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islamic base and muslims. they all hope with that peace or the cease-fire in the middle east that tensions will go down here as well. >> miguel marquez for that disturbing information. indeed to our viewers, thank you for watching. i am wolf blitzer in the situation room. erin burnett "outfront" starts right now. "out front" next, a sham election audit is underway. more states looking to follow arizona's lead. breaking news, louisiana state police announcing they'll release all the videos surrounding the death of ronald greene. this is new body cam video showing him pushed to the ground. president biden asking assistance of ufos, you will see
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what happens. let's go "outfront." good evening, i am erin burnett. on the road again, the matt gaetz and marjorie taylor greene. matt gaetz who's under investigation by the fbi for among other things allegedly having sex with under age girls. we have new reporting on that investigation in a moment. gaetz is out on the road joining forces with marjorie taylor greene and they are spreading trump's words in mesa, arizona, this evening. there are already two audits of this county's election results and guess what? they show the same results. that did not stop greene and gaetz showing up to voice their
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support. they are two of the biggest and most visual leaders of trump's big lie. the first stop of their tour. just listen to them. >> tell me who is your president? >> that's my president here. did anybody here vote for joe biden? do you guys think you won? >> our elections must have integrity, we have never abandon trump, we'll continue to fight for us and we'll have his fact when he does. we support the great patriots in georgia and florida and all across this country, protecting the integrity of the vote. that's going to be a major part of this tour that marjorie and i
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bringing across the country demanding voter integrity. >> it is a tour. people going to these events are believing it. listen to one person, what they told our reporter. >> reporter: you believe the election is stolen. if you believe that's true -- is that horrible? >> yes, it is horrible. >> is it horrible that we would be in this situation to even think that? >> reporter: but it is false. >> no, it is not. why would they have that ballots hidden under tables? why did that man drive that truck all the way across state line? >> reporter: that's all proven to be false. >> it has not, i watched it on
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tv. >> that woman repeated lies she's been told. the maricopa's board of supervisors condemned this audit. four of the five members of that board are republicans. the board writing, quote, "it is time to end this for the good of the country and democratic institutions that define us as americans." another top official in arizona who calls trump's lies unhinged told me now these lies bmust be called out. >> it has to stop, it has been a rude awakening into politics. >> more states may be following arizona's lead.
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those reviews upheld the election results which is joe biden won georgia. that did not stop donald trump pushing for audits in arizona and other states just the other day. >> let's see what they find. i would not be surprise if they find thousands and thousands of votes. we'll watch it closely. you will watch pennsylvania and michigan and wisconsin and you are watching new hampshire, a lot of votes up in new hampshire. t it is a rigged election. >> you are thinking was that from november? no, that was from april 28th, still the same stuff and people still believe it. kyung la, that building is not
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non-description but it is functioning. ground zero for arizona. >> reporter: yeah, this is right over my shoulders and this is where the arizona battle that are being fought and ballots being stored inside there and they are on the move this weekend. make no mistake about this. the battle may be here today, it is spreading across the country. >> reporter: you can connect the dots here. a right wing gubernatorial candidate in georgia. >> i find myself troubled by the recent findings in arizona. >> reporter: the exact words of arizona-style audit being thrown around. >> yes, we are hearing that. >> reporter: i am talking to you in a parking lot and you are
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saying what we are seeing here is also there. >> what we are seeing in arizona is this high-water mark. >> reporter: benson says arizona is the next chapter of the big lie is being written. that lie of the 2020 election was stolen from donald trump certa cer centers on what you are seeing. these trailers mhold 20 million ballots. while in store now, a so-called audit of these ballots run by the republican control arizona senate and little known contractor cyber ninjas will restart this weekend after ballots are moved back onto the floor. we have seen workers used uv lights on ballots, chasing a qanon conspiracy of a secret watermark.
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it is also dangerous. >> reporter: are you guys the peachtree dish for what's going to be the play book? >> absolutely. we see the videos from other states where they are demanding an arizona-style audit. >> it is a proxy war playing out nationally. we are experiencing democracy here in arizona. >> reporter: they are speaking out against their own state's party leadership as they watch trump's loyalists like lewandowski questioning the votes. >> how could we not be counting the presidential race in this election. >> reporter: they're urging states and national to fight back with the truth. >> you have seen the polls of what republican voters believed. have you already lost? >> the answer is not. >> we start to have voices of viis saying joe biden was elected president, he won, we are not moving, we are not going to do this any longer, we are
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not going to have arizona-style so-called audits and other states. you will see those numbers start to change. >> reporter: we are getting late notice tonight, erin, the republican-led supervisor planned to go beyond words. they issued a letter saying "save your documents, it is a w warning shot basically saying see you in court." >> thank you, kyung lah. >> when you hear your congressman matt gaetz and congresswoman taylor greene going out in arizona where kyung just filed those reports for perpetuating the lies, how do you convince people that you are telling the truth?
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how are you convincing them that you are telling the truth and their leadership is lying to them. >> we are again reminding them that donald trump, chief election security officer responsible for all the elections in this country said this was the most secure election in american history. the states certified the election results, led by republicans and certified them on multiplications. what we really need is our republican colleagues to speak up. it is time for them to acknowledge that this is a lie. this was promoted by the president even before the election happened and continues to be promoted by the president. it led to the bloody violent insurrection on january 6th. we need republicans to acknowledge that joe biden is the president of the united states, he won the election fair and square. they need to hear from people in
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the republican party, instead we have people like matt gaetz and other republicans continue to give lights to this prosperous lie that the sore loser donald trump is continuing. >> what are you thinking the fact that we are seeing arizona, the board, election board, they're standing up, five members, four of them republicans. i spoke to one of them and he's speaking out and what trump is doing is unhinged. they're doing it. we are seeing it in other states. some local republicans speaking out whether it is georgia or in pennsylvania, right? we are not seeing it at the national level. we are just not seeing it. why do you think that is? there is such a courage to tell the truth by people who are in your seat with an r in front of
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their name? >> i think the sad reality is these are people who believe in order to win a republican pri primary, they need to have the support of donald trump. they are basically willing to force sake their responsibility to protect our democracy to speak the truth or hold onto their jobs and it is shameful. we need more republicans to speak up and tell the truth. i am grateful for republicans that's now doing it. it is a little late. i suppose it is better late than never. there are silence and supporting this claim led to five deaths, a lot of destructions to 140 capitol police officers injured and attack on our democracy on january 6th. this lie keeps getting promoted by the former president but republican colleagues in congress who give it legitimacy
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when they know it is not true. it is a lie and if you repeat it often enough people lebelieve i. >> he voted not to certify on january 6th, specifically because of two states, arizona and pennsylvania, i always said biden was a legitimate winner. he stands by that vote on that day and here is how he explained it. >> i have no regrets on that day. i didn't think he incited the event that happened. i saw people in my hotel room that they're going to do something at 2:00 and that happened at 9:00 in the morning. >> they did alert the capitol police as well as the fbi,
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10:00 a.m. on january 6th. are you surprised by the congressman's comment and by someone's ability to standby and not certifying the election at the same time they said they want a commission, they do support the commission against mccarthy and trump into that day? >> i hope it is because they recognize that it is important that the american people know all the facts that led up to the events of january 6th that it is important to get the bipartisan vote. the american people are entitled to know all the circumstances surrounding the bloody attack of our democracy of the war of 1812. i think she and adam kinziger are causing other republicans, they need to speak up and put an
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end to this monstrous lie. ill while they are doing all this, we are busy working on the american jobs plan and responding to the urgent needs of the american people. they're a mess, the republican party. they're doing real damage to our democracy by promoting and advancing the ongoing lies that donald trump began. >> congressman, i appreciate you. >> my pleasure. matt gaetz's ex-girlfriend is cooperating with investigators who are looking into allegations that he had sex with an under age girl. louisiana state police announced they'll plan to release all the videos surrounding the death of greene. there is new video showing something different, troopers pinning him to the ground. >
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breaking news, matt gaetz's ex-girlfriend is corroborating with investigators. the woman is crucial as a witness because she was linked to gaetz during a key period of time. we are learning greenberg, a close friend of gaetz that gaetz and two other men had sexual contact with a 17-years-old girl. paula reid is out front. what can you tell me about this ex-girlfriend? >> this woman, a formal capitol hill staffer who did not work for the congressman, she was linked to the congressman in the summer of 2017. that was the time period that's critical in the investigation into whether he may have had sex with an under age girl. the fact that she is now cooperating is significant.
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the congressman is being investigated for possible leviuley for violating sex trafficking. now it is not clear whether this woman has a formal cooperation agreement. her attorney declined to comment. >> paula, i know you are also learning as part of his plea agreement which is so crucial in all of this, mr. greenberg that she' he's starting to tell them what he knows. he knows a lot. what is he saying? >> joel greenberg told invest gators that the lawmaker had sexual contact with that
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17-y 17-y 17-years-old girl. he's cooperating with federal investigators in exchange of dozen accounts of him being dropped. in his plea agreement, greenberg admits he had sex with a minor at least seven times and he introduced her to other men who engaged in commercial sex acts with her. other men were not named in the plea gragreement. greenberg admitted in the same agreement to falsely accusing a political rival of having sex with a minor. it is a decision that'll take some time as they are continuing to gather evidence, they have to look at everything and decide if they have enough to proceed with
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an indictment. >> paula, thank you very much. >> cnn obtaining more chilly cam video of ronald greene's encounter with police and it is fuelling new allegations of stunning cover up. biden is responding to obama's comment about ufos. >> he says we don't know what they are. what do you think it is? >> i would ask him again. you need an ecolab scientific clean here. and you need it here. and here. and here. which is why the scientific expertise that helps operating rooms stay clean is now helping the places you go every day too. seek a commitment to clean. look for the ecolab science certified seal.
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i warn you some footage is difficult to watch. brian young is outside. or >> reporter: ronald greene's last moment in 2018. >> why did you run? >> reporter: the video shows a supervisor officer arriving on the scene and engaging with other officers while greene was cuffed on the ground and faced down. after early video shows him being beaten and tased, greene had resisted arrest after attempted the pull him over. >> don't you turn over, lay on your belly. lay on your belly! >> yes, sir. okay, okay, sir. >> reporter: in the video we hear green in distress as he continues to be restrained by officers. minutes after the supervisor engaged with officers, medical
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aid is rendered by emergency personnel on-site for the first time. greene appears to be unresponse s unresponsive . >> it takes three to take them down. >> reporter: attorney for the greene's family says the state police respond was outrageous. >> he showed up on the scene and he did not acknowledge greene on the ground. >> this has been a cover up from the moment it happened. he was killed and murdered. >> reporter: state officials tell cnn that louisiana state police were investigating ronald greene's death as a criminal matter of the same night of the incident. a third officer died in a single car crash last year. autopsy reported listed the cause of death of cocaine
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induced and physical struggles, and restrain. no reports were provided and detailed information of the car cr crash. >> they were left in the dark and stone walled by the state police which is another policy shows how systematic this is. >> reporter: the report states lacerations on greene's head were inconsistent of the motor vehicle injuries and most consisted of multiple impact from a blunt object. >> reporter: erin, this video is tougher and tougher to watch. you understand why the family is in so much pain. i will tell you though because of these leaks really has the whole country talking about in this case. it is good to see the state authority is talking about releasing all the videos. the sources proved the video to
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me wanted to make sure this gets out into the light and this investigation finally stop being on pause. two years is a long time obviously and one argument was made each day, it is not like new investigators' files will be found. they want to hold somebody accountable. >> thank you, ryan. my next guest with the greene's family. >> they have seen the body in the dashcam and they continue to turn around and they continue to let my family and other families go through hell and they know it is wrong. they completely tried to squash
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it. we need to get things moving here. "outfront," the director of louisiana, you saw her there with ronald greene's mother. i appreciate you being here with me, i want to get to your role in a moment because it is important. >> the louisiana state police is now saying all evidence of the encounter will be released tonight. everyone will get to see it. obviously this is two years after it happened but they'll put it all out tonight. this is something you have been demanding. what's your reaction? >> thank you for having me. my reaction is justice is denied. this video should have been released long ago and while i appreciate that law enforcement now is under the pressure of the associated press and the free press which we should be incredibly grateful for it in this country. under that pressure that they are now interested in releasing the video. i have many questions of the
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integrity behind that decision and we have further to go, this is merely the tip of the iceberg with rineegard of the behavior conduct of the state police. >> he admits he saw the entire video last fall. he saw it all last fall but he's only now saying anything about this because now it is becoming public. are you disappointed that the governor only pushed for the release of the video after the whole thing became public? >> i think every louisianans' hearts break tonoiitonight.
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i believe our elected leaders to represent their constituencycon. i think when that happens, we have to believe that there must be federal over site or other mechanism ensuring this does not happen. >> we are learning state investigators confirmed that they were looking into greene's death as a criminal matter from day one. they were investigating this from day one even though greene's family told them he died after crashing into a tree and they got the impression it was done and sealed and delivered. they were looking at it as a criminal issue on day one. how do you square that circle of them saying that and the family being told as something else. do you think the word cover up
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are kaccurate? >> i think there was concealing of evidence and obviously video gra graphics from the beginning. i think the family was misled and police officers violated mr. greene and their family's constitutional rights and they're not able to police themselves. that's why we should not be relying on any individual elected leaders because we have to remember that politics is always at play. if we want truth and equality and we want this integrity in this case, we have to have an investigation from top to bottom that does not involve political actors. people who seek to solely learn what happened on that night and how to adjudicate the crimes that were committed. if we can do that, the louisiana aclu is in the process of
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prosecuting racist policing with 11 federal police suits that we filed and we have our eyes on louisiana state police, that's the way you get to the bottom of this so you don't have fingers pointing at each other. >> thank you very much. i appreciate it. >> thank you. the next ted cruz tweeting russian propaganda to mock this ad about an army corporal. >> after meeting with the army recruiter, i found it. a way to prove my inner strength. >> tonight that woman's family respond in a chilling story. a man executed for a murder he insisted he did not commit. after his execution, he's dead. the attorney found another person's dna on the murder weapon.
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write down phone numbers for your parents, siblings and neighbors. pick a place to meet your family if you are not together and can't go home. remind your parents to pack an emergency supply kit. making a plan might feel like homework, but it will help you and your family stay safe during an emergency. breaking news, president biden telling our kaitlan collins it"it is simply wrong t seize reporters' records after trump admin targeted cnn's barbara star." >> should the government be seizing reporters' e-mails?
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>> absolutely wrong. it is simply wrong. >> reporter: you won't let your justice department do that? >> i won't let it happen. >> kaitlan collins is "outfront ". so a clear message that president biden believe it is not okay. >> reporter: this is a huge break and not just his predecessor and former president trump but also former president obama. it is notable because the white house had been asked about this at a briefing earlier today, they have not made this announcement where it is going to be a new policy where they're not going to seize records of reporters where it is phone and e-mails which we now know happens under the trump administration justice department to our colleague bar barbara star. we know it was approved and we believe under attorney general bill barr in the later days of
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the trump administration but erin, this is notable. it is a huge break from how the justice department had be operating before. often you saw federal prosecutors and investigators say that was a last step they took in trying to figure out the source of potentially classified information depending on which circumstances it is. to go after the record and reporters and so far the justice department has not comment on this. president biden was unequivocal there when i asked him as he was leaving the room earlier today. he feels it is wrong and they will not be doing that. >> all right, of course, that's a word you must keep. kaitlan, thank you very much. >> there is growing outrage, republican senator ted cruz after he mocked an act tive memr of the u.s. army.
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it all started of this ad, telling the story of corthe corporal. >> it began in california with a little girl raised by two mom. with such role models, i finished at the top of my class. i found it. a way to prove my inner strength. i answered my calling. >> senator cruz tweeting "holy crap -- o"outfront" now, our former republican from virginia and abby phillips, the host of
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"inside politics" on sunday. congressman, what do you say to senator cruz mocking this corporal who this young woman is actively serving her country. >> i guess what's e emasculati and why would you make fun of or saying pansies or something like that when you are talking about an individual not only serving her country but she would also take a bullet for the flag. i think that's a thing that bothers a lot of veterans until you take the oath or put on the uniform, it is difficult to know t what that sacrifice means. to make fun of that and she's narrating that based on her life and she's serving this country, it is ridiculous. everybody wants to use these words to come out or say things
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t to the press or maybe ted cruz is trying to appeal to a certain group of people, that and showing a russian video, i can't get my arms around it. we had this discussion before and where this video comes from, why not show a video of the chinese or north korea or iran. those are some of the things that bothered me and i am bothered by it. >> abby, we obtained a statement from the corporal's mother. she's based in texas now and as the third most active member of the country. ted cruz is also in texas. senator cruz knows the importance of the military. he's a shrewd politician. it would seem that he's betting
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many in the military agreed of what he said and how he said it. >> at least he's betting of enough of what the military is saying. they are also in dire need of recruitment which is why videos like this exists because they are trying to recruit a broader spectrum of people so they can have a stronger military. i think everything that former congr congressman said is correct. ted cruz is trying to appeal to the new republican base which is non-college educated white men who are concerned that diversity is imposed on them. they also are attracted to politicians, you know, in the mold of donald trump who they perceived as being and saying things that are not pc. that's what ted cruz is doing. he thinks that's the path of getting voters attention and it is not so much about the
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military. it is more about trying to appeal to an increasingly powerful group of voters who constitute the republican base right now. >> abby, some conservatives are also attacking the recent ad from the cia which highlights one of their diverse officer. >> i am a woman of color, i am a mom, i am a millennial who was diagnosed with disorders. i am unapologetically me. i want you to be you, who ever you are. know your worth and command your space. >> so abby, this is clearly the criticism of that. republicans do think they can earn points right now attacking what they call the woke agaenda. >> it is also about pushing back against what that ad is about
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which is about a person who's herself, diverse, and that plays well in republican party politics right now. >> right. >> that's why it is happening. >> congressman, i want to ask you one other thing here, as you sit in virginia and you are a 15-year veteran of the u.s. air force. i don't know what you saw in your time there, there are so much talk about what some of your colleagues flying around in the sky everyday for two years. if people are really focused on the stories, there was an exchange that president biden had about ufos, former president obama you know kind of opening that door about ufos video. here is the exchange of president biden. >> president obama says that there is footage and records of objects in the skies. these unidentified areal phenomenon, he says we don't know what they are. what do you think?
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>> i would ask him again. thank you. >> the look on his face, congressman said it all. >> what do you make of all of this. i ask this in a serious sense because we seen it all in "60 minutes." what do you think? >> you know i wrote a book about this, erin. it is complicated when talked about ufos and theories because of how people get lost. i do believe there are ufos, i just don't believe there is aliens droiving them. they really don't want to be seen right now. i can say we have all seen zombs some bizarre things in our lives. i don't think the first thing
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when we hear weird noise in the woods is not bigfoot. i think we are okay and i think we are going to be all right. >> congressman, i appreciate your time. "outfront" next, he swore he was innocent with murder up until his execution. >> my dying words will always be as it has been, i am an innocent man. >> tonight new dna testing may prove that he was right. — they customize my car insurance so i only pay for what i need. 'cause i do things a bit differently. wet teddy bears! wet teddy bears here! only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ ♪
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it would be cool to ride a horse on the moon. tonight, was an innocent man put to death? four years after his execution, his attorney says another man's dna has been discovered on the martin savidge "is outfront". >> reporter: ladell lee stepped into the death chamber. he was strapedped to a gurn kne. he said nothing. his final words heard earlier in an interview with the bbc. >> my dying words will always be as it has been, i am an innocent
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man. >> reporter: lee spent 22 years on arkansas's death row never changing his story. >> to maintain innocence for over 20 years, i mean, that's something that i'm not familiar with. >> reporter: so he never confessed to you he committed the murder? >> not once. not even hinted at it. >> reporter: four years after his execution, new dna testing has raised serious questions about his case. lee's attorney got a call explaining the bi bindings. what did you think? >> i think the results had before he was executed, he would be alive. >> reporter: lee was sentenced to death for the murder of 26-year-old debra reese found strangled and clubbed to death in her home. prosecutors relied on eyewitnesss who testified seeing lee enter and leave reese's house the day during the crime. lee's family continued to investigate with the help of aclu and innocence project. recently, they were able to gain
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access to crucial evidence including the murder weapon and they did something that had never been done before, tested it for dna. what they found confirmed their fears. there was dna, but it belonged to someone else. and is yet an unidentified man. in a statement lee's sister simply said we're glad there is new evidence in the national dna data base and remain hopeful there will be further information uncovered in the future. we ask for privacy for our family in this difficult time. lee's family, the innocence project and the aclu turned down our request for an interview citing the on going investigation. why didn't lee's attorney get dna testing to stop his client's execution? did you ask for dna testing? >> we did with the assistance of the innocence project and it was denied. >> reporter: the judge herbert wright was among those who
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denied the test saying witnesses and other evidence tied lee to the murder so dna or the lack of it wasn't likely to make a difference. >> the judicial standard of review we look at is whether or not it was likely the and my decision was that it wasn't likely to change the verdict. >> reporter: you knew by saying that that you were pretty much saying the execution can go forward? >> i knew that. >> reporter: why not allow testing of something as critical as dna easley's attorney says that would have taken more time and time arkansas was quickly running out of. the drug was set to expire ten days after lee's schedule execution date. >> it seems problematic to me, to you. arkansas politicians different
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care. >> reporter: and it appears they still don't. arkansas's governor defended lee's execution despite the new dna discovery. >> the evidence obviously that was uncovered was inconclusive and the fact is the jury found him guilty based on the information they had. >> reporter: arkansas's attorney general running for governor has no regrets. why wasn't there dna testing done before his execution? >> again, the jury heard the evi evi evidence. >> why couldn't the dna be done? >> the courts determined that there was no reason to hear that evidence and that he was not making a proper petition. >> reporter: i asked judge wright if he had second thoughts after hearing about the new dna test results? >> one of my worst fears is missing that piece of evidence
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that goes the other way, but in this case based on what was in front of me, i feel like i made the right decision. i don't necessarily like the decision, but it was the legally correct decision to make. >> reporter: is that justice for debra reese? >> the wrong person was not put to death. the right person was put to death. ladell lee murdered debra reese. >> reporter: you're 100% certain the right person was put to death. >> i absolutely stand by it. the lawful conviction of the jury and the decisions of the courts. >> reporter: lee's defense attorney also thinks about debra reese's family and all they've been through. but. >> i don't think anyone wants the wrong person to be killed in your name. >> reporter: that's not justice. >> that's not justice at all, and it's a shame that they were told that it would be. >> reporter: lee's family hopes
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all rest on the dna, it's been uploaded to the national dna database. so far, there is no hits but that information is going to be kept so that in future if someone is taken into custody and there is a match, lee's family hopes that investigation will go a long way to exonerating ladell lee. for debra reese's family, both families suffered a painful loss and that is never going to change. >> no. >> reporter: erin? >> such an important and incredible report. thank you so much. thanks to all of you for joining us. anderson starts now. good evening. a businy night including the breaking news of how many people willing to give criminal evidence to matt gaetz from his wing man to the congressman's ex-girlfriend. we'll be gin with the death of ronal
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