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new tonight, the former vice president mike pence talking about the deadly january 6th insurrection at the capitol and putting some distance between himself and trump, who incited the riot. also tonight, a source telling cnn that trump's asking advisers if he can get back into the oval office and resume the

presidency. aw. that he's holding out hope that he could be reinstated as president outside of the election process. a source calling the whole thing very dangerous. plus sources saying that the justice department's investigating congressman matt gaetz for potential obstruction of justice. there is a lot to talk about tonight. but i want to bring in now attorney george conway. he has a scathing new opinion piece in "the washington post" calling out republican senators as cowards for blocking the commission to investigate the january 6th attack. george, thank you for joining. i really appreciate you joining us this evening. >> thanks for having me. >> so let's talk about the vice president now speaking out tonight about january 6th. i just want to get your reaction. watch and then we'll talk. >> as i said that day, january 6th was a dark day in the history of the united states capitol. but thanks to the swift action of the capitol police and

federal law enforcement, violence was quelled. the capitol was secured, and that same day we reconvened the congress and did our duty under the constitution and the laws of the united states. you know, president trump and i have spoken many times since we left office, and i don't know if we'll ever see eye to eye on that day. >> so he says that he might never see eye to eye with trump on january 6th. what's your take on this, george? >> well, that's certainly true. they're never going to see eye to eye. pence upheld the constitution, and trump was ready to discard it. and that's just remarkable how pence can just say, oh, we're having -- we won't see eye to eye about that. this is the most fundamental thing you could possibly disagree about if you are a public official of the federal government and particularly the two highest elected officials in

the united states of america. we won't see eye to eye. one is talking about overthrowing the constitution. one was trying to overthrow the constitution by encouraging people to march up to capitol hill so they could stop the counting of the electoral votes. the other man, to his credit, upheld the constitution and did his constitutional duty. it's just -- to say they don't see eye to eye on it like, oh, it's just another disagreement about policy is just a kind of a remarkable, remarkable understatement, if you will, of what happened there. >> yeah. we don't see eye to eye on the mob that you incited to come and who wanted to kill me, yeah. >> exactly. you know, hang mike pence, they were chanting. it's just incredible. it's just incredible to watch. but, you know, pence deserves credit for doing, under enormous pressure, doing the right thing that day. he did the right thing, and he deserves credit for that. >> let's talk about this reporting. this is the national review.

charles cook is backing up maggie haberman, saying that the former president really believes he's going to be reinstated. he adds that conservatives should not brush this off. let me quote here. such temptation should be assiduously avoided. we are not talking here about a fringe figure within the republican tent but about a man who hopes to make support for his outlandish claims a litmus test of sort as he decides whom to endorse for state and federal contests in 2022 and 2024. george, most republicans aren't standing up to trump even though some at least seem legitimately alarmed. what's going on? >> they're just afraid of trump. they're afraid of trump, and they're afraid of his supporters, the large percentage of republicans who have been deceived by trump or willingly deceived frankly, and they are -- they basically fear this man who cost them the presidency, cost them the house

of representatives in 2018, and cost them the senate in 2021. and, you know, he's nuts. he's absolutely crackers. i mean for him to be going around saying that he's going to be reinstated in august, i mean that's -- that's kook kcuckoo f cocoa puffs. yet they are terrified of him. >> a better question is how seriously should we take this because, listen, i walked to the barbershop today in new york city, and there were people who were talking to each other on the street, but i'm not putting them on television. i'm not exploiting them by putting them on television and reporting about it. you said cuckoo for cocoa puffs. how seriously should we be taking the rantings of someone not dealing with reality? >> both not seriously and seriously on two different levels. not seriously in the sense it's not going to happen. there's no mechanism by which it could happen. seriously in the sense that

there are people out there who are actually peddling this. i mean there's a whole conservative ecosystem that's developed of disinformation, you know, that was hyper charged by the former president. and he's getting this from somewhere. and we heard some of it from the crazy lawyer, what's her name. >> sidney powell. >> the lawyer who -- sidney powell, and we heard this bizarre statement over the weekend by michael flynn. you know, this stuff is out there. there are people who actually may believe this. you know, we've seen the polls about, you know, some significant percentage of republicans -- i don't know -- 10% or 20% believing in qanon. this is of the same thing. you know, he's a former president of the united states. he hasn't uttered this publicly, but his people haven't denied that he's been talking about this with people.

and the fact that hasn't been denied tells you that there is something to the fact that he is having these conversations, which is absolutely insane. so on one level, you have to take it with a grain of salt because it's completely nuts. on another level, the fact that enough people might be willing to believe and are willing to believe the big lie of 2020, that the election was stolen and might -- you know, and believe somehow donald trump should be restored to his proper place in the presidency, i mean, you know, we saw the violence on january 6th. there could be violence again. >> let's talk about -- when i said people on the street, i meant people who were talking to themselves on the street. i don't exploit them by putting them on television, but i would like to offer them help, saying people have issues. donald trump has an issue because he actually thinks he's going to be president of the united states. listen, george, let's talk about the main reason we have you here. the senate gop had no excuse to block this january 6th commission, and you write, four years of trump have led the

republican party to becoming a threat to democracy, a declining sect dominated by crack pots, charlatans and cowards. of these, it is the cowards, including the senators who killed last week's legislation, who bear the most blame. so what is the way forward? how do you negotiate with these people who are not acting in good faith and even not in reality as well? >> honestly, i -- i don't know. i mean you would have thought that after the january 6th insurrection, they would finally have been done with donald trump. and it almost seemed like they were. and even after they acquitted him in the second impeachment trial, you had mitch mcconnell immediately going to the floor of the senate and talking about what a terrible thing trump did that day, that he was -- he was derelict in his duties and that he was gleefully watching the violence on television. and you thought maybe they were turning a corner even though they refused to convict trump

on, i think, the meritless theory that you can't convict a former president and bar him from holding future office. but at least there was some basis to believe that maybe they had turned the corner on him, and now they don't want to even talk about it. this didn't -- this vote last week didn't ask them to do anything other than let somebody else look into the facts. and they're so terrified that more facts will come out about what donald trump was doing all day in the oval office while he was watching tv and the violence was up on the hill -- they're so afraid of being tarred by that, and they have a reason to be afraid of being tarred by it because they let this guy stay in office by not removing him the first time, and they let him go the second time. and they're refusing to basically speak out about the big lie now. >> yeah.

the mainstream -- the fringe has basically become the mainstream in the republican party. it was a pleasure to have you on. please come back. >> thank you. >> thank you. so talks on a massive infrastructure package now reaching a critical stage between president biden and senate republicans. let's discuss now with edward isaac devar, a staff writer for "the atlantic." he is the author of "battle for the soul: inside the democrats' campaign to defeat trump." thank you so much for joining. >> thanks for having me, don. i appreciate it. >> president biden is making some serious concessions on his infrastructure plan. he's come down to $1 trillion in new spending, and he is now floating that he would forgo changes to the 2017 tax cuts, at least for now. what's your take on biden's strategy here? >> well, look, what biden is dealing with is that he feels the absolute need to get things done. there's a conversation that i had with him that's in the book that was about a week before trump's inauguration in which he said to me, what democrats fail

to do is we stop talking to people, we stop doing things for people and people's lives. when i talked to him two weeks in his presidency, he comes back and says, we need to make sure that we're having an impact on people's lives because if not, then that's how trumpism creeps in. people feel that they don't have anything going on for them, and they go that way. the trick is that how does biden balance that with this new progressive tilt that he's developed in the moment of the pandemic and do it in a way so that he doesn't just seem like the joe biden who everybody thought he was going into the presidency, the guy just looking to make a deal no matter what with senate republicans. >> do you think president biden is going to have to cut bait if republicans don't come along? was that time three weeks ago, or is it coming soon? >> look, they're making offers here, and i think it's important to look at the larger strategy that biden has come to here, which is this thing that he has

said, that aides of his have said, that bipartisan doesn't necessarily mean getting republican votes in the house and senate. you can see that with the american rescue plan, there were no votes from republicans in the house, no votes in the senate, but it was popular and remains popular with republicans around the country. and that's the constituency in a way that biden is going for, people who want to get things done among the moderate democrats, independent voters, swing voters, and republicans who say, at least this is having an effect on my life. and how they do that with the infrastructure bill, it's not the immediacy of the covid relief, that's what's ahead of them right now. >> we're learning that president biden reached out to prominent democratic economist larry summers to discuss the economy. he's warned about risks of inflation. what do you think of that approach, reaching out to a vocal critic like that? i mean you never saw that happen in the trump administration. >> or in a lot of

administrations to do it quite that way. larry summers is sort of a problem for democrats because at this point, what he keeps talking about is what democrats even in the mainstream don't really want to be talking about anymore. so biden has an approach always, you see the power of him as a retail politician, whether that's actually sitting with people at a diner, obviously not doing much of that anymore, or just calling them, talking to them, trying to bring them into the fold, not yettilling at the not fighting with them. i trace in the book how this worked over the campaign even though his campaign operation wasn't so strong. it worked pretty well for him in the campaign. now he has to see if it works in the presidency. >> don't be offended if i plug your book again. >> no. >> the book is called "the battle for the soul: inside the democrats' campaign to defeat trump." thank you, edward. i appreciate it.

best of luck with the book and we'll see you here again soon. i want to bring in now cnn political commentator amanda carpenter and cnn political analyst ron brownstein. ron, were you just putting your glasses on? >> yeah. >> yeah? >> doing a little research reading before i went on. >> he's doing his research up until -- you're like me, cramming for finals. >> yes. >> welcome, both of you. amanda, i just spoke -- i hope you saw my interview with the hero police sergeant aquilino gonell, defended the capitol on january 6th. he's descalling it insulting an bet betrayal. watch this and we'll talk. >> i have video proof that what happened there was not a concert. it was not fourth of july. i worked those events, and nobody beat me or anybody else. but i do think those who came to

the capitol police building -- i mean to the capitol and assist us with securing the building, even though now we feel betrayed, we feel insulted because to the bare minimum that everybody should agree is how to prevent this from happening again. >> how can republican lawmakers ignore the very people who put their lives on the line to defend our democracy, amanda? >> i don't know how they sleep at night. i really don't. i don't know how they walk into their offices, pass the security lines, and continue about their work knowing that these men and women stepped up to defend them and their colleagues if not them, themselves, are openly denying it. look at that speech from mike

pence tonight. what's he doing in new hampshire? i think he wants to be president himself. even in the way that mike pence, who probably considers himself one of the good guys, right? because he did his duty and certified the election. but the way that he talks in passive voice about how there was a tragedy that day. by the way, that was a tragedy of the trump/pence ticket's own making, and then he sort of takes credit for the fact that law enforcement came and just made it all go away, as if everything ended well. no, it did not. no, it did not. men and women were hurt, and now they have to go on camera and ask people, plead with these senators to acknowledge their pain. and so, i mean, even the good guys, the people who think that they did the right thing, like mike pence, aren't doing the right thing. and that's, like -- you know, he is 100% entitled to his feelings. they are justified. they are right.

and i am just so sorry that he has to relive the pain on camera to get people to acknowledge it. >> you know, ron, our manu raju spoke with senator joe manchin today, and he made it clear that he is not ready for democrats to go it alone. he wants to work with republicans on infrastructure. here it is. >> they're saying, okay, they don't get a deal, it's time for democrats to move on. >> this is the united states senate, the most deliberate body in the world, and it was by design. and these take time. you just can't -- i know everyone's in a hurry right now. if anyone understands the pro es is, it's president joe biden with 36 years of experience or more here. he understands it and gets it well. i hope his staff understands also what we're trying to do. we've got to bring our country together. we can't continue to split and go further apart. we just can't do that, and we've got to work together. that takes a lot of time and energy and patience. >> i mean, ron, what is he

talking about? with all due respect, has he met senator mcconnell, mitch mcconnell? i mean it just -- it wreaks of naivete. go on. >> or disingenuousness. both joe manchin and -- >> say that again, please. >> disingenuousness. both are describing a senate and a history of the filibuster that simply has no connection to actual reality. sinema yesterday said the filibuster was created to encourage compromise. no. the filibuster was used for a century to deny civil rights to black people. and manchin, you know, is basically -- he is in a state that is a republican state at this point. donald trump won it by 40 points. so he wants to go as far as he possibly can to appear that they exhausted every avenue for bipartisanship on every issue before he is willing to vote with democrats.

and really democrats don't know -- i mean i was talking to another senator yesterday, and they just don't know what is the point at which he will cut bait. it's even more pernicious on voting because manchin, as you know, is saying that the only changes that should be made to federal voting laws should come only if both parties agree to do it, only if there is bipartisanship. in practice, what that means is he is giving republicans in washington a veto over whether the federal government is going to restrain what republicans in the states are doing on a party-line basis in state after state after state. they are passing these restrictive voting laws on a party-line basis, and manchin is saying democrats in washington should respond only if republicans agree to do it with them? look, i mean it's not clear that this is -- you know, this is obviously a position that is extremely difficult for the rest of the democratic caucus. but no one knows exactly what is the point at which he will move, if he will move at all. i think on infrastructure, yes. on voting, it's still an open

question. >> why do they keep coddling him? why don't they just call him out and make him feel the weight of the decision that he needs to make? hey, come on. oh, it's -- why don't they just at some point say, look -- >> they should ask him to write a bill. >> you are the guy that's holding up the right -- restricting the right to vote -- or voting rights for people who fought and died for this country. don't you understand what is at stake here, sir? >> don, it may come to that. but the last time there was a 50-50 senate, george w. bush did that to the republican senator from vermont. he blecame an independent and flipped control. there is only so far they can push manchin. >> won't they know what manchin really is, then? if manchin says i'm not going to do it, then i'm going to vote with the republicans -- >> if you don't have manchin in west virginia, you're going to have sidney powell. >> amanda, no! thank you both. >> i'm just letting you know.

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tonight the sham audit of votes in arizona continues fueled by the big lie. that as cnn reports that the far-right personalities like the my pillow founder mike lindell claim that the former president could somehow be reinstated as president if state election audits upend the 2020 results. i want to bring in arizona's secretary of state katie hobbs. we're in crazy town. good evening. thanks for joining us. the former president desperately trying to claim that he'll be reinstated. he won't. but just yesterday three pennsylvania state lawmakers toured the arizona audit.

one of them is a state senator, doug mastriano. "the washington post" is reporting that he has had the ear of president trump. does that concern you, katie? >> well, this whole entire sham audit concerns me, and we've been saying for quite some time that they are writing the playbook here in arizona to take this across the country. and we've been talking about how does this end, and i don't know that it does. the longer they drag this out, the more money they're able to continue making on it. but they're also able to continue undermining the public's confidence in our election systems, which is a tool to suppress votes in future elections. they're laying the groundwork to try to steal future elections. this whole entire thing is concerning. >> what are you guys -- speaking of, can you use the machines and the things that they're working with again? aren't they vulnerable to hacking and all that, or are

they -- i don't know. are you going to have to get new machines? >> certainly the chain of custody of the maricopa county tabulation and election equipment has been irreparably broken by handing it over to these uncertified individuals, where they kept it locked up in a room that didn't have cameras. we have no idea what they did to it, and there's no way to be able to find out what they did to it to know whether or not the equipment is compromised. and based on guidance from cisa, this kind of harm to the chain of custody does render the equipment unusable in future elections. so, yes, for the 2022 election, maricopa county is going to have to figure out a way to replace this equipment. >> it is so, so dangerous. our time is a bit short tonight, but we like having you. thank you for your perspective. we appreciate you appearing on the show. thank you. >> thank you. >> we'll be right back.

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congressman matt gaetz facing new legal jeopardy tonight. sources telling cnn the justice department is looking into potential obstruction of justice connected to the ongoing v investigation of gaetz and his alleged sexual relationship with a minor. one of the sources says investigators have been told about gaetz discussing -- about the ongoing investigation and that investigators received material about that discussion. joining me now to discuss, dave aronberg, the state attorney for palm beach county, florida. good to have you. how are you doing? >> i'm doing great, don. >> let's talk about this new reporting. it means the investigation is wider and deeper than previously known. what does adding obstruction of justice mean for gaetz? >> well, it's really witness tampering. itnd depends on the evidence bu if he tried to tell a witness to

lie or to mislead federal investigators, he could face up to 20 years in federal prison although because he has no prior record, it would be more like two years according to the federal sentencing guidelines. but you're right, don. i think the importance of this shows you this investigation is much broader than we had thought. a lot of the attention has been paid to child sex trafficking. that's the big whammy punishable by up to life in prison, and it contains a lot of salacious allegations. but it's more than that. it's potential witness tampering, potential identity theft. after all, joel greenberg has pled guilty to that already. then you have campaign finance violations possibly. then you have that controversial trip to the bahamas back in 2018 which could lead to charges of violations of the mann act and pay to play bribery. so there are a lot of headaches ahead for matt gaetz. >> hmm. this is politico's reporting, that investigators are looking at a phone call gaetz had with a witness in a sex crimes investigation. the call reportedly originated

between the witness and gaetz's ex-girlfriend. at some point gaetz joined. we don't know what was discussed on the call, but what is the potential obstruction here? what does this mean, this phone call and so on? >> if he tried to tell a witness who was about to speak to federal investigators to withhold information, to change her story, to even delay talking to investigators -- >> so this is -- hold on. this is the same witness that we talked about? this isn't a different witness, correct? is this the one that's in question? >> this is a witness that knows the 17-year-old girl and is friends with matt gaetz's ex-girlfriend. >> okay. i got it. >> this is not the ex-girlfriend. >> go on. >> on the call, don, you have two people, the ex-girlfriend and this other witness, and both of them reportedly are speaking with federal authorities, which is bad news for matt gaetz. also, don, this tells you why this investigation has lasted so long. i know a lot of people are concerned by the length of this

investigation, but this is about more than whether matt gaetz had sex with an underage girl. you're talking about a host of other potential crimes that need to be investigated. >> and he has denied any and all wrongdoing, correct? >> well, yes, but he also has a history. remember the night before michael cohen was set to testify before a house committee back in 2019? matt gaetz directed a tweet at michael cohen that said -- and i've got it written down. it asked him, do your wife and father-in-law know about your girlfriends? maybe tonight would be a good time for that chat. it was such a controversial tweet that he was forced to delete it and apologize, and the house ethics committee investigated and admonished him, but they found that it fell short of witness tampering. i don't think he's going to be as lucky this time when it comes to federal prosecutors. >> wow, interesting. i remember that. i mean i had forgotten. it slipped my mind until you said it. again, he has denied any

wrongdoing in this, but you remind us at what you believe was an attempt before and it was investigated by the congress. thank you, sir. i appreciate it. >> great to be back on, don. thank you. >> thank you very much. they said there were separate standards for black and white players when it came to dementia examinations, okay? then they were sued. a former player speaks up on the brewing fight against the nfl.

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the nfl agreeing to end the controversial practice of race norming -- that's what it's called -- when evaluating claims of dementia or other forms of

brain impairment. the cognitive tests of former black players are measured by using data that assumes a lower level of cognitive brain function to start with. so former black players call the practice discrimination. let's talk about this with ken belson who covers the nfl for "the new york times." we've been wanting to do this. this is such an amazing story you have been following and writing about here. explain what race norming is, and how was the nfl using it? >> so basically they set up two sets of criteria, one for black players and one for white players, to make assumptions about their cognitive ability years ago and then used it to compare with how they're doing now. and as you said in your intro, the black players were presumed to have lower cognitive ability, so that to get an award under

this concussion settlement, they actually had to have much more steeper cognitive decline compared to a white player who is presumed to be, according to these standards, more intelligent or have higher cognitive ability, and any small decline would have -- or smaller decline would have led them to get a cash award from this concussion settlement. the lawyers who brought one of the first cases last year said that white players were getting approved at an estimated two to three times more than black players as a consequence of this. and to just think about the consequences of that, there's about 70% of the nfl right now are black players. so black players having a harder time getting an award from the c concussion settlement is another way of saying the nfl was trying to cut them out of it to save money. >> ken, was this based purely on race? >> yes, well that's sort of the -- i mean on its face, just

judging players by their race is discrimination if you've got just one for blacks and one for whites. it also raises questions about what happens if the player is biracial, hispanic. there's all sorts of complications with just having two sets of categories here. but it sort of gamed out. i mean that's the way this is perceived is that the nfl knew that it was going to be on the hook for hundreds of millions of dollars, and it was looking for ways to make it harder for retired players to get money that was in the class action settlement. and dementia is the largest category of claims that are put in there. as i said, the majority of players in the nfl and retired players are black players. so if you make it harder for the black players to get dementia claims approved, then you're going to keep the cost down. i think that's essentially what their calculus is or what they've been accused of doing.

>> that's messed up. the nfl has denied that the use of race-based norms was discriminatory towards black players. they say, everyone agrees race-based norms should be replaced, but no off the shelf alternative exists, and that's why these experts are working to solve this decades-old issue. the replacement norms will be applied prospectively and retro specktively for those players who otherwise would have qualified for an award but for the application of race-based norms. the question is do you expect to see settlements changed retroactively and could it apply to hundreds of claims? >> it could. we don't know what this new model for looking at players' cognitive abilities will be. they claim it will be race-neutral. that's encouraging, but we still don't know the specifics. and you've got about 7,000 players that took some of the cognitive tests that were offered in this class action

suit. many of them didn't know why their scores were scored the way they were. many of them didn't go ahead and file claims. so it's hard to know precisely how many players could end up getting them. but it's fair to say that hundreds and maybe thousands could end up having a claim approved. now, of course, as i said, the devil is in the details, so to speak, in this new formula they want to develop. >> ken belson is the reporter here for "the new york times." i would encourage you to check out his work on "the times." great work. thank you for appearing. really appreciate it. >> thank you, don. >> thank you. so i want to bring in now former nfl player, another ken. ken jenkins is his name and his wife, amy lewis. how are you? >> brother don, what's happening? >> not much, and a whole hell of a lot. so let's get to you, though. ken, when and how did you start to suspect that black players

experiencing cognitive impairment were being treated differently when it came to the nfl concussion settlement? >> i really was listening to my wife in a group that she's in online with some of the other wives, and stories were coming out every other night about a player who had been denied and the red tape it took to get a settlement and how they had to be tested and retested. all the while these wives were lifting those families on their backs and doing all the work and raising the kids and bringing in the money and also, in some cases, having to really take care of the men. and so, you know, i just followed their lead. i'm actually getting way too much credit for this because it's the wives who really brought this to the forefront. >> i'm going to bring in your wife in just a minute. but i want to ask you since i did have the other ken on, the reporter, how grateful are you for his work and his reporting? >> well, it's fantastic, and i just want to say, you know, don't believe the okeydoke. you say that all the time, right? because i don't trust the nfl to

do anything that's going to hurt them financially. what i'm really afraid of now is they're going to lower the bar and make it tougher for all players to qualify for any kind of settlement. but then they're going to say it's fair. so i don't trust them. you know, they're smart, they're big. they have a lot of power. they have a lot of money. and i don't see -- they gave themselves a side door out of this one, but they got caught. and we're going to see what the next side door looks like because this thing just always -- it's always something, don. it's always something. >> dr. lewis, let's bring you in because he said you and the wives deserve the credit. as an m.d., please tell us what more can you tell us about this concept of race norming? what do you have to say about this? >> so i'm actually a doctor of chinese medicine. i just want to clarify that. but i'm here as a wife as you know, and i feel very blessed because my husband right now is

cognitively healthy. but so many of my friends, i've listened to the struggles and their stories, and it's just heartbreaking. and we felt like we were the ones because we don't have a claim against the nfl, that we could speak out because so many of our friends and their families could not. >> quickly, doctor, if you will, so how did you and the other wives -- you have a group that you discuss this with? >> we had a casual group, a group of wives who are friends. our husbands were former teammates. so we got together, and we wanted to really support each other. and as a group, we developed a petition that we put online with change.org, and we got 50,000 signatures, a whole lot of support for our husbands and for the struggles that they were going through and the idea, how

dare the nfl decide that black players are cognitively less than white players? they played the same game. they were in the same locker room, and yet the fact that for economic reasons, they decided -- >> yeah. >> yep. >> don, i've been wanting to say this all night, but it's like them saying that chris cuomo is smarter than you just because he's white. >> well, we know that ain't true. [ laughter ] we know the truth about that. you guys are great. thank you so much. look, thanks for appearing and keep us updated on what happens, okay? look, you're speaking of chris, but in all seriousness, there's safety in relationships. when you develop relationships like the women did online, look at what happens when you have that sort of camaraderie and togetherness. so thank you both. >> don, we definitely want chris seager off this case. he cannot represent us anymore. >> keep us updated.

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