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support of 63 republicans, including one senator, josh hawley of missouri. hawley is supposed to be a legal scholar, and he says the bill turns the federal government into the speech police. that, it gives government sweeping authority to decide what counts as offensive speech. and then, monitor it. the problem is, they only do that after you hit someone because they were asian. thank you for watching. "don lemon tonight" starts right now. >> you know, a lot to say about that. someone, from where you grew up, and that is, queens, congresswoman grace ming, who introduced this bill. the president ended up signing. she is on this show, a little bit later and i think she has a few, choice words for josh hawley. >> there are two criticisms that don't make sense. one, it's not thought police. it's, you hit me, because i'm asian, and said things to that effect. the idea of a hate-crime bill is not new. and the issue of saying, well,
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just deal with it in the punishment. don't punish the speech. we, as a society, made a determination that, when you hit someone because of who or what they are, it matters. the second criticism is, which you should, like even less, okay, because it has no legitimacy. is chip roy, the republican, coming to hawley's aid and saying, well, you know, it takes away from the local police, the way to categorize incidents, and gives it to the doj. yeah. that's exactly what we need, because that's why abuse of force recording is such a problem, because if you leave it to the local police, if they don't believe in the designation. they don't want to highlight a problem. they won't. and you don't get uniform data. >> yeah. well, there is a lot to be said about that. and a lot to be said about the local police. and how they classify and qualify things, especially that video coming out. of -- or don't -- coming out of louisiana. and let me tell you. my mom has been, you know, i grew up in louisiana. my family is still there. my mom is outraged or -- i mean, it's outrage, obviously, in
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louisiana, but across the country. and we, first, played that video last night on the show. and i knew that it was going to boil up. and folks were going to start talk be talking about it. now, the family members are coming out. if you look at the video, we haven't seen all of it. there is 46 minutes of it. it's horrendous. wiping the hands off. there is blood everywhere. i hope i don't get effing aids, the cops are saying. i mean, the parts that we see, chris, it's just awful. >> one, it's a haunting reminder of what we saw with george floyd even though it happened years earlier. even the time on the ground is eerily similar. >> the anniversary. one year, coming up, for george floyd. two years for that. >> and as we all know, nine-plus minutes with george floyd. nine here. i'm not suggesting a pattern, except in this regard. george floyd was not a one off. the only thing that made it different was that it happened in broad daylight, where everybody could video it. mostly, it happens on body-camera videos. and now, we do see what we have to change, on one level,
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absolutely. body-cam video has to be released. >> it has to be on. >> it has to be because you make a show of cause that, releasing it to the public will, somehow, inhibit your investigation. and i don't know how that can, ever, be true about police. >> it's got to be on at all times and it's got to be released. transparency, transparency. thank you, sir. >> d lemon, i love you. >> i love you more. so let's get to it. this is don lemon tonight. thanks for joining us. as i said, you saw it here, first, last night. and now, we have this new details -- these new details. significant, new questions about a shocking story that we first reported to you on this program last night. a black man ronald greening died after being kicked, dragged, and tased by louisiana state troopers after a chase. his family, initially, they were told that he died in a car crash. now, i am going to talk to his mother in just a moment. you don't want to miss that.
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but i want you to look at the video. it's only being seen by the public, now. even though ronald greene died more than two years ago. "the associated press" released three segments of the original video, which it says, is 46-minutes long. cnn has neither reviewed, nor obtained, the original video. and it is unclear what occurred between, or before -- before or in between the video clips. as i said, 46 minutes. we have not seen all of it. so, this is one of those clips. and i wish i could say it's the last time that i'm going to have to warn you of something like this. but this video is very disturbing to watch. here it is. >> let me see your -- hands. come here. >> okay. okay. okay. okay. i'm scared.
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>> get out of the car! >> i'm scared! officer, i'm scared! >> like i said, that is incredibly disturbing. and there is more. leaked audio of a trooper talking about the violent arrest. this is from station in my hometown, wafb, in baton rouge. >> [ bleep ]. >> you saw the video. you heard the trooper. all of this raises some very serious questions about what happened to ronald greene. and what police said happened. we've been here, before. george floyd. breonna taylor. walter scott. over and over, black people have
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died at the hands of police. police, whose initial reports, didn't tell the real story. and we have only learned the truth, when the videos surfaced. so, i want you to stay with me, for my interview with ronald greene's mother. that'll happen, in just a moment. but, all of this is happening with some really important things that are happening in washington. republicans want to bury the truth of what happened in another violent incident, january 6th. when those violent trump-supporting rioters attacked the seat of our government. they want to throw what happened into the great, big memory hole, like the one in 1984. so let's put january 6th, 2021, right down there, too. that's what they want to do. a memory hole, where they'll never have to think about it, again. where they won't have to admit the truth that they're so afraid of a president -- a former president -- who was voted out of office six months ago.
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they don't even want to investigate the insurrection that could have killed them. more and more republican senators, rejecting the bill that passed the house, just-last night. the bill that would create an independent commission to get to the truth of what happened. now, they're all but certain to -- to filibuster even the debate in the senate. dooming the bill. kevin mccarthy telling cnn today, that he'd be willing to testify, if he were asked by an independent commission. >> would you be willing to testify about your conversation with donald trump on january 6th, if you were asked, by an outside commission? >> sure. >> you would? >> next question. >> next question. easy for him to say. easy for him to say that he'd answer the questions from the commission, when he's pretty-darn sure there's never going to be a commission. he tipped his hand when manu raju asked if he'd, also, be willing to testify before a select committee in the house. watch this. >> does that mean you would be willing to testify for a select committee in the house, too?
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>> there is no select committee in the house. >> there is one. >> i don't think a select committee's the proper way to go. >> well, then you should have gone with the other one. the hypocrisy is off the charts. remember, when kevin mccarthy said this? this was just one week after the deadly insurrection. >> the president bears responsibility for wednesday's attack on congress by mob rioters. he should have, immediately, denounced the mob when he saw what was unfolding. these facts require immediate action by president trump. accept his share of responsibility, quell the brewing unrest, and ensure president-elect biden is able to successfully begin his term. and the president's immediate action, also, deserves congressional action, which is why i think a fact-finding commission and a censure resolution would be prudent.
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>> so, did ya hear that? i would play it, again, but i'm just going to repeat what he said. he said, a fact-finding commission would be prudent. now, not so much. i guess, all it took was, you know, the disgraced, twice-impeached, one-term, former president reading him the riot act. and a groveling visit to mar-a-lago. and how about senator john cornyn, who, just weeks after the insurrection, tweeted that he agreed with the house speaker nancy pelosi that a 9/11-type investigation is called for to help prevent an attack on the capitol from happening, again. he must have forgotten. even though he put it in writing. because now, he is accusing the house speaker of pushing the investigation, just to help democrats' chance of keeping control of congress. saying this, now. >> that would be the democrats'
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dream. i generally don't try to help democrats. >> senator rob portman apparently just hasn't gotten around to reading the bill. >> i mean, i want -- i want to see what -- what the scope is. i don't know if that's something that's been laid out, yet. and -- >> it's not -- it's a very short bill. i mean, you can read it in, like, two minutes. especially you. especially you. you read tax bills. this is easy. >> it's just so easy for them, and they do it with a straight face. they think you're dumb. they think you're stupid. but, does it matter? will they face any repercussions? that's really up to you. because, you remember, when their favorite excuse was they -- they hadn't read the former guy's tweets? now, they don't have time to read the bill, which is their job.
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they're supposed to read the bills. that's the whole point of them. and then, there's ron johnson. of course, ron johnson, who never tires of lying and denying. still, after everything we saw, w with our own eyes, and heard with our own ears, still trying to sell the lie that what happened on january 6th was a peaceful protest. >> by and large, it was -- it was all -- it was peaceful protest, except for, there were a number of people, basically, agitators, with the crowd. and breached the capitol. and, you know, that's really the truth of what's happening here. >> can you believe that? except for just a few people. do we have any video anywhere of the -- can we show some of what happened? just a few people. we have it rolled. that -- look.
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just a few. just a, you know -- just a couple rowdy -- just some rowdy people. come on, man. come on, republicans. just lying and denying. lying and denying republicans. just like the republicans trying to bury the truth of what happened. comparing blood-thirsty rioters to tourists calling them peaceful patriots trying to head off the january-6th commission, before it's even begun. like i said, they are trying to throw the truth of what happened into a big, old memory hole, so they never have to think about it again. republicans, like kevin mccarthy, mitch mcconnell, care about saving their political skins. more about that, than they do about the insurrection that could have killed them. thank you, ellie, for doing that, by the way. look. if you can't get republicans to cooperate on this, when they, themselves, were targeted by blood-thirsty rioters. when they could have died, that
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day. then, they -- you know, look. when they saw the gallows. when they heard the trump-supporting rioters chanting about the vice president, hang mike pence. >> hang mike pence! hang mike pence! >> if you didn't get them to work with you on this, why did president biden think that he can get cooperation on infrastructure? or anything? the president signing the anti-asian hate crimes bill, today. a bill, 62 house republicans opposed. seriously. seriously. an anti-hate bill, they opposed. if you won't stand against hate crimes, how are you going to get them to cooperate on anything, at all? >> i believe, with every fiber in my being, that there are
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simple, core values and beliefs that should bring us together america -- as americans. one of them is standing together against hate. against racism. the ugly poison that has long haunted and plagued our nation. today, i can say that, because of all of you, many of you sitting right in front of me. you've taken that first step. it's an important step. >> i can't wait to hear and i know you can, too. one of the congresswomen who introduced the bill a little bit later on in the show. also in, a moment, i am going to speak to the mother of ronald greene. ronald greene was killed during an encounter with louisiana state troopers. that was two years ago. aw saw the story. it was first on cnn on "don lemon tonight." that was last night. and i want you all to see what happened to him on police body-cam video. only, being made public, now. and i have a warning for you, again, it is difficult to watch. tonight, cnn's ryan young.
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>> reporter: the video seen by the public, for the first time, in about-two years since the deadly encounter between ronald greene and louisiana state police officers. after a high-speed chase led to a deadly confrontation, just outside the city of monroe in may of 2019. greene's family says the police, initially, told them the 49-year-old died in a car crash. state police said he was taken into custody, after resisting arrest. greene became unresponsive, shortly after. and died on his way to the hospital. but, new video reveals a more disturbing confrontation. and body-cam video, obtained by "the associated press," troopers can be seen repeatedly punching greene, after appearing to drag him out of his vehicle. >> taser, taser, taser. >> reporter: troopers tase greene multiple times while he is face down on the ground, as they attempt to handcuff him. another trooper appears to kick greene.
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"the associated press" released three segments of the original video, which it says is 46-minutes long. only two of the video clips have audio. cnn has never reviewed, or obtained, the original video, and it's unclear what occurred before or in between the video clips. the 2019 state-police report says, officers attempted to pull greene over for unspecified-traffic violation. greene's mother says, two investigator officers wouldn't tell her why law enforcement was chasing greene. hardin says a lack of transparency, on behalf of authorities, has been painful. >> i am so pissed but i'm a good pissed because we are going to get results. >> reporter: "the associated press" reports no time on the video can troopers be seen trying to render medical aid to greene. and according to "the associated press," was face down, and moaning for more-than-nine minutes. >> [ bleep ] you better not move. >> reporter: two of the officers continue to be employed by the department.
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both were reprimanded for their actions that night. one faced a 50-hour suspension for manipulating their body-camera equipment. the other, placed on administrative leave for an unrelated incident. a third officer died in a single-car crash accident last year. for now, greene's mother continues to fight for her son. >> they beat him. with the purpose of letting him just die. >> don, the family is saying, again, they are happy this video was released to the ap. this video was leaked by the way. there is still 46 minutes of video we haven't seen, just yet. and we haven't had a chance to talk to investigators or anyone who is involved in the law-enforcement arm to ask them specific questions about this case. don, you and i have covered so many cases like this. seems like almost-every month. but this stands out. and one of the reasons why is the conversation is always about transparency. if you think about it, we are talking about two years, now, after the date of this. it's very hard for the family to
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bear and there's so many questions that need to be answered. especially, when it comes to what's going to happen to these officers, in the future. don. >> right on. ryan, thank you very much. i appreciate that. we have got a lot more to come, on all of this. next, i am going to speak with ronald greene's mother. mona hardin. and the family's attorney. live. hooh. that spin class was brutal. well you can try using the buick's massaging seat. oohh yeah, that's nice. can i use apple carplay to put some music on? sure, it's wireless. pick something we all like. ok. hold on. what's your buick's wi-fi password? “buickenvision2021.” oh, you should pick something stronger. that's really predictable. that's a really tight spot. don't worry. i used to hate parallel parking. [all together] me too. - hey. - you really outdid yourself. yes, we did. the all-new buick envision. an suv built around you... all of you.
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seen by the be ppublic now. and it shows greene being tased, kicked, and dragged by the officers. ronald greene's mother, mona hardin, is here. also, joining, lee merritt, attorney for greene's family. i am so happy to have both of you on. thank you so much. and ms. hardin, let me just say, i'm sorry for your loss. thank you for joining us. yeah. >> thank you. i appreciate it. >> your son -- you know, to see your son tased, kicked, dragged, in this body-cam video. no mention of troopers using force, in the initial state police crash report. it's got to be incredibly painful to watch this, over and over. tell us what you're feeling. >> it is. it is. the last couple days, i'm pretty proud of myself. i thought i'd go into just oblivion with my thoughts. but my son is here with me. and i'm feeling really saddened. really -- but i'm so glad that
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other folks out there are able to see this. >> yeah. when did you realize what the police were telling you about your son's death didn't really match up to what really happened? >> it was within the -- well, we first heard the news, two or three days after we got there. and at that time, they told us that ronnie was in a high-speed chase. car crashed to a tree and he went through the windshield. died of head injuries. but, right before then, we found out that, through the coroner, we learned at the time, she told us that ronnie was being taken out of state for his autopsy. and it was right then and there, that we saw that it was going to be, basically, a cat-and-mouse game. they were running us all over the place, and there was nothing i could do to stop him from being taken for -- for his autopsy. >> you knew, then, that
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something wasn't right. lee, i want to bring you in here, but just because again, a legal matter. she says, you know, that she was told gone through the windshield. i mean, that's not what's portrayed on the tape but i have to be clear. "the ap" obtained, associated press obtained this body-cam video. was not released by police. but you -- you have been shown, i understand, what happened before. the entire video. what else is on that tape, that we don't see, lee? >> well, pieces of evidence have been leaking out, probably for the last-two years. it took us almost a year and a half to see the video for the first time. only after a video/audio recording of one of the troopers bragging about beating ron to death was leaked out by someone within the louisiana state trooper's office, since then. on that video, you hear ron, as you hear in the video, him begging. but what you don't see is the pepper spray. them washing the blood from their hands using bottles of water. and them, literally, bragging and smiling about what they were doing while -- while he was
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still there, writhing in pain. >> was -- were they actually told, you know, initially, told that he had gone through the windshield and died of a head injury? >> that's what the family was, ini initially, told. that he had died from a head-on collision with a tree and -- and because of brain damage, as a result of the collision. >> wow. miss -- ms. hardin, "the associated press" reports that, at no time, can troopers be seen rendering any-medical aid while your son was face down moaning for more-than-nine minutes. do you think those officers saw your son as a human being? >> oh, no. you could see that they cared less. that was the most horrific part to see what was done to ronnie. what they did to him and they allowed him to just, slowly, die on the spot. behind all that they did to him. and just continued on to walk around him, in spite of him
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taking his last breaths. that was hard to watch. >> it's hard to watch. but the last two years, for you, what's that been like? >> we -- we've -- we've not processed any of this. because of the fact that i haven't processed that my son is -- what happened to him. none of this is really -- if there's even such a way of properly processing. but what i can say is the fact that we're moving forward with this. what needs to be done all the officers' names. needs to go to jail. they just need to pay whatever price it is, the highest. because what i saw done to my son was murder. >> what do you have -- because there are -- we have seen -- we saw the floyd family go through this. breonna taylor's family. and many, other families go through -- through this. what do you say, to america,
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about the pain or the experience of having to -- to live through, to suffer through, something like this? >> what i say to america is, we were once a family on the outside, looking in. and it's unbelievable. the -- the darkness that you walk through trying to shuffle through and try to make someone listen to you. it's -- it's so painful. it's -- it's unbelievable. when you become a statistic, yourself, you just start living your life totally different. the life you knew before, no longer exists. >> you -- you've watched -- you have watched the videos that are -- that have been released, right? >> yes. >> do you intend to watch the entire video, if it's released? can you? >> at this time, i've not been able to. i -- i saw last year's.
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and upon my approval, i decided not to see all of it. because of how horrendous it is. upon the release of this, the other day, i had to break away from it. i -- i -- i have to stay focused. the anger that i have. the anxiety. it's gripping. and i don't want to go through that. i have to stay focused because what these guys did to my son and the coverup that pursued and ensued behind all that. it's -- someone has to stay focused and my family will. what they did to ronnie, they have to pay the penalties. >> you are a strong mom. you're a strong mama. lee, speaking of that video. do you know when the rest of it will be released? or if it'll be released?
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>> the louisiana state troopers responded to the release of the video by complaining that -- that the release -- the leak would somehow interfere with their investigation. the administration -- administrative process is already complete. one officer received a 50-hour suspension. another officer was terminated and died the same day he was terminated. seems that their investigation, if there was any, legitimate investigation, in the first place, is complete. so, it doesn't appear that they have any, real intent to release that video. however, because there is an ongoing-federal investigation, and we expect that case to go to a grand jury, soon. we are looking forward to indictments being forthcoming. and hopefully, all of this coming to light. it's, certainly, a part of -- of our discovery file in our federal civil rights claim. >> yeah. you mentioned the officer, after the -- the -- the fatal incident, an officer was involved -- one of the officers involved said police told them he died -- well, he died, i should say, in a crash when he -- the day he was fired. he died in an auto crash,
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himself. i see you wanting to jump in, ms. hardin. what do you want to say about your son? because i know ronald had battled cancer for two years. had recently entered remission, before his death. what do you want people to know about your son? >> yeah. he did that proudly. i am going to miss his valor. his -- his -- his undeniable we got this. one of his favorite sayings is we are winning. and even times, when me and him had mom-and-son discussions. and i was pretty down. he says, ma, he says you're not looking at it the way you should look at it. i will miss that. i will miss that about him. we had really good conversations. we always laughed. we always -- it was good times. and he -- he was taken from us, way too soon. >> what do you say to the police? >> shame on you. shame on all of you. for the fact that the corruption
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and -- and that you are allowed to continue to hide. and just the fact that, when we were there, we were lied to, in our faces. and they allowed us to continue to go our ways knowing that nothing was going to be done. that deceit. we already know what the state troopers' done. but on all those above them, that's -- that's really painful. the -- the -- these are people who hold high office. and it's -- it's degrading. it's shame on the state of louisiana. these are the people you are proud of to hold office? >> yeah. ms. hardin, thank you, so much. i admire your strength. and again, i'm so sorry for what happened. we appreciate you coming on. and, of course, lee, thank you, as well. we will keep updated on this. thank you very much. >> thank you. thank you so much. it is looking bleak for the january-6th commission as
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new, tonight. more and more gop senators making clear to cnn that they will vote to prevent debate from even starting on the senate floor over the january-6th commission. are republicans afraid of finding out the truth? sure, seems like it. let's discuss now. matthew dowd is here. he is the former chief strategist for president george w. bush. matthew, thank you. good to see you, again. so, look. >> you, too, don. >> seems like mitch mcconnell and the republicans, like they are going to do whatever it takes to keep bad facts from coming out. they don't care if they look like hypocrites. they don't care about democracy. what do they care about? >> their own, political power in the -- in the course of this. i mean, that's fundamentally what we've seen for the last four or five years, out of the republican party and most the people in the republican party. there's not a -- like -- there's not a servant leader among them. there is not a single-servant leader that i can see among the crop of leadership in the republican party today. it is all about retaining or getting political power.
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and it's not in service -- i mean, it's okay to pursue political power, as many politicians and candidates do. but it's, usually, in service of a greater purpose or a greater cause. there is no-greater cause or greater purpose. >> the former guy is bashing the 35-house republicans, who voted for that commission. calling them weak and threatening consequences. bottom line is that republicans -- what -- what do they fear the most here? >> well, you know, it's fascinating. i think, sometimes, i mean, obviously, donald trump is basically, in my mind, a placeholder for what he represents. the republican party is wholesale, now, that donald trump brand, the party that doesn't believe in truth. i mean, i saw a poll, the other day. tells you what the republican party has become. and it's not fully about donald trump. donald trump's positive rating among republican voters is 82 positive, 16 negative. and it didn't drop, at all, after january 6th. liz cheney's favorability rating, among republican voters,
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is 13 positive, 59 negative. think about that. >> uh-huh. >> and so, the idea that people, like mitt romney and adam kinzinger and liz cheney, somehow, think there is a part of the republican party that they can represent, and they can fight through it, is just gone. it's -- it has become the party of anti-truth, anti-facts, anti-science. anti-sort of what we consider democratic institutions and i think what they are is they are afraid of what their -- what their own base has become. they caused it to become that because they have lied to their base for so many years and allowed it to happen. but now, they are dealing with the monster they created. >> was -- so, the republican party was -- was about smaller government. lower taxes. >> long time ago. >> yeah. yeah. yeah. fiscal responsibility. controlling the debt and deficit. but, none of that happened, over the last-five years. it's, all, been sort of owning -- not sort of -- owning
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the libs and not really about any sort of policy, at all. what happened? >> it -- you know, don, it's become a cultural-grievance party and that's all it is. it's a cultural-grievance party, really inhabited by a large amount of white supremacists and people that believe that the changing nature of the demographics of the country is a bad thing. and they don't fundamentally, in my view, they don't fundamentally believe that all men and women are created equal. and so, as the country has changed, the republican party became more and more and more akin to the know-nothing party in the mid-1800s and that's what they have become because they don't like the change. they don't like african-americans in power or latinos in power. or asians in power. or women in power. all of those things, have caused a great fear among them, and understandably because they are going to lose a place -- their -- their valued place in
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society that they've always held. and they're going to have to share that place with a whole group of other people, that don't look like them. that, to me, is what's at the fundamental nature of this. donald trump was the first to recognize that. that, that was brewing and that was growing in the party. and which is why when he came down that escalator, republican party -- people in the republican party responded to him. the voters did. he recognized that, first. he didn't cause it. he recognized it. >> it's interesting, that you said what you said because, look. listen. i can speak for me. and i also see it with other -- with other people as well but let me just speak for me. anytime there is criticism, i find, of myself, when i do run across it sometimes. it's usually just steeped in homophobia. and so much homophobia and racism, that it's laughable, that i don't see how anybody can take it seriously. if -- if someone wanted to -- for me to take the criticism that they have of me seriously. then, why so much homophobia?
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why so much racism? why not, on policy? why not on just something i said? debate that, without throwing in the isms and the bigotry and the hatred. do you understand what i am saying, matthew? >> no. i -- i think you're exactly right. and the fascinating thing, to me, is i looked at something, the other day. and so, white-male, heterosexual christians, are less than 30% of the population in the united states. white-male, heterosexual christians are less than 30%. they are almost 25%. less than 30%. white-male heterosexual christians represent 80% of the leadership of our economy, of our politics, and of our media. so, think about that. they represent less than a third of the country. but they represent more than two-thirds of what's in leadership. and the fascinating thing is nobody's saying, well, you only get 30%. for some reason, there's a group of people that don't like the idea that they've moved, from 90% of the leadership positions
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of the country, to 80. and they may move to 75. that's what it is about. and i think, don, it's important to keep in mind. this is something in our history. ever -- every time, somebody else tries to exert power that doesn't look like what people think america should look like, we have had this pushback. it happened with the chinese exclusion act. it happened with immigration quotas set up in the 1920s. it happened after women got the right to vote. it happened after gay marriage was allowed. it happened after civil rights. every time, there's been a movement for our politics to represent what the country looks like, there's been a pushback, to stop it. what's different, today, don, is that we have an entire-political party that occupies that space. we've never had that, before. one-political party occupies that space of a pushback against diversity of the country. >> matthew dowd, thank you very much, sir. i will see ya soon. appreciate it. >> thanks, don. and speaking of. a claim journalist nicole hanna
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take this. one of the most distinguished journalists in america, denied tenure for her upcoming position at the university of north carolina school of journalism. and it looks like it's due to her work on "the new york times" magazine's 1619 project. a groundbreaking work examining the legacy of slavery in america. which has drawn the wrath of conservatives, some of whom have criticized the project as propaganda. nikole hannah-jones won a pulitzer prize for commentary for the 1619 project. she is also the recipient of mcarthur found addation genius t and earned a masters degree from the university in 2003. last month, unc announced
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hannah-jones would occupy the night chair and race in investigative journalism beginning in july. the two-previous holders of the chair were tenured professors, and it was expected hannah-jones would be granted tenure as well. but the university board of trustees has denied it. even though, tenure was recommended by the school of journalism. instead, it's offering her a five-year contract with an option for review, down the line. it's important to note, the board is controlled by north carolina's state legislature, which, in turn, is controlled by republicans. and many are unhappy with the 1619 project. dozens of faculty members of the journal iz am school posting an online statement saying they are stunned at the board's decision. the journalism school's dean says that, while she is disappointed at the failure to grant tenure. she has no doubt hannah-jones will be a star-faculty member. we'll continue to follow. prince william slamming the
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mother. prince harry also speaking out. please tell us what are they saying? >> reporter: well, this really was a defining interview, wasn't it, for princess diana. it gave us an insight into her state of mind in that last couple years before she died. so harry and william particularly, i think, as far as i'm aware, have always been very uncomfortable with this interview and it being out there and constantly replayed. let's hear what prince william said today as a result of the findings in this report. >> it brings indescribable sadness to know that the bbc's failures contributed significantly to her fear, paranoia, and isolation that i remember from those final years with her. but what saddens me most is that if the bbc had properly investigated the complaints and concerns first raised in 1995, my mother would have known that she'd been deceived. she was failed not just by a rogue reporter but by leaders of
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the bbc who looked the other way rather than asking the tough questions. >> and prince harry also adding in a separate statement what deeply concerns him is practices like these and even worse are still widespread today and that we haven't learned the lessons, he thinks. >> max, you know, it has been a quarter of a century since this interview. it was a bombshell when it came out. tell us more about why -- why was this so controversial? you said the royal family and especially the sons, they're concerned about this being out there. they've been uncomfortable with it. why was it so controversial? >> reporter: well, we've never really seen a royal speak like this and, the accusations were huge. she spoke about bulibulimia, an course there was that comment about the affair.
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>> do you think ms. parker bowle serks was a factor in the breakdown of your marriage? >> well, there were three of us in this marriage, so it was a bit crowded. >> reporter: so that was always the headline, wasn't it? i mean after that interview, it was so profound really, the effect of it. the queen wrote to charles and diana and approved a divorce. so diana would no longer become queen. this is the future of the british monarchy taking shape in a completely different way as a result of this interview, and it was based on a fundamental deception from martin bashir according to this report, that he convinced diana really that she was being undermined by the people around her. and it seems that that is what defined the way she lived in the last two years of her life. i have to say charles spencer said one of the most profound things today, which was he saw a direct link between this interview and diana's death. the bbc director general today
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saying it's a very dark day for the bbc. >> max foster, our royal correspondent, thank you very much. appreciate that. republicans lining up one after another and pushing the truth completely aside. what they're doing to avoid the january 6th commission getting further and further from reality.
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