older will be entered to win $5,000 in cash and additional prizes in twice week ly drawing conducted by the delaware lottery. progress, slow and steady but progress grelsevery day. i'm kate bolduan. "ac 360" starts now. >> good everyning. we begin with breaking news. prol prol prosecutor and trump probe gather to hear evidence and weigh potential charges, the grand jury is expected to decide whether to indict the former president. the post jonathan o'connell. explain exactly what you have learned about the existence and scope of the grand jury.

>> well, the grand jury exists for more than just hearing about any evidence in the trump case. obviously, this is a panel that will be reviewing different cases at the time they're sitting. the main take away here from the d.a.'s position he wouldn't be doing this if he didn't think he had good evidence. he's been obviously had been looking at evidence for a number of years now. same thing with the new york attorney general leticia james but this is a sign he feels like he has something and enough he might be able to convince jurors to bring charges. >> so could you explain to people that this sort of long term special grand jury, how long has it been i'm mpanelled and looking at things not just trump related. >> right. this is -- the trump case is a complicated case, obviously. they're asking jurors to look at financial documdocuments, proba.

maybe tax information understanding tax laws. they're meeting mondays, wednesdays, and fridays. we don't know specifically the date but recent weeks or months and, you know, the reason you call a grand jury is to give jurors time to look at, you know, the details of the complex case that obviously has been a number of years now putting evidence together for. >> based on your reporting, do you have a sense of how strong cy vance thinks their case is? >> they brought in a forensic expert for financial cases and that was a real indicator this spring that, you know, vance was taking this seriously and getting towards the end of making a decision about whether he had enough evidence or not. some categories of interest for the investigators, we know there is interest in whether president trump's company has properly paid taxes on some of their real estate properties. we know there is interest from

investigators about the chief financial officer allen w weisselberg and his tax activities. the question is -- there are a lot of questions but are they immediately targeting president trump himself with potential charges or targeting mr. weisselberg? >> fascinating reporting. thank you. joining us is the democrats' lead counsel in the first house impeachment proceedings and assistant for the u.s. district attorney of new york. what does it say about what the manhattan district attorney could have on the president or associates orb business that hes now reportedly convened this grand jury? >> it's a significant step in part because violent homicide cases like a homicide where you have a murder, sometimes a d.a. will prevent the evidence to a

grand jury and let the grand jury decide whether or not to indict someone. at that time when you know if you have a crime. in the fraud case you don't ness sr.ly ly -- necessarily know if you have a crime but to take the evidence to the grand jury carries more weight with it than other cases. so what this shows is that they've gathered sufficient evidence to believe that potentially a crime has be committed and they are going to spent it to a grand jury ultimately, likely presenting to a grand jury, as well. >> so where there is a violent crime or something, the fact that they're presenting this to the grand jury in a fraud case, means their case may be stronger than it would otherwise be in evidence that's often presented to grand juries? >> right. a lot of times just you present the evidence to a grand jury and let the grand jury decide but here, and we know a lot about this, right? we know obviously, that the d.a. has gotten the tax returns.

we know michael cohen has met with the d.a.'s office numerous times to provide evidence. we know they issued grand jury subpoenas that to a host of other entities and know from reporting, i should say we've heard from reporting that they have subpoenaed school records of allen weisselberg's grandchildren. it been a wide spread investigation and what this reveals in congestion with the new york attorney general converting the civil investigation into a criminal investigation and teaming up with the d.a.'s office, what that definitely shows is there is some evidence that a crime was committed. we don't know by whom. we don't know what the crime is and we're not certain that a grand jury will indict, but it is a more significant step than you might otherwise have in convening a grand jury. >> the push back from defense attorneys is grand juries are very one sided and only a

prosecutor, no defense team and the line about a lose cprosecut being able to indict a ham sandwich. what do you say about that criticism? >> it is generally true that because it is one sided, because there is no defense attorney to cross happen the witnesses that it is very favorable to the prosecution. i would say, though, that particularly in the state grand jury, which is different from a federal grand jury, here say is n -- hearsay is not allowed. you will see a lot of witnesses will have to go and testify themselves. what i would do as a federal prosecutor is i would interview a lot of witnesses and then i would put the case agent from the fbi or law enforce the agency into the grand jury and have them summarize what everybody says so it didn't necessarily take that long. here, we're going to see the

witnesses precesented. the grand jury will see the evidence and they will likely present evidence from the forensic expert, as well as other charts and summaries of documents so that's why it going to take awhile but i would not -- so that doesn't necessarily mean that there will be charges, but broadly speaking to your point, usually particularly in fraud cases a prosecution brings an indictment to a grand jury to vote on it, the grand jury will usually vote to indict. >> the grand jury is reportedly going to sit for six months and hear other cases besides the former president. can you expect a certain, you know, in terms of tile meline h, is there anyway to know the timeline on the trump relate ordinary trump organizational related material may be? >> no, it's very hard. they can extend the grand jury. one thing i would caution your viewers, though, anderson, this

doesn't necessarily mean they will indict donald trump and from my perspective as a federal prosecutor, i think it's a difficult case against trump. fraud cases are hard. he has what would be perceived ased a voice of counsel defense to some of the fraud charges and he doesn't email. we know there isn't going to be a lot of documentary evidence that demonstrates donald trump's knowledge of any misrepresentations to insurance companies, to banks, to tax authorities. that's why allen weisselberg becomes so important and if he is indicted because he would know all of this stuff, then the question is whether or not he will cooperate because i do think that you will need someone who really knows the ins and outs of the trump organization in order to testify, in order to get donald trump and allen, it's a small company. allen weisselberg is the guy who

really knew everything. >> appreciate it. thank you. fascinating. i want to get perspective from someone who knows about trump finances. timothy o'bryan also cnn jim acosta and dana bash. tim, given your experience with then citizen trump in a legal setting, he once sued you for $5 billion because he didn't like what you wrote his net worth was, much less than he claimed it was and the judge tossed the lawsuit. how do you think this news of the grand jury is being received and how serious do you think it is? >> i don't believe he's receiving it well. i don't think anybody with an ounce of common sense would be happy to be part of a criminal probe that's part of a grand jury proceeding. i think you'll start to see him lash out. you can properly set your stopwatch to how soon he'll go after vance and the process. and i think this has enormous

weight but as dan goldman pointed out, we don't know where it is going to lead. there is a lot of evidence issues for the d.a. and the new york state attorney general to surmount here to make a case against trump personally. they may have an easier time against the trump organization. allen weisselberg is in the cross hairs here and i think he is going to be key. there is another former trump organization executive jason whose name has not come up in these proceedings. he and wiseisselberg signed offn what trump wanted and nobody in that company did anything without his blessing including his children. his children were petfied of crossing him. there is nothing of substance in the company, anything the new york state attorney general finds that is criminal, the hurdle will have to be did trump

know and what evidence do they have that shows he knows or knew? >> jim, within trump world or the former president's inner circle, was there or is there a lot of concern about a new york case might progress to this phase? >> yeah, anderson, i can tell you from talking to my sources, trump spoke to people around him about his concerns what might happen up in new york but i'll tell you talking to a source that stays in touch with the former president, they don't believe there are people around the former president that don't believe this is a particularly strong case in vance's office. of course, they may say something like that because they're trying to spin things in the media but remember, donald trump and this goes back to what daniel goldman was eluding to, donald trump will say my accountants gave me this advice or my insurance company gave me this advice, my kids gave me this advice. michael cohen gave me this

advice. that's the kind of person donald trump is and will make it so very difficult to prosecute him for just about anything but make no mistake, if he's indicted, he'll start skquealing like a greased pig at the county fair. no question about it. >> dana, in terms of the politics, does own of this matter to the republican party despite it used to be call themselves the rule of law party? >> not when you have a former president who continues to use terms like witch hunt and, you know, he does well politically playing the victim card and i don't expect this to be any different. he'll probably raise money off of it and argue that this is exactly why, you know, it's more proof he has been wronged along the way from the beginning of his campaign to his presidency, and look, there are a lot of people who believe that. there are a lot of people who believe him and he'll get a lot

of help from the me too caucus and conservative media and, you know, not until and unless he actually is indicted, he actually is, you know, you take this down the road and these are very big ifs, convicted would it potentially hurt him with the people who adore him. the people who are on the fence, you know, a lot of them have been disgusted with his behavior since the november election but that's not who he's trying to appeal to right now. >> tim, you've seen up close how the former president as a citizen dealt with legal matters. i mean, how does he view these things? how does he deal with these things? >> we've also seen how he dealt with it as president, anderson. he skated past two impeachments and robert mueller's federal probe of wrongdoing by him and then he walks in an election and

f fermented an insurrection. what he'll do is rely on the fact that he believes he has nine lives. he's demonstrated he has nine lives and he will take his case first and foremost to his supporters and he will get people to take to the streets. he will get his allies in the media to disparage the process and in the same way he's tried to undermine the rule of law and democracy, he's also going to go after the judiciary system as being politicized and bias towards people like him. that will be his playbook and he won't walk at all about burning down any norms he needs to bring down to save his skin. >> jim, who advices the former president with legal matters these days? obviously, rudy giuliani i wouldn't imagine is in the picture now? >> no, he's not sending rudy giuliani to four seasons landscaping. he has a high powered group of attorneys working for him.

remember, mark was working on tax issues and jay. he has heavy hitters working on his behalf. they will be ready to rumble if this heads into court. keep in mind, as tim and dana said, donald trump is going to fight this not just in the courthouse, he's going to fight this in the court of public opinion. nobody plaip plays the victim l donald trump does and that's the playbook we'll see put into action moving forward. i talked to a trump advisor this morning that said of course he's going to be indicted and something will happen. look who is in charge in new york and fulton county for example when it comes to the election fraud case that may come to fruition down there, all democrats. they believe donald trump will be prosecuted because he's being pursued by democrats and of course, you know, nobody would like to play the role of a political prisoner in all of this than donald trump. >> and dana, there is a lot of

folks who as you said will believe that. >> absolutely. they're very eager to believe that. the question is if you're just asking about raw politics. one thing i'm asking of republicans is despite the fact he's going to take this to the court of public opinion, what this means for a potential run again in 2024. the former president is very serious about that at this moment according to people around him. you know, he's talking about it not as a if but when. this could change that if he's embroiled in a real criminal investigation in a court case. >> dana bash, jim acosta, tim o'brien, appreciate it. >> why did it take five days, not five minutes for house republican leaders to finally condemn one of their members

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well, tonight we know how many antis-semitic words it takes for a congressperson to say about it. that is anyone's guess because for now, talk is all they've got. some is not even about nazis and the holocaust which more of these words come five days after marjorie taylor greene's first try at comparing anti covid measures to the holocaust. this morning she tweeted vaccinated employees force jewish people to wear a gold star. one jewish colleagues said gold

stars are what you get for behaving in class. this is is what the congresswom is invoking and this is what she started five days ago and the last you'll hear from her on the program. this is less about her and her deeply stupid remarks and more about the people leading republican party. >> we can look back at a time in history where people were told to wear a gold star and definitely treated like second class citizens so much so they were put in trains and taken to gas chamber in not s nazi germa this is the abuse nancy pelosi is talking about. >> she later doubled down then tripled down this morning but it was all cut from the same cloth. nothing today was more ahistorical, offense sieve or provocative than her first remarks. what changed? why did it take a full five days for leadership to think maybe invoking gas chambers and nazis

isn't a good idea for the republican party? we have breaking news on that shortly. leader mccarthy had to be pushed but this is what he and the rest of the leadership said not five minutes after greene's remarks but five days. quoting mask wearing to the holocaust condemns these comparisons to the holocaust and the congressman adds we need to speak out about the dangerous anti semi'tis something that is growing in the streets resulting in the number of horrific attacks against jews. it can't be done without both sizing it kevin mccarthy reads marjorie is wrong to compare the horrors of the holocaust with wearing a mask is appalling.

the holocaust is the greatest atrocity in history and the fact this needs to be stated is deeply troubling following at a time the gee wish people face increased violence and threats, nancy pelosi. omar played on anti s-semitic tropes suggesting it was motivated by money rather than principle. she apologized. congressman greene didn't apologize for anything. joining us, david sicily. the fact it took five days for the house republican leadership to finally address these repulsive comments according to cnn's reporting, kevin mccarthy had to be pushed, what does that say to you? >> it's disgraceful. it took them five days, it should have taken five minutes but the reality is kevin mccarthy lost control of the

caucus. this is the house focused on one issue returning to power and read an insurrection against the government of the united states and excused that and willing to excuse the conduct of marjorie taylor greene because they see her as an important person in the caucus and welcome her and she's a member in good standing. they haven't expelled her from that and they haven't -- she hasn't been held accountable in any way after enormous pressure from everyone including jewish members on the democratic side. he finally says something. it's disgraceful. this is a person who has said the most outrageous a antis-semitic things comparing the death of 6 million jews to the guidance by the attending physician is an outrage. i think they think marjorie

taylor greene speaks to the base of their party so she's a welcome member of the republican conference and they waited a very long time before they had the decency to speak out against what she said and it's an outrage. >> among many republicans, at least the former president supporters, she's more popular than kevin mccarthy. it's hard to imagine there will be any repercussions for her as long as mccarthy, as you said and others are eager to reclaim power. >> yeah, and she raises money for them. she's, you know, she's more popular than he is. they moved quickly to remove liz cheney from a leadership position in the conference because she had the audacity to tell the truth and call out the big lie and yet, their fully embracing marjorie taylor greene and kevin mccarthy showed failure of leadership and she's more popular among republican voters and maybe among the republican members of congress

tells you something. they did nothing to impose any consequence or sanction on her for her conduct and this is one of many things she's done to demonstrate deep anti accept ' -- s semitism. >> you wrote to make it clear he doesn't support greene's remarks. how do you respond that anti-semitism is on the rise in the democrat party? >> well, it's just not true and again, there is never any responsibility. the people who refuse to certify the election despite the fact they have valid results and the people that excuse the conduct of marjorie taylor greene and she's not apologized but about trying to assign responsibility to somebody else. something they learned from the former president. deny it and then attribute it to someone else and that's what ms. mccarthy did rather than taking

responsibility for his failure to respond immediately to these comments to strongly condemn them and impose some sanction. there is no reason she has to remain a republican member of the conference. she should be excelled. they welcome her with open arms. they imposed no consequence to her for this conduct and in fact, waited a good long time before they finally spoke out so i think it speaks to a pfailed leadership on behalf of the conference and her popularity within the republican caucus. >> are you concerned about any democrats and their own issues or past -- e omar. >> i think congresswoman omar apologized for that almost immediately butomar. >> i think congresswoman omar apologized for that almost immediately but i don't see it

in the anti semi'tis m at all. the voices that condemned the anti-semitism have been members of the democratic caucus. this is american jews face any discrimination or violence or, you know, harassment and we're the party that's speaking out against hate and division and bigotry and racism and anti-semitism, we don't get the same from our republican colleagues and marjorie taylor greene is one of the most recent examples of that and should be easy for the republican leaders in the congress to condemn what he said and immediately call upon her to apologize and they didn't do any of that because she's welcome in their caucus. >> congressman, appreciate your time. thank you. >> my pleasure. >> joining us now is jamie. you have reporting what made kevin mccarthy speak out. >> the keyword is finally.

a lot of sources are saying it's too little too late. republican sources are saying both republican donors, very important and republican members pushed mccarthy to do this. that they were embarrassed and they would like him to go further. members want her expelled from the conference but don't expect mccarthy to do that. one said to me quote, kefvin should do it but i doubt he will. a second source says donald trump likes her. marjorie taylor greene supports her and kevin doesn't want to upset trump. >> so he's not weighing any actual consequences for greene at this point as far as we know? >> we're hearing talk about a s censor maybe but the question is how much more pressure is there? does she keep doubling down and what does donald trump have to say?

i'm told by a source familiar with the relationship the two men are talking regularly and that it is very likely that before kevin mccarthy even did the statement today, five days later, that he checked in with donald trump. >> and the president has not said anything about these comments, the former president has not said anything about these comments. how much of this is about mccarthy's ambition to be house speaker? >> all of it. it's 100%. here is the question. he wants donald trump support because he thinks that's how they get control of the house in '22. the problem is that kevin mccarthy one source said to me needs to learn to do math. if he is alienating his members by not leading on something like this, we already know adam kinzinger said he won't support him. liz cheney won't support him. what about the 35 members that

voted for a january 6th commission that kevin mccarthy did not want? so he may be alienating the very votes he needs in the conference, anderson. >> jamie gangel, appreciate it. the elusive lawmaker behind the audit finally talks to kyung l law. there are ordinary eggs... and then there's the best. we like cage free, and which ones just taste fresher and more flavorful? only eggland's best. we prefer organic, and which ones have 6 times more vitamin d and 25% less saturated fat? only eggland's best. my family deserves the best, and which egg is the best in so many ways? only eggland's best. better taste, better nutrition, better eggs.

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tonight, we can finally hear from the arizona state senate republican that called for the audit of the 2020 election ballot. she's avoided talking until now. kyung law caught up with her. here is her report. >> reporter: good morning. senator? you may not recognize karen fan. >> let get this done. >> reporter: she's the elusive leader behind the audit happening in maricopa county, arizona. >> i don't know what is legit or isn't. >> reporter: you're questioning the democracy? >> no, the election system. >> reporter: which is the backbone of the democracy. >> right. we should have 100% confidence in our democracy and election

system. >> reporter: you're talking about trying to disprove conspiracies. >> if i have to, yes. why wouldn't we? if somebody says something is out there, i would love to be able to say that's not true, guys. >> reporter: aren't you raising more questions by giving riese o the conspiracy theories? >> no. >> reporter: we finally caught up with her in the senate parking lot despite two previous audits that found no wide spread fraud, she says this third review is needed. over the last month, we've seen this little known subcontractor the republican lead senate hired use u.v. lights hunting for non-exist taent water lights on ballots. here is why says fan. >> okay. so let me ask you a question. are you 100% confident that every vote that came in in arizona or any other state, can you say emphatically 100% that

no dead people voted, that ballots weren't filled out by other people, that the chain of custody from the minute people voted, their ballots that the chain of custody was accurate and on target the entire time? can you tell me that? >> reporter: i can say what the data shows there is no wide spread fraud -- >> i didn't say fraud. >> reporter: you said chain of custody. these things are all fraud. >> well, i have asked you a question. can you honestly tell me in all of the states no ballots from people already deceased were not filled out and sent in. >> reporter: i can tell you what the data has shown overwhelmingly, this was the hos most secure election in american history. >> you can't answer that question, can you? >> reporter: i'm answering it. >> you're telling me what the data says. >> reporter: the data is what we should be driven by. what the facts are, the only

outlet given extensive access to the review. >> first of all, when we talk about transparency from day one the entire process is live streaming so anybody -- >> reporter: on an oan with cameras. >> are you saying they are not a credible news source? >> reporter: yes. >> okay. i'll remember that. cnn is saying oan is not credible. >> reporter: a protrump non-profit claims it's raised 1.7 million for the audit. fan says when the audit nears the end, the public will learn who is exactly paying for this. for now, she says taxpayers are covering the first 150$150,000. >> we're paying for the first $150,000 and the coliseum and our fair share. anything and above that is being

covered by others. i don't know who they are. i know from get-go there was a lot of grass roots people. i have been told there are people sending in $10, $50 checks, $$100 because they want to see the audit done. >> reporter: it's backed by the republican majority in the arizona senate. looks like they are chasing conspiracies. >> or debunking conspiracies. that's another thing. they don't look at that. everyone wants to twist that word around. >> reporter: how long do you believe this process should go? >> as long as it takes. >> reporter: do you believe this is helping democracy? >> absolutely. >> reporter: will you do this every election? >> we will answer people's questions. i don't care if you're in arizona or any state across the nation, if we have those doubts, we owe it to then to answer their questions. this will be the basis of a gold standard. >> kyung law joins us now from phoenix. it's interesting, she's saying

essentially that if anybody feels like something wasn't fair then there will always be audits because people will always think something isn't fair, whoever loses will think it's not fair and at some point, that this will just continue on and on. this is the new normal. >> reporter: she quantified it. because there are so many she says who do not believe this election result that they have to chase all of these conspiracies but republicans here in maricopa county say that that is not being able to tell the difference between fact and fiction and karen fann, somebody republicans in maricopa county deeply admire and known for many years say she is chasing a fiction. >> kyung law, appreciate the reporting. up next, the memorials honoring george floyd.

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there was silence to honor the time derek chauvin knelt on his neck. members of the family met with president biden, vice president harris. after the meeting floyd's brother said they had a great meeting and lobbied for the george floyd policing act. that legislation is hung up in the senate but tim scott said he was cautiously optimistic the bill would be passed by the end of this week. joining me tonight is courtney ross, george floyd's girlfriend. courtney, thanks so much for being with us. it's obviously been a year. how are you doing? how are you holding up with all that's gone on? >> it's been a trying year, anderson. i would say been, you know, the hardest year of my life and i feel like i've been through a lot, but today is a day of celebrating floyd's life surrounded by wonderful people,

friends and family and we've all been sharing stories and remembering what a wonderful man he is. >> i want to play something that you said about george floyd. you refer to him as floyd, on the day of the verdict. i'll play this for our viewers. >> it's a first step in a long road to recovery. we have a lot of work to do in minneapolis, but i believe floyd came here for a reason. this is a sacred, sacred land and we need to start respecting that again, and i know that that is what he would want. >> how confident are you that there will be progress? we've seen obviously the death of ronald green come to light now in louisiana. there was the killing of daunte wright in minnesota, you know a lot about from working at the school he went to. are you optimistic there will be change? >> i have to remain optimistic.

that is exactly what floyd would want. no matter what people's faults, floyd was so forgiving. he taught me to be even more forgiving. i was already a person that was like that and i believe, like, i believe in minneapolis, though, i'm ready to see some real change and it's time now. we waited a year. things need to start having some change. saying all of that, we have some people on the same page as us and i'll continue this fight so there will be real change in this city. >> the george floyd policing act is stalled in the senate and

undergoing intense negotiations. are you disappointed it hasn't been signed into law? >> i'm shocked it hasn't been signed into law by now. so if anyone is listening to me out there, you know, listen from the woman that loved him and the person that knew him in h minneapolis and knew how much he loved this city and do something for him. >> it's been a little over a month since the verdict came back guilty for ex officer derek chauvin. i'm wondering your feelings about his trial, about him at this point. there is obviously a federal case in the works and you may have to live through the legal process for a long time to come. what sort of emotions do you have about that? >> i've expressed before that i

tried to look at derek chauvin when he was in the courtroom. i want him to how much pain he's caused. and i didn't get that moment. i want all the officers to know they didn't just take floyd's life. they took away my way of life. they took away my children's way of life. they took away our community's way of life. they took away so much of the security we had in our city. we've always had problems, but this has obviously put minneapolis on edge. we're working to get where we need to be. but like i said, i'm not sure we're there yet but we're working on it. >> obviously the whole world knows the name george floyd. and to many he's the symbol of a movement.

you obviously knew him as a person. what do you hope his legacy is? >> well, you're right, the world knows him as george floyd. and i continue to say that george floyd is a movement. floyd, or big floyd like we called him in minneapolis, he was a man that we all loved. and floyd always believed in inclusiveness, togetherness, taking care of people in need. and i remind people that floyd stood for people that needed help, and that included the homeless population, the youths, our elderly population. and he really focused his entire life around helping people. so i encourage people to take on what he -- his efforts began in this world, so continue to reach out to those in need.

continue to put your money in good places where they need it. and that's what he would have wanted. he hated to see people struggle. he would help anybody he passed on the street that needed help. that's what i think this society needs right now. we need a lot of love, we need a lot of hope, we need a lot of what floyd stood for. >> courteney ross, i really appreciate you talking to us. thank you. >> thank you, anderson. we'll get some perspective on this day from van jones, cnn political commentator and former special adviser to president obama. van, you just heard from george floyd's girlfriend. what stands out to you about this past year, about where we are a year from his death? >> first, i just want to say, you know, these families, they're unbelievable. nobody signs up for this role.

this is not a situation that anybody wants. and yet over and over again you found the people who history or fate, you know, drags out of their lives and throws in front of these cameras and throws in front of congressional hearings, are just beautiful people. it just speaks to the humanity of the folks who are not famous, who are not rich, not powerful, who don't get a chance to write the laws or make the media happen. there's so much beauty and dignity in this country. and people shouldn't have to go through this. if people are going to go through this and they can reach down and find the kind of humanity she just showed and stick up for the best of him and the best of their hometown, the lawmakers need to do the same damn thing. it doesn't make sense to be a year out and we still don't have

any real progress. it doesn't make sense. i appreciate the leadership of tim scott in the senate along with cory booker. i appreciate everything that karen bass is trying to do. but honestly, law enforcement should come forward now. mcconnell, all the other people who have as much or more power, to say, let's just get this done. there's so much that people already agree on. the chokeholds shouldn't be happening, the no-knock warrants shouldn't be happening. so much stuff that we can agree on. honor these families. don't make them go through months and months and months of this. it's just unbelievable. >> you know, it's interesting, i spoke with her mom, actually, afterward, i called her mom up to talk to her. the ripple effects of one person's did he tell in, you know, immediate family, extended families, other families, and then the effects on other people, what's happening in

those families because of those ripple effects. i mean, we find this all across the country. it's sort of this hidden pain that exists, that rarely gets recognized. >> and i think that, you know, we need more humanity recognized by law enforcement. i'm from a law enforcement family, as i always point out. police officers are not saints or superheroes. they're city employees. and you have some that are good and some that are bad and you have -- anybody can get off track. but when you see anybody in trouble, maybe they're acting up, maybe they're having a bad day. you know, you've got a lot of people. it's not just that person you might be arresting. that person has a family. the people who care about them.

and they need to be present in the interaction between -- when law enforcement shows up. >> van jones, i appreciate it. thank you so much. up next, the former president has just weighed in on the breaking news tonight, the report that a grand jury has been convened to weigh potential charges involving him or his company. we'll be right back. certified from headlamp to tailpipe. that's certified head turns. and it's all backed by our unlimited mileage warranty. that means unlimited peace of mind. mercedes-benz certified pre-owned. translation: the mercedes of your dreams is closer than you think.

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at the top of the program, tim o'brien said we should start a stopwatch on how soon the former president erupts in the wake of news that a grand jury has convened against the trump company in new york. quoth from pieces of the former president's statement, this is a continuation of the greatest witch hunt in american history. it began the day i came down the escalator at trump tower and it's never stopped. also this: no other president in history has had to put up with what i have had to. it continues, this is political and an affront to the voters who supported me and driven by democrat prosecutors. then comes a false statement about crime in new york, then this. instead of going after drug

dealers and traffickers, they're coming after donald trump. the news continues. let's hand it over to chris for "cuomo prime time." >> it's very interesting to note, my friend, everything we heard from the former president is all but meaningless in the forum before which he now finds himself. those are all political statements and they're well and good but in court you only know what you can show and that is what we are about to begin in a way we never have before, with respect to donald john trump. good to see you, coop. i am chris cuomo. welcome to "prime time." here we go. it's time for the people to decide whether former president trump should face justice. "the washington post" says that manhattan d.a. cyrus vance convened a grand jury for six months. this move tells us many things. first, vance is now on the clock. but he has a long time. they must expect to show a lot to the jurors after two years of investigation because six months

is a long time t