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hey, good evening. thanks for joining us. there is breaking news tonight as ceasefire between israel and hamas. just moments ago, secretary general said he welcomed the news. also, new reporting only on cnn about the trump-justice department targeting a cnn journalist. we, also, have new information about whether or not booster shots will be needed for people who got the covid vaccine. and if so, when? first, though, we begin with republican lawmakers and their pursuit of herd immunity from the facts of january 6th. the stampede grew today with gop senators voicing objections to the bill the house sent them to set up a bipartisan, 9/11-style commission to investigate. as for house republican leader kevin mccarthy who's gone so far as to lobby senators against the bill. he spoke out today and because he is known to be as hard to
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read as a flashing-neon sign, his answers to reporters today are fascinating. for background, remember, those republican colleagues have been telling cnn he is against a january-6th commission because, at least in part, he is afraid he will have to testify in front of it, which he denies. now, with that in mind, listen to him today with the bill senate passage deeply in doubt. >> do you think it's a conflict of interest for members to be voting on a commission they might have to potentially be witnesses for and provide information on? >> no, because who knows what they're going do on the commission. so, no, i don't think so. >> now, with -- without reading too much into it, he sounds like a man at ease, fully expecting the bill he opposed to go nowhere. on the other hand, he was certainly not at ease with the next question which proved to be a conversation ender. >> members in any communication with any of the people who stormed capitol hill? >> thank you for the question. everybody, have a nice day. >> his answer was hard to hear but his discomfort with the question was pretty plain to see. but thank you for the question, he said. he wasn't even under oath.
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now, that said, he can probably still breathe easy now that a number of key republicans, including some who voted to remove the former president intfrom office, are either expressing doubts about the bill now in front of them or are flat-out opposing it. senator richard burr, for one put out a statement saying the investigation is already being well handled by committees. he said, a pair of senate committees have already looked into the attack. but then, when pressed by cnn's manu raju, he conceded that their joint report will mostly examine the response to the attack but not the events leading up to it. now, other senators, including susan collins, have objected to wording that, they say, sets it apart from the bill establishing the 9/11 commission. cnn's pulled the language of both bills, and found that both were structured the exact-same way. senator collins also raised concerns that the commissions' work could spill over into an election year. yet, she fully supported the 9/11 commission which held half
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a dozen televised hearings. it's almost as if she and other republicans are straining for something to justify the outcome that they want, which kind of sounds familiar. remember, the arguments against the second-impeachment hearings. >> i'm a juror. i am going to keep an open mind as we go through this. but i do think that this constitutionality issue has to be addressed. >> it looks like we are going to be spending six, seven, eight, nine days glued to our chairs in the senate doing nothing but a stupid-impeachment trial. >> talking about a standard of inciting violence and i don't think it meets that standard. >> this is a partisan crusade. it is revenge. it's vindictive. >> it can be inexcusable, and yet not be subject to conviction after a president left office. >> it's what they are closing their eyes to now. including senator john thune, who said so out loud. telling cnn he doesn't want to be what he calls re-litigating the 2020 election. but keeping 'em honest, that's not what a commission is about. it's about an actual attack on
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democracy. about republicans and democrats and police officers and the american people. it is an event, unique, in our history. senator thune, and all the other members of congress, who might vote against a thorough examination of it, they know that. their arguments are largely, intellectually dishonest. and honestly, that only makes it worse. joining us now, member of the senate judiciary committee, senator mazie hirono. senator hirono, appreciate you being with us. what does it say this commission bill, this january 6th commission bill, seems to be basically dead on arrival in the senate? >> it's just as you say. it's their pursuit of herd immunity for what happened on january 6th. they are closing their eyes, ears, everything, to what happened. they are afraid to get to the bottom of it because they might actually be subpoenaed to testify on what they knew, what they did, what they -- you know, all -- all of that. so, they just don't want to get to the truth, because they're afraid of it. >> kevin mccarthy was, personally, lobbying your
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senate-republican colleagues to oppose the commission, the morning after the former president released a statement calling on mccarthy and mcconnell to defeat the bill. i mean, think that's a coincidence? >> not at all. they are, still, totally afraid of former-president trump. it's just amazing. so they have handed over all this power, to trump, to continue to hold sway over them. it's more than pathetic. it's cowardly. and all i can say is that the palpable fear that they have of trump is making them do all kinds of things that i don't know how they look at themselves in the mirror. >> i mean, i understand kevin mccarthy, who, you know, wants the -- you know, power and he is up for re-election every-two years. mitch mcconnell. i mean, he's folded to the former president even though he criticized the former president. he is 79 years old. not up for re-election until 2026. why is he doing that? >> maybe, he's afraid for some of his members who are running for re-election?
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and they want to run away from the truth of what happened on january 6th. so, a lot of his members rely on mitch mcconnell for the resources they need to run for re-election, i can tell you that. there's a lot of dark money, behind these elections. and maybe, that's what's going on. but they will never admit it. the fact is that they are not doing this country any favors. they are certainly not doing democracy any favors. they're -- they're not doing any favors for the capitol police, who bore the brunt of the violence that occurred on january 6th. so, all around, all they are doing is benefitting trump. >> speaker pelosi has, strongly, suggested that she'd approve a special-select committee in the house to investigate what led to the innsurrection if the commission vote fails in the senate. do you think that's the best back-up plan? it's pretty clear, they would
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just paint it as a completely-partisan effort. >> of course, they will. because people who don't even want an independent commission are, definitely, going to paint a select committee doing the work as -- as, also, partisan. but that is where they are. and so, not only do they not want an independent commission. they were -- they're prepared to criticize a select committee, which is the reason that speaker pelosi wanted an independent commission. so, why don't we just, all, face up to the fact that they totally do not want to face up to the truth of what happened on january 6th. and any responsibility that trump had because they are deathly afraid of trump and his base. >> president biden signed the covid-19 hate crimes act into law, today. addressing the rise in anti-asian hate crimes. you introduced the bill. 62 of your republican colleagues in the house, one -- your senate-republican colleague, josh hawley, voted against it. do you know -- do you understand
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their -- their vote against it? >> when you have people, like marjorie taylor smith and others of her ilk on the house side, you know, they -- what can i say? at least, on the senate side, everyone saw what we, all, saw. which was all of these -- these depictions of aapi-community people getting beaten up. sometimes, with bystanders standing by, doing nothing. >> marjorie taylor greene, by the way. >> pardon me? >> you said marjorie taylor smith. it's marjorie taylor greene, i believe. >> oh, sorry. >> it's okay. >> marjorie taylor greene. thank you for that correction. but, you know, i don't spend a lot of time trying to figure out what the house members are doing. at least on the senate side. they did not turn away from the opportunity to stand with the aapi community. and they did so, except for one person we won't talk about. >> yeah. >> so that was really important
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for the aapi community that for once, the senate, and now the house, and the president, of course, stood with them from the very beginning as he saw the rise in hate crimes against aapis. that we are standing, firmly, in condemnation of these kinds of crimes. and in so doing so, we are also standing up for other marginalized and discriminated-against groups. so, today was a good day for those of us who, you know, stand with this community and want to do something about it. and i'm glad that the attorney general was, also, there because he has also begun his own actions. before this even passed. he told me that he is going to implement the provisions of this bill so that these kinds of crimes and incidents, which are very underreported, will be reported. >> yeah. senator hirono, i appreciate your time. thank you. >> thank you. aloha. coming up next. imagine being told by police that your loved one died after crashing his car into a tree. only to discover, years later,
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when parts of a body-cam video are leaked, that police, actually, tased, punched, kicked, and dragged your loved one, by his feet, before he died. that is what the family of ronald greene, mr. greene is who you are seeing on your screen, says happened and they want answers. we will show you the tape in a moment. and there is breaking news tonight on the investigation. then, later, live reports from the middle east, washington, as white house pressure brings a ceasefire between israel and hamas. for th. love you, sweetheart they guide me with achievable steps that give me confidence. this is my granddaughter...she's cute like her grandpa. voya doesn't just help me get to retirement... ...they're with me all the way through it. come on, grandpa! later. got grandpa things to do. aw, grandpas are the best! well planned. well invested. well protected. voya. be confident to and through retirement.
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there is outrage, tonight, over newly-obtained video showing a black man being tased, kicked, and dragged by louisiana state troopers after struggling with officers following a traffic stop that took place two years ago. a chase had been involved. the video shows a dramatically different outcome from the initial-crash report filed immediately after the incident, which said only ronald greene was not wearing his seatbelt when the crash happened, that he was pronounced dead at a local hospital. the family's attorneys have filed a wrongful-death lawsuit. and the department of justice is
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among the agencies now investigating. our randi kaye has more. >> reporter: ronald greene is under arrest, after taking police on a high-speed chase in monroe, louisiana. watch what happens next. >> okay. okay. okay. >> reporter: the officers tase greene, while he is, still, sitting in his car. he apologizes, and repeatedly tells officers he's scared, as they try to force him out of the vehicle. >> get out of the damn car! >> okay. okay. i'm scared. i'm scared! >> get out of the car. >> officer, i'm scared! i'm your brother. i'm scared! >> reporter: the family's attorney says greene apologized in an attempt to surrender. >> it's not only what you're seeing but the sounds that go with it. you can hear him screaming and writhing in pain, as he says i'm your brother, please, stop. i'm sorry. i was just scared. >> reporter: the incident happened, two years ago, but this is newly-obtained body-cam
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video by "the associated press." which says the entire video is 46-minutes long. cnn has not reviewed the full video, so we do not know what happened before, or in between, the three clips the "ap" released. this body-cam video shows greene on the ground being handcuffed. he's face down. yet, once again, the officers tase him, punch him, even kick him. he is left on the ground, face down, moaning in pain, according to "the associated press," for more-than-nine minutes. while, the officers use sanitizer wipes to get the blood off their hands and faces. the ap"the ap" says he was not any aid during the nine minutes he was on the ground. at one point, a police officer is seen stepping on greene. then, roughly, dragging greene by the shackles on his ankles, as another officer watches. this video clip is silent, so
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it's unclear what's being said, or why greene, who is handcuffed on his stomach, and in no position to resist, is being dragged. the body-cam footage tells a very different story, than how louisiana state troopers, first, described the incident in their 2019 report. which said troopers tried to pull greene over for a traffic violation, which ended when greene crashed his car. another police report said greene was taken into custody, after resisting arrest and a struggle with troopers. and that, he died on the way to the hospital. a wrongful-death suit, filed last year by greene's family, says police told his family he had been killed in an auto accident. and that, one officer said he was killed, immediately after hitting a tree. authorities have refused to make the video public. these postmortem photos of greene released on the naacp baton rouge facebook page show the extent of the injuries greene suffered during the incident. abrasions on his skull, and bruising across his cheeks.
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ronald greene's mother told cnn, in a statement, they murdered him. that her son didn't have a chance. >> i mean, it is incredibly disturbing that -- that -- that tape. and that's just a fraction of it. then, that was leaked. what else are we learning about this case? >> well, just tonight, anderson, we are getting some new information. we now know that a state police official, telling my cnn, telling my colleague, nick valencia, this source has knowledge of the incident. he said from the start, this was a criminal investigation, from that night, this source is saying. he said he points to the local-news coverage. he says he doesn't know where this narrative came from that ronald greene died from that crash, that night. he said this was a criminal investigation, from day one, according to this source. and just a couple of little bit of information, we are also learning about the officers who were involved. two of those officers involved were reprimanded for their actions, and some part, really
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just for how they were using their body camera or not using their body camera. you saw, there was some of that video that was silent. one of the officers on administrative leave, not related to this case but to another incident. and another of the officers who you saw in that video got a 50 -- 50-hour suspension. so that's just a couple of days off the job. that's from the louisiana state police. and a third officer died in a single-vehicle crash, last september, last year. so the family's attorney tonight very upset about this. demanding that these officers be arrested, right away. and we can, also, tell you that the u.s. department of justice, civil-rights division, is investigating. along with the fbi and the u.s. attorney's office, anderson. >> randi, appreciate it. let's get expecperspective now charles ramsey, former top cop in washington and philadelphia. also, former president of naacp. chief ramsey, is there any justification for dragging a handcuffed suspect, face down,
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by the feet along concrete? i mean, what does -- does anything you saw in that video make sense to you? >> no. no, it doesn't. and -- and there's nothing, in any manual, anywhere in the united states, that allows for dragging an individual, face down, by their ankles. you know, it clearly is a case of excessive force. i mean, between the tasing, kicking, beating. having him in a prone position for that length of time. even though no one was sitting on him, like in george floyd's case. that is, still, a position that's very difficult to breathe. and part of your training tells you, as soon as you get him cuffed, roll 'em over or sit 'em up in order for them to be able to breathe. in fact, when mr. greene tries to roll over, one of the troopers actually puts his foot on his lower back, and pushes him back down. so, this is a very troubling case. at two-years old, there's no excuse for this to be held for two years. and certainly, the conflict in
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the reporting. i mean, clearly, if the reports are accurate, they were lying. i mean, that's a coverup. the -- the statements being made are not consistent with what the video is showing. and that's a problem, in and of itself. >> you know, we saw in the george floyd case, the initial-police report that was put out. which, you know, essentially, said mr. floyd had a medical incident and police called the paramedics, as though they were the saviors, in that -- in that case. the police report, in this, is just -- it's the same kind of thing. it's -- it's -- you know, anybody looking at this would start to believe you cannot trust any-police report. or -- or, you know, initial reports that are put out by police departments. it, certainly, raises questions about how many-other incidents there are like this, that just never come to light? >> no, it does. and we know, from the files of the naacp, that we have been working cases like this from the very beginning.
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one of thurgood marshal's earliest cases was of a black motorist who bumped a white woman and was never seen, again. we actually got a conviction of that officer. got the local prosecutor to prosecute, back in the 1930s. what we know here is that we see something that looks a lot like murder, and it was covered up for two years. these officers are, likely, guilty of murder. and any officer who covered it up is an accessory, after the fact. we have to begin going after the no-snitching culture of the cops. and we have to deal with the ones who cover up crimes, like this, as the criminals they are, full stop. and then, we have to deal with the unions who enforce this culture of science. we can no longer call you a good officer if you're silent. chief ramsey knows what i know. we've worked on a lot of these cases together, over the years. he, in his role. and me, in mine. and what you know is this. 10% or so of the officers are bad. 10% or so have the courage to stand up.
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and like, 80% are silent and it's the unions that enforce that silence and it has to stop. >> chief ramsey, i mean, these officers -- these troopers -- they are literally wiping the blood off their hands. and i -- i guess, their uniforms or their faces, for minutes, while this man is lying down, moaning. it's -- it's really just -- i mean, i've seen this, now, several times throughout the day. one wonders. this tape is 46-minutes long. this is the leaked part is only a few minutes. who knows what else is on this tape? why haven't authorities -- is there some -- is there no standard for releasing body-camera footage? is it just up to local-police departments to decide? >> well, each jurisdiction is different. sometimes, it's up to the police department. sometimes, it's the courts that make the determination. but, you know, something like this. you just cannot keep it quiet.
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i go back to the chicago incident with laquon mcdonald, again, you had a situation where the report did not match what you saw on the video. this was an incredible situation, policing in the united states finds itself in right now. and the only way out of it is through transparency. is through dealing with this, head on. and dealing with the reality that we've got some people that should not be wearing a uniform, wearing a badge, or carrying a gun, period. and we've got to find a way to weed 'em out and it's got to become easier to be able to fire an officer. you mentioned union. it is very difficult to get rid of an officer. but the leadership has to have the will to put this out, and make sure that they take care of it. there's no reason for this to have been held for two years. and there's no reason for these reports. the public may not have seen this video. but i guarantee you, the bosses saw it. people within that organization saw that video. and the alarm bells should have gone off, right there. >> yeah. i mean, ben, a state official
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now unnamed is saying that louisiana state police were investigating greene. the incident as a criminal matter, the night of his death. that was two years ago. i mean, if they were investigating this as a criminal matter. and according to randi kaye, some of the punishments were simply -- were more about them turning off the body-cam sound, than actually the -- the death of -- of mr. greene, it seems. >> look. we have cops running departments of cops and we have cops investigate the crimes of cops. we have civilians run the u.s. department of defense for a reason. it's a check, on the power of the generals. maybe, it's time to have civilians run our public-safety departments. run our police departments. >> would -- would that make a difference, do you think, ben? >> oh, absolutely. transparency and civilian oversight would make a huge difference. and the reality is that policing in our country is a state-by-state, city-by-city, county-by-county matter.
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and i'd say, the most courageous thing i've seen since the chauvin trial started was on day three of that trial, the mayor of ithaca, new york, passed, unanimously, through city council, a provision to turn his police department into a public-safety department. have it run by civilians, and have half of the positions be un-uniformed, un-armed social workers. and -- and it's time for us to really just ask what do we need to be safe now? because the inertia from slave patrols and, you know, old regiments of redcoats. like, that inertia to today. that culture. i it's -- we got to break the policy. civilian oversight would go a long way. >> appreciate your time. yeah. i appreciate it. thank you. next, reporting you will want to see. a stunning revelation about the trump justice department in the
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more, breaking news, now. it involves one of our own. pentagon correspondent, barbara starr. at its heart, the story striking revelations about the justice department and the prior administration ultimately concerns all of us. it involves our right to know what our government is up to, as well as our shared-vital interest in the government not
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abusing its power. joining us with exclusive details is cnn's jessica schneider. so what did you learn? >> yeah. so we have learned that the trump administration secretly obtained these records from our pentagon correspondent, barbara starr. we don't know, anderson, why they were obtained. they aren't telling our justice -- sorry, our pentagon correspondent, why they were obtained. but we do know the doj got ahold of her phone-and-e-mail records, from june 1st, 2017, to july 31st 2017. those records show who she was corresponding with but not the contents of the conversations. and we do know that, during that time, barbara starr reported on u.s. military options being prepared for president trump on north korea. as well as, stories on syria and afghanistan. but, you know, since starr's records were secretly obtained, anderson. and all of the court proceedings surrounding the approval for the process are sealed. there is, still, a lot of mystery here, as to why the justice department was seeking her records. and what, exactly, this pertained to. we don't know if this was a leak investigation or some-other
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investigation. doj is just not saying. anderson. >> and do we know the reason why these records were obtained from -- from barbara? >> yeah, we don't know. this was, all, done in secret. and it's interesting, because under the media guidelines here, the attorney general, and at the time, it was bill barr, throughout all of 2020 when these records were received. he actually had to approve of pursuing these records. and then, the case had to be made, in court, that the reporters didn't have to be notified, because it could possibly jeopardize national security. or jeopardize the investigation, itself. so, this was, all, done in secret. and we have no information, except for the fact that the records were obtained. now, as for the former-attorney general, bill barr, i have reached out to him for comment. he has not responded and the justice department here, the current-justice department, anderson, has made clear that this was all done under the trump administration. >> so it's not known what evidence was offered by department of justice to obtain these records? >> that's right. all of this was done in court,
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under seal, and in secret. so presumably, they had to make a case as to why they needed these records. and as to why they didn't need to notify cnn or our pentagon correspondent, barbara starr. but all of that is, still, under seal. we are not privy to it. we don't have access to it. it's all secret. >> also, just, you know, just recently, revealed that three "washington post" reporters were told this month they had their records obtained during the trump administration. >> right. so, this is what makes this even more sig nificant. this news coming out today about bar barbara starr's records. three "washington post" reporters had their records obtain also from 2017 and this is significant because this is the second time in just a few weeks that we have learned that reporters from two organizations, cnn and "the washington post," were targeted. and this -- these were two organizations, obviously, anderson, that the former-president donald trump repe repeatedly railed against.
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and then, the doj got their records. >> jessica schneider, appreciate it. thanks. cnn legal analyst and former federal prosecutor, jennifer rogers. so, jennifer, ka ycan you walk s through, in layman's terms, the doj process for obtaining e-mails? >> as jessica said, we don't know the substance. it might be a leak investigation or something like it. of course, the department of justice can issue subpoenas. and for reporters, it's a little bit of a different process. there are stricter procedures in place, because of the importance and centrality of reporters' work to our democracy. those procedures are, actually, strengthened in 2015. but what they have to do is they have to go to a special unit, within doj, for the first step of approval. and they have to go 30 days in advance of when they want the records. then, the attorney general has to, personally, sign off on this request. on the subpoena. and that's to make sure that this is really important. this is only supposed to be done, in extraordinary cases. cases, involving things like national security. not just your run-of-the-mill,
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criminal matter. and then, as jessica said, if you want to refrain from notifying a reporter about this so that he or she could fight it in court, in advance. you have to get a whole-nother set of approvals and reviews. so, there are strict procedures in place. the problem is they're just regulations. they don't have the force of law. they're not enshrined in the constitution. and so, it really relies on the good faith of the people at doj including the attorney general and unfortunately, bill barr under trump's department of justice didn't act in good faith a lot of the time. we can't say, for sure, whether this was one of those instances but there certainly is a pattern of behavior here that causes me to question whether this is a legitimate exercise of the subpoena power. >> the whole idea of federal authorities respecting freedom of the press, not intruding on reporters' phone calls/e-mails. it's as you said essentially an honor system. if someone high up wants to know who a reporter is talking to, at least on an unencrypted communication device or unencrypted app, they can get
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that information. >> they can and there are circumstances where that's okay. i mean, if you are really talking about an important national-security matter. where you have someone very high up in the government leaking classified information. that's critical to national security. i think, it's okay for doj to issue a subpoena, like that. the problem is, you want to make sure that that's the situation we're talking about. and so, you can put in place all the strict procedures you want. but without a law or without something in the constitution protecting these reporter' privileges, you know, you are really relying on the good faith and that's where it can break down. >> they would only have access to -- to e-mails, to phone conversations. i mean, if it was using an encrypted signal. or even something with -- like, whatsapp. would they still have access to that? >> well, in this case, the subpoena can only get you the -- the toll information. so it can tell you what numbers were called, how long the call was. similarly, with e-mails, what e-mail addresses were going back and forth. not the content. to get content, you need a
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search warrant. which means, of course, a whole nother level of review by a court. so that is an additional-safety procedure in place. we are not just talking about content here. we are just talking about who they are talking to and for how long. >> cnn's awaiting an explanation from the justice department about exactly what this was all about. they didn't just go after barbara starr's records. they didn't just go after three "washington post" reporters' records. also tried to find who was behind devin nunes parody twitter account. i mean, if that's part of their priorities, that's pretty stunning, to me. >> yeah. that might be the most egregious thing of all, without to knowing the facts. because you just can't really think about a reason that's important enough that would require that to happen. i mean, at least you can theorize, in the case of reporter records, some sort of information leak or something. but trying to mask a parody twitter account making fun of devin nunes. you just can't see any legitimate law enforcement need for that whatsoever. just ahead.
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ceasefire between israel and hamas. we have reports from jerusalem and washington about the negotiations that brought it about, and the next steps for both sides, when we continue.
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ceasefire between israel and hamas appears to have ended 11 days after air strooks and rocket fire, according to the latest figures from hamas run ministry of health. at least 232 people have died have the air strikes, 65 of them children. i am joined now by our senior international correspondent, ben wedeman, in jerusalem. and our chief white house correspondent, kaitlan collins, at the white house. so, ben, the ceasefire supposedly started. what are you seeing there? does it look like it's holding? >> it does look like it's holding, for now. but in a few years, probably, it will come to an end. what we're seeing is that, here, in jerusalem, we were hearing lots of fireworks being shot off. and cars honking their horns. in celebration. this is a palestinian part of town. many palestinians feel that, in this round, despite the
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high-death toll in gaza, that, somehow, hamas -- the palestinians won this round, anderson. >> and what is the feeling amongst not only officials but from -- from citizens in -- in -- in -- or israelis on the -- the likelihood of this agreement succeeding? >> i think, people believe that, for the time being, the ceasefire will hold. as we saw back, in 2009, 2012, and 2014. but the fact that when -- we're just finishing the fourth war between israel and gaza since 2008. there isn't a lot of confidence that this will hold, for more than just a few years. keep in mind that there was -- as far as israelis go, there was an opinion poll published on thursday. that said that as many as 73% of the israeli population felt that
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the operation should continue. because, i think, there is a realization that, even though a ceasefire has been worked out. the fundamental problems, behind this series of wars between gaza and israel, have not been resolved. and will not be resolved, anderson. >> kaitlan, how big a role does the white house believe it played in getting this ceasefire announced? >> well, i think that president biden is feeling pretty good tonight about the tactic that he took here, which came under fire from a lot of process progressive members of his own party, who were saying he needed to be more critical of note netanyahu. he needed to come out and call for a ceasefire. as some other democratic leaders were, nancy pelosi, chuck schumer. and he refused to do that. he was never publicly critical of netanyahu. he never, explicitly, called for a ceasefire. the closest he got was during that readout yesterday when he said he wanted to see significant deescalation of the
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violence, anderson. and what we are hearing from white house officials is that, president biden told aides over the last-11 days or so, you know, netanyahu is someone i have known and worked with a long time. he saw how president obama and netanyahu had a very icy relationship. i think he wanted to take a different approach than that. and they felt like, if they kept netanyahu closer and they were not publicly critical of israel. didn't kind of back them into a corner. they could get the violence over, faster. and so, they are feeling pretty good about that tonight. but we should note that earlier when we saw president biden, he did not answer our questions about whether or not -- what ben was just talking about -- this ceasefire is going to last. >> what did he say, when he spoke, briefly, after -- after it was announced? >> so, he definitely was supportive of israel. he talked about, of course, the iron-dome system that they have been using in response to the rockets from hamas. and he was talking about what the u.s.'s response to that is going to look like. really, what the next steps are going to look like and this is what he said. >> the prime minister, also,
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shared with me his appreciation for the iron-dome system. which our nations developed together, and which has saved lives of countless-israeli citizens, both, arab and jew. i assure him of my full support to replenish israel's iron-dome system, to ensure its defenses and security, in the future. i believe the palestinians and israelis, equally, deserve to live safely and securely. and to enjoy equal measures of freedom, prosperity, and democracy. my administration will continue our quiet and relentless dipl diplomacy toward that end. >> and i think, anderson, really, two things are obvious emerging from all of this. which is, one, you know, this is not an issue that president biden prioritized taking office. and now, it is at the foefr fro forefront of issues that people are going to be paying attention to. does this ceasefire last? what happens if the evictions start up and violence restarts? that's going to be something they still have to deal with. it cannot be low on their
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priority list but also it is going to be this rift among the democratic party. where you saw these progressive members of his party calling for a different-u.s. stance toward israel and they did not get the condemnation that i think they would have gotten in years past. so i think it does change things going forward. we will have to see how much, anderson. kaitlan collins, ben wedeman, thanks so much. still to come the debate when americans need to get a covid-booster shot, even as vaccine hesitancy is still a real problem in the country. ( ♪ ) ♪ quite as often as i could have ♪ we're delivering for the earth. by investing in more electric vehicles, reusable packaging, and carbon capture research. making earth our priority. i thought i'd seen it all. ( ♪ ) - [narrator] we miss being together, but you can still feel a strong sense of community i thought i'd seen it all.
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thanks in large part to vaccinations new cases of covid are at an 11-month low. they are expected to drop even further along with hospitalizations and deaths in the coming weeks, which is certainly fantastic news. already dr. anthony fauci, pfizer and others are discussing the possibility of needing a booster shot. dr. fauci told "the washington post" we're preparing for the eventuality that we might need boosters. when that may be is unclear." i want to talk about it with dr. leana wen. dr. fauci said yesterday we'll need boosters when we start to see more break-through infections and the ceo of pfizer
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put that at 8 to 12 months afternoon your second shot. what's your thoughts on when and why we'll need them? >> well, i don't know at this point that we know when we'll need boosters. that's because we're still tracking those data. right now we know that the vaccines work very well against the variants of concern here in the u.s. we also know immunity will last at least six months. we don't know exactly how long. i think tracking break-through infections, infections in fully vaccinated people will be really important but i also don't want for us to get ahead of the science here. that's because while there are some people that will say if there's a booster i want to sign up tomorrow, we also know that one of the main reasons why people are hesitant to even get the vaccine actually has to do with the possibility of a booster. and so i don't want to accidentally deter people who are already vaccine hesitant by giving them premature information about needing a booster when we don't know exactly when that is just yet. >> so you think officials may be getting ahead of themselves when there's still so many people
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that haven't gotten -- i mean you think it will deter people from even getting a first dose? >> there are some focus groups that have found for people who are vaccine hesitant, one of the main reasons that they cite is this idea that we may need to get a booster. they say that means that the pandemic will just keep on going, so what's the point of getting the first shot if i need to get another one six months or 12 months down the line. now, i think that's difficult for some people to understand because some people are saying the moment i finding my immune may be waning, i want to get a booster. recognizing some people may have that mentality, it's important for us to not get ahead of the science. do the science. but i think when we hear the pfizer ceo as an example speak, he's talking to his investors. he is talking to his stakeholders. we should keep that in mind that's the target audience. >> you've been clear that the cdc went too far with the mask guidance and the ripples of that are being seen all over the country. texas, iowa, utah are going to prohibit mask mandates in schools and businesses. those states also have
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relatively low vaccination rates. do you expect to see a corresponding uptick in cases there? >> i really hope not. i am hopeful that we now have a high enough rate of vaccination in the country that we're not going to see that uptick, but i'm also very worried because in those particular areas where we don't have high vaccination rates, those are also areas that also don't have great public health infrastructure. so ideally what we would see is if there are new cases, we're able to detect them. we're able to test for them, able to do contact tracing and then quarantine and isolate. if the public health infrastructure is not there, we may have new outbreaks and there may be new variants emerging with that. so i really hope that at this point people will do what they can, individuals who are not vaccinated yet should get vaccinated. until then wear a mask. i also hope that businesses will differentiate between the essential businesses and non-essential businesses. ones that are truly essential like pharmacies or grocery stores, ideally they should
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still keep mask mandates in place to protect the immunocompromised children and other people who are not yet vaccinated. >> the american academy of pediatrics updated their guidance yesterday, saying even if vaccinated adults don't have to wear mask, unvaccinated children should still do so. can you explain your view on when, where, and if children should wear masks and does lifting mask mandates put kids at greater risk? >> that last part is what i'm really worried about because there is this pervasive narrative out there, anderson, that somehow kids don't get covid-19, which is just not true. we know that there are 3.9 million infections among children with covid-19. 24% of the new cases are actually in children. thousands of children have gotten this multi-system inflammatory syndrome and so children don't need to wear masks outdoors, but indoors if they are around other kids who are also unvaccinated they should be wearing masks, and that includes in schools. if there are unvaccinated adults and unvaccinated children, they
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bashir secured the interview in the first place. in the broadcast, she detailed the breakdown of her relationship with prince charles. today prince william described bashir as a rogue reporter and said the interview contributed to his mother's fear, and isolation in the years before her death. the broadcast was, as prince william put it, a major contribution to making my parents' relationship worse and has since hurt countless others. the inquiry found bashir had acted in a deceitful way and had faked documents in order to obtain the interview. the bbc said it had apologized in writing to both prince william and his brother, harry. the news continues. let's hand it over to chris for "cuomo prime time." i'm chris cuomo. chris? >> anderson, appreciate it. welcome to "prime time." if you would, allow me a moment. remember i told you back in the beginning of march i can't cover my brother's troubles, it wouldn't be fair. you got it then and i appreciate you understanding. now, today there are stories out there about me offering my brother advice