tv Don Lemon Tonight CNN June 3, 2021 11:00pm-12:00am PDT
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this. you're the one who's on you-know-what time. >> yeah, you can say whatever you want. listen. you know, i was listening to joe manchin, tonight. >> oh, yeah. >> and he is not wrong, about the ideal. but the question is does what he believes the senate is about, still, exist, in reality? i mean, he certainly -- i don't know what he is hearing from republican senators. he's got murkowski, who signed on to the joe lewis -- the john lewis act. but, you're not getting people to work together like it used to. he has to know that. but he's not wrong to want it. >> okay, so, i'm going to half disagree with you. i think you're right about whether that senate, or even the congress, whether that exists, anymore. it does not. i think he's wrong. i think bipartisanship, for the sake of bipartisanship, is empty. when you look at -- >> explain that. >> because -- because he wants -- he wants bipartisanship, just because.
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you have to look at what is on the line, which is the way i'm going to start my show, by the way. so i'm just going to say it, now. this is some serious sh -- stuff. this is serious. voting rights. you don't get any more serious than that. so, you got voting rights. and you got bipartisanship. voting rights. bipartisanship has always been an issue. everyone has always said we can be more bisarpartisan. we can do this. we can do that. the filibuster was not started contrary -- again, i am giving away my open -- contrary to what kyrsten sinema says, it was not created -- it was created by mistake. that is a complete misrepresentation and a complete misunderstanding of the history of the filibuster in -- in the senate. and the filibuster has been used to vote down civil-rights legislation. anti-lynching legislation and so on. more than once, more than twice, more than three times.
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that is the history of the filibuster. so, they are both wrong, about the filibuster. and wrong, for saying well, this is the way. yeah, it's the way it should be but it's not the way it is. it should be, that i could eat like i did tonight, 3,000 calories, and not gain weight. but that's not the reality. >> my -- my take on it is this. your -- your high ground is on what is at stake and what the current state of play is. i think that the history of the filibuster is, easily, recognizable for people. it had different periods, before and after it was used to motivate racist resolve. and you are absolutely right about that, period. when you hold up your right hand and say voting rights. it's not just voting rights. >> uh-huh. >> it's voting rights, and the rights of republican states to overturn elections, that they don't like. >> yes. yes. >> so it's not just curtailing the ability of, you know, disproportionately-minority people to go and vote. but if you, still, manage to go out and do it, anyway, they have
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laws in place to be able to overturn. that, to me, is more dangerous than the curtailment of how long and how often. both are a problem, but the ability to overturn. so, that, versus empty bipartisanship. of course, it's going to lose. >> don't hide behind the filibuster, because you need to appease voters. just do what is right. and everyone knows what is right. they know what is right. but again, they got to have something to sell to the folks back home. the folks back home who believe there's election fraud, and that there's this and the democrats are the worst. >> do you think those people are going to vote for manchin, anyway? >> sure. if he -- if he stands up against the mean democrats, of course. >> but i don't think -- he doesn't present himself like that. i mean, january 6th. he jumped all over mcconnell and asking for a personal favor. >> people aren't who they present themselves to be, in public. i got to run. >> boy, you just can't be anything but right. >> no, i can't -- it's not that i can't be anything but right. i can't be -- i can't do
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anything, but see the reality. to see people, for who they are, especially in this moment. especially, for someone like me. voting rights, to me, that's huge, man. you are talking about -- >> and the right to cancel an election, you don't like the result of. that is a scary power. >> because someone who sat around, and listened to my grand mother. my grandmother and my mother tell me tales of how my mother would take my grandmother to the polls. or my grandmother would go to the polls and they would make her, the bubbles in the jar. these are all things that happened. poll taxes. so if you are going to tell me that's on the line and say, we can't change the rules because we have to be bipartisan. what does that mean? that means nothing to people, like me. so, if you want that to be your legacy, man, go for it. go for it. >> the only thing they are worried about is what happens next. but i have to tell you, i agree with you about the exigencies of the moment. but it will have consequences. d lemon, make your witness, i
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love you. >> love you, too. i will see you soon. this is "don lemon tonight." so, let's get into this. my question, tonight, is it's a simple one. but it is crucial. if america is going to move forward. how do we negotiate, with this republican party? how do we? can you? everything that the -- the current, legitimately-elected president of the united states, joe biden. everything he is trying to get done, depends on the answer to that question. every single thing. voting rights. serious stuff. infrastructure. that's serious, as well. nothing is going to happen, if senate republicans continue to obstruct, like they did when they wouldn't even allow debate on the commission to investigate the january-6th insurrection at capitol hill. the -- the -- that madness, that happened on january 6th. can't be investigated. benghazi, benghazi, benghazi! january 6th? no! and more and more democrats are facing the hard truth, that the only way that they are going to get anything done with a minority party that refuses to
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take bipartisanship seriously, in a senate that is, essentially, a bastion of minority rule, the only way there might be to get anything done will be to blow up the filibuster. let's just be honest. let's just be honest, and tell the truth about what is happening in this country. don't hide behind the fill bubu filibuster. say what you got to say, brothers and sister. then say, i don't want to do it. i don't want to do this because i think that black and brown people's votes should be restricted in the future to come in america. just say it. don't hide behind the filibuster. two democrats, senator joe manchin, kyrsten sinema, are standing in the way of that. cnn's manu raju, asking manchin tonight, if he would agree to a carveout on voting rights. spoiler alert. he won't. >> you're also just in the center of so many issues in washington. one of -- in -- in -- in -- one
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of the issues is you are working on trying to get a voting rights bill passed with lisa murkowski. just let me finish the question. there is no sign there's actually going to be 60 votes to get that done. some of your democratic colleagues say joe manchin should agree for an exemption. allow voting rights to pass on a simple majority. change the senate's filibuster rules to do that. would you be open to that? >> i ask everybody how well did the 2013 nuclear option work, when in 2017, they came back and took it off the supreme court? that's all. what goes around, comes around. >> what goes around, comes around. voting rights, not that big a deal. it will all work out. come on, brother. and then, there's sinema, who would have you believe the filibuster encourages bipartisanship, despite all the evidence of the contrary. >> the idea of the filibuster was created by those who came before us, in united states senate, to create calmity. and while there are some, who don't believe that
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bipartisanship is possible. i think that i'm a daily example that bipartisanship is possible. >> none of that is true. it would be great if republicans and democrats could agree on the issues that are most important to this country. president biden ran on bipartisanship, but he's got a major obstacle to that. his name is mitch mcconnell. and he has made it his mission to block and obstruct any efforts by democratic presidents. and he wields the republicans' favorite weapon, and that is the filibuster. okay? so let's go through the history of the filibuster, just so you know. audience, american people, manchin, sinema. the filibuster has a long, disgraceful history of being abused. to block civil-rights and voting-rights bills. michael higginbotham told you about that, just a few months ago, on this very show. >> the history of it, in our country, the senate filibuster, has been that it has been used to racially oppress.
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1846, it prevented anti-slavery provision. 1922, it prevented anti-lynching legislation. 1957, as dr. west mentioned, it prevented segre -- desegregation legislation of schools. so it's part of our history but it needs to be eliminated now, because if we don't eliminate it, we are going to have the same kind of white-supremacist legislators in the minority preventing a majority of legislation from getting passed. legislation, that 60% of the people want. >> that is the truth about the filibuster. more truth. in the 1840s, before it was even called a fill bibuster senator n c. calhoun of south carolina used it to preserve slavery. in 1922, an anti-lynching bill was defeated by a filibuster, led by southern democrats. in 1957, senator strom thurmond took to the floor to filibuster
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the civil-rights act. speaking for a record-24 hours and 18 minutes. in 1964, the longest filibuster in senate history. 60 days. almost derailed -- almost derailed a landmark civil rights act. 1983, senator jesse helms finally dropped his filibuster attempting to block the bill declaring martin luther king jr. day a federal holiday. that, ladies and gentlemen, is the filibuster. is it the side of history that you want to be on? is it, really, worth more than voting rights for millions of americans? let's remember, what the former president, barack obama, said about that at the funeral of john lewis. when he called the filibuster a jim-crow relic. >> and if this takes eliminating the filibuster, another jim-crow relic, in order to secure the
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god-given rights of every american, then that's what we should do. >> i want you to remember what valerie jarrett told me, just a few months ago, when she said getting rid of the filibuster is a small price to pay, to protect voting rights. >> i watched, for eight years, how mitch mcconnell and the senate republicans tried to block every single measure we put forward. that would have been helpful to the american people. and so, when you have that kind of a recalcitrant, obstinate senate, with senate republicans, you put us in a position where there is no other choice. so, i think, clear eyed, members of the senate ought to think about what is best for our country? what strengthens our democracy? and then, push that forward. if that means we have to get rid of the filibuster to do so, that's a small price to pay to enfranchise millions and millions of americans, who will be disenfranchised if these bills around the country pass and become law. >> i think, everyone, just about
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everyone, believes in bipartisanship, right? that's, like, a -- that's the ideal. i believe in bipartisanship but not lip service. not lip service to it when it's dead and buried in washington under mitch mcconnell, who's been the king of obstruction. the -- the fundamental right to vote. voting righting are at stake, here. democracy is at stake. people fought and died, and still do fight and die for this country, to preserve those values. so, it is time for choosing, right now. what will democrats choose? and while president joe biden has issues with his own party, the former guy, still, has his party in a death grip. a party, too afraid to cross a disgraced-former president, who is more obsessed than ever with his big lie of nonexistent-election fraud. this is -- look.
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i'm going to say this, but i -- and then, i will talk more about it. a well-placed source telling cnn trump's been listening to right-wingers like the my pillow guy, asking advisers if he could somehow get back in the white house this year. going on, he continues to hope that he could return to power saying quote it's very dangerous. and if you need more evidence of the trump-death grip on the gop, there's mike pence tonight. here it is. >> you know, president trump and i have spoken, many times, since we left office. and i don't know if we'll ever see eye to eye on that day. but i will always be proud of what we accomplished for the american people over the last-four years. [ applause ] >> come on. sorry. not really.
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people yell at me on the streets. about things. but i don't talk about it on the news. so, trump sitting in mar-a-lago, droning on about whether he's going to -- who cares? who cares? who cares? and mike pence, who cares? they don't see eye to eye on what happened on january 6th. mike pence, surely, could have said a lot about that, while he was still the vice president of the united states, couldn't he? after he was chased out of the capitol. we'll never see eye to eye. january 6th. that was the day trump-supporting rioters put up a gallows outside the capitol and chanted, hang mike pence. >> hang mike pence! hang mike pence! >> mike pence could have died that day. and he's, still, talking. whatever.
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the then-president, who incited the insurrection, who slammed his own vice president for failing to stop the certification of the vote, did nothing to help him. but he's, still, proud of what they accomplished. mike pence. still, proud of what they accomplished. okay. you believe that? this is a party, gop -- well, it should be p.o.t., party of trump, that refused to take a stand to investigate what happened on january 6th. when those blood-thirsty rioters stormed the capitol, beating police officers within inch of their lives. a man i have gotten to know, who's become a real friend, officer mike fanone. he told me how he felt about republicans who, even after he and the mother of fallen officer brian sicknick, went to the capitol to talk to them, face to face, they still blocked the commission after mitch mcconnell asked them to do it, as a personal favor to him.
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he called them disgraceful. mike fanone is a truth-teller. and tonight, i'm going to talk to another truth teller. another american hero. capitol police sergeant. he says rioters beat him with the american flag. the flag, he swore to defend here and in the army reserve in iraq. he will be here in just one minute. so you want to stay tuned. but first, this is more of what he says about that terrible day. >> what was the worst thing they called you? >> traitor. >> why was that the worst thing? >> um, because i served my country. i want to protect our homeland from foreign threats. but yet, here i am, battling them in our own capitol. >> reporter: united states capitol police sergeant
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immigrated from the dominican republic in 1991. deployed to iraq in 2003. and then, joined capitol police in 2008. he is speaking publicly, for the first time, about january 6th, when he fought rioters trying to stop the certification of joe biden's presidency. >> i got hurt. i got hurt. i will do it again, if i have to. it's my job. >> reporter: sergeant gannell led members of the department's civil disturbance unit. for hours, they battled insurrectionists attacking the capitol. this video shows his fight on the west front. >> they kept saying, trump send me. we won't listen to you. we are here to take over the capitol. we are here to hang mike pence. they thought we were there for
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them. and we weren't. so, they turned against us. it's very scary. because i -- i thought i was going to lose my life right there. >> reporter: some of the most horrific video shows sergeant gonell steps from daniel hodges caught in a doorway. >> i could hear my fellow officer screaming. the agony in some of them. all i could think was we can't let these people in. there's going to be a slaughter inside. >> sergeant gonell came forward, on his own. not to speak for the department. he said he couldn't stay silent, anymore, about what happened on january 6th. and here he is, live, this evening. i'm going to talk to him, after the break.
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and we want to hear your story. so, as much of it, as you can tell us, that you're comfortable sharing, we would love to hear it. so again, thank you for -- for appearing. okay? >> thank you for having me. >> it takes a lot of courage to come forward and talk about what happened on january 6th. how are you doing? >> some days, better than others. last week was very rough, emotional -- emotionally. and -- but getting the help that i need. i have a lot of support, peer support, whatnot. and my family, also, they have been very understanding of my situation. and everything that had happened to me, and to the many officers that responded to -- to the insurrection and the people who -- we had people that --
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officers that left in the morning, that day. and had -- and decided, on their own, to come back to fight off these terrorists and individual that were there to kill people. that were not there on a tour, as a lot of people are -- anyone -- or anyone that keeps saying that it was a regular tour. there -- there -- this was not a concert that you come and do whatever. break, threats, people, or whatnot, and then, go home as if nothing happened. people got hurt. people got injured. i got hurt. i got injure. threats were made -- made against the officers, against their family, against the members, against the president, against the -- i'm sorry -- against the vice president. and against the speaker. and for them to whitewash this,
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like -- like, i'm -- i'm making it up. like, somebody told me that, oh, this is why black lives matters or antifa. there was no antifa there. all the people, the sea of people that were there, they were saying president trump send me here. he's our president. he send us here, and we won't listen to anything that you say. and -- >> did you -- so, earlier -- i didn't mean to interrupt. a couple things. so you -- are you always -- were you always this serious, before the insurrection? >> what do you mean? like, in my personality? >> it looks like -- like, there is a weight that -- >> um, i'm -- most of the time, i am -- my character. i -- i don't mean to come out that way, but i -- i am fun.
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with certain people. not with everybody. but i do take my job seriously. >> no, it's okay. it's not -- listen, it's not a judgment. it's just an observation. and considering what you've gone through, i would certainly understand that there is a serious aspect to your existence. to -- to your experience. >> it just -- i don't like when people try to take advantage of other people. we are not pawn. we have family. we have kids. we have loved ones that are waiting for us to go back home. at the end of the day. and when you -- the moment and the thing that got me to come forward, it was seeing officer sicknick' family right next to officer fanone and dunn, harry, the other day. which, to me, i didn't realize that he's been standing alone for a long time. on this issue.
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and i was focused on my recovery, whatnot. but the moment that got me was when i saw his family, officer sicknick' family. my condolence to his family and whatnot. i'm sorry i was not able to attend his funeral service, whatnot. i was focused on my -- my recovery. but when i saw his family, i saw my family. my wife. my mom. right next to -- for -- for them to, pretty much, pleading them and begging them to do the right thing. to have the courage to do that. i raise my hand three times already to defend the constitution of the -- this country, the united states. and i was not even born here. and for them to not have the courage to not do the right thing, to not put the lives on
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the line like we did that day. we did that. i sweat, i bled. i -- i bleeded my blood here in country and overseas. >> let me tell people about your journey, because you served this country as a soldier in iraq. you swore an oath to protect the -- the country from all enemies, foreign and domestic. and now, you have, you know -- you have republican lawmakers refusing to investigate what happened. is that -- do you feel betrayed? or is it a slap in the face? how do you feel about that? i don't want to put words in your mouth. >> i feel insulted. i feel like they don't have the courage. they demand something from us, that they not willing to do, which is sacrifice their livelihood. to sacrifice, i don't mean -- i mean, anyone who says that this didn't happen. i'm not taking sides on whether republican, democrat, or
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independents, whatnot. i'm saying, whoever is opposite about the investigation wouldn't -- if i go to your house, and bring a whole bunch of people. or tell a whole bunch of people, hey, let's go to lemon's house. and -- and break everything and -- and threat your wife, threaten your kids, threaten whatever. whoever -- whoever is there. and then, leave everything damaged, whatnot. wouldn't you want to know who did this and who coordinated this? >> and why? >> because that's exactly the same thing that happened in our capitol. i work there. i take this job very seriously. and even though there are things i don't agree, in terms of policies or political stance, whatnot. i'm not interested in that. when we respond to a call, we don't ask the person, who's needed help, hey, are you republican? democrat? or independent? we just respond.
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and -- and do our job, to the best that we can with the best -- with the tools we have. so, when people denied that this happened, it's insult -- insulting. it's a betrayal. you got the people calling me from overseas. my friends and family. responded to asking me whether i was okay. or what was going to -- what was happening in the capitol? they were more concerned, i think, than the president, himself, that day. >> let me -- let me ask because -- i hate to cut you off because i am riveted listening to you. and i could sit here, seriously, and listen to you for the two hours. i am going to go a little long, producers, if you can find time in the show. please, please, please. if not, let me know. when i had officer dunn on, when
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i had officer fanone on, i asked before if they were okay with the video. i would love to play some of the video. when you see that video, does it trigger you in a way? are you okay with it? >> i'll be okay. >> okay. >> it's very emotional, because i seen these videos so many times. and for a lot of people, people who are in a position to find out what happened. they only lived it, that day. they only lived it for three, four, maybe five, six, hours, whatnot. i -- i have lived it every single day when the fbi or the justice department's calling me to find out. hey, do you recognize this officer? hey. do you -- is this you? is this a person who assaulted you? it's very, very emotional, and there are things that i had not seen, myself, or -- or don't remember.
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me. those things happening to me. but they are caught on camera. and, hey, sergeant, is this you? it looks like you. it is you. >> every -- every day, since january 6th, you have to either talk to law enforcement or relive this. >> emotional time, yes. >> so the reason i ask is i want people to know about your injuries. your hand was sliced open. your knuckles were bleeding, as you held the doors. your foot needed surgery. >> my shoulder, as well, too. >> your shoulder, as well. and some of the things that are up now. but as i heard from the other officers, the wounds go beyond physical. now, you have said that you -- you -- you felt guilty, in a way. that you weren't able to be there or speak out for officer sicknick and the -- the other officers. you feel that they were standing alone, like fanone and dunn. and -- but quite understandably, because you were take -- taking care of yourself and you had to. do you -- are you getting the
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support that you need, sergeant? >> yes. i have a lot of support from my family. many of my friends, they reach out to me once in a while. i have co-workers who have reached out to me consistently. professionally, i have help and they have been helpful, a lot. and like i said, ups and down. watching some of the things and changes. especially, the death of my colleague -- >> brian sicknick. >> evans and sicknick and livengood. some of them, i -- i didn't know well but i knew the names. either work under my command or as an officer, when we were officers, we worked together, sometime, capacity, whatnot.
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>> what do you -- what do you want to say to america? because there are a lot of people in america, who believe we should move on from january 6th. there should not be a commission. you see the -- you -- you see the reports. you see the -- the lawmakers on capitol hill. thinking the same thing. what do you want to say, sergeant? >> what i want them to know is that that could have been my family. and i saw myself the day i had decided to come forward with it. i have many and multiple incident or moments that i could have lost my life or taken other people's life because they continue to believe this lie that, somehow, people that are not living voted. that it was cheated, whatnot. but when you have this
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personality and someone who -- a party lost the house, lost the senate, and lost the presidency. and for them to continue being on this side and taking [ inaudible ] for or sticking up to this individual. who he continue to shield himself under his wealth and lawyers because he had not sacrificed anything. let me correct that. the only thing that he had sacrificed is the country. we are the laughing stock of a lot of countries because when i -- under the context that we were sent overseas, it was to establish democracy, whatnot. i believe that. i know i made a difference, at that time. but when we go to other countries and -- and preach them
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about democracy. but yet, we cannot do -- do it right here. and when you -- if this attack in -- in the capitol is not a matter of national security, then what is? >> hold that thought, sergeant. because i found more time. and i want to continue to speak with you. and i am so glad that you are being candid and that you are being open. so we are going to take break. we're going to come back with sergeant gonell, who is telling us about his experience, what he is living through, and what he thinks about what's going on in the country right now, especially as it relates to january 6th. back, in a moment. fine, no one leaves the table until your finished. fine, we'll sleep here. ♪ it's the easiest because it's the cheesiest. kraft. for the win win.
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okay. so we're back, now, with capitol police officer -- capitol police sergeant. aquilino gonell. sergeant, thank you. i have been wanting to talk to you because i listened to your report, earlier, about -- about the night that you came home after the insurrection. and how you finally told your wife, and your interaction with your son. but let me ask you this. you were 12 years old when you came to the u.s., from the dominican republic. your son is now 9 years old. around that age.
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are you worried that the america your son is growing up, isn't the same country that you came to, as a child? >> it has been difficult. especially, the past four or five years, whatnot. when you have certain people making restriction or making it harder for immigrants to come here or whatnot. but that's a completely political, whatnot, issue. i'm not too familiar but i know it affect me because when i was growing up, my dad was here working as a taxi driver in new york, whatnot. we did have the -- this yearn to reach the american dream. that, when we get to america,
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things will get better for us, financially, and -- and -- and educationally, whatnot. but -- and it did. my parents. they made great sacrifices, whatnot, to make that possible. and that's -- as a result -- as a result of that -- >> look at you, now. you are -- listen. you fought for this country. you are the american-success story. you -- you protect our capitol, every single day. i was smiling, as you were speaking, not because of what you -- in part, because of what you were saying. because the pictures of your beautiful family were up. your son and your -- your wife. with the army hat on, by the way. so, the night -- you -- you said that the night you -- just tell the -- the night that it happened, you texted your wife. you said i am coming home, finally. you didn't even want to hug her because you had pepper spray on you, and you wanted to wash it off. and then, you did that and you went into your son's room, and you hugged him for ten minutes. >> about that.
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i -- it was a long day, from the beginning. i left my house, like, around 4:30, if i remember correctly, whatnot. and when this happened. when things, the commotion, whatnot, started happening. i didn't even get a chance to say, hey, i'll be busy. i don't know what time i'm going to be, whatnot. but she kept sending me messages, voice messages, text messages. and meanwhile, i'm fighting for my life. in -- inside the tunnel, the lower stairs, the -- there were multiple, multiple in -- times that i find myself thinking i'm
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going to kill somebody, today. or they're going to kill me. when they were dragging me towards the crowd. when i couldn't breathe because we were pushing against each other. we're getting trampled. especially, when the people in the front, who has the -- the very few people who have valiantly hold onto the shields. that they were not taken from the -- by the crowd. we were the frontline, that day. >> sergeant, i just -- you're a hero. you are an american hero. and i thank you, so much. >> i do want to, before we go -- i do want to say one more thing. thank you for everyone that -- that did show up that day. metropolitan police.
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they were great because we were getting -- really losing ground, when they did finally show up. and all the other agencies that -- that came to -- to assist that -- that day. for those people who -- who continue to say and propagate this lie, whatnot, that it was somebody else. that it was another group. come talk to me. i want to talk to them. i have video proof that what happened there was not a concert. it was not fourth of july. or i -- i work those events and nobody beat me or anybody else. but i do think those who came to capitol -- to the capitol police building -- i mean, to the capitol and -- and assist us with securing the building. even though, now, we feel
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betray. we feel insulted, because the very -- to the very -- the very minimum that everybody should agree is how to prevent this from happening, again. >> i agree. i agree. >> many of of the officers that had talked to, they had the same concerns. and i can't say names but we -- we do have the same concern, at the end of the day. we want to go home to our family. and we feel like, right now, we are being a pawn. it's insulting. it's disgusting. and we put our lives to give them the chance to run away to -- to safety. i almost lost my life, many, multiple times. at the bottom-lower stairs. at the top. and inside the tunnel. and it was until 3:00 a.m. that
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day, the following day, that i got home and i wasn't even able to hug my wife for -- until i took three baths. and still, was -- my skin was burning. i slept three hours, that morning, before i went back to the capitol. because, out of the sense of duty, duty. i had a sense of something that i needed to do to continue protecting that building. continue to go be there for my officers. whether they liked it or not, i did show up. i continued to work, almost two more weeks, before i sought medical treatment for myself. until i could no more. and for those people who continue to perpetuate this lie,
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your champion's not a champion. stop this lie. people continue to perpetuate this lie and to tell you the truth, words have meanings. when the president tweeted this or that. and they continue to see, well, he don't mean that. well, this is not what he meant to say. that -- take his word for it. or his tweet speak for itself. or he was just joking. okay. how -- how are these people, who are -- that listen to everything single thing that he commands. if he tells them the sky is blue and there's a storm outside, they believe that crap? i mean, when? when is it going to stop? is it going to take your own family to be murder by these
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people? this time, it's against this president. next time, it might be you. it might be somebody else. but it shouldn't have -- it shouldn't take this. i, completely, honestly, felt that this wouldn't happen here. and not even during my time in iraq. i -- i didn't think that this was going to happen here. in the united states capitol -- of united states of america. >> well, sergeant, i hope -- i hope that they listen to you. unfortunately, though, i have to go. but i want to have you back, and i want to continue to talk to you. and -- and i -- i -- i cannot tell you how grateful i am that you came on to speak. >> and like i said, anyone want to speak to me. senator, congressman, whoever it is, that want my account. i have pictures. i have video. whatever you want to do, talk to me. because i'm going to tell you
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who was there. and what i did to help you escape that building when the people were looking. they were not looking for a democrat or republican. they were just there to kill people. and the -- the truth is that people need to talk about cancel culture. when you trying to cancel this event which is -- which should be a matter of national security. this happened and you want to erase it like it never happened like it was a concert. it is not. >> well, sergeant. thank you. >> and thank you. i'm sorry. i'm just venting. >> don't apologize. that's why you're here. i do have to go, though. but that's why you're here. we've gone for, like, 30 minutes because i want people to hear you, and i'm just so happy that you're here. i hope this is cathartic in some way and that this helps not just with you but with the entire situation. so again i thank you. i true american hero, and we'll
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so take this, everyone. while giving a speech at an ohio memorial day ceremony, an army veteran had his microphone cut for talking about history. yep, the mic was cut when 77-year-old former lieutenant colonel bernard kempter started to talk about the role freed slaves had. >> david blight asserting the holiday is rooted in a moving ceremony, was conducted by freed slaves on may 1st, 1865 at the tattered remains of confederate prisoner of war camp. >> so he continues to talk about how black people in this country honored the dead after the civil
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