if we don't, they may not get it. i think there are a lot of folks that want to get vaccinated but for whatever reason they can't get the time off from work or it's not convenient for them to get the vaccine. >> i still believe that a lot of this is about the federal government who has the most data and the most ability to do so sending out a way for you to show that you got vaccinated and not leaving it state by state and business by business. the weakness of my suggestion is if it is not equal for people to get the vaccine based ones s so y yo -- socioeconomics. >> this is so important to keep in mind. let's say the people that want a vaccine but haven't gotten it, black or hispanic, 18% in the most recent marist poll. incomes less than 50,000, 18%. much higher than higher income folks and white folks. so it seems to me that there
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does seem to be some inequity going on in the vaccine distribution because there are a lot of people in the communities of color as well as those in those lower income brackets who simply wanting the vaccine but haven't been able to get it. we need to make it much easier for folks to get it which is what we saw on that prior slide. people who say they haven't gotten it but might be vaccine hesitant, the way you get them to get it is simply by making it as easy as possible for them to get the vaccine. >> money doesn't hurt. >> money never hurts. >> harry, thank you very much, wiz, appreciate you. >> thank you, chris. so with all the incentives to get vaccinated, what's happening in the places where people are not showing up to get their shots? it's not good. bringing in a better mind to take us through the trend lines and where the next big battle could surface. this matters, next.
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not again! aah, come on rice. do your thing. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ let's bring in dr. ashish jha. doc, as always, the higher the vaccination rate, more people vaccinated, fewer cases. in fact, it's not easy to find big contagions around the country right now. however, how concerned should we be about the virus flourishing in areas with clusters of
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unvaccinated people, especially as a coefficient of where variants are? >> yeah, chris, thanks for having me on. i'm actually pretty worried, and i'll tell you why. last summer right around june, july, we saw a big surge of cases in the south. why in the south? because it gets pretty hot. it's hard to spend time outside. people cluster indoors. and if we have large numbers of unvaccinated people in those states, we may very well see a surge this those states. so i think a lot of us are worried about that. >> texas says shut up. they're actively prohibiting mask mandates, saying you can't say wear a mask in school. why you concerned? cdc says unvaccinated kids should continue wearing masks this fall. the pushback is you don't have the data. kids don't get that sick. most of them are asymptomatic. you tried to scare was the kawasaki syndrome. it's only a handful of kids. why isn't texas right?
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>> well, look. first of all kids thankfully don't get as sick as adults, but kids do get sick. we've seen a lot of hospitalizations and unfortunately even a few deaths in kids from this disease. so i think the idea that kids don't get sick at all is not right. and what we need to be doing is as infection numbers come down, we've got continue protecting kids. i do think that in areas with large numbers of infections, kids should be wearing masks indoors. i don't know why the state is banning that and not letting localities make their own decisions about these things. >> big brother, that you're just doing this to muscle up on them, it's a liberty issue, and that you are not factoring in the nightmare it is to keep kids with masks on, especially at the younger ages. >> well, i've got a kid whose pretty young who is 9 years old. he wears a mask all day. it's not a nightmare. you know what was a nightmare? when he couldn't go to school at all and was on zoom all day.
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one of the things masks allow is kids to get back in when they're not vaccinated. i absolutely think freedom is a freedom to go back to school. masks help with that, and i don't think we should abridge that freedom. >> how much progress are we making if people are still fighting the science at the state level? >> yeah, it's frustrating, right? because like we are in the middle of the worst pandemic in a century. we actually have a ticket out. like this is no longer really a fight. we know what the right answers are. get people vaccinated. wear a mask indoors if you're not vaccinated. let's move on with our lives. and the we're fighting ourselves, not just fighting the vaccine. >> i've been looking at information people are passing on to me about the boosters. it seems like if you get a booster shot after getting vaccinated twiece, the archbishp
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pickup is impressive to the point maybe you would never need to do anything else about this virus and maybe a host of other ones. but people don't want this vaccine. and now you're going tell them they need something else? it's going to be a problem, but we'll deal with it when we get to it. dr. jha, thank you. we'll be right back. >> thanks, chris. is what business is all about. it's what the united states postal service has always been about. so as your business changes, we're changing with it. with e-commerce that runs at the speed of now. next day and two-day shipping nationwide. same day shipping across town. returns right from the doorstep, and deliveries seven days a week. it's a whole new world out there. let's not keep it waiting.
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every time we're silent, every time we let hate flourish, we make a lie of who we are as a nation. my message to all of those who are hurting is we see you. and the congress has said we see you. and we are committed to stop the hatred and the bias. >> the anti-asian hate crimes bill now signed into law was passed with bipartisan votes. but shamefully, without the support of 63 republicans, including one senator, josh hawley of missouri. hawley is supposed to be a legal scholar, and he says the bill
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turns the federal government into the speech police, that it gives governments sweeping authority to decide what counts as offensive speech and then monitor it. the problem is they only do that after you hit someone because they were asian. thank you for watching. "don lemon tonight" starts right now. >> you know who has a lot to say than? someone from where you grew up, and that is queens, congresswoman grace meng who introduced this bill the president ended up signing. she is on the show a little bit layer, and i think she has a few choice words for josh hawley. >> there were two criticisms that don't make sense. one, it's not thought police. it's you hit me because i'm asian and said things to that effect. the idea of a hate crime bill is not new. and the issue of saying well, just deal with it in the punishment. don't punish the speech. we as a society made a determination that when you hit someone because of who or what they are, it
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