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violence. the massacre happened in the greenwood section of tulsa. reports at the time say 36 people were killed, historians believe the death toll might have reached 300. president biden is scheduled to visit tulsa next week to take part in an anniversary ceremony. that's it for us, the news continues. want to hand it over to chris for cuomo prime time. hope you have a good weekend. thank you very much. we're awaiting a big vote tonight in the senate. could happen on our watch. the trump party is expected to block legislation to create a bipartisan commission to investigate the insurrection, and why? well, this is the offered explanation. >> i do not believe the additional extraneous commission that democratic leaders want would uncover crucial new facts or promote healing. >> how does he know already that there would be no new facts? it's an odd thing to say, isn't
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it, it's also odd that mr. mcconnell asked his colleagues a personal favor to oppose this commission, that's according to one of the republicans he pressured. why would this be so important for him. after all, this is the man who said trump was responsible for january 6th. remember? doesn't he want that assertion of his to have findings behind it. 35 republicans in the house thought the terrorist attack of january 6th, all the groups that coordinated weeks out to come to that bloody result, hunting them as they secured the democratic process. they thought it was worth investigating earlier this month. suffer and succotash, even senator lindsey graham was once for it. >> we need a 9/11 commission to find out what happened to make sure it never happens again. >> hmm, now he says he opposes the house passed bill with the excuse that a commission will turn into a partisan food fight. let's be honest, once again,
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common sense is going to lose out to the nonsense of feelty. this is just as simple as choosing trump over the truth once again. this is what trump brought to bear. you see the red hats, these are his people. he made them angry. he gave them the incentive to act, and they took it. and now his party, because they too are acting at his direction, are choosing better to cover for terrorists who attacked the capitol, better to whitewash history, better to call them tourists and peaceful patriots than to do or say anything that may sully the teflon don or more importantly ruffle the feathers of his followers that are key to that party's shrinking base. even the mother of fallen capitol police officer brian sicknick had a hard time convincing republicans to meet, let alone to do what is right on the hill today.
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13 republicans senators declined to meet with her. here's her thought. >> this was to up hold the constitution, and right now, i don't think they're doing it. >> gladys sicknick, she calls not meeting with her a slap in the faces, or not picking a commission, a slap in the faces, of all the officers like her son, remember, there were about 140 who did their job on the 6th, protected the people now who don't want to look into the situation, 140 were hurt or maimed. now, when they vote against this bill, they will be saying that those people don't matter. but remember, a slap in the face to the mother of a fallen police officer, they can handle that because there's only one face they deare not slap. as we wait for this vote, let's bring in retired lieutenant army general russell honray, led the
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review of capitol security after the attack, and wrote the report that's the basis for the bill, joins us now on prime time, good to see you, sir, as always. >> good afternoon, sir. >> let me ask you, you surprised that there's going to be no commission? >> i'm very disappointed would be a better description, chris. on that day, my assessment, we had a failure of government. our government didn't work. our department of homeland were on their, the fbi, the department of justice, the secret service, the department of defense, the government didn't work that day. if government was working, it's no way we wouldn't have had response forces there to help the capitol police, and if not for the help of the metropolitan police from the district of columbia, god knows what would have happened at the capitol that day. our government failed. we need to figure out why did it
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fail, and we need to respect those officers, as you said, that were hurt, the ones killed with a proper investigation as to what happened so we can prevent this from happening again. look, when the speaker, when leader mcconnell go home tonight, he will get in the black suburban. he has ten capitol police protect him 24/7, if he wants it. if he want to go out to dinner tonight, he'll go home, collect himself, and go to a fine restaurant. they will take him to dinner if he wants. if he want to travel out to his home back in kentucky, they will travel with him and they do. ten of them. now, how does he explain to them that nothing happened and the facts don't matter, when they protect him 24/7. this is a travesty of our democracy happening right here. >> congressman mccarthy says, no, this is a political hit job, and you were a political appointment, what do you say to
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him? >> well, i think he's more political than i am. i respect him, he's got the right to say what he want to say, but i'm not a democrat. and i'm not a republican. we did our jobs. this is what happened when you tell the truth. people that don't want to tell the truth will find a reason to degrade you. i've been there before, done that. i think we came close to the truth with our recommendations on increasing the police, hardening the capitol, increasing intelligence, have more dignitary protection. provide the capitol police with better instruments with the architect to have surveillance and fences that could come out of the ground. what's political about that. i don't see that as a political, he has a right to his opinion, and he told me that to my face. it's not the first time i heard it. why, when he goes home tonight, he will get in one of those black suburbans, and there will be eight or ten capitol police taking him where he wants to go,
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and taking him home to california. this is an absolute travesty to respect those officers who protect them 24/7. >> let me ask you this, general, the joint intel report calls racially and ethnically motivated hate groups the most lethal domestic threat. you found that threats to lawmakers have increased four fold since a year ago, and there's a cross section between these threats. how do we fight this threat without actually understand how it coalesced to create this moment on the 6th? >> well, first of all, chris, we don't have adequate laws on the books to track potential domestic terrorism. we track terrorism, foreign terrorism very well. and have done that pretty successfully since 9/11, but domestic terrorism, you can go look and you can ask the experts, we don't have sufficient law that empowers the fbi and local and state
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officials to track potential domestic terrorism. we can only do something if they act. and i was talking to one senior staffer about why we didn't have that law, and his flippant answer was because domestic terrorists vote. they participate in the process. the congress need to fix that by creating a law so we can track where they're doing, where they're talking, monitor, as well as to go intervene before they act. >> do you think not having the commission will make it more likely that we have a mistake and don't handle something well again? >> i think it increased the probability. i would want to think government has learned a lesson that the fbi, the department of homeland security will be working in concert with the capitol police as well as the park police and the rest of them in the capitol area to prevent this from happening. i want to believe that tell be
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able -- what happens if it happens at 3:00 in the morning. domestic terrorism don't have to have a big footprint to be able to show up in their trucks with their guns and go against the capitol. what's going to happen when that happens? that's why we recommended a national guard quick reaction force. there are members that don't want that. they don't want the national guard on stand by at the armory. the current system for getting support to the capitol police worked well if it's a saturday afternoon and you can organize it and get a permit, but what happens if we get another attack from domestic terrorism going after the capitol? >> and now there's one opportunity -- >> at 3:00 in the morning. >> here's an opportunity to ask those questions and come up with solutions that it doesn't look like we're going to have. let me take this opportunity here, general, i'm sure you know men and women who died in service to this country, and i honor their memories and your service to this country as well. thank you for helping us tonight. god bless you and the family. >> remember, memorial day, we --
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>> that was a tough time to lose him. i'm sure he was going to say something about we remember the people who made a sacrifice so we can do better in this place, certainly better than we're doing right now. sorry i lost the general. more pressure tonight on the man who holds the secrets of trump's finances. prosecutors may be trying to flip allen weisselberg, now, you've heard this before. how do they get somebody to flip by getting information that is bad for weisselberg, maybe that has something to do with the inaugural scandal. what does someone who worked on the inaugural committee know? stephanie winston walcoff is here, former close confidant to melania trump. she knows what happened on the inaugural committee. was weisselberg involved? next. ♪ ♪ and they're always glad you came ♪
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special grand jury in new york means, especially when it comes to trump and his top money man, allen weisselberg, so i think the speculation doesn't help anything. court documents, they help something. especially if you're looking scandal for scandal. people tend to work in patterns. remember, the d.c.a.g. is running an active civil investigation into the trump inaugural committee. that was also part of the trump organization's kind of extended reach, same players, same dynamics, and certainly court documents there show a similar scheme. trumpers inflating rates, which quote, improperly served to enrich the trump entities and its owners. e-mail records surfaced by mother jones, show once again weisselberg is right in the middle. engaging in detailed correspondence and a break down of each expense. the difference, in the d.c.
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case, no grand jury secrecy, we know who was talking and what they're saying, that includes the president's family, ivanka, donald trump jr., both asked directly about weisselberg's role, a man who has worked with their father and grandfather their entire lives. both claimed not to know much. you know who does know, our next guest, stephanie winston wolkoff. she for the last three years has been working with investigators in new york and d.c. about her time in trump world, her book is "melania and me," but there's a lot more to her story. good to have you back. thank you for taking the opportunity. >> thank you for having me, chris. >> so from what you saw and experienced, do you believe that there could be a connection between over paying for a hotel in the inaugural process and what they're looking at in new york? >> i think there is most likely definitely a connection, chris, and as you said earlier, the
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facts speak for themselves in black and white. >> allen weaisselberg, you did not deal directly with him, but from what you understood, what was his role and how important was it? >> you know, alan weisselberg's name never came up once during the planning of the inauguration so when the deposition was released that i was a lead witness for the united states attorney general district of columbia, i was astounded that all of the inaugural invoices, audits were sent over to alan's office to the trump organization, which is the parent company for all of trump's entities. you know, ivanka in her deposition refers to it as the umbrella company, you know, don jr. refers to it as another brand name, but it is the trump org that rules the roost, and the chickens have come home to
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roost, and the facts are the facts and so now that he is no longer president he's going to have to answer these questions. >> you talk about the deposition. i know that one of the aspects of it is an e-mail of weisselberg asking for detailed inaugural revenue break downs, doug if you would be so kind sending me the latest report reflecting all revenue broken down by its sources as well as a detailed disbursement schedule by vendor, it would be greatly appreciated. what insight did you gain looking at the deposition about what that meant about what weisselberg knew? >> look, i'm sitting here today, chris, three years in. it's taken over my life, this investigation, as a lead witness. grand jury subpoenaed from the southern district of new york all the way, you know, to the intelligence committee and now usdc. it is really alerting and alarming that the trump organization's role in not only being paid by the pick, the inaugural committee, inflated
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prices, not market rates, which they insist, but as well as having authority overthe finances of the $107 million. i was there calling this out five years ago, but really, you know, 2008, 18, i was calling o the inconsistencies, the irregularities, i had a big issue with all of that. and because of that, they threw me under the bus, but the reality is they put me in the is there of all of this, and i had spent three years figuring it all out, and connecting dots, and helping prosecutors, not because i wanted to but because i was subpoenaed to. >> if the former president says wolkoff knows it, weisselberg knew all of it, i was busy being president, what is the chance that the former president was aware of what kind of bilking and different things were going on that you're talking about. >> the former president donald j. trump knew everything that was going on during the planning
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of the inaugural. he was very much involved in the day-to-day activity, he loved it, and melania was as well. you know, when they say that they had no knowledge of how the finances were spent, as well as no involvement in the inaugural, that's just not true, and the facts, again, chris it's in the documentation. >> and you believe that this is a reflection of how the president would have had contact about his own business dealings about the trump administration, that weisselberg knew that trump knew, and how you see his family responding to questions in the depositions, you believe shows a pattern as well, how so? >> this is a pattern of the trump family, if they don't go along with what they want you to go along with, they will accuse you of those things themselves, they speak with such conviction, their pattern of conviction, their pattern of self-dealings,
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it is consistent over and over, and it's obvious when you've been where i was and seeing it happen as a witness firsthand, there's no doubt that this is something that goes on all the time. >> stephanie, i appreciate the insight, obviously there's a long way to go here and a lot more to learn, and i'm sure we'll be calling on you for your insight from time to time along the way so thank you in advance for helping us understand this story. >> thank you, chris. >> and wish you the best for the family. >> thank you, you too. >> all right. another aspect of news into trump world tonight, we're just learning about another federal investigation that we didn't know about it. reportedly involving rudy giuliani, ukraine, and the 2020 election. what is this one about? next.
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are investigating whether ukrainian operatives, the government, whatever, we don't know the full scope, medaled in the 2020 election to help donald trump. this investigation reportedly started when trump was still president, specifically, prosecutors from the eastern district of new york want to know if ukrainians were pushing misinformation through rudy giuliani. the former president's exlawyer doesn't appear to be a target of this investigation, at least not right now, which is confusing. instead, they're focused on a member of ukrainian parliament named andre durkosh. here's what giuliani said about him on this show at the time. >> you know our government sees andre durkosh, as a guy who should not be respected or trusted and they think he's propaganda and operative for the russians. >> that's okay. they can see him that way. >> he didn't believe that about durkosh, the government did. then we had a man on the show
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who had worked for the ukrainian president while this was going on and said that durkosh was absolutely funneling information and that rudy was well aware of that and making demands and requests of them as part of the exchange. so let's bring in elie honig who knows the turf from his time as a federal prosecutor in new york. elie, why would it be that rudy's not in trouble but the ukrainian guy is? >> yeah, it's a great question, chris, and it comes down to what did rudy know, because if rudy knew that the ukrainians were trying to funnel false information to influence our election, he is part of the crime. if he did not know, then he's a dupe. there's good news and bad news. the good news is he's reportedly not a subject of the eastern districts of new york's investigation. they don't believe he's somebody likely to have criminal liability.
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i have seen that change. i have seen people go from non-subject to subject and sometimes target. it's all going to depend on how their investigation proceeds. >> i'm looking at the transcript of what the guy told me. the guy was one of the assistants. put elie up, please, split the screen with me. rudy was working with durkosh, he was giving him information. had he was pressuring them to kind of make good on these suggestions from durkosh, and suggesting what the man called quid pro quo. where did the government interests lie in this kind of investigation? >> yeah, so chris, it is a federal crime for any foreign interest to influence our election. robert mueller charged with trying to meddle with the 2016 elections. the southern district of new york is investigating rudy giuliani, he is a subject and a target of that investigation and
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the key question in the southern district investigation over in manhattan is was rudy acting on behalf of ukrainians. if the eastern district investigation turns up that kind of information, that could be used to hurt rudy in the investigation across the river in manhattan. the southern district. >> what's the chance that ukrainians ever stand trial in the united states. i don't understand what the point of the investigation is. shouldn't this be an intelligence, you know, matter where instead of a prosecution, it's an intelligence operation? >> yeah, there's almost no chance any ukrainian based in ukraine faces arrest and trial. >> there's no extradition treaty. >> exactly. so, yeah, i think there's two purposes here. one is to sort of make the record. mueller brought these charges that he probably knew he would never be able to make arrests on. it's important that we know. the other thing is you don't know where an investigation is going to lead. the eastern district could well find information that's incriminating to rudy giuliani. if so, by the way, i want to
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say, in an ideal world, they would share with the southern district. i'll tell you firsthand, there's a long history of rivalry, eastern district is brooklyn, queens, long island, southern district is manhattan and bronx. we don't always play nicely together, sdny, we used to have turf battles with them all the time. the better way to do it is to share information. if brooklyn, eastern district finds information that's incriminating to rudy ha shows he was working on fwbehalf of ukraine, i would hope they would share it with the southern district so it can be properly used. >> while i have you, weisselberg, what we were having in the last conversation about any kind of patterned understanding of what happened during the inaugural process versus what happens with business as usual and what that could mean in terms of the ability to manipulate weisselberg to help in an investigation against others, what do you think?
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>> all indications including from ms. winston wolkoff, all of my focus is on trying to flip alan weisselberg, if you flip him, he has the keys to the castle. if you don't it's going to be a much more difficult case to make. >> i appreciate you helping us, especially on quick notice. we just found out about this. former house speaker, paul ryan reemerging, you remember him. he was supposed to be kind of this new bridge character republican but not like some crazy extremist, and trump came, and he wound up going along with the tax cut he would have never gone for before, and now he's expected to call on his troubled party to reject trump. that's not what he did when he was in there. competing voices like matt gaetz say republicans should reject ryan. a whole lot of drama, next.
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and here's the reality that we have to face. if the conservative cause depends on the populous appeal of one personality or of second rate imitations, then we're not going anywhere. >> very interesting. former house speaker paul ryan just moments ago criticizing trump and his hold on the party. where was that when he was speak of the house, when he mattered, when he was shifting the power was sliding toward toxicity that he said he would never embrace. now he seems to be picking a side in the gop civil war, and those, i guess, were fighting words to trump lap dog congressman matt gaetz who spoke earlier tonight in georgia, alongside the qanon lady. >> taking advice on party building from paul ryan would be like taking advice on how to
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interact with your in-laws from meghan markle. >> so who reverberates louder with the gop right now? the man who shared the presidential ticket with mitt romney or the man under federal investigation who's on a bizarre tour with the qanon, we all know the answer, but let's ask charlie dent, former member of congress, and somebody who's a struggling republican right now. look, the answer is nobody cares what they're going to hear from the former speaker. and they are doing everything they can to stay out of the way of gaetz and of the qanon lady. so what does that tell you? >> what it tells me is that we simply need to marginalize the wing nuts of the party, i mean, rather than embrace them. paul ryan is sitting on the board of a competing network that has given a platform to matt gaetz and others. you know, who are mouthing these
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crazy conspiracy theories, you know, promoting the big lie. i'm really glad that paul ryan is speaking up, but for too long, too many in power enabled donald trump. we know that. i mean, look, on free trade, conservatives talk, we're all free traders, right, what do they do, i beg them to put up bills on the floor to stop donald trump from imposing tariffs on canada in the name of national security. they chose not to because they didn't want to upset him and his base and members of the conference who could then throw him out of power. this is the problem we're facing. until they're willing to stand up and fight him publicly, and not talking just complaining behind closed doors, but talking loudly. they're not going to win this fight. we need people to join the fight. >> well, how does paul ryan fit in. he capitulated when he was in power. he went along with the tax cut he would have never gone along with, unpaid for tax cut.
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he didn't go out after trump. when trump would say things he never would have tolerated, he got pushed, came up with all the little side antics and all this stuff that he did, now he's learned something or is this just a lesson that when you're not in power, you can say the right thing, but when you are, you don't. >> well, first, i'm a friend of paul ryan, i'm glad that he is speaking up somewhat belatedly. he was always somewhat stressed and tortured throughout this process. i mean, he wanted to push back against donald trump, a few times he did in 2016 during the access hollywood, only to have his legs taken out from under him by many of his members. i had asked speaker ryan and others in leadership at the time to stage an intervention with then president trump in early 2017 because of all the craziness that we have been dealing with, the travel bans, and other issues that we had to confront with him. but the truth is too many were simply afraid to confront him publicly. behind closed doors they would have some intense conversations
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but they didn't want to do it, and that's the harsh reality, and that's what's so disappointing about today. when liz cheney is standing up there and adam kinzinger and others who really put their necks out there, not enough have joined them in the fightm. that's what's so surprising about this. many feel the way they do. many members in the house republican feel the same way, as well as republicans feel the same way cheney, and . >> you're really dealing with handful of people. isn't that what today is all about, charlie? i mean, this january 6th commission, it's an act of terror, the first insurrection on the capitol since the civil war, and nobody wants to look at it. senator mcconnell asking for personal favors for people to vote to block this. there's only one reason, which is it's bad for trump, so stay away from it. i mean, hasn't the fight over your party already ended?
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>> no, i think it's still -- i think it's still raging, to be perfectly candid, chris. i think it is raging and by the way, personal favors, you know, members would ask another member for a personal favor on an issue that would affect their district specifically. can you help me, my district really needs this, not on a matter of conscience, not on any consequential policy matter. i never had a leader ask me for a personal favor, just help me out. the issue is, yes, they don't want to engage donald trump, but they also see this commission, this independent bipartisan commission, as something that will step on their message in the midterm. they want the midterm message to be about joe biden and the democrats, this kind of disrupts that. the thing is republicans are better off with a bipartisan independent commission than a partisan select committee that they will likely get. i think they're much better off with this bipartisan committee. >> they'll just call it a witch hunt, yourn know what i mean, terms of the people they want to
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please. even paul ryan, you mentioned something earlier i don't want people to ignore as a detail, he sits on the board of fox corporation, which has as its subsidiaries, fox news, look, if he really cared about the integrity of his party and staying away from the culture wars and focusing on your real principles, what's he doing sitting on that board? what kind of message does that send, charlie? >> look, no one understands how people in talk radio and at fox and elsewhere have monetized the conservative movement, how they have been able to make a lot of money by stoking anger and outrage and grievance. paul knows this. i've had conversations with him about this when he was speaker, he knows it so i hope he uses that position, you know, to try to get fox into a better place when it comes to these types of incendiary stories that they too often broadcast, particularly on
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opinion shows. they have many good standard news people. paul ryan understands this, and he can make a difference, and he can start deplatforming some of these nuts that they put on the shows there that we all know are causing problems with respect to, you know -- >> i've never heard him say anything about it, and he's now brand new to the board, and we'll see if he does. charlie, look, i get where you're coming from. you know, i grew up around real republicans. i married into a family with real republicans who are good people, who are character-driven people and care about the right things. that's not what your party is now, and i'm following it because as long as we have a two-party system, which i'm no particular fan of, you need two to tan goego, and if one of the broken or out for opposition, we'll never get anything done, charlie, and that's what we're seeing. last to you. >> conservatives for too long have talked about being conservative on certain policy matters. they haven't talked about
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conservatism in the sense of civic virtue, how about virtues like stability, order, discipline, incremental change. that's where, you know, think about edmond burke, they moved so far away from that. when trump came in, he was about chaos, disruption, disorder, these are anathema to conservative virtues, and values. talking about conservatism as policies on taxes and regulation, i think completely misses the point of the broader philosophical debate the party needs to go. >> who gets burdened by philosophy when you have power, charlie, right now it's just about power and whether or not they can keep it. i will keep the conversation going with you because we have to have optimism of the system getting into a better place, be well, and i wish you the best for the weekend. >> thank you. we have a big vaccination update, remember tracking how it's going across the country. cash incentives, they work, you're about to meet one of ohio's newest millionaires, and
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than $116 million in prize money that will be given away in dozens of drawings next month. here are the other states doing similar things. new york, maryland, oregon, colorado, all following ohio's lead. why? because it works. the vaccination rate has jumped 45% since the governor announced these special lotteries. critics note that pfizer opened up eligibility for young adults around the same time. okay. but here's the proof. vaccination rates for those above the age of 16 went from being down 25% the weekend prior to up 28% after the lottery was announced. last night, ohio awarded its first vaccamillion winners, a 14-year-old got a full college scholarship. ohio's newest millionaire is 22-year-old, i love this,
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22-year-old abbigail bugenske. abbigail bugenske how are you >> i'm doing well. i am doing great. thank you for asking. how are you? >> so, there's so many things i love about this. first, you had already been vaccinated because covid had really taken a toll on you, and you were kind of desperate to be able to get into a better position. help us understand. >> i just really wanted to return to normal, which i think a lot of people who got the vaccine early feel the same way. i was -- i got vaccinated the very first week that 16-plus could get vaccinated, and i am just encouraging everyone who is able to get vaccinated to get vaccinated. >> your parents' reaction when you walked into their house? you were screaming so that they thought i was crying and
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something was wrong. and what did you tell them? >> i came in screaming like you said, that i had won a million dollars. i'm pretty sure i was jumping around and waving my hands as well. i -- i don't know what else i could have said. i -- i won a million dollars. >> did any part of you think that it was a joke? there's so many scams out there now. >> oh, absolutely. when governor dewine called me initially, i asked if it was a prank call not once, but twice. the second time after he told me that i was ohio's newest millionaire. >> so once it sunk in -- or has it sunk in? what does this mean for you? how does life change? >> it hasn't sunk in. so i am still wondering how my life is going to change. i've been pretty isolated so far. i've talked to a couple media
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outlets, but so far nothing dramatic -- too dramatic for me yet. i've said a couple times that i'm planning on buying a car, donating to a couple charities, but nothing like buying a lamborghini or anything like that. >> what about work? you work at general electric. does this change your life path at all? >> not right now. still planning on continuing my edison role there. maybe an early retirement, but that's -- that's a long ways away for me. >> you know, you are -- you want to pursue a graduate degree in aerospace engineering. you're an engineer now at ge. usually people think that lotteries are for suckers, and certainly stem people like you, you know, math and applied math
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and science people, don't go in for the lottery because the chances are too random. what made you do it? >> so i had already been vaccinated like we talked about. so there wasn't much of a cons list. i had to put my name in the vax-a-million site, and it was kind of one of those why nots. and who knows, it could be me. and here we are. >> wow, it's just -- good for you. and, look, the bigger good is that it's working in the state right now, right? because ohio was kind of middle of the pack. i think it was middle of the country in terms of vaccination rate, and now you're seeing it go up. a lot of people your age don't get the vaccine. they don't think they need it. either they've had it and they were basically symptom-free or they didn't have it at all. what do you say? >> personally, i think whatever i can do to protect anyone that i'm going to be coming into
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contact as the covid restrictions are lifted, i'm going to -- i'm going to participate in that. >> good for you. so the first splurge is going to be a car. is it true that you're looking at a used car? >> yes. >> frugal. >> that hasn't changed. >> i like it. >> i have a test drive for a used car planned for this afternoon that did not end up happening, but definitely still looking at used cars, yes. >> well, look, i wish you all the best. this is a great windfall in your life. i hope you use it to help yourself and your family, and i also hope that the example shows that anybody can win this, and it can be a life-changer. and all it takes is doing the right thing to begin with, which is making yourself safe for others by getting vaccinated. so good luck, abbigail. i look forward to the next chapter. >> thank you so much. >> all right. we'll be right back.
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this is my last show as we enter into the memorial day weekend, and i think that we should approach it a little differently than we have in the past. here's my humble suggestion. this is kind of the first big deal since we re-entered our phasing into normal since the pandemic, and it is an often abused occasion. you know, it's beer and barbecues, happy memorial day. we're supposed to be remembering the sacrifice of those who died, so how? how? we have become a society that increasingly talks about the people that they don't like, that they oppose. we're chippy. we're petty. we have social media. you can say it anonymously. you can say it without the person being there. we don't talk to one another, and it's a mistake.
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and i believe that when you look at memorial day and honoring the sacrifice of those who died, why? why did they die? because it was their job. because they were young. because they went in. because they were believed. because they were patriots. there are a lot of reasons. but at the end of the day, the sacrifice was a function of them finding in themselves the desire for the rest of us to do things better. and a think a big way to do that is to try and take the opportunity and talk to someone that you have a problem with or you don't agree with, not about them. see if we can use the sacrifice of others to give us a chance to do things better there and actually do it. thank you for watching. d. lemon tonight starts right now. >> you already changed the name of my show. >> well at least i got it close to right. better than you. >> i think it's seven years or longer i've been saying cnn tonight. but, you know, it's bound to change. if i can just -- i don't disagree with you, so don't take this the wrong way. >> how c
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