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you get the upgrade. now the energy makes sense. it is the laura coates. >> it was my personal wind machine. >> intense intelligence. it was taking on my basically little better than lizard brain. >> what a way to have a friday night. thank you for saying that. ufo and waves of intelligence. there's a connection. >> some people believe your sense of what's right and wrong. your quickness. maybe you have green skin under there. maybe it is from some where else. >> no, chris, i woke up like this. i woke up just like this. what are you talking about? >> what are you talking about? do i have enough concealer on? >> whatever. >> have a great night, my friend. >> you too. >> this is "don lemon tonight," i am laura coates in for don. democracy is at risk with
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there is the threat from increasing cyber warfare that this country is frankly not prepared for. new urgency tonight from the biden administration over this country's vulnerabilities to attacks from criminal syndicates based from russia. attacks of everything to one of to a major gas pipeline. government agencies and one the world's top meat producers, director wray says it is like dealing with terrorism after 9/11. "wall street journal" quote journal a will the of parallels, importance and focus by us on disruption and prevention. the white house saying president biden views the attack as a rising national security concern. >> on this ransomware attack, does the president views those as a national security threat? >> i think the president views those as a rising national security concern and an area
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where we need to continue to keep our focus and keep our assets focused on energy and brain power on what we can do to address this. this is a priority to him and areas where we'll be spending a significant amount of time in the coming months. >> our democracy is imperial with threats from the outside and the inside. america is becoming disinformation nation as social media being used to spread lies from qanon conspiracy theories to the big lie of non-existing election fraud. facebook announcing today the former president whose lies incited the insurrection will remained suspended from their platform until january 7, 2023. the day after the second anniversary of the capitol attack. that could mean he could be back on facebook just in time to campaign for 2024.
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the white house says social media has the responsibility to crack down on disinformation. >> any platform that's disseminating millions of information to americans, has the responsibility to crack down false information whether it is about the election or the vaccine. >> disinformation about the election. that's what fuelled one of the darkest days in this country's entire history. that's what almost got then, vice president killed. mike pence, well, he says this. >> president trump and i spoke many times since we left office, i don't know if we'll see eye to eye that day. but i will be proud of what we accomplished for the american people the last four years.
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>> i know he that had to look down on his script when he said that last part. mike pence's boss incited the insurrection with his lies. who slams his own vice president for failing to stop the certification of the vote. did nothing to help him. all pence can muster is they don't see eye to eye on that day. i bet they don't. >> i want to go right now to the urgency over cyber attacks. joining me now is phil mattingly and former fbi director andrew mccabe, thank you both for being here tonight. it is nice to see both of you but not for this, of course. let me start with you, phil, fbi is director wray is comparing the threat of the attack to 9/11.
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that's a dire warning. how is the biden administration responding to this? >> it's a rising urgency to address something that laid bare the sheer scale of vulnerability. whether it is trying to harden defenses as it relates to private companies that are in large part in control of these infrastructure pieces but also trying to figure out what the u.s. can do. the biden administration ordered a rapid strategic review where the president is expecting a series of options in terms of what they can do to push back on these attacks. they are expected to be retaliatory measures he's presented with and disable some of these networks and counter but also working with allies and lining up alliances to push back as well. you will see a large meeting with russian president vladimir putin and while the u.s. is not blaming the russian government for these ransomware attacks that occurred. they know these criminal syndicates are located in the
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country, they want to hold those countries accountable on some levels. you got a series of things going on right now. one of the bigst issues on cyber security is the the current federal laws simply do not allow the type of interaction and communications between those private firms from the government to do a better job to defend than the course of the last several years. that's up to lawmakers to change. for right now the administration is trying to give people reasons to cooperate. and make sure they have options to retaliate. this isn't stopping soon. it is likely going to ramp up. >> week after week we hear about this. it is hard to imagine what greater incentives not to happen to you. ransomware is a serious thing and they are paying a pretty penny to get back online. these attacks are hitting so many critical aspects over society.
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in just the past few weeks, we are talking hospitals and food and ferries and gas are all impacted. where is our country the most vulnerable? is it something on the horizon that we can't imagine yet? >> we are vulnerable everywhere to this threat. if the private sector has not gotten that message yet, it is long overdue. the director's word were pressing in one way, it is similar to the after math of 9/11. we need to think this as a whole society approach. after 9/11, i know from my own experience from the fbi, we didn't just do one thing to try to deter terrorist threats. we did everything we could think of and that's the way the government and the partnership they have at the private sector needs to think about this threat today. we needed to build partnerships and intelligence better and
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forge deeper relationships with our foreign partners to confront it globally and most of all, we need to impose consequences on those road nations like russia that are responsible for many of these attacks and at least responsible forgiving safe harbor to the criminals who are attacking us now. >> to be fair he talked about the challenges imposed by 9/11, he compared the challenges now of the whole government approach you are speaking about. andrew, you raised this and you did as well, phil, vladimir putin is dismissing that that russia was not involved and he called it nonsense. could putin put a stop to this if he wanted to? that's a wink and a nod? >> absolutely, he could. >> they don't respond to tough talks, they respond to power.
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if we put them in a position where they are paying a price for this that's taken place from russia, and if they fuel the consequences from that activity then they'll put a stop to it. until that happens, he's going to continue to laugh it off and deny it and look the other way. >> of course, andrew, you are talking about the idea of using some level of persuasion and opposed to just assertion. etcetera, phil, i got to ask you, how do you think the president intends to handle this when he meets with putin face-to-face next month. will it be similar to what andrew is talking about and trying to ensure they know they mean business or it will be this sort of conversations about what one should not do. >> based on the conversations the president has had, it will
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be much more formal. -- former. president biden when he talks about his relationship with putin, they known each other for a number of decades and met in person before and they spoken several times on the phone. the president makes clear that he goes out and says what he thinks need to happen. does not mean president putin is going to respond and do exactly what he wants. the sense from the president is they don't feel there is any reason to be delicate or ginger to get the question across. -- message across. the real question is, we want to know how important this issue is. there is aggression in yu ukraine and the wind solar. no smart shortage of major issues. that's how important it is for american officials. the question is what comes out of this meeting? does the biden administration feels like they will get immediate results from this face-to-face meeting or more
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repercussions need to be imposed over weeks, months or longer for them to start seeing results. most officials i talk to thinks there is going to be a ladder. they want to ensure the u.s. position is a firm position when they bring this up with president putin even though they are going to deny russia's government had anything to do with it. >> just 11 days. thank you, gentlemen, i appreciate it. facebook announced today keeping former president trump off their platform until january 2023. at that point, facebook will reassess the risk to public safety. let's discuss now with julia and donio sullivan. juliette, you were a former official in the homeland
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security. facebook is saying former president trump is sus pepded until 2023. potentially, he'll miss the midterm election but he could be back in time for the 2024 election. is that right? >> if inciting an insurrection does not get you banned from facebook than what does? facebook is not guaranteeing that trump will be aloud to return to the platform in january 2023. this is what they're saying. i want to show you this. january '23, we'll look to experts to evaluate external factors and instances of violence and peaceful assembly. and civil unrest. if we determine there is still a serious risk to public safety, we'll extend the restrictions. it is quite remarkable. they are acknowledging that trump used their platform to incite violence.
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it is incredible to read that. in terms of the precedent that's set here. not a kdictator but a former president of the united states. >> by the way, donie, even without trump, facebook are expelling the same sorts of lies and conspiracies. what is facebook going to do about that? >> yeah, nothing. the reality is trump has plenty of proxies on facebook. facebook is not changing its policies in terms of fact-checking politicians. you know people like marjorie taylor greene, the president's son, donald trump, jr., they can post whatever she wants about the big lie. that's not going to get taken down. the big lie is going to perpetuate whether trump is on the platform or not. >> donie, you made a good point
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this evening. the reason he was suspended was not about the lies or comments but it was about the insurrection. all the other comments might have been allowed and permitted. we'll have to wait and see. juliet, you are looking at this from a different angle and anti-incitement and recruitment effort. is this long enough when you consider the posts that can spark an insurrection. not even six months ago this happened. this is now going to be 2023, is it isn't the. >> we don't know where trump is going to be in 2023 or what his physical and mental state is going to be. where the party will be. i think facebook bought us time and i could not be more thrilled. i have to be honest at this stage. trump as i have often said is the leader - call him what you
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want of a terrorist or an organization, he incites in ways that are subtle to fight. that is under mine the democratic institution. it is something that we recognize and it took us a long time to recognize. you look at it from the count terrorism. there are proxies. there is no one quite like trump. he's the leader and they do follow him. it maybe too little and too late. facebook is not fixed yet. but in terms of what the alternative could have been, in other words, he gets back on the platform, given where we are right now in terms of the continuing lie and the violence behind the lie and the threat of violence that seems to be permeating our institutions right now. this is a tremendously important move and one that we can address again two years from january 6th.
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i think things will be very different. i guess i should say he's an imminent threat right now and this was an imminent response. that's the way you approach the leader of someone inspires terrorism and essentially undermining our democratic institutions. >> it is shocking to keep people reminded but this was a former president we are talking ability. and the most recent former president. there was an alternative to ban him. that was one of the criticisms he's gotten about this issue. the idea that he could have had an opportunity to let twitter who has already banned him. they could have done the same thing. >> twitter says he's never coming back, could twitter change their mind? >> yes. >> look, facebook, you could potentially say facebook is kicking the can down the road here, they're dealing with an
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extremely difficult situation. it is powerful for a private company to be able to kickoff a sitting president from its platform given the role that the important role public has from the discourse. they are trying to create a rule book because they did not have one up until this point. they did not expect a world leader to behave in the way that trump did. they are trying to create a set of rules and standards that could be applied to leaders elsewhere in the world but for the next 18 months and two years as we go into 2023, facebook is going to have this lingering over their head and they'll have to make that decision. >> juliet and donie, thank you for your time. it is like you are talking about the idea you are building a plane and trying to figure out how to fly it and where you are going to land at the same time. its november wild, wild west
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territory but we have seen a lot of this the last four years. thank you for your time. why are so many people so uncomfortable with conversations about race in america's schools? we'll explain the truth about what critical race theory really is and why the right wants to ban it. hi guys! check out this side right here. what'd you do? - tell me know you did it. - yeah. get a little closer. that's insane. that's a different car. -that's the same car. - no! yeah, that's before, that's after. oh, that's awesome. make it nu with nu finish.
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critical race theory in k through 12 classrooms. georgia's governor supports the ban and gop lawmakers across the country are taking similar action, calling critical race theory divisive and anti-american. the truth is very different. cnn's adam phillips explains what the theory is and why conservatives want to ban it. >> just because i do not want it taught to me children in school, does not mean i'm a racist. >> school children are caught in the cross hairs over a political battle in how race is taught in schools. >> why would you include people to talk about race. that baffles my mind. >> reporter: conservatives began waging their own battle over
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american history and an academic theory calls critical race theory. >> it is an academic concept developed by legal scholars in 1970s and '80s. it states that race and racism is a big part of american history. and still embedded in institutions in law and it still affects the outcomes of black americans and other people of color. >> reporter: gop political figures have seized on i. >> critical race theory teaches that america is an evil country and you are apart of the suppression from the moment you are born. i will not allow federal taxpayer dollars to be used to spread anti-american propaganda. >> reporter: that claim is false. >> they use the umbrella term of critical race theory to describe
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everything that challenges conservative viewpoints of race and racism of american history and they could be talking about anything of the 1619 project to k through 12 schools, teaching students justifiably that some of our founding fathers own slaves. >> reporter: a slew of red states have picked up the torch that former president trump put down. >> let me be clear that there are no room in our classrooms for critical race theory. >> that was florida governor. widely to be a 2024 presidential hopeful. >> reporter: the issue has taken hold in oklahoma which just days ago marked 100 years since one of the deadliest massacre in history occurred in oklahoma. >> i will not stand for publicly
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funded k through 12 schools to define themselves by their sex or race. >> he signed a bill banning teaching certain concepts about race. >> reporter: at a time when republicans are raging against cancelled culture on social media. there has been no such outrage against bans on teaching history that they believe is un-american. >> cancel culture in reverse. if a teacher is acknowledging that america does some ways have a racist past. conservatives are so threatened by this that they are the ones melting down. >> abby phillips, washington. >> i want to talk about all of this with w. kamau bell. the host of united shades of america. it is good to see you. you are not uncomfortable of having these discussions.
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the very nature of your show is have the conversations. why is it that you think that so many folks are uncomfortable of talking about race in schools. you heard governor desantis says there is no room in these schools in the education system for this? why so uncomfortable? >> because they don't want to know the truth. i think a lot of people not in my household or brought up in households where they are taught america was created by god and a perfect nation in every way. that's not the truth. also, let's be clear the right is doing this as a distraction. this is no different than the war in christmas or halal meet in new york street carts. this is a distraction from the things people are doing to damage us. >> the georgia state board of education just banned critical race theory from school. they banned it. i see you're shaking your head but governor brian kemp applauded them and saying this. this dangerous antiamerican
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ideology has no place in georgia classrooms. i mean we just heard what critical theory race was. why are so many people casting it as being anti-american? >> because it sounds like something. it is not about what it is. it is about what it sounds like. we all know, no child in elementary school was learning about critical race theory before this all went down. more kids are going to be learning about critical race theory because you won't stop talking about it. it is no accident that the governor of georgia does not want to teach it but it is restricting voting rights among brown and black folks. it's the same thing. it's a distraction. and over here i'll restrict vote rights. >> maybe we'll call it history and everyone can have a party about that. let's talk about your show, "united shade of america." this is week you are looking
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ahead to 2045 when census expert says the u.s. will become a majority/minority country. you actually visited the people of color already outnumbered people. white people. in philadelphia. >> we had a black police commissioner. >> we had the first black democratic mayor of philadelphia. you go the black people in the seats but the white power structure still exists. i think the future of philly is one that full of conflict between the people and the state i believe. i think that's the reality. it is going to getaway worse before it gets better. >> worse before it gets better. why are people so afraid of a mixed country racially and ethically. >> let's be clear about that. that was ant smith, he said that
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before january 6th, we had that conversation before things got worse. he knew what he was talking about. i think we are talking about the fact that some people, maybe on the left think that that majority/minority means that things will get better. if the power structure don't change, a black police officer does not mean a better police officer, if we don't change the power structures then the country will go on the same path. >> you talk about the concept of race itself, what is important to know of the idea of race. is it tied to power in your mind? >> yes. >> in this country, we have really a system struck on race. and you start of believe that race is a real thing but it is not science, it is social
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structure. we have a lot of things tied into that social structure that are real. race isn't science race isn't real, it does not mean the effects of our system is based on race are not real. we live in a white supremacy system that uses race as a way to allocate power. >> be sure to tune in everyone. thank you so much of an all new episode of "united shades of america." it airs at 10:15 p.m. only on cnn. voting right, you have the southern border, small business, space council and internet, vice president kamala harris is supposed to solve all those problems. she's got the experience but this is still a lot. i make my case, next. the moment you sponsor a job on indeed you get a short list of quality candidates from our resume database. claim your seventy five dollar credit, when you post your first job at indeed.com/home.
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when kamala harris was sworn in as vice president of the united states, we knew it was historic. the first woman, the first black woman, the first south asian woman. we all felt the weight of that extraordinary moment. now some of the most suppression moments rest squarely on her shoulders. six months into the administration she is tasked with spearheading solutions to the most difficult challenges. immigration crisis at the southern border, who are you going to call? call kamala. state's effort to restrict voting rights without any abuse
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evidence of abuse or fraud? call kamala. small business issues. answering that call is an incredibly tall order and even with someone of the undeniable credential of vice president harris. if it were that easy to solve, we would not be we are today. solving our greatest problems it should not be the responsibility of one person. the coordination between three coequal branchs of government all working together. the overwhelming reliance on her speaks volume about the state of our democracy. it shows the dysfunction of washington, d.c. where at times bipartisanship is a pipe drain, other time a punch line. we watch with counting defectors on the party line on one issue
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waiting to see how just one and two senators will vote on another. the needle does not move. it hovers around dysfunction. who are you going to call to move it? kamala harris. the senate's decisive tie-breaking vote. apparently the political jack of all trades. next. if this is not alien, what is it? someone who may know. he's been tracking aerospace for years. threats from the pentagon. stay with us. ♪ ♪ you don't always set out to be a rock star. but when the spotlight finds you. you become one anyway. ♪ ♪ so what's going on?
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new tonight, u.s. officials have found no evidence of the
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spacecraft. making no assessments of what the object maybe. are there more questions of what's flying in our skies. here to discuss, the former director of pentagon, add i am glad you are here, lewis. >> thank you so much for having me. >> thank you. the upcoming defense department report does not actually determine what these unidentified flying objects actually are. it does say they are not alien space. it does not rule it out. it is going to add fuel to the debate that's already brewing. >> the u.s. government has already stated for the record. this is not some sort of secret u.s. technologies. that argument now is finally for
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many decades is off the table. that really only leaves two options, does it? that's one some sort of foreign technology that has somehow managed to leapfrog us or something completely or totally different. i think it is important when we look at this, we look at the context of the u.s. government's involvement in this topic historically. there is documentation that's coming forward and my team members have been able to uncover through the process and it is available for quite some time that demonstrates the u.s. government have been dealing with this issue for 40 years. dc 80 for 70 years. that's problematic. we know that the russians after the berlin wall came down had share a lot of their ufos files with us. we know they have the same problem with us. if that leaves china we would have to consider the fact china
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or another country had some beyond next generation technology for 70 years. as we know that's a really hard secret to keep. furthermore these technologies have been deployed over controlled u.s. aerospace. there is a lot more questions that we have to ask ourselves. let's be clear that the report did not say this was some sort of alien-type or extraterrestrial technology, it says it could not rule it out and that's an important caveat. >> i want to go to the data you were talking about. you did share new declassified info. in our team. they detail intelligence ufos recement lk a tick tack. back to 1947. you got a cia report from 1953 that says swedish airline pilot encountered a silver or white lozenge traveling at high speed.
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fbi report from 1964. it is like a butane tank. some have seen a flying tick tack in recent years as well. i mean what do you think of this pattern, similar characteristics overtime, what's your thought? >> thank you for doing your homework. i think a lot of media has been lazy about this topic. i want to thank you for your courage for reporting this topic. i do know there is still stigma and taboo associated with it. i think the fact that you have pilots separated by decades and generations reporting the same type of on observations describing this white flying tank or white flying lozenge, they're describing the same thing. from the context of the generation they are growing up in. i think it is safe to resume that we are seeing the same object in the sky time and time again. that's a concern because if the argument is if there is some
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foreign technology somehow masters this and it is a thousand years ahead of the united states and demonstrating this technology for the last 70 years, i think we have gotten bigger problems on our hands. >> because of the pattern and overtime you are talking about, if we don't have an answer soon, what these flying phenomenons are, is that is a failure for our national security? >> it certainly, would be a failure, intelligent failure that would eclipse 9/11 by order of magnitude. if this is a foreign technology. i think it is important that we have to keep all options on the table. there are a lot of information right now that suggests it is not. as hard as that may be to digest for some people. it is important that is we approach this topic objectively, we have to try to keep our emotions out of this. there are a lot of preconceived
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narratives about this topic. part of that is because of the socialization of this topic over the last 70 years. we have to keep an open mind and keep all options on the table. if it turns out this technology is not foreign adversary, we need to prepare to have the conversation as well. >> nasa says they are looking into ufo as well. does there need to be a whole of government approach to figure out what they are? especially if they could be intelligence gathering tools for other country. >> right. from a department defense perspective and intelligence perspective, our government should look at this as a national security perspective. there is a whole other facets of this issue. i think we need a whole government approach and we need to have the faa or nasa and our academic institutions and our scientific community, all involved in this. maybe we can start finding some answers.
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i don't think it is the purview of our national security apparatus on things that are not nationally security related. i don't want my government telling me i should think about something. i want spem -- them to provide facts and make a determination on what it means. ultimately, this is a topic that impacts everybody equally and yet differently depends on how we are raised and our logical views, maybe a whole of society conference about this. luis elizondo, i appreciate your time. >> my honor and privilege. a plea deal is imminent. the man accused of assaulting the officer at the capitol, they're in talks in strike of a deal. the officer tells us what is he thinks about it. that's next.
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the justice department's preparing to offer a plea deal to the capitol rioters, accused of brutally assaulting d.c. metropolitan police officer michael fanone. thomas civic, kyle young, and albuquerque head are all accused of beating officer fanone on the capitol steps. he was pulled into the crowd, beaten with a flagpole, and repeatedly tased. his body-camera footage shows just how gruesome the attack was. >> i got one! >> easy. >> every taime i hear that, guy,
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he's got a family. you hear it when they say it? officer fanone has been speaking to don, since just a few days after the insurrection. don's team spoke to him about today's development, and he said he is quote very confident in how his cases are being handled. both, from investigators and prosecutors. tomorrow marks 150 days, since the capitol insurrection. and the justice department confirms approximately-465 defendants have been arrested from nearly-all 50 states. more than 130 people have been charged with assaulting, resisting, or impeding, officers. remember, when republican senator ron johnson said -- said this about january 6th? >> this didn't seem like an armed insurrection, to me. >> well, according to the doj, more than 40 people have been charged with entering the capitol, with a
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deadly-or-dangerous weapon. or causing serious-bodily injury to an officer. those are the facts. thanks for watching. our coverage continues.
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