>> good evening. we begin with breaking news. a headline in "the washington post" signaling so much more than a few inches of news copy. it reads prosecutor and trump probe gather to hear evidence and weigh potential charges, the post citing two people reporting that the grand jury impanelled by manhattan's district attorney is expected to decide if prosecutors decided whether to indict the former president or the business itself. joining us one of the reporters on the story, "the post's" jonathan o'connell. explain exactly what you have learned about the existence and scope of the grand jury. >> well, the grand jury exists for more than just hearing about any evidence in the trump case. obviously, this is a panel that will be reviewing a number of different cases over the time

that they be sitting. the main take away here from the d.a.'s position he wouldn't be doing this if he didn't think he had good evidence. he's been obviously had been looking at evidence for a number of years now. same thing with the new york attorney general leticia james but this is a sign he feels like he has something and enough he might be able to convince jurors to bring charges. >> so could you explain to people that this sort of long term special grand jury, how long has it been impanelled for and you said it's looking at a lot of things not just trump-related? >> right. this is -- the trump case is a complicated case, obviously. they will be asking jurors to look at financial documents probably, maybe some tax information, understanding tax laws. so they're meeting mondays, wednesdays, and friday. we don't know specifically the date but recent weeks or months and, you know, the reason you call a grand jury is to give jurors time to look at, you know, the details of the complex

case that obviously has been a number of years now putting evidence together for. >> based on your reporting, do you have a sense of how strong cy vance thinks their case is? >> well, they have brought in a special forensic expert for financial cases and that was a real indicator earlier this spring that vance was taking this seriously and was sort of getting toward the end of making a decision about whether he had enough evidence or not. we know some categories of interest for the investigators. we know that there is some interest in whether president trump's company has properly paid taxes on some of their real estate properties. we know there is interest from investigators about the chief financial officer allen weisselberg and his tax activities. the question is -- there are a lot of question, but one of them are they immediately targeting

president trump himself with potential charges? are they targeting mr. weisselberg? are they charging the company? they could charge the company with a crime instead of picking an individual. >> jonathan o'connell, fascinating reporting. thank you. lead counsel in the first house impeachment proceedings and assistant for the u.s. district attorney of new york. daniel, what does it say about what the manhattan district attorney could have on the former president or his associates or his business that he's now reportedly convened this grand jury? >> it's a significant step in part because violent homicide cases like a homicide where you have a murder, sometimes a d.a. will prevent the evidence to a grand jury and let the grand jury decide whether or not to indict someone. at that time when you know if you have a crime. in the fraud case you don't ness necessarily know that you have a crime. and so the decision by the d.a. to take the evidence to a grand

jury carries more weight with it than in other cases. so what this shows is that they've gathered sufficient evidence to believe that potentially a crime has be committed and they are going to present it to a grand jury, ultimately likely presenting an indictment as well. >> so the fact you're saying unlike whether there is a violent crime or something, the fact that they're presenting this to the grand jury on a fraud case means their case may be stronger than it would otherwise be in evidence that's often presented to grand juries? >> right. a lot of times just you present the evidence to a grand jury and let the grand jury decide. but here -- and we know a lot about this, right? we know obviously that the d.a. has gotten the tax returns. we know michael cohen has met with the d.a.'s office numerous time to provide evidence. we know they've issued grand juries to a host of other entities. we know from reporting, i should

say we've heard from reporting that they have subpoenaed school records of allen weisselberg's grandchildren. it's been a widespread investigation. and what this reveals in conjunction with the new york attorney general converting its civil investigation into a criminal investigation teaming up with the d.a.'s office, what that definitely shows is there is some evidence that a crime was committed. we don't know by whom. we dent know what the crime is. and we're not certain that a grand jury will indict. but it is a more significant step than you might otherwise have in convening a grand jury. >> the pushback from defense attorneys is that grand juries are very one-sided. only a prosecutor in there, no defense team. the old line about a prosecutor being able to indict a ham sandwich. you're saying -- what about that criticism? >> well, it is generally true

that because it is one-sided, because there is no defense attorney to cross-examine the witnesses, that it is very favorable to the prosecution. i would -- i would say, though, that particularly in the state grand jury which is different from a federal grand jury, hearsay is not allowed. so what you will see over the course of this long grand jury is a lot of the witnesses will have to go and testify themselves. what i would do as a federal prosecutor is i would interview a lot of witnesses, and then i would put the case agent from the fbi or another law enforcement agency into the grand jury and have them summarize what everybody says. so it didn't necessarily take that long. here we're going actually have to see the witnesses presented, the grand jury is going to see the documents they likely will present evidence from the forensic expert as well as other charts and summaries of documents. so that's why it's going to take

a while. but i would not -- so that doesn't necessarily mean that there will be charges, but broadly speaking to your point, usually when particularly in fraud cases, the prosecution brings an indictment to a grand jury to vote on it, the grand jury will usually vote to indict. >> the grand jury is reportedly going to sit for six months, hear other cases besides this former president. can you expect a certain in terms of timeline here, i guess is there any way to know what the timeline on the trump-related or trump organization related material may be? >> no, it's very hard. and they can extend the grand jury. one thing i would caution all of your viewers, though, anderson, this doesn't necessarily mean that they're going to indict donald trump. and from my perspective as a former prosecutor, i do think it's a difficult case against trump. fraud cases are hard. he has what would be perceived

as an advice of council defense to some of the fraud charges. and he doesn't email. so we know that there isn't going to be a lot of documentary evidence that demonstrates donald trump's knowledge of any misreputations to insurance companies, to banks, to tax authorities. that's why allen weisselberg becomes so important. and if he is indicted, because he would know all of this stuff, then the question is whether or not he will cooperate. because i do think that you will need someone who really knows the ins and outs of the trump organization to find -- in order to testify, in order to get donald trump. and allen, it's a small company. allen weisselberg is the guy who really knew everything. >> daniel goldman, i appreciate it. thank you. it's fascinating. i want to get more perspective from someone who knows a thing or two about former presidents' finances from his extensive reporting over the year, timothy

o'brien. also jim acosta and dana bash. tim, given with trump in a legal setting, he wants to sue you for $5 billion because he didn't like what you wrote, his net worth was much lower than what he thought it was, how serious do you think the grand jury is? >> i don't believe he is receiving it well. i don't think anybody would an ounce of common sense would be happy to be subject to criminal probe that's now part of the grand jury proceeding. so i think you're going to start to see him lash out. you can probably set your stopwatch to how soon he'll go after vance and after the process. he already has gone after tish james last week of course obviously. this has enormous weight. as goldman just pointed out, we really don't know where it's going to lead. there is a lot of evidentiary issues for the d.a. and the new york state attorney general to surmount here to make a case

against trump personally. they may have an easier time against the trump organization. allen weisselberg is in the crosshairs here. and i think he is going to be key. there is another former trump organization executive jason greenblatt who's name has not come up in any of these proceedings, but he and weisselberg were the two people who signed off with whatever trump wanted. and no one in that company did anything without his blessing, including his children. his children were petrified of crossing him or actually completing deals that he hadn't let. there is no remove from donald trump from anything of substance in that company. anything that the d.a. finds or the new york state attorney general finds that is criminal, the hurdle going to have to be did trump know and what evidence they have that shows he knows or knew. >> jim, within trump world, or the former president's inner circle, is there you think a lot of concern about that a new york

case might progress to this phase? >> trump has spoken to associates, people around him about his concerns as to what might happen in these cases up in new york. but i will tell you, talking to a source who stays in touch with the former president just a short while ago, they don't believe there are people around the former president who believe this is a particularly strong case in vance's office. now of course they may say something like that, because they're trying to spin things in the media. but remember, donald trump, and that goes back to what daniel goldman was alluding to a few moments association. donald trump is the type who will say oh, well, my accountants gave me this advice or my insurance company gave me this advice, my kids gave me this advice. michael cohen gave me this advice that is the kind of person donald trump. that is what is going to make it so very difficult to prosecute him for just about anything. but make no mistake. if he is indicted, he is going to start squealing like a

greased pig at the county fair. no question about it. >> dana, in terms of the politics of this, does any of this really matter to the republican party? despite it used to be sort call themselves the rule of law party? >> not when you have a former president who continues to use terms like witch hunt. and, you know, he does well politically playing the victim card. and i don't expect this to be any different. he'll probably raise money off of it. and argue that this is exactly why, you know, he -- it's more proof that he has been wronged along the way from the beginning of his campaign to his presidency. and, look, there are a lot of people who believe that. there are a lot of people who believe him, and he'll get a lot of help from the me too caucus and conservative media. and, you know, not until and unless he actually is indicted, he actually is, you know, if you take this down the road, and

these are very big ifs, convicted, would it potentially hurt him with the people who adore him. now the people who are on the fence, a lot of them have been disgusted with his behavior since the november election. but that's not who he is trying to appeal to right now. >> tim, you've seen up close how the former president as a citizen dealt with legal matters. how does he view these things? how does he deal with these things? >> well, we've also seen how he's dealt with it as president, anderson. he skated past two impeachments and robert mueller's extensive federal probe of wrongdoing by him. and then he lost an election and fomented an insurrection in response to it. so what he'll do is rely on the fact that he believes he has nine lives. he has demonstrated that he has nine lives, and he will take his case first and foremost to his

supporters. and he will get people to take to the streets. he will get his allies in the media to disparage the process. and in the same way that he's tried to undermine the rule of law and democracy up to this point, he is also going to go after the judiciary system as being politicized and biased towards people like him. that will be his playbook. and he won't balk at all about i think, you know, burning down the norms he needs to burn down. >> jim, who advises the president when it comes to legal matters these days? obviously giuliani i wouldn't imagine is in the picture right now. >> no, he is not sending rudy giuliani out to four seasons landscaping these days. he has a pretty high-powered group of attorneys forring for him. remember, mark mukasey was working on these cases, jay sekulow, he has some heavy hitters working on his behalf.

this they're going to be ready to rumble if this heads into court. keep in mind as dana was saying, donald trump is going to fight this not just in the courthouse, he is going to fight this in the court of public opinion. nobody plays the victim like donald trump does, and that's exactly the playbook we're going see put into action moving forward. i talked to a trump adviser earlier this evening who said of course he is going to be indicted. of course something is going the happen to him. look who is in charge in new york. look who is in charge in fulton county, for example, when it comes to that election fraud case that may come to fruition down there, all democrats. they believe that donald trump will be prosecuted because he is being pursued by democrats, and of course, you know, nobody would like to play the role of a political prisoner in all of this than donald trump. >> and dana, there is a lot of folks who as you said will believe that. >> absolutely. they're very eager to believe that. the question is if you're just asking about the raw politics one of the things i'm hearing

from many, many republicans is, you know, despite the fact that he is going to take this to the court of public opinion, so on and so forth, what this means for a potential run again in 2024. the former president is very serious about that at this moment, according to people around him. he's talking about it not as a if but a when. this could very much change that if he becomes embroiled in a real criminal investigation in a court case. >> dana bash, tim o'brien, i appreciate it. thank you. next, why did it take five days, not fife minutes for house republican leaders to finely condemn one of their members' repeated anti-semitic statements? new reporting, keeping them honest. and with new memorials under way marking the year since george floyd's murder, we'll talk with his girlfriend about all she has experience and what sees for future even as the questionable killings of black men by police continue. now we g.

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tonight we know how many anti-semitic utterances from a conspiracy-spouting freshman congresswoman it takes for republican leaders to say anything about it. as for what it will take for the same leaders to actually do anything about it, that is anyone's guess, because for now talk is all they've got. some of it is not even unequivocal. not even about nazis and the holocaust, which more of these words come five days after congresswoman marjorie taylor greene's first try at comparing anti-covid measures to the holocaust. this morning she tweeted "vaccinated employees get a vaccination logo just like the nazis forced jewish people to wear a gold star." as one jewish colleague put today, gold stars are what you get for behaving in class. yellow stars of david are what jews were forced to wear to mark them for discrimination". this is what the congresswoman has been invoking.

here is what she started five years ago, and this the last you'll hear about it on this program. this is less about her and her deemly stupid remarks and more about the people leading the republican party. >> you know, we can look back at a time in history where people were told to wear a gold star and they were definitely treated like second class citizens, so much so that they were put in trains and taken to gas chambers in nazi germany. and this is exactly the type of abuse that nancy pelosi is talking about. >> she later doubled down and then tripled down this morning, but it was all cut from the same cloth. nothing today was any more ahistorical, offensive or provocative than her first remarks. so what changed? why did it take a full five days for leadership to maybe invoking gas chambers and nazis is not a good idea for the republican party? well, we have some breaking news on that shortly. in a nutshell, leader mccarthy had to be pushed. but first, here is what he and the rest of the leadership f finally said five days after the

remark. house chair lisa stefanik said equitting masks to the holocaust to one of the worst atrocities ever committed. representative scalise does not agree with these comments and condemns these comparisons to the holocaust. and the congressman adds, quote, we also need to be speaking out strongly against the dangerous anti-semitism that is growing in our streets and in the democratic party resulting in an alarming number of horrific violent attacks against jews. not even condemning someone for trivializing the murder of 6 million jews can be done without both sidesing it's. his statement reads margie is wrong in her intentional decision to compare the horrors of the holocaust with wearing masks is appalling. the holocaust is the greatest atrocity committed in history. the fact that this needs to be stated today is deeply troubling that is followed by at a time when the jewish people faced increased violence and threats, anti-semitism is on the rise in

the republican party and the completely ignored. ilhan omar did come under criticism in 2015 for a tweet playing on saint semitic tropes. she later apologized. congresswoman green has apologized for nothing because then she couldn't fund raise off it. joining us now rhode island democratic congressman david cicilline. congressman, the fact that it took five days for the house republican leadership to finally address these repulsive comments, according to cnn's reporting, kevin mccarthy had to be pushed, what does that say to you? >> well, it's disgraceful. as you said, it took them five days. should it have taken them five minutes. but the reality is kevin mccarthy has lost control of his caucus. this is a set of leaders in the republican caucus in the house that are focused on one issue, and that is returning to power. and so they're willing to put up with a former president who is promoting a big lie about the election being stolen, who led

an insurrection against the government of the united states, and they've excused that. and now they're willing to excuse the conduct of marjorie taylor greene because they see her as an important person in their caucus. they still welcome her. she is a member in good standing of the republican conference. they haven't expelled her from that she hasn't been held accountable in any way. five days later, after enormous pressure from everyone, including jewish meshes membersn the democratic side, he finally says something. this is disgraceful. this is the person who has said the most outrageous anti-semitic things, comparing the death to six million jews to wearing masks is an outrage. unfortunately they think marjorie taylor greene speaks to the base of their party. so she is a welcome member of the republican conference. and they waited a very long time before they had the decency to speak out against what she said. and it's an outrage. >> i mean, among many

republicans, she or at least the former president supporters, she's more popular than kevin mccarthy. it seems hard to imagine that there is really going to be any repercussions for her as long as mccarthy, as you said and the others are just eager to reclaim power. >> yeah. she raises money for them. she is more popular than he is. and remember, they moved quickly to remove liz cheney from a leadership position in their conference because she had the audacity to tell the truth, to call out the big lie. and yet they are fully embracing marjorie taylor greene, kevin mccarthy has showed a complete failure of leadership. and the fact that she is more popular among republican voters and maybe even among if republican members of congress tells you something. they did nothing to oppose any consequence, any sanction on her for her conduct. and this is one of many things she's done to demonstrate deep anti-semitism. and it's outrageous that she's

an important member of their conference. >> you along with other jewish members of congress wrote a letter to kevin mccarthy today asking him to make it clear that he doesn't support greene's anti-semitic remarks. how do you respond to mccarthy's accusation in his statement that, quote, anti-semitism is on the rise in the democratic party? >> it's just not true. and again, there is never any responsibility. the people who refuse to certify the election, despite the fact that they were in fact the valid result, they've never apologized for that. the people who have excused the conduct of marjorie taylor greene and she herself has not apologized. it's always about trying to assign responsibility to somebody else. something they apparently learned from the former president. deny it and attribute it to someone else. and that's what mr. mccarthy did, rather than taking responsibility for his failure to respond immediately to these comments, to strongly condemn them, and then to impose some sanction. there is no reason that she has to remain a member of the republican conference.

she should be expelled. but they welcome her with open arms. they've imposed no consequence to her for this conduct. and in fact waited a good long time before they finally spoke out. so i think it speaks to a failed leadership on behalf of the republican conference and her popularity within the republican caucus. >> are you concerned about any democrats and their own issues or past comments like congresswoman ilhan omar from minnesota playing on anti-semitic trope? >> i think congresswoman omar apologized for that almost immediately. but i see no evidence whatsoever in the democratic caucus or in the democratic party of anti-semitism at all. in fact, the strongest voices that have condemned acts of anti-semitism and this rise in anti-semitic violence have been members of the democratic caucus. but everyone should be condemning it. it is unacceptable in america that american jews face any

discrimination or violence or harassment. we're the party that is speaking out against hate and division and bigotry and racism and anti-semitism. we don't get the same from our republican colleagues, sadly. and marjorie taylor greene is one of the most recent and i think most despicable examples of that, and it should have been easy for the republican leaders in the congress to condemn what she said to immediately call upon her to apologize. and they didn't do any of that. because she is welcome in their caucus. >> congressman cicilline, i appreciate your time. thank you. >> my pleasure. >> joining us now cnn special correspondent jamie gangel. jamie, some new reporting on what made kevin mccarthy finally speak out on. this. >> the key word there is finally. and a lot of my sources are saying it's too little too late. my republican sources are saying both republican donors, very important, and very members pushed mccarthy to do this, that they were embarrassed and that

they were frustrated, and that they would like him to go further, that members really would like her expelled from the conference, but they don't expect mccarthy to do that. one said to me, quote, kevin should do it, but i doubt he will. a second source says donald trump likes her, marjorie taylor greene. he supports her. and kevin doesn't want to upset trump. >> so he is not weighing any actual consequences for green at this point as far as we know? >> you know, we're hearing some talk about a censure maybe, but i think the real question is how much more pressure there is. does she keep doubling down. and what does donald trump have to say? i'm told by a source familiar with their relationship that the two men are talking regularly and that it is very likely that before kevin mccarthy even did the statement today, five days later, that he checked in with donald trump. >> and the president has not

said anything about these comments. the former president has not said anything about these comments how. is about kevin mccarthy's ambition to be house speaker? >> all of it. it's 100%. but here is the question. he wants donald trump's support because he thinks that's how they get control of the house in '22. the problem is that kevin mccarthy one source said to me needs to learn to do math. if he is alienating his members by not leading on something like this, we already know adam kinzinger has said he won't support him. liz cheney won't support him. what about the 35 members who voted for a january 6 commission that kevin mccarthy did not want? so he may be alienating the very votes he needs in the

conference, anderson. >> jamie gangel, appreciate. thanks. >> sure. up next, the elusive lawmaker behind the so-called elect audit under way in phoenix finally talks to our kyung lah. keeping your oysters business growing has you swamped. you need to hire. i need indeed indeed you do. the moment you sponsor a job on indeed you get a shortlist of quality candidates from a resume data base claim your seventy-five-dollar credit when you post your first job at indeed.com/promo

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the arizona state republican who called for the so-called audit of the 2020 presidential election ballots in phoenix. she's avoided talking until now. cnn's kyung lah caught up with her. here's her report. >> reporter: good morning, senator fan. >> you umay not regular arizona senate president karen fan. >> let's get this thing done. >> reporter: she is the elusive leader behind the audit happening in arizona. >> i don't know what is legit, what isn't legit. but why wouldn't we want to answer those questions. >> because you're questioning democracy? >> no, i'm questioning the integrity of the election system. >> reporter: which is the backbone of democracy. >> that's right. which means we should have full 100% confidence in our democracy and in our election system. >> reporter: but you're talking about trying to disprove conspiracies. >> if i have to, yes. why wouldn't we? if somebody says something is out there, i would love to be able to say that's not true, guys. >> reporter: ant you raising more questions by giving rise to

these conspiracy theories? >> no. i'm answering questions. >> reporter: after declining a dozen requests from cnn to talk, we finally caught up with her in the senate parking lot. despite two previous audits in maricopa county that found no widespread fraud, fan says this third review is needed. over this past month we've seen this little known contractor the republican-led senate hired cyber ninjas using uv lights hunting for nonexistent watermarks on ballots and high-tech cameras looking for photocopied ballots. here is why says fan. >> okay. so let me ask you a question. are you 100% confident that every vote that came in arizona or any other state, can you say emphatically 100% that no dead people voted, that ballots weren't filled out by other people, that the chain of custody from the minute people voted, their ballots, that the chain of custody was accurate and on target the entire time?

can you tell me that? >> i can say that what the data show us that there was no widespread fraud. >> i didn't say there was fraud. >> but you just said "chain of custody", dead people. these are all fraud. >> well, i ask you a question. can you honestly tell me and all the states that no ballots from people that are already deceased were not filled out and sent in? >> i can tell you that what the data has shown overwhelmingly this is the most secure election in american history. >> okay, but you can't answer that question either. >> i'm answering it. i'm telling you -- >> no, you're telling me what the data says. >> and your t data is what we should be driven are. >> what the facts are may be the disconnect. fann defends the one america news network or oan as being the only outlet given extensive access to the review. >> first of all, when we talk about transparency, from day one the entire process has been live

streaming. so anybody -- >> on oan with cameras controlled by oan. >> are you saying that oan is not a credible news source? >> yes. >> are you saying that? >> okay. i'll remember that cnn is saying that oan is not a credible one. >> yes. >> okay. >> oan have fund raised for the arizona property and a pro-trump nonprofit claims it has raised 1.7 for the audit. fann says when the audit nears its end, the public will learn who is exactly paying for this. for now she says taxpayers are covering the first $150,000. >> well, we are paying the 150,000. we are paying for some of the security and we're paying for the cost of the column. well, we're paying for our fair share. anything over and above that is being covered by others. i do not know who they are, but i know from the get-go there was a lot of grassroots people. i have been told that there are people sending in $10, $50 checks, $100 because they want to see this audit done.

>> reporter: fann's decision to continue with the audit is backed by the republican majority in the arizona senate. it looks like they're chasing conspiracies. >> or debunking conspiracies. that's another thing. everybody wants to twist that word around. how about debunking conspiracy? >> reporter: and how long do you believe that this process should go? >> as long as it takes. >> reporter: do you believe this is helping democracy? >> absolutely. absolutely. >> reporter: will you do this every election? >> it will be a lesson in democracy that we answer people's questions. and i want the people -- i don't care if you're in arizona or any state across the nation. if we have those kind of doubts, we owe it to them to answer their questions. this will be the basis of a gold standard. >> kyung lah joins us now from phoenix. it's interesting she is saying essentially that if anybody feels like something wasn't fair, then there will always be audits, because people will always think something is unfair. whoever loses will think it's

not fair. and at some point that this will just continue on and on. this is the new normal. >> she quantified it. she said if it's only 2% of voters who think that it's not fair, you can ignore that. but because there are so many she says who do not believe this election result, that they have to chase all of these conspiracies. but republicans here in maricopa county say that that is not being able to tell the difference between fact and fiction. and karen fann, somebody who the republicans in maricopa county deeply admire and have known for many years, anderson, they say she is chasing a fiction. >> kyung lah, appreciate the reporting. up next, the m members of g floyd's family visit the white house. details when we continue. to make progress, we must keep taking steps forward. we believe the future of energy is lower carbon. and to get there, the world needs to reduce global emissions.

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honor the 9 minutes and 29 seconds when former officer derek chauvin knelt on mr. floyd's next. a the white house members of floyd family met with president biden, vice president harris. after the meeting floyd's brother said the family had a great meeting and lobbied for the george floyd policing act. that legislation is now hung up in the senate, but republican senator tim scott said he was cautiously optimistic that the bill would eventually be passed, but not by the end of this week. joining me tonight is courteney ross, george floyd's girlfriend. courtney, thanks so much for being with us. it's obviously been a year. how are you doing? how you holding up with that's gone on? >> it's been a trying year, anderson. it's i would say the hardest year of my life. and i feel like i've been through a lot. but today is a day of celebrating floyd's life and

being surrounded by wonderful people, friends and family. and we've all just been sharing stories and remembering what a wonderful man he is. >> i want to play something that you said about george floyd. you refer to him as floyd, on the day of the verdict. i want to play this for our viewers. >> it's the first step in a long road to recovery. we have a lot of work to do in minneapolis, but i believe floyd came here for a reason. this is a sacred, sacred land, and we need to start respecting that again. and i know that that is what he would want. >> how confident are you that there will be progress? we've seen obviously the death of ronald greene to come light in louisiana. daunte wright in minnesota, you know a lot about the working at the school he went to. are you optimistic there will be change? >> i have to remain optimistic.

that is exactly what floyd would want. he would not want any negativity or -- out on people. no matter what people's faults. floyd was so forgiving. he taught me to be more forgiving. i was already a person that was like that. and i believed like particularly in my city. i believe in minneapolis. though i'm ready to see some real change and it's time now. we've waited a year. things need to start having some drastic changes going on. but saying all that, you know, we have some people that are on the same page as us. i notice i'm going to continue this fight. so there will be real change in this city, in this country, in this world. >> the george floyd justice in policing act, which passed the house is stalled in the senate.

it's undergoing intense negotiations. are you -- are you disappointed it hasn't been passed by now? obviously president biden hoped it would have been signed into law by today. >> i'm shocked that it hasn't been signed into law by now. i -- i think it's ridiculous. so if anyone is listening to me out there, listen from the woman that loved him and the person that knew him in minneapolis and knew how much he loved this city and do something for him. you know, do something for all the people that lost lives. >> it's been a little over a month since the verdict came back guilty for ex-officer derek chauvin. i'm wondering what your feelings about his trial, about him at this point. there is obviously a federal case in the works. and to some extent, you may have to live through that legal process for a long time to come. what sort of emotions do you have about that?

>> um, i've expressed before that try to look at derek chauvin when he was in the courtroom. i want him to know how much pain he has caused. i want all the officers to know they didn't just take floyd's life. they took away my way of life. they took away my children's way of life. they took away our community's way of life. they took away so much of the security we had in our city. we've always had problems, but this has obviously put minneapolis on edge. we're working to get where we need to be. but like i said, i'm not sure we're there yet but we're working on it. >> obviously the whole world knows the name george floyd. and to many he's the symbol of a movement. you obviously knew him as a person.

what do you hope his legacy is? >> well, you're right, the world knows him as george floyd. and i continue to say that george floyd is a movement. floyd, or big floyd like we called him in minneapolis, he was a man that we all loved. and floyd always believed in inclusiveness, togetherness, taking care of people in need. and i remind people that floyd stood for people that needed help, and that included the homeless population, the youths, our elderly population. and he really focused his entire life around helping people. so i encourage people to take on what he -- his efforts began in this world, so continue to reach out to those in need.

continue to put your money in good places where they need it. and that's what he would have wanted. he hated to see people struggle. he would help anybody he passed on the street that needed help. that's what i think this society needs right now. we need a lot of love, we need a lot of hope, we need a lot of what floyd stood for. >> courteney ross, i really appreciate you talking to us. thank you. >> thank you, anderson. we'll get some perspective on this day from van jones, cnn political commentator and former special adviser to president obama. van, you just heard from george floyd's girlfriend. what stands out to you about this past year, about where we are a year from his death? >> first, i just want to say, you know, these families, they're unbelievable.

nobody signs up for this role. this is not a situation that anybody wants. and yet over and over again you found the people who history or fate, you know, drags out of their lives and throws in front of these cameras and throws in front of congressional hearings, are just beautiful people. it just speaks to the humanity of the folks who are not famous, who are not rich, not powerful, who don't get a chance to write the laws or make the media happen. there's so much beauty and dignity in this country. and people shouldn't have to go through this. if people are going to go through this and they can reach down and find the kind of humanity she just showed and stick up for the best of him and the best of their hometown, the lawmakers need to do the same

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police officers are not saints or superheroes. they're city employees. and you have some that are good and some that are bad and you have -- anybody can get off track. but when you see anybody in trouble, maybe they're acting up, maybe they're having a bad day. you know, you've got a lot of people. it's not just that person you might be arresting. that person has a family. the people who care about them. and they need to be present in

the interaction between -- when law enforcement shows up. >> van jones, i appreciate it. thank you so much. up next, the former president has just weighed in on the breaking news tonight, the report that a grand jury has been convened to weigh potential charges involving him or his company. we'll be right back. pay for clean. it's got to be tide. what does it mean to be a hero? ancestry helped me learn more about the man behind the medal. he was a father to two young daughters. he was a scout and he knew the land better than anyone. he came from italy with nothing for a new life.

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