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advisers saying trump is listening to those around him who are the crazies at the bottom. barrel. at the same time, sources telling cnn there's growing concern among law enforcement officials over heightened chatter on right wing social media platforms about overturning the election. they fear it could lead to more violence. we have a special report. meanwhile, president joe biden meeting today with republican senators who are leading negotiations on infrastructure as the talks reach a critical point. more than the infrastructure bill is at stake here. we're talking about the president, excuse me, his entire governing philosophy. i bring in now a former republican congressman and from demand justice. he was press secretary for hillary clinton's 2016 presidential campaign. i still want to call him vice president sometimes. i called him vice president so much for eight years. but now he is the president. so my apologies to the united
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states. good evening, gentlemen. cnn has new reporting that the former president is more obsessed than ever with the 2020 election. according to one adviser, he is listening to the bottom of the bottom of the crazies in the barrel. what does that say to you about his state of mind, but you know it's true. >> clearly he's delusional. no serious person could possibly think that donald trump is going to be reinstated, as em, in august. we're just moving on into the twilight zone here. there is no basis in truth or fact what the former president is saying. and i think most people, i would argue that virtually every member of congress knows that's insane, what he's talking about. it seems like he's just down there talking to his friends at this country club. and i'm not sure who is listening to him other than his most devoted followers. it is this nonsense and i think
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more republican members need to call this out. that's part of why the base is believing this nonsense. they're not hearing an alternative point of view. >> this falls in whine "the new york times" reporting that the former guys telling people that he expects to be reinstated by august. we all know, there is no mechanism for that to actually happen. but how worried are you that people will listen to it, and look, people listen to it, listened to it, and then we had january 6th. that's my concern here. people want to believe the bs, i think it is quite dangerous. >> we're still seeing national republicans are wanting to appeal to trump voters. and the republican party even in the aftermath of donald trump's defeat has not moved back to the party that mr. dent belonged to when he joined congress. you're seeing republican candidates running in open
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primaries in states like ohio where there is an open seat because of ron portman's retirement. they're tripping themselves, trying to be in the trump lane. and i think that's all the more reason we can't expect the current republican leadership will be willing to strike any deals with joe biden. you heard mitch mcconnell say in his home state of kentucky that his goal, his number one goal, he reacted to the news about liz cheney saying his number one goal is blocking joe biden on everything he does. the same thing he said about president obama. i home the biden administration heard that and they don't extend this on the critical infrastructure package for very much longer. >> speaking of that, i just spoke to the officer and i asked about mitch mcconnell getting gop senators to block the january 6th commission as a favor to him. this is his response. >> i, well, i was absolutely
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sickened. here i am, escorting the mother of a dead policeman while she and myself advocate for the formation of a commission to investigate the circumstances which resulted in her son's death. and you have, you know, a leader on capitol hill who is making phone calls, asking for personal favors, and doling out political capital to push for a no vote on that commission. absolutely disgraceful. >> what mcconnell did, was that a slap in the face to these officers? >> i completely disagree with what he did here. to seek a personal favor on a vote like the is just wrong.
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members would ask me for a personal favor but it usually had to do with something in their district. would you vote for this? this will impact the district this way. i understand that. one should never ask a personal favor on a matter of conscience or consequential policy where they have strong views. i think this is a black mark for republican who's failed to adopt this bipartisan commission. i think that would be the best way to find truth rather than what will happen now. it will be very partisan in nature. they'll still have to talk about it. republicans won't be able to avoid talking about january 6th going forward. we can move on but that is not what will happen. >> and i asked the officer what he thinks about restricting voting rights. this is what he told me. >> a little outside my wheel house. but hell, i'm an american so i'll chime in.
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i think it took us a long time to get to a place in the country where we respected the ideal that one man, one vote. the idea that you would want to restrict that, for anyone to cast that vote is the most unamerican thing imaginable. >> this is what it is all about. it doesn't get more american than this, right? >> right. and these two issues are connected. one of the big reasons you're seeing this wave of over 400 voter suppression bills across the country is in support of the big lie. it is in response to donald trump's theory that the election was stolen. that he should have won the election. that voter fraud was committed in a massive way. so the conspiracy theories in the minds of those insurrectionists on january 6th is the very same thinking propelling all these voter
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suppression measures in the states. that's why when liz cheney made her media tour after she was ousted from the republican leadership and she was asked for her position now on these voter suppression bills. and she acted like these were two different issues. they're not. they're fully connected. that's why democrats need to see this through. not just making sure a commission gets done but time on the senate floor taking up this measure for the people act, voted on the last week of june. the john lewis voting rights act. these are critical measures and this delay negotiation around the infrastructure package is creating a choke point where all other business including these voting rights bills are behind it in the cue. the longer these negotiations drag out on infrastructure, the less likely we are to have the needed debate around these voting rights measures. >> let's talk about that. you're calling for the end of the filibuster or making changes to it. progressives want it gone.
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moderates, joe manchin, kirsten sinama. >> it was created to create this to work together. to those who say we must make a choice between the filibuster and x, i say this is a false choice. the reality is that when you have a system that's not working effectively, and i would think that most would agree that the senate is not a particularly well oiled machine, right? the way to fix that is to change your behavior. not to change the rules but to change the behavior. >> the filibuster has been used for a lot of things and maybe she should research the history of the filibuster. but change behavior? how is that possible when republicans are using the if i will buster to block an investigation into an attack on
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our democracy. >> with all due respect to her, she got it completely wrong on the filibuster there. she was standing next to john cornyn when she was delivering that and i think the visual to standing next to one of the top republicans in the senate, this jibberish about bipartisanship is just a matter of posturing right now to seem like a reasonable centrist figure in her home state of arizona. that's all well and good. we've only had one major bill in the senate that has been derailed by the filibuster. it was the vote on the commission. what we need is a ramp-up. like the for the people act, the voting rights act to come up in quick succession to have so a narrative takes sbhap the repeated construction of restoring in this country. and i think chuck schumer knows
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that. that is why he's teeing up the for the people bill this month. they need to come up in rapid succession. so but for the filibuster, they would be passing. the black vote on the commission was the first step. they really need to lay a few more bricks to be able to lay the case with the public and to build their own resolve. i think when those actual measures come up, this will be an indefensible position for them to be taking. >> thank you very much. i appreciate it. so tonight sources are telling cnn there's growing concern among law enforcement officials over heightened chatter on right wing social media platforms about overturning the result of the 2020 election. the question that i asked him. was he concerned about violence? or something similar to what happened january 6.
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they fear could it lead to more violence. >> i'm saying before 2022, something has to be done. >> former president trump may have been banned from facebook and twitter but he continues to repeat the big lie are giving some of his supporters false hope that the 2020 election could still be overturned. >> stay tuned for arizona. a lot of people are watching arizona. we need two states. >> the former president pointing to a highly criticized republican-led audit in arizona as one way to overturn the election. >> it will be a very interesting time in our country. a very interesting time. you understand what that means. it will be, you know, how do you govern when you lost? how do you govern when you lost? >> on the social media platform, comments like these are sparking excitement among supporters. trump knows what happened. biden administration will be
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removed. we the people will take action. he just told us things are about to get very ugly all over america. these thugs are not going to take this news very well. be prepared. telegram has become popular since coils like facebook began to crack down on misinformation. >> telegram is both an encrypted chat app and something of a social network. it's been around for years. more recently, maga, qanon and others have gravitated toward this as a platform moving toward this as they move away from facebook and other major platforms like twitter. >> and there is very little rules telegram, right? >> telegram is built around trying to resist monitoring it and censorship. which means many groups gravitate toward it for those very reasons. >> there are groups on telegram with tens of thousands of members dedicated to the quoounl
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conspiracy theory and it is a source of concern among law enforcement to fear in the wake of january 6th, it could incite further violence. three congressional sources tell cnn. >> a lot of the success of the country is going to have to, is really going to have to do with immediacy. by the time we get to 2022, they're going to have everything done. the way they're putting things through congress. mcconnell can't stop anybody. he can't stop anybody. if something doesn't happen fast. the reaction on telegram. he doesn't have to wait until 2024. he's coming back this year. everything will be reversed. it's a great day when we start seeing evidence of the plan coming together. he just told us it won't be long now. and last weekend when trump's former national security adviser michael flynn appeared to suggest there should be a military coup here in the united states, one prominent qanon peddler who has more than 70,000 followers on telegram said
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general flynn says the quiet part out loud. flynn later suggested he had suggested a coup. >> it is very concerning for people who track isis to watch the growth and excitement around telegram in the far and extreme right. because a lot of us ask this question, oh, no, are we back in a situation where this is going to be a really difficult problem to address? >> the former republican congressman who has a dwroun in the military and intelligence says he fears the conversations happening online now could lead to future violence. >> you're saying this same thing that happened over years and years with foreign terrorist organizations. the same time of methodology. all the things you see, radicalized people. this is a war between good and evil. if there is a war between good and evil and there is no middle ground, you're willing to do things others aren't. that is when you see radicalized violence. >> and telegram did not respond to the request for comments. and our colleague speaking to
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law enforcement officials said the concerns, they're not just all about telegram. there is concern across the internet. and one final point, not to be overly alarmist, qanon, those forums, we see them believe in bs all the time. martial law would be declared and trump would be inaugurated. they thought he would come back march 4th. neither of those theories were endorsed by trump. we're seeing trump talking about coming back in the summer. he's talking about the arizona you had a and it that being the first domino to fall. stars are aligning in a way similar to how they began to align in the weeks and months leading to january 6th as we go into the summer and i think that's particularly concerning. >> absolutely. thank you. i appreciate it. mr. phillip mudd, thank you. i'm sure you listened.
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just with enthusiasm with that. >> when you their former president keeping up the big lie, saying things like, before 2022, something needs to be done. do you worry there could be more violence like we saw on january 6th? >> i'm glad i'm not in the business anymore. let's let's go forward to the mid-terms in a place like georgia. let's make yourself an investigator for a second. this is a really conservative estimate. assume .1 of 1% of americans really believe what the president says and think maybe protests and violence might be okay. that's hundreds of thousands of people, don. they're going on telegram. that's a problem for investigators. a lot of that is encrypted. let me give you one more fact. if you go after january 6th, anybody with a brain will read the newspapers if they're sympathetic to the president,
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and say what were the mistakes of the january 6th organizers and how do i avoid that on telegram? you have the potential for a tinder box in 2022 and people who can use encrypted communications and learn from january 6th. i don't want to be in the business anymore. i'm glad i'm on cnn. not really. >> you said that with the head and everything. >> when trump is saying, everything will be reversed, or they see signs of a plan coming together. what is the best way to push back? >> there is only one way to do that. leadership. if you encourage people to believe the election was stolen, go back seven years. if someone told you, there will be a huge conspiracy that says an election was stolen and millions of americans, tens of millions of americans would believe this including a significant percentage of one of the major parties, you would have said, is this like hollywood? what is that? you have to have leadership say
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no. because what we're realizing, even in the age of social media, europe has the power to persuade people to say no. right now they're persuading people to say yes. and people believe it or not are buying it. as a home grown american, i can't believe this. but people buy it. >> i'm with you. i'll see you soon. >> so this story out of florida. deputies in florida under fire from intrude here's broke into a house. those intruders, a 12-year-old boy and a 14-year-old girl. the boy reportedly telling detectives that he knew they were police and he wanted to harm them. >> my deputies showed more restraint than i'm showing now. because i am furious that we could be burying somebody tonight. in.
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i want you to watch this story. the epidemic of gun violence so out of control in america. now children, and i mean children, are ampltd deputies in vol asa county, florida, involved in a shoot-out last night with a 14-year-old girl and a 12-year-old boy. you heard that right. the sheriff says the children fled a group home, broke into a house, came upon a stash of guns, opened fire on the deputies. the girl was shot in the abdomen. the sheriff is angry. >> i don't know what to say. where have we gone wrong that 12-year-olds and 14-year-olds think it is okay to take on law enforcement? what the hell is the department of juvenile justice doing sending these kids to places that can't handle them? we talk about juvenile justice reform? deputies did everything they could tonight to de-escalate and
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they almost lost their lives to a 12-year-old and a 14-year-old. >> i want to bring in now cnn law enforcement analyst charles ramsey who randal the police department in both washington, d.c. and also philadelphia. >> i know, i can, i know him. we both know him from the philadelphia police department. great guy. i don't often, i don't know if i ever saw him the entire time i was in philly working with him. if i ever saw him. he is rightfully furious about the situation that his officers faced. these teenagers broke into a house. found three guns including an ak-47. 200 rounds of ammo. this could have been a much bigger disaster. >> it could have been a huge disaster on so many levels. >> the sheriff is absolutely right. i understand the frustration. not just for this case but crime
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in general is going in the wrong direction across the country. have a difficult time recruiting officers. everything is building up. mike chitwood is a very, very capable leader. i know him from philly. one heck of a police officer and his dad as well. >> chief, the tensions are so high in this video. police having to choose between defending their own lives while being shot at by two teenagers. listen to this. >> they're shooting at me. hold it. don't do this. don't do this. >> look, this overhead video, you can see the shots being fired. what is going on in these officers' minds? and the split seconds this is all happening. >> i mean, the stress is incredible. you can hear the officer. he is under fire. he is very calm on the radio.
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he also knows, listen, this is a situation where i may have to shoot someone and you can hear him say, look, please don't make me do this. don't make me do this. it is a highly stressful situation these officers found themselves. and even though it is a shame the young lady was shot, what else are you going to do? they're between a rock and a hard place. bullets will kill fired from a 14-year-old or a 40-year-old. and so, what do you do? it does get back into this whole issue of accountability. i mean, parents, juvenile justice, all these people and places that are supposed to secure these kids. and they fail. i mean, they committed a burglary. that's how it started. they broke into a house. they find guns. they know it is police there. and they think they're in a video game.
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grand theft auto. and they start firing. just lucky some innocent bystander was not struck. >> chief ramsey, i always appreciate your perspective. thank you. get a vaccine, get a beer, get a don't it, get a lottery ticket, get a gun. yep, a gun. the incentive states are giving to get people vaccinated. i don't know, are they working? next.
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americans to get their vaccinations with 70% by july 4th. state government think offering all kinds of incentives. in west virginia, offering everything from scholarships to guns. >> we're going to give away two full four-year scholarships, two brand new custom outfitted trucks. 25 weekend getaways to our state parks. five lifetime hunting and fishing licenses. five custom hunting rifles and five custom hunting shotguns. and also on father's day, we're going to make one of you a millionaire. >> can i go to west virginia? i mean, i'll take vaccine again. let's discuss now with analyst dr. jonathan rhiner. i'm fully vaccinated but if i
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had the chance to do it, maybe i would. governments around the country trying to bribe constituents to take the vaccine that could save their lives. cash, beer, guns, do you think this will help biden reach the goal of at least one covid shot in adult arms by july 4th? >> i hope so. on the one hand, i'm embarrassed the united states has to resort to this. we take our democracy for granted west take our affluence for granted. now we're taking our brilliant science for granted. i never thought we would have to bribe people to take a vaccine that will literally save their life or the life of their grandmother. so i think government has done a good job with promoting vaccines. if this is what it takes, the raffling off of a gun, will we call it the gunshot lottery or the shotgun lottery?
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it is all good. i think the president will get there. we have to vaccinate about 17 million more people between now and july 4th. we're getting about 600 shots into new arms every day. and the math works out. so right around the 1st of july we'll get to 70% of adults in the united states vaccinate. and that's a big number. because above that number, what we've seen in places like the u.k. and israel, deaths fall to almost zero. >> wow! >> look, apparently the governor knows his constituents, right? you said he's had great success with getting things under control in west virginia. this is the push to get people vaccinated. take a listen. >> if you just step back and think, why in the world would you have to give away something to get somebody vaccinated? well, unfortunately, at this
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time way of the world in some situations. the faster we get them across the finish line, the more lives we save. >> so you know, i hear on the streets, the barber shop, wherever i go, these nonsense i canal reasons why people don't want to get the vaccine. what is the resistance about getting this vaccine? >> well, it's different for different communities. in some communities, people are concerned about the safety of the vaccine. i've heard people wonder, even though these vaccines are absolutely free, i've heard people wonder about the cost. in other communities, people think the whole pandemic has been a hoax or they're young and strong and the virus can't hurt them. so we need to basically bring different messages, all true, to different communities. reach out to them in whatever means we can. look, 15% of the united states is under the age of 12. so that means we have 85% of the
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country left to vaccinate and to get to what we're calling community immunity, we need between 70 and 75% of the population vaccinated. if we want the country vaccinated and immune relatively immune by fall, we need to get to everyone. i'm with governor justice on this. >> i have a quick question. 15 to 20 seconds, if you will. i have to ask you, we've got a pandemic. also an epidemic of gun violence from a public health perspective, is it a good idea to be giving guns away for vaccines? >> no. i hear what you're saying and i wouldn't be happy if one of the inducements would be a truckload of cigarettes. that would seem to be counter intuitive. i do want to get shots into arms. >> if it is a responsible gun owner hopefully that receives those guns. thank you very much. i appreciate it. not just marjorie taylor
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greene. conspiracies are popping up all over the country and some of them are doing well in their races. hey, mom. i'll never say this but... - thanks for telling me everyone 12 and older is eligible for the covid-19 vaccine. - thank you for loving me that much. - thanks. ♪welcome back to that same old place♪
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winning local state and national races around the country. but there's encouraging news. some americans are pushing back. >> i'll keep speaking on cue. i'll keep speaking on the truth. >> from the world champion world fighter -- >> that's what i'm talking about. >> to a school board member with a curious take on climate science. >> this adherence that you have to believe scientists is more of like a religious cult. >> to a state representative pushing a deep state conspiracy. >> there are a lot of people involved in a pedophile network and the distribution of children. >> qanon conspiracy embracing candidates are now making head way in local state and national races across america. >> are there more candidates or fewer candidates that have latched on to the qanon conspiracy theories? >> there's a higher rate of candidates embracing qanon and
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its tenets now than there was last cycle. at least at this point. >> amber the liberal watch dog group media matters tracks the clout. he says their research shows the january 6th insurrection didn't kill the q conspiracy. it has emboldened it. so far the group says for the 2022 races, 19 congressional candidates, 18 of whom are republicans, have shown support for qanon conspiracies. >> we're at the beginning of this. not the end. a large reason why it has such political power is not just because qanon adherents, they donate. they give money. >> thor core ten set president trump is the chosen one to save america from a shadowy group of politicians, media members and hollywood stars who run a worldwide child sex trafficking ring so they can drink the children's blood for energy.
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>> so the real threat of all of this isn't so much that it is some wacky ideas. it is that it is a call to arms. >> case in point, listen to arizona state representative mark finchum. >> there are a lot of people involved in a pedophile network and the distribution of children. and unfortunately, there is a whole lot of elected officials involved in that. >> but i shouldn't be shocked at that, but that is shocking. >> the conservative news anchor may not have challenged him but some of his constituents have. they were also shocked by this tweet he soenlt january 6th while he was outside the capitol showing support for the big lie, the claim the 2020 election was stolen from trump will unlike hundreds of others, he said he never entered the building. >> i remember calling my mom, a valley salvatorian immigrant. isn't that why you left?
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she was like, of course. this isn't supposed to happen in the united states of america. >> and a young republican joining. >> we have a tunnel of people who need help. need laws passed and he is out there focusing on conspiracy theories which is honestly disgusting. >> but finchem is undeterred. he is running to be the top state official, secretary of state. >> the term conspiracy theory is used to ridicule some good ideas. >> others dead set against it. some somebody like mark finchem being in charge of elections, holding a seat like secretary of state is one of the most dangerous things that could happen to democracy. >> we wanted to give him a chance on to explain his beliefs but our calls and emails weren't returned. >> could you tell me a little about whether or not you believe in conspiracy theories? sir? >> day one, he dodged us. day two, we waited for 12 hours. >> he's one of the last cars in
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the parking lot. now the security for the legislate surnow driving finchem's car away. >> 2,000 miles away in the small michigan town of grand blanc, a first time school board member is under fire for social media posts saying things like quoounl confirmed by trump. and they can delete our social media. but they'll never break our spirit or stop what is coming. god wins. posted over a flaming q with we the people are pissed off emblazoned over it. >> i think she was elected because she refused to genuinely expose what she believes in. >> as a high school student and first time voter, he did his homework and discovered her now deleted post. >> if we cannot have an education system who care about the truth, what is education? it is hard to follow what she really does believe. it is hard to separate truth
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from fiction. >> and he others want her to resign. some of his high school friends and their parents support her 100%. >> she is a conservative. so they're attacking her. >> you think this is purely along political lines. not having anything to do with qanon. >> exactly. >> i think qanon, parts of it are real. some of it is ridiculous obviously but i think it is a real thing we should be concerned about. >> they're saying pedophilia. do you believe that? >> yes, i do. i think there's some pedophilia going on. >> we wanted to ask her what she believed. she did not respond to our request for an interview but she was at the school board meeting. >> do you believe in the qanon theories you've posted? >> no. i posted where we go. basically, they're complaining about a false narrative and i think it is the false narrative to try to cancel trump
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supporters. >> you have a big q that was burning on fire that says we are pissed. was that something you believed in when you posted it? >> i don't remember that tweet. >> there are several others. there are also things about science that you don't believe in human cause of climate change. is that also true? >> i believe that science is a method and it is not a belief system. and that this adherence that you have to believe scientists is more of like a religious cult. >> you don't mask the help. you mask the sick. >> in huntington beach, california, it is the science around covid that is the conspiracy by the mayor elect pro temperature. >> are you thinking covid-19 was a little conspiracy theory? >> 100%. >> that's former ufc champion tito ortiz. he is like many of the candidates we followed, getting
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widespread support for being a political disruptor. >> you seem to be somebody i thought might mix things up for us and change things around. i knew that he was a conservative voice and i prefer that, personally. >> he is mixing things up by spending lots of time spewing and posting conspiracy theories. >> say it right, pandemic. >> and less time dealing in policy and council business. his critics, both democrats and republicans say. >> the first day he was sworn in, he referred to the pandemic as a plan-demic. >> plan-demic. the conspiracy theory that the government planned the current pandemic. he also refused to wear a mask at council meetings at the height of the deadly pandemic in california. nor did he want his children to wear masks to school. >> the boys will not be wearing their masks today. let's see what they say. >> he started pushing conspiracies. i mean, really outlandish
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accusations. that you can, kids were being abused by our public school system just because we were >> reporter: after just five months on the city council, tito ortiz resigned, effective immediately. sara sidner, cnn, huntington beach, california. >> sara sidner, thank you very much. brood x is here. swarms of cicadas and the fda is feeling the need to warn people about eating them. why is that? stay with us.
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billions of cicadas have been swarming around for weeks, and if you are in the d.c. area, they're likely everywhere you turn. i thought the ugly critters were just a pain. but apparently, some think of them as a gourmet treat. there are recipes popping up for cicada cookies. others are putting them in tacos or wrapping them in rice-like sushi. but the fda has a warning. they tweeted it today. yep. we have to say it. don't eat cicadas, if you are allergic to seafood, as these insects share a family relationship to shrimp and lobster. there you have it.
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and good evening. we begin tonight with a striking claim about one of the most controversial provisions in the bill texas state republicans are pushing to restrict voting. it would have limited polling hours on sundays, to after 1:00 p.m. drastically, affecting the souls to the powells voter turnout efforts in black churches around the state. right now, the bill is in limbo after state house democrats ran the clock out on it for their current legislative session. now, some of the backers are trying to say that the whole sunday votin
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