in a few weeks in geneva when they meet biden will be able to judge. >> fantastic and incredible to watch. that is just what we do. well, thanks very much for joining us. a.c. 360 starts now. good evening and we begin with what president biden is calling a threat to american democracy. yesterday the president said democracy is in peril and today in tulsa, oklahoma marking the 100th anniversary of the greenwood race massacre, he spoke out against the state by state effort to enact restrictive voting laws. >> this sacred right is under assault with incredible intensity like i have never seen, even though i got started as a public defender and civil rights lawyer with an intensity and aggressiveness we have not seen in a long, long time. it is simply un-american.

it is not, however, sadly unprecedented. >> the new laws they are pushing are based on the election lies still being told by the former president and we got word that the man in mar-a-lago has word he will soon return to office. trump has been telling a number of people he expects he will be reinstated by august. keep in mind, there is no such thing as a former president being reinstated and even if there was, he won't be. the image of a former president milling around in his florida club talking to anyone about phony election results and imaginary ballots is rather sad and pathetic. it has real world consequences. republican politician pres hopio be noticed are trying to enact laws based on his lies.

limiting voting. curtailing investigation into the insurrection. some followers of his, now selling qanon merchandise online and repeating qanon favored slogans at times supports a coup against president biden. why a myanmar style -- >> i want to know why what happened in myanmar can't happen here. >> no reason. i mean it should happen. no reason. that's right. just as he has every time his q curious statements have gotten him in trouble, lieutenant general flynn is trying to gas light people into what he said was the opposite. a former military officer shocking or should be. i recently talked w-- has there

been another point in american history where democracy was as threatened as it potentially is now? >> the civil war. >> yeah. >> beyond the civil war, no. certainly nobody's living memory. not mixon or roosevelt or mccarthyism. democracy never has been under threat in this way. and we do not consider ourselves particular alarmistists and now we are convinced there is a serious chance the republican party tries to steal the 2024 election. i think republicans learned there are levers they can pull to throw out ballots of rival strongholds based on false allegations of fraud or based on

technicalities. >> they are 2 of 100 scholars of democracy who today warned our entire democracy is at risk and continue that elected republican leaders had numerous opportunities to repudiate trump and his stop the steal crusade leading to the violent attack on the u.s. capitol. each time they side-stepped the truth skpeand enabling the lie spread. including suspending the filibuster to pass laws guaranteeing the votes to all-americans equally and preventing state legislatures from manipulating rules in order to manufacture results. quoting their closing words our dplx -- >> anderson, he wants to push

back on the efforts to suppress voting rights and to restrict them as we have seen playing out in several states following the 2020 election. and president biden said part of that involves putting the vice president in charge of getting the push on capitol hill to get the major legislation on election laws and voting rights passed through congress. but of course, anderson, that will be a very tough job given they langished after passing the house because they are up against a divided senate and don't even have all of the democrats on board, something the president alluded to today. >> i hear all of the folks on tv say why doesn't biden get it done. well because biden only has a majority of effectively four votes in the house and a tie in the senate with two members of the senate who vote more with my republican friends. but we are not giving up. >> now that comment there at the

end, directed at senator joe manchin, the two moderate democrats. it is not true they vote more with republicans than democrats but they are not always a guaranteed democratic vote and senator manchin does not support the bill on capitol hill, the one that would change election law. he was acknowledging how tough it will be and how tough the job will be for the vice president. >> what are the next steps? i mean, you know, are there plans that the white house has? >> i think the next step really depends on what lawmakers do. you have seen senator schumer say he will bring the election law bill to the floor in a matter of weeks and it will increase pressure on a lot of the lawmakers. the question is are you going to get the democratics and ten senate republicans to vote for this, anderson. right now they do not have this. do they go another route or introduce a new legislation that

could get republican support and get the democrats on board and keep the democrats on board or do they explore abolishing the filibuster. several texas democrats called on them to look at that because it is so important to get something like this passed through congress, otherwise we will face the efforts in all of the states and seeing the election laws being introduced by republicans and potentially even passed. >> appreciate it. thanks. joining us now senator amy klobuchar, good to see you. the president is calling efforts to restrict voting an unprecedented assault on our democracy. is that how you see it? >> i do. and i chair the rules committee in the senate. i had to listen to the arguments made by republican senators, including that putting some basic federal minimum standards in place so that people can vote safely how they choose, whether it is vote by mail or voting early. they opposed that and claimed it

would create chaos. chaos is people standing in the rain in milwaukee waiting to vote or chaos is a voting drop off box in the middle of harris county texas with over 5 million people. chaos is what you saw in georgia when the former president, or as you call him the man from mar-a-lago. when the former president went after election officials and put them at personal risk. that is chaos. that is why you see growing public support for the for the people act, including for the provisions on money and dark money and getting it out of the pockets and including on the ethics reform, a third pillar of the bill. >> i mean all of the talk about drop boxes and limiting drop boxes. any evidence you have seen that drop boxes pose a great risk for voter fraud? >> no. this is just another example. and his moving floor speech in

the senate said that this is just about one simple thing. it is some people do not want some people to vote. and most parties, when they lose a major election, they change the policies. they figure how they can reach out to voters better. what these guys are doing is they are trying to change the voters. we didn't like when 8 million people more voted federally. we are going to roll back the provisions that you did not have to get a notary and have them sign it through a window of a hospital room when you had covid just to be able to cast your vote. those are the kinds of arguments that i dealt with on the committee. we got the tied vote that we needed. i know it sounds like a small thing, anderson, but it allows the procedure to take place where senator schumer can ultimately get the bill to the floor, where i will be advocating and i will be leading the effort to get this done. >> you heard president biden

taking a poke at your democratic colleagues, acknowledging the unlikely hood of getting votes rights legislation passed as long as the filibuster is in place. do you believe the filibuster should be abolished and if not how can democrats get stuff done? >> i believe it should be abolished. it should be abolished because it is an archaic procedure put in place many, many years ago, used to try to stop civil rights legislation being used again. being used last week to stop the january 6th commission. where we could have done a thorough review that we need to do to look at the insurrection. i guess these guys are into an endless insurrection at this point, and that is why we need to change the rules. i will note that senator manchin signalled a willingness to look at a standing filibuster that would be different and force our colleagues not to hide behind their desks but getting out

there and speaking day after day if they want to stop the bill ins it tracks. we have a number of reforms to have secretary of states, democrat and republican in the bill. i put together a big manager's package that basically was responded to a lot of concerns from west virginia. but the republicans voted it down. and joe manchin is aware of the work we have done and could do to make changes to the bill. so, i would stay tuned. once we get it to the floor it will be a jump ball, anderson. and we need to get this done. >> what do you hope is the next step, or is there a next step on the idea of some sort of a commission looking into the insurrection? >> that was one of the saddest days, the fact that we had i think six republicans vote with us to move that along. and there are many ways and

speaker pelosi has outlined these, the president could appoint a commission and you could also have a number of committees deal with it or they could have a select commission. i am open to all of the ideas at this point and opening to revisiting the 9/11. stay tuned. next week we are putting out our report, not a substitute for a 9/11-style commission about january 6th, but it has very pointed recommendations and changes that need to be made. the capitol police board, changes that we have to make legally so that it never happens again. there were two very long public hearings on this where democrats and republicans got a chance to ask questions, and we also questioned witnesses in the last few months. i will be coming out with that but it is no substitute for a 9/11 style commission.

>> these comments by michael flynn, retired three-star general. she called it sedition. do you think it is? >> he basically is advocating a military coup. oh, that could happen here. i would note the man from mar-a-lago has basically pardoned general flynn and gave him a pardon. now you have him engaged in an endless insurrection, continuing to question our democracy. to question the pillars of our democracy and all of the questions that we talked about today, anderson. the failure to do a 9/11-style commission on january 6th. the failure to be willing to do something always bipartisan, reforms to the elections to make them work better.

the endorsement of a military coup. this is what is so care scary about our democracy. i refuse to believe we are going to let an archaic provision called the filibuster to stand in the way of our democracy. like joe biden said today, this is an assault on the democracy. we must respond. i don't think it is just democrats. i think it is republicans and independents and i will end with this on this. trevor potter, the former chair of the federal election commission under george bush is a fervently strong supporter of the for the people act and testified for me on the bill at our hearing because he believes that the dark money from the outside, and what is going on with the voting rights, at some point we stand up for democracy. that is what matters the most. >> senator klobuchar, thank you. >> coming up next, given what we have been discussing two members

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>> we're talking about what president biden called the threat to democracy manifested in republican resistance to investigating the most recent assault on it and efforts to pass restrictive voting laws. president biden praised the get out the vote effort in 2020 and said it will not be enough this time. >> we overcame. today let me be unequivocal. i have been engaged in this work my whole career and we are ramping up efforts to overcome again. i will have more to say about this at a later date, a truly unprecedented assault on our democracy. replacing election

administrators and intimidate those charged with tallying the election results. today, i urged voting rights group in the country to begin to redouble their efforts now to register and educate voters. >> joining us now david axelrod and abby phillips. you were there for today's remarks by the president seeming to take a swipe at senator joe manchin. did it surprise you? clearly he needs him on his side. >> it is surprising for joe biden to do that because he typically does not like to alienate people he might need for future negotiations and likes to rely on the relationships he has had for a long time especially with joe manchin but it signals frustration, not just on biden's

part but on the part of the white house and democrats at-large with manchin in particular. and seeing that manchin has a realization that republicans are not necessarily willing to come to the table on reasonable things, and there is no movement on the senator's part to change his approach to legislation. i think that is what biden was reflecting today in the speech. the question is what now. you know, it is not clear to me that the white house will dramatically change their strategy on legislation that does not involve their infrastructure proposal, which still remains a top priority for them even after his remarks today on voting and the january 6th commission. >> what is your take on his remarks? >> yeah. i was surprised by it. i wonder if it was worded precisely the way that he wanted it. clearly they don't vote more

with republicans than democrats. they certainly vote more with republicans than many democrats vote with republicans, but he does need them. this is something lost in the discussion often. people say why do they negotiate with republicans. why don't they just go it alone. you can't go it alone without 50 votes and manchin and sinema are not on board with many key things biden cares about. he is about the business on infrastructure trying to cut a deal by brand and belief, i think he wants to do that and wants to demonstrate that he made a good faith effort to do that so he can go back to him say now what do we do and how do we get things done. but it is a very, very difficult situation. i experienced it in the white house. just because someone has a d

next to the name does not mean you automatically have their vote and it does require negotiation with your own team. >> much was made of senator manchin calling republican senators unconsciousable for failing to pass the january 6th commission and does not seem to have edged him more towards abolishing the filibuster though. >> no it really does not have changed his overall approach. he seems just as committed to bipartisanship as he was before. but in some form it might be possible. the problem is, is it going to be ten votes. that is what they need to overcome the filibuster. if approximate it is not ten votes is there a point manchin said we got three or four. for me, let's move it forward. i think it is not clear if he is at that point yet. everything is being held up

here. if the january 6th commission is important to joe manchin, i think a lot of democrats say the issues of voting which are deeply intertwined with the january 6th insurrection should also be just as important to him. >> david, barring abolishing the filibuster do democrats have any other options? >> certainly on issues like this voting rights bill they do not. they are not going to get ten republicans to go along with them. the infrastructure bill has the best chance. i think what biden wants to do is to demonstrate to manchin that a good faith effort was made and they are not there. but i think i was interested in amy klobuchar's comments a few minutes earlier saying that manchin has indicated he might support reforms of the filibuster that will make

filibustering legislation harder. and there has been talk bouncing around over the last few months about whether there might be a carve out for voting legislation as there is for judges and maybe that will be an avenue. but right now it is a tough road forward. >> thanks very much. appreciate it. coming up, what to make of the remarks by retired general michael flynn. do they qualify as sedition? that is next when we continue.

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the comments by retired general michael flynn endorsing a military coup are resonating tonight after speaking at a conference in dallas over the weekend. he was responding to a question from the audience. here they are again. >> i want to know why what happened in myanmar can't happen here. >> no reason. i mean it should happen. no reason. that's right. >> no reason. i mean it should happen here. no reason he said. later, after his remarks were criticized he claimed the words were twisted saying let me be clear. there is no reason whatsoever for any coup in america and i do not and have not called for any

action of that sort. he said he did not say there is no reason a myanmar style coup shouldn't happen here. you can listen to it one more time. >> i want to know why what happened in myanmar can't happen here. >> no reason. i mean it should happen. no reason. that's right. >> so, you can make up your own mind. if he did say it, it won't be the first time. here is what he said to newsmax about martial law being imposed. >> he could order the swing states if he wanted to, he could take military capabilities and place them in the states and re-run an election in each of those states.

it is not unprecedented. >> it is. martial law has been imposed 68 times during the nation's history and notably after the civil war and never under the circumstances flynn argued on newsmax. did i get it right? >> you did a good job. >> okay. thank you. is this sedition? we talked to a member of congress who thought it might be. >> under the ucmj there is a crime of sedition but you have to be careful about wondering if it is really criminal. you have to look at the actual

law. certainly there are arguments on both sides. you have someone that made this comment and has a history bordering on the idea. i think it would be a difficult case to prove in a vax ume but it is not impossible. >> general, you heard general flynn's commanding officer at one point and told the new yorker under your command he was smart, humble and funny. do you recognize the michael flynn of today? i mean, everybody i talked to who knew him in iraq and elsewhere said he was a remarkable officer. >> he was a remarkable officer. this form of mike flynn i do not recognize. it is more than just embarrassing. i would say mike enjoyed this incredible reputation in uniform. i was an incredible fan. i was blessed to serve with

mike. this is taking a great reputation and it is cratering that reputation. i am disheartened by all of it. i am glad we have kate to answer the question about sedition. when you take the oath of your commissioning, you know, we swear to uphold the constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic and that is not some adherence. you know that is part of our core. we take it forever. i do not think that you just embrace it when you are in uniform. out of uniform, you can speak freely. there are certain guard rails that you need to be conscious of. the military is an incredibly powerful organization. you learn the incredible skills. you also have to check yourself. that is what is good about being

a senior officer and the type of training that we get. >> who would make the decision on whether charges would or could be filed against general flynn or any other punishment. >> sure. it is complicated because he is retired. if they are recalled by at least the secretary of the army if not higher. in the military the command chain is the decision maker for any decisions, not the military prosecutors. so the command chain all the way up through the secretary and beyond could or would be the ones making the decision. there are currently active litigation regarding the constitutionality of court-martialing retirees in a military court-martial but not to say there is not accountability, because he can be prosecuted by the feds. he can be prosecuted by a state

entity. just because he is a military retiree, that is not the only option but it does bring potential consequences that a civilian court system couldn't impose on him, including taking his retirement to say the least. so, there are a lot of factors there, but to the extent that the military does criminalize sedition, military members have free speech rights even though they are more limited. you have to look at the line between a thought or an idea of something and taking any type of action. with sedition you you need to show there is a revolt or a disturbance created. if there is more evidence out there, planning or ideas or something more than the comment which he walked back on immediately that may change the landscape significantly. >> general, i remember speaking to you -- go ahead general. >> i was go to pile on to what

kate just said. there is a difference between legalese right and wrong. this is a incredibly gifted guy exercising poor judgment and it may be totally legal but it is totally dumbass. shouldn't happen. >> general, appreciate it. pleasure to have you on. more from president biden's statement in tulsa, more on that and about hiding history for future generations -- from future generations and fresh update on an vrmt about the effects of racial bias on children.

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is what great nations do, come to terms with their dark sides, and we are a great nation. that includes understanding how they pass on racial bias to young children. back in 2010 before the black lives matter movement and deaths of george floyd and so many others who were known, we began to study the effects of racial bias on kids, working with a renowned child psychologist, we recreated and updated the famous doll test that used black and white dolls to ask kids about differences in race. instead of using dolls, the folks used the identical drawings of children and asked questions like can you show me the smart child. the mean child. the child who has the skin color most adults like. children as young as five years old were mirroring subtle messages about race they were getting from their friends and from the world at-large and their families.

take a look. >> reporter: 5-year-old brielle was part of our study in 2010. why do you want that skin color? >> because it is lighter than this kind. this looks a lot like that one. i don't like the way that brown looks. it looks really messy for some reason but i don't know what reason. that is all. >> reporter: you think it looks nasty? >> not really but sometimes. >> reporter: what color adults don't like. do you remember what you said? that is right. why do you think adults don't like that color? >> dark. >> reporter: dark. you think adults don't like

dark? >> maybe some adults do but maybe some of them don't. >> reporter: and this is brielle, 11 years later. she loves music. sometimes she turns her feelings into songs. i spoke to her online. >> reporter: it is so nice to see you again. i feel incredibly old and you look incredibly young and amazing. so, how old are you now? >> i am 16 now, yep. >> reporter: i want to show you some of what you said to me so many years ago about the test that you took. >> why don't you think adults don't like that color? dark. maybe some adults do but maybe some of them don't. >> reporter: what do you think

hearing that now? >> i was kind of reflecting my thoughts of what i felt was projected on to me if that makes sense. how i felt that the world saw me. >> reporter: those were the messages you had been getting from the world around you? >> yes. exactly. >> reporter: pretty tough messages for a 5-year-old to receive. >> if it were me, imagine how many other 5-year-olds, you know, are receiving the same message. >> reporter: if you had a 5-year-old daughter one day and she said that to some reporter that came and asked her the same questions, what would you want to tell your daughter then? >> i would just want her to know that it does not really matter what society assigns to you as long as you know.

just that the people that matter know who she is and the people that matter love her and the people that matter are not those people. >> and she is beautiful. >> yes. she is amazing. >> reporter: in 2012 we conducted another study about children's attitudes on race including kids as early as 13. like jimmy. different than the subtle messages that brielle described, jimmy's were more overt. >> this morning it was the same racist jokes. >> what were some of the jokes? >> how do you get a black person down from the tree. yeah. you cut the rope. that one. i didn't find that very funny. >> this is jimmy today.

he moved to los angeles after high school to pursue a career in dancing. >> i think about that time in particular from 2012 until now. i knew that racism existed. i knew racism was a 1-2-3 inning in the 20s, 30s, 40s, 50s, so on and so forth. but as a kid, racism existed, like it was not still, you know, relevant. >> jimmy says that he grew up with friends of all different races, despite negative experiences he said supportive friends, teachers and family protected him from feeling the impact of racism. now he says that the killing of george floyd by a police officer last year and the movement growing out of it led him to a painful awakening about race in america and his own

vulnerability. >> j >> it said i have to drive my car in fear of being pulled over because my life is on the line. that is the reality we are living now. the reality of having my skin color, you can get pulled over for no reason and get shot. >> reporter: for brielle, a lesson she learned as a little girl. when did you first realize the different experiences with police many have compared to other races? >> early, honestly. i mean having a black father, i have definitely had experiences like that where i will be in the back seat and i have to see him, you know, go about things wisely because situations like that obviously are life and death. couldn't have been too long after the interview that i remember my first experience with my dad being pulled over and being in the back seat.

>> reporter: despite that she is as the last year has given her hope. are you optimistic about what your life will be compared to what obstacles others faced in generations before you? >> yes. i am because i do see the change that is taking place. i know it will not happen overnight and it might not happen in a lifetime. but if what my generation can do ends up pushing things forward for generations to come, yeah. i can be optimistic about that. >> jimmy does not share that same optimism but he is more determined than ever to show that his life matters. >> if i am being honest, i don't

feel like there will need to be changed. i just need to be the best black version of myself that i can be and glorify my culture the best way that i can. if you are going to keep killing us, you are going to know how great we are. >> we thank jimmy and brielle for taking part in the study that we did all of the years ago and talking again just recently. up next, the intensifying search for the gunman that killed two and injured 20 more in the miami banquet hall being rented ou

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authorities in miami say they're hunt for the gunman who staged a brazen attack that killed two, injured 21 outside a banquet thatle is still ongoing tonight. our randy kay has the story. >> reporter: outside the banquet hall where three gunmen opened fire over the weekend, the pain is still raw. >> oh, my god! >> reporter: this young woman

spent about an hour at the memorial, crying out for a loved one. others in the community also came to mourn. this woman brought a young child and placed pictures and a placard outside. with 2 dead, 21 injured and the suspects still on the run, the community and loved ones are reeling. on sunday in the hours after the shooting, the father of clayton dill lard ii, a 26 yerld who was killed showed up distraught, trying desperately to reach the body of his son. >> i want to see him, hold him, and let him know i love him! >> reporter: meanwhile, the search continues. m miami-dade police say they're following up on several tips and interviewing people. a spokesman for the miami-dade police confirmed they're searching for at least four suspects the. three armed suspects in ski masks who hopped out of the suv and shot at the crowd, plus the

driver of the suv. this security camera footage shows the suv pull up in the alley outside of the banquet hall, three armed suspects jump out and race down the alley. as they reach the corner they open fire on the crowd at the front door. the victims were waiting to get inside for a rap concert. it all happened in less than ten seconds. police say some in the crowd for armed and returned fire. others ran. two never had a chance. the shooters quickly jump back in the suv and drove off. later, a tip from someone in the community led police to that partially submerged nissan path finder suv in a canal. >> we're already processing the suv thanks to information received from the community, we were able to locate the vehicle. we're in the process of doing a forensic analysis of the vehicle. >> that suv had been stolen back in mid may. $130,000 in reward money is being offered to anyone who has

information leading to arrests. >> reporter: and tonight, anderson, miami-dade police are calling the investigation very active. they're saying the tips they're getting are turning out to be quite fruitful, so that is good news. i can el htell you here around hall -- i asked if they were able to get footage from any other businesses. i asked about a footprint or a finger print or clothing fiber in the suv. he said it's too earl to tell anyone about that in this investigation. >> randy kay, thanks very much. just ahead, a special programming announcement. we're going to have a preview of my interview with former president obama.

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