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a programming note. shortly before tonight's broadcast i sat down with former president obama here in chicago for an interview about his post presidential life and just being a dad. it's all part of a special 360 report airing next monday in this hour. discussing father mood, leadership and his legacy. again, that's next monday night, 8:00 p.m. eastern time here on cnn. the news continues. i want to hand it over to chris. for quote "prime time." >> all right, coop. that's going to be awesome. what a great time to have the former president in that kind of focus. good for you, good for us. i'm chris cuomo. welcome to "primetime" is. america getting better in the answer is yes, but only when we see past wrongs and work to right them. and so here we are on the 100th anniversary of the tulsa race massacre, the deadliest attack on black americans on u.s. soil,
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when as many as 300 in the thriving black wall street district were slaughtered by a white mob. that's the story. any mitigation of that is not the truth. and at the same time that we condemn this as obscene, as a reminder of what is wrong, we see in realtime today one of the greatest assaults on democracy under way once again targeting minorities. the party of trump intensifying its efforts to strip people of color of their rights to vote. the boldest attempt since the era of jim crow. president biden drew a through line in tulsa today. >> 100 years ago at this hour on this first day of june, smoke darkened the tulsa sky. this was not a riot. this was a massacre.
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i come here to help fill the silence. because in silence, wounds deepen. what happened in greenwood was an act of hate and domestic terrorism. with a through line that exists today still. >> reporter: >> a through line, a throughline of hate. a through line means just because there's not another tulsa massacre doesn't mean the efforts are not equally unholy and un-american. those efforts that we've seen recently. the president referenced charlottesville, neo-nazis brandishing torches. a century later, hate crimes against jewish and asian-americans. a reminder that white supremacism is the threat to our homeland today. what really should scare us all
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is never in the modern era have we seen what should be relegated to the fringes. you know they're white supremacists but they have been kept in the modern era on the fringes of society. stay where you're supposed to be in the shadows. you deserve nothing else. you have the right to speak, but what you say is not right, and we'll not regard it as such. abject bigotry. now it's at worse embraced and at least minimized by an entire political party. and we know where this coddling gets us. we witnessed white terror in realtime at the capital on january 6th fueled by trump's big lie and the effort to capitalize on that lie has put our democracy in peril according to the current president. we know the numbers. since november, 48 states have introduced laws that they say are about voting integrity to
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wright what they say are allegations of fraud in this election. they have backed up none. the only thing that is clear is that these measures would restrict voting rights. 14 states have passed them already. remember, this was the most secure election in american history according to republican officials. trump's own federal officials. do you see? this is not a question of fact. it is not a good-faith debate. the president now sees this new attempt by texas as the continuation of a cancer, calling it part of an assault that's disproportionately targeting black and brown americans. texas state democrats derailed a restrictive voting bill by walking out of the state's legislature this weekend. what did that mean? there was no quorum.
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you couldn't hold a vote. now where trumplican governor is threatening to withhold pay from lawmakers, punishment to, make it harder. why? he wants to make it harder for texans to vote. we've got undo alleged voter fraud. not only did texas find no major fraud in the election, but this same governor, abbott, who now is selling the big lie, did not buy it back in march. here's the proof. >> right now i don't know how many or if any elections in the state of texas in 2020 were altered because of voter fraud. >> he doesn't know how many or if any. so you are going to endorse a restrictive remedy when you're not sure there was a wrong.
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look, there is no shame in their game, and that's what it is -- it is a game. it is a game of addition by subtraction. the party of trump will add to its chances of winning by reducing the number of minorities and poor who can vote, because they don't vote for trump and his minions. this bill in texas makes mail-in voting more difficult, bans afterhours and drive-through voting that helped black and latino voters in the houston area cast their ballots in 2020. it prohibits early voting on sundays. we know what this is about. you know about souls to polls events held by predominantly black churches on sundays. that's what that is about. texas wants to make it easier to overturn an election. to win out at a state level, you could do that. there's going to be a constitutional argument about
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whose right it is at some point. and elections have predominantly been run by the states. but if you take on this many laws in this many states as a function of litigation, it will take years and absolutely multiple election cycles to kick out even the most egregious and obvious examples. and so only congress can hold back the latest wave of jim crow. the for the people act and the john lewis voting rights act, they would go a long way. they're not going to fix everything. but here's the bigger problem -- biden has no path to passing either. he is in a senate that is split, and there seems to be no indication that you will have the filibuster get removed. so what option does that leave? are we just going to watch another mass attack on minorities unfold? better minds. we have one of the participants
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of that democrat congressional walkout in texas, state representative nicole collier, and also former republican u.s. congressman charlie dent. it's good to have you with us, nicole collier. thank you very much. the argument of, this is about remedying integrity lapses and fraud opportunities -- we'll put up on the screen what's in your state's bill, senate bill 7. when you look at these provisions, they say it makes mail-in voting more difficult. no, no, no, it makes it safer by limiting the window and who can collect them, and not having you vote after 9:00 make it safer, because there's not as much opportunity when staff falls off. drive-through voting, again, fewer opportunities for fraud. the less ways that people can vote. early voting on sundays. oh, that's about extra staffing. makes it easier to overturn elections. well, we have to be able to have the state level be able to police the local levels. those are the arguments. how do you see it?
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>> well, thanks, chris, you did a great recap of what's been going on in texas, and it is a big lie. we heard directly from the former secretary of state, who was in charge at the time of the 2020 election, say that our elections, this last 2020 election, were safe, secure, and successful. they won. what else do they want? well, they want your vote. just like you said, they're whittling away at every right people have by putting on those onerous requirements just to participate in their constitutional right to vote. so they put measures -- they basically criminalize innocent mistakes people may make, and they make it easier for you to file a civil lawsuit and find out how someone voted. so, yes, we need to have these measures passed. i was so proud to see our
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president at the site of the tulsa race massacre today, where he laid out that protecting the right to vote is a priority, and he called on the u.s. senate to end the filibuster and get that measure to his desk, get the john lewis measure to his desk, get the for the people act to his desk so he can sign it. >> charlie, are you hearing from any of your former colleagues who are saying, hold on, charlie, the media is painting these things all wrong. here's why we don't want to pass the federal legislation and override the states. what are the best arguments they give you? >> the best argument they give me to oppose the for the people act is there would be public financing of congressional campaigns. redistricting would be all done by independent commissions. and by the way, i support it. i was part of a commission to set up one. should that decision be made by congress or the states? there are some legitimate federalism questions to be raised in opposition.
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there are many good provisions in the for the people act, but i think they've overshot. they don't need to get in the public financing campaigns. they don't need to get into requiring states to set up redistricting provisions and there are other things that i think there's an overreach. >> you think if they strip those out you would have enough vote in the senate to pass it? >> i don't know. it would certainly help. i know not all democrats support it now about the campaign finance provisions. but like i said, i think they should focus their efforts more now on the john lewis voting rights act, the reauthorize it. i supported the reauthorization in 2006. we passed it overwhelmingly. i think we should be able to start there. i think there's plenty of opportunity to find a comp ro maize on the preclearance issues the court struck down several years ago. >> just to remind you guys at home, the court said the act of 1965 had been overbroad and you
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can't make states -- on the existing law, its own election laws and states through the federal government. it's state's domain, unless there's superceding legislation. representative collier, getting the john lewis voting act, is that the more important one in why mind that -- the laws you are fighting a losing battle against in texas right now? >> absolutely. the numbers don't lie. the republicans have a stronghold in the texas legislature. if we don't get the john lewis act or measures like that, we're going to see cameras in the polling location. poll watchers following, filming people at the polling location. we're going to see, show me your papers, for people before they can vote. we're going the see harmful measures that reduce polling locations in districts like mine, where people of color vote. so if we don't get action by
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congress, we will see continued efforts to reduce our voice at the ballot box. >> you don't see a lot of republican support, charlie, for reinstating the '65 -- forget about the 1965 act. you don't see support from republicans, vocally at least, for having a preclearance mechanism at the local level. federal level. that doesn't have anything to do with financing. >> that's right. i think one of the big challenges for the republican party right now is that it has overreacted to the 2020 election and donald trump's, you know, calling it a stolen election, which is of course false. that's been the problem. they know that this is all premised on a lie, that donald trump lost the election. but these same republican congressman and state legislators did very well, they all won their elections. the the democrats are going to steal an election for president, they would have stolen everything else, but they didn't, because there was no steal here. the truth is, in a state like mine in p.a., there is certainly room for some reforms the our
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election laws. there were administrative inconsistencies as to how votes were disqualified -- >> that's nothing new. we had the same dialogue with the boxes in reverse when the democrats lost close races last time. the only difference is they didn't decide to lie about it on a national scheme level. we don't have to look any parter than governor abbott. >> it didn't make any difference, by the way, in the outcome of the elections, but they need to clean it up. >> look, some elections, maybe it does. you go case by case, but to representative collier's point, we'll end on this, you don't have to look any further than her own governor. he said in march there is no proof there was fraud. and now he's backing a remedy for something he didn't see as a wrong? nicole collier, we're monitoring your situation, representative, good luck. charlie dent, appreciate you as always. i'm telling you, it's a game. okay?
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it's a game. it's about talking ugly talk to motivate ugly actions. you say it's a big lie that the election is gone, and then people want you to do something about what you just lied to them about. restricting rights is the response to the call for revolt. like what? like saying it was stolen. like advocating for a military coup to overturn a democratic election. who would do that? trump's former national security adviser michael flynn. he says, no, no, no, you got me wrong. i have the tape. you hear it and you'll also see where we are headed. next. at aspen dental, today is the day to take back your smile. why wait? we're here nights, weekends and right now, to give you exceptional care and 20% off your treatment plan. new patients, take the first step with a complete exam and x-rays that are free without insurance. because our nationwide network of over 1,500 doctors at 900 locations all have one goal —
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quote, there is no reason for any coup in america. and i do not have -- and i do not and have not at any time called for action of that sort. okay. this is the situation it refers to. he's at this symposium, and he takes a question from the audience. you will hear what the audience member says, and you will hear his response. go ahead. >> i want to know why what happened in myanmar can't happen here. >> no reason. i mean, it should happen here. no reason. that's right. >> now, always just playing to the crowd. that's how it is. he wanted people to cheer. wasn't the first time. right after the 2020 election he met with trump about imposing martial law and said this -- >> he could order the -- within
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the swing states, if he wanted to, he could take military capabilities and place them in those sates and basically rerun an election in each of those states. >> that's not even true. but again, this is a game. and it's about talking this ugly obnoxious talk of insurrection and opening people's minds to the possibility that follow. so, what does this mean? andrew mccabe led the fbi's investigation into flynn in 2017. welcome back to "primetime". i hope you had a meaningful weekend for you and the family. what do you make of this? >> thanks, chris. chris, i mean, maybe the better question would be, why are we surprised? mike flynn has a history of saying things that are provably false, things that contradict his own statements that have been recorded 2017, mike flynn lied to two fbi agents about his conversations with the russians only an hour after telling me on
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the phone that he thought that we had his conversations recorded. so i can't tell you why mike flynn lies about these things, but i can tell you that he frequently says things that are unhinged from reality and that his lies about this sort of stuff are persistent, so i think it's -- >> some context for folks about why you would be concerned about this. here is an example of where this can lead. here it is. >> biden is just -- he's like a puppet president. the military is in charge. it's going to be like myanmar, what's happening in myanmar. the military is doing their own investigation, and at the right time they're going to be restoring trump. as president. >> in myanmar, the military took over. >> would you like to see that here? >> i would. >> really?
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>> you know why? because the election was stolen from us. >> go ahead. >> so -- yeah, chris, when you're investigated to determine whether or not you can qualify for a top secret security clearance, one of the questions they ask you and all of our friends and neighbors and colleagues is whether or not you have ever advocated for the overthrow of the united states government. when i first heard that question many years ago i thought it seemed kind of absurd. like, who would do that? well, i guess now we know who would do that. mike flynn is not only saying these things. he's saying them to group of people who embrace unhinged conspiracy theories and who we saw on january 6th took that very deeply held belief in the conspiracy theories and used it to attack the capitol to try to prohibit the certification of our presidential election. so he should know, he does know that this is dangerous, that he's stoking a fire that could be incredibly destructive to our country, and he does it any way.
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>> my understanding is this the conflation of the mainstream political dialogue and the conspiracy -- if you want to use qanon, mine. that the craziness of qanon is now in the rear-view mirror be the idea of an election being stolen, what can be done, and how people can get power back is what their main recruiting tool is. then you get into how to combat it. i keep hearing people form late theories about whether or not flynn could be prosecutored under the military code of justice. he's now retired. won't this be a civilian matter? >> seems like it would be. i'm not an expert on the uniform code of military justice. it seems like to embark on an endeavor like that -- which could be a problem. >> sedition would be the law, and it's not easy. it's a planning crime. >> it's not easy, and it might also be used by that same grouch people for a rallying cry at, look at how they're persecuting mike flynn for trying to defend
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the former president. i'm not sure it accomplishes much and may make things worse. >> let's end on this -- the idea that andy and i are praying with people on the fringe we're not being fair -- look at the poll. republicans. this is an ipsos reuters poll. do you think the 2020 election was legitimate and accurate? 25%. look how many republicans. not qanon kooks. not fringe people. 56%. that's why he's saying what he said. be well. talk to you soon. this is a big story in tennis, and it's not about tennis. it's about your society and how we see people and how we help or hurt them. the world's number two in women's tennis pulled herself out of the french open. why? she was fine for not talking to the press, but it's about more than that.
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naomi osaka, is shining a bright light on mental health in her withdrawal. so, is she in good faith doing this? does it rise to the level that has been made? and will anything change as a result? i have a legend coming on this show not just in tennis, but someone i know and i trust who understands the issues and knows osaka. chris evert. there is no one better. next.
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now the move is sparking questions about tournaments, press availability, but also athletes' mental health and whether we give a damn about that. let's get some perspective from tennis legend chris evert, who to me is about a lot more than tennis. i know chris. we spend time talking about where our world is headed and this issue puts us eight in the crosshairsle first of all, legend and champion, thanks for doing this. >> glad to be here. >> what's your take about whether or not osaka knew what this move was going to mean when she started down the road of, you put too many restrictions on us. i don't want to do it anymore. >> i don't think she had any idea that it would cause this much fuss in not only the tennis
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world, the sporting world per se and i think she just thought, okay, i'm not playing well on the clay. i have been asked a lot of negative questions. it doesn't make me feel good, and i'm not going to go to the press conferences at the french open. i'm going totally focus on my practice and i'll pay the fines, which is $15,000 every time they misses a press conference, those are the rules. i think she thought, i'll make the announcement and it will be over in a day. little did we know it would be overwhelming and it's the talk of the press today. >> she's a young champion, already won grand slams. not known as a clay killer. and there had been talk she may not do well here. there was talk from her own team that she may not do well here. what is the relevance of that to this situation for you?
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>> well, i think it's relevant to her. let's go back. i think the role of press conferences after a tennis match is crucial. i think it's always been the responsibility of the player just to go in there for 20, 30 minutes, talk about the match, dissect the match, tell them how you feel, and that's part of the deal of being a tennis professional. nobody's ever done what naomi has done. yes, players skip press conferences if they had a devastating loss for whatever reason. okay, they pay the fine. but i think the reason why this has blown up is no one's ever done this before a whole tournament. i think naomi i love the girl. i adore her. and i think she is very shy, very self-conscious. you know, she's very vulnerable and she's very sensitive, and she -- when she plays her best,
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she has to feel good about herself. and he has so draw that positivity. i think the last six weeks on clay, not doing well, not winning, the press are harping on me, because they expect her to win. she's number two in the world. and i think it just got to her. >> you know why it's interesting to me, because as a lover of sport and a huge admirer, terrible tennis player, but i respect great tennis and you in your career, which i followed very carefully i entire life, you had them coming at you from all angles. you were one of the first tran sen dent icons in culture within women's tennis. they were on you when you won and on you when you lost. you know that pressure. you know how that works both ways. but now as life has taught you, there's another category, which is, oh, no, this kid has the pressure, this is an actual mental health issue. this is an anxiety issue.
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do you think the sport has to make a recognition of where it's not just nerves? you know, it's not just about performance, it's about addressing a particular vulnerability of people within their ranks. great tennis player, but also battles from dot dot dot, and maybe there has to be a different rule? >> well, i definitely think i would like to throw everybody in a room, because i'm tired of these emails and the instagrams and letters going back and forth. this is a big issue. naomi and other players and the grand slams have to get into a room and hash this out and find an answer to this. and i think that one thing that could change would be the press. you know, the whole dynamics of the press going in after a match. time it. have it a 15 or 20-minute press conference. have a moderator. field the questions.
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if there's any inappropriate questions, they can take care of that. and also, you know, i think -- look at the credentials of the press. i mean, some of the press is not tennis press. they're tabloid press or bloggers or -- you know, they have nothing to do with tennis. they just want to talk about other things besides tennis, and i think it should be primarily after a match should be about your tennis. and i think that somehow everybody has to talk about a solution to make this a healthy environment for the players to go into and a comfortable environment, because we're all in this together to promote the sport. the other thing that we have to remember is coco gauff, 17 years old. a lot of stars now are teenagers. a lot of the great players are in their early 20s. this isn't football. this isn't golf. this isn't race car driving. we're not talking 35, 40, 45-year-old men or women.
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we're talking youngsters. so i think the press have to take a stand, have to go up another level and have some respect. >> here's another reason i wanted to get a heavyweight like you in here to deal with this because of tennis as a culture. roland garros tweeted out a photo of other athletes doing media hits, tweeting, they understood the assignment. this it was a problem for me and turned the corner on doing the story. the assignment is not to do press. that is what drives money and ratings and significant for the tournament, i get it. but they're there to play and to win. and it was interesting to me about whether or not the organizers understand the needs, especially of the young people. look you set the standard for this. you were so young and you came into it so strong, and it gave a projection -- i guess kids can play at this level against adults and win.
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but do you think we've turned a blind eye to the vulnerabilities that are health related or age related? >> i think so. and when i say that i went to press conferences, i mean, there were times in my life when i lost a final to virginia wade at wimbledon and went into my hotel room and didn't leave for three days and just ate and was in hi robe and was totally depressed. there was a time when i won wimbledon and went back to a hotel room and couldn't get up because i pelt so lonely and isolated. i took four months off during my career because i was burned out. so it needs to be addressed. you're absolutely right. >> chris evert, you are a legend and a friend. i appreciate you taking this on because i believe it's way bigger than tennis. we have turned a blind eye to this for so long. we don't deal with mental health
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we see it as a weakness. >> can i just add one more last word? >> of course. >> fame and fortune at a young age, and thank god the women's tennis association has resources -- mental health resources, media training resources. there's help out there for these kids. but when you come from a very close knit family, very modest upbringing and all of a sudden you're the most famous athlete in the world and you're the highest winner of money and trophies in the world, your life changes and it's quite -- it can be quite devastating also. >> chris evert, thank you very much. talk to you soon. we will be right back.
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all right, now we are going to see the reality. mark your calendar. set a reminder on your phone. two weeks from today is june 15th. that's when we will know where we really are in this pandemic. this was the first big holiday weekend out of the pandemic. back to normal. let's bring in dr. leana wen on what we'll be looking for. good to see you doc. hope you had a meaningful weekend with the family. am i right that this will be the demarcation that when we see the
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hospitalizations and cases two weeks from now, we'll have a fully true picture of where we stand? >> maybe. i think you could be right, because in some ways this was the first big stress test. we have restrictions lifted en masse, people going about their normal lives. we know that in the past after major holidays and an increase in travel that we then had a substantial uptick in the rate of infections so maybe we will see an increase. but i think there are two other things that are more likely. one is we see a plateauing. right now we have a decline in the number of cases. if we get a plateau at a high level, that's worrisome -- >> wait a minute. let's go one at a time, leana. you think much faster than i do. if we see a plateauing, okay, then my counter would be, cases are still going down. the rate may not be getting better and better, but at least they're still going down and everything was open, so that's good enough.
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agree or disagree? >> i don't know. i think is the answer. because we just don't know what's going to happen next. the other scenario, which i think is relevant here is even if you see a continuing decline, but it starts to taper off, what i would be concerned about is there are parts of the country with very low vaccination rates. you have counties where 70% or 80% of people are fully vaccinated. other where 1% or 10% are vaccinated. i would worry about those areas, the unvaccinated people spreading it to one another, especially as the weather gets warmer and people go indoors seeking air-conditioning i think there's the possibility of a surge later on in the summer. >> i was told by one of the big shots the major variable in my concern will be geography, that just as we saw with how the virus spread, people who were
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doing it right lose to people who are doing it wrong, and that you will see within the vaccination rates but also geographical differences of observance that they could create a cascade effect that in some places is good, other places is very bad, and everywhere is going to go wrong because bad beats good in this situation. is that another big bad maybe? >> it's certainly possible. another is going to be the variants. and what's happening in other parts of the world if there are variants that are more transmissible. and evade the protection of the vaccine. i think the other part is we just don't know about this virus. i mean, i think the best thing that we have in our favor is to get as many people vaccinated as possible, but one of the concerns that i have that you and i talked about before is maybe the summer is going to be great, which is something to celebrate for sure, but i also think that further removed the urgency for people to get vax vaccinated.
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people might be thinking it's not that big of a deal. we could be fine for the summer, but then come the fall, where she could another resurgence so all this is to say we're better than before buck not in the clear by a long shot. >> as dr. wen said, it's no longer the look at the nation, the state, you got to go community by community. we'll see. dr. wen, thank you very much. back to our top story, the war over voting rights. we know there was no mass fraud. we know republicans who judged the close elections say that. there is no justification for the extreme actions that retrumplicans are taking. to suppress the vote. addition by subtraction. let's do this -- let's let the facts tell the story. numbers don't lie, and the wizard of oz has the numbers. advil dual action fights pain 2 ways.
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next jim crow. we need to dig into the arguments. the man with the numbers is harry enten, the wizard of odds. let's start with this. we have to cut voting hours because two-thirds of jurisdictions had a hard time recruiting enough poll workers so, this is about safety. >> i mean, let's look at the numbers. i don't think it's about safety. what i think it's about is that they know the folks that have the hardest time getting off to vote is democrats. 22% of democrats say they ever had a problem with voting because they can't get off of work just 14% of republicans. we know it disproportionately affects minorities. we know it disproportionately affects younger voters. if you know anything about politics, younger voters and democrats tend to vote more democratic. >> people feel more confident in the results. you know who it is when they
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come to vote if they have an id. polls show that voters support it. an april cnn poll, 64% say photo id would make elections more fair. i mean, it's true, voters do say that. but who are the folks who oftentimes lack the voter id? it's oftentimes democrats. we see this here. ever a problem with voting, lacking the correct id. 11% democrats versus 3% of republicans. it's oftentimes minorities who have the problems with voter id. it's them who don't necessarily have the drivers licenses. so, again, with all of this, with what we're seeing, yes, republicans say this and voters may support it, but the facts on the ground tell us the people who would be disproportionately affected are the ones who cast votes for democrats. >> 36 states have voter id laws already. some are toughest in the states where they're pushing the hard ebs, claiming not enough confidence in the results. texas, georgia. the last, reducing vote by mail.
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here is the argument. less control, more chance for bad behavior. if you limit the window and limit the places who can gather them, it will be safer. >> there is no proof of this. there is nothing. and i didn't hear these complaints by vote by mail when republicans are winning it. biden won the vote by 31 points versus just a four-point win nationally. what all this is about is a reaction to the last election where republicans lost and they want to try and limit the ways that democrats generally tend to vote, or at least voted in 2020. and to be honest with you, i'm not sure this will necessarily work because i think democrats will try and basically work around it. but they are making it more difficult for democrats to vote, and that is what the numbers just say. these are numbers. these are facts. this isn't my opinion. these are numbers. these are fax. >> and there was an extension of early voting for covid. but republicans traditionally used early voting when it was
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only when trump demonized it. so if you're looking for somebody that shows why you lost, look at the man pushing the big lie. harry enten, wizard of odds, thank you. we'll be right back. it would be cool to ride a horse on the moon. hi guys! check out this side right here. what'd you do? - tell me know you did it. - yeah. get a little closer. that's insane. that's a different car. -that's the same car. - no! yeah, that's before, that's after. oh, that's awesome. make it nu with nu finish.
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appreciate you watching. i hope you had a meaningful weekend with people who matter to you, remembering about the right things about us and who we want to be. that's all for me. time for the big show now, "don lemon tonight" with its star, don lemon. >> i got to hang out with some people i liked over memorial day weekend. i'm not going to say who. >> you made a strong third place finish in the dance contest? >> wait a minute, third? >> oh, yeah. >> what were you, like fifth? >> please. i'm in a category all my own. everybody knows that. >> and you're horrible at ping-pong. >> i have a shirt that says i'm awesome at ping long. >> i had people laughing at that shirt. i walked into chris's house. he's wearing a shirt, what does it say? >> i'm awesome at ping-pong. >> and the sleeves are cut off. chris, why even wear a shirt? why don't you just write it on your chest.
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>> it came with no sleeves. why don't you tell them what you had on? >> roaring '20s, which is kind of what i'm wearing tonight. i went to a roaring '20s party and i posted it because it's time for people to get out and be with friends. everybody's vaccinated. show your card, all that, the whole nine. but it's time for people to be with their loved ones again. as i have been saying, if you're going to believe in the science when they said wear a mask and the vaccine is good, then believe in the science. and so the science tells me if i'm around other vaccinated people or if i'm vaccinated, it doesn't mean 100% i'm not going to get it, but i'm not going to get as sick. that means the vaccine is doing its job. so get out, live your life soil. so i lived my life this weekend, which i hope millions and millions of americans did as well. it was great. besides the weather and hanging out with you, it was great. >> i'll tell you what, there can be no grain of any sky when you get to be around people yo
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