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fired pepper bomb ammunitions on to the crowd. >> brian todd, u. i am wolf blitzer in the situation room. you can follow me and always tweet the show @cnnsitroom. erin burnett "outfront" starts now. president biden's agenda grinds to a halt. his infrastructure deal as he prepares to come face-to-face with vladimir putin. vice president kamala harris facing criticism. attorney jogeneral garland vowi to get to the stunning leak in the irs. let's go "outfront." good evening, i am erin burnett.
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biden's test, on his first overseas trip stepping on the world's stage for the first time as president. it comes just as his agenda at home is in serious. he's actually right as i speak making his way. this trip will include a face-to-face meeting with the russian president vladimir putin. >> i am headed to the g7 and then to meet with mr. putin to let him know what i want him to know. >> i will be clear that the united states will respond in a robust and meaningful way on the harmful activities. >> biden failed to strike an infrastructure deal with republican senator shelly capito. biden is reaching out another
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group of lawmakers trying to find out a different way forward. top republicans don't think a deal will be reached. >> it is hard for me to see a scenario even ten republicans will vote something far beyond of shelly's discussion at the white house. >> senator cornyn telling cnn, quote, "i think he thinks he's going to get a better deal." all of this led the progressives on the democratic side to say enough is enough. >> let's face it. it is time to move forward. we need to start nailing down the details on this infrastructure package and keeping it, republicans have held us long enough. >> ocasio-cortez is going much
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further tweeting president biden and dems should take a step back and playing patty cake with gop leaders. okay, she made that message loud and clear. that's where progressives stand. they want to leave republicans behind and they want to go in alone. forget it, just go in party lines. the problem with that is democrats would need every single wo single one of their own. senator manchin, that means you, he's got to get on board. tonight he's not changing his tune. does not sound like a guy giving up on republicans. >> there is a conversation on everything. i am just saying a lot of good faith and comradery and everything is working well. >> everything is working well.
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certainly president biden may not agree. phil mattingly is traveling with the president. with the president's agenda imperial right now on infrastructure voting rights and making this trip away from the action at home right now becomes even more high stakes. >> i don't think there is any question about it. you know quite well this is the reality of the job. i feel like i have been told that by multiple white house officials over the course of 24 hours. you will never be focused on one issue and make no mistake about it. this is crucial trip. a president who has made clear the primary goal when it comes to policies is relying on the united states to serve a leadership role to play a dynamic role. all leading up to that meeting with vladimir putin where president biden made it clear
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he'll be very tough face-to-face. he believes and his age tells you that the president believes he can be engaged on the domestic front as well. he'll be available by phone and bipartisan group should they need to get in touch with him. and his chief of staff and all back home and available to meet in person with this group by the president's designation and hoping that'll help break things lose. you have to look at it at a broader perspective. they're recognizing the pressure they are under. they recognize what you just pointed out. they can't do anything democratic only if they don't have senator manchin or kirsten cinema. those two senators got phone calls from president biden
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yesterday. they know what's happening right now and the president made clear i am told that they have an opportunity to strike that bipartisan deal that they say is a necessity. if they can't do it, the president says they are ready to move on. >> phil, thank you very much for your reporting. right now i want to go to chris van holland because he sits on the budget and foreign committee. let me ask you, do you believe in your heart that a bipartisan deal infrastructure is remotely possible? >> so erin, it is good to be with you. i don't think it is shaping up to be successful. that's my assessment. the most important thing is at the end of the day what we pass have to embrace that gold vision that president biden put forward in the american jobs plan and
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the american family plan. even if somehow despite bipartisan agreement were to work out, it would not begin to cover or match that division. no matter what, we need to be working right now on that reconciliation package and bringing everybody on board. after all, the president is negotiated in good faith but just like he did with the american rescue plan when republicans refused to come to the table, we need to do the right thing for the country. >> is there anything that you have heard and sounds like the answer is no given what you are saying about your outlook here. okay, cool, we'll get on board and we'll vote for this even without gop support. to get this through, you need senator manchin, he's not indicated that he's there on a party line vote. >> well, you just said to some
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republicans in the senate. you need to get ten republican senators to have any chance to bring this forward. i don't see any way to count to ten on any kind of bipartisan bill that would meet the president's test or even that narrower test is the first part of the plan. the president has done everything democratic senators asked for. he's engaged of weeks of bipartisan negotiations. at the end of the day if we can't get the republicans on board, we need to move forward. in my view, that time has come. >> are you willing to fail? >> what if manchin does not go with you then you guys fail on a p party vote. >> at the end of the day, when it comes, we'll see the same results and attempt the bipartisan approach. time has run out.
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now we need to take the other path. we can't just wait at the negotiation table. >> i want to ask you, biden is overseas on his first trip in that capacity as president. he's going to meet with vladimir putin next week. it is on the schedule. according to our reporting, there are some in his own administration who are skeptical of setting up a meeting with putin. do you think a meeting with pew the u pu putin is a good idea? >> i do. he needs to make it clear with the conduct coming out of russia. whether if russia who's launching cyber attacks on u.s. infrastructure or the actions putin is taken in ukraine and
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most recently the court's decision in moscow today to outlaw navalny's political move. what this shows is that putin is afraid of democracy and we know that. it would be important for r the pres president, the leader of the free world, somebody focusing on democracy and human rights to tell vladimir putin that what he's doing is unacceptable and you know, why is he so afraid of a vote by the russian people? i think we know the answer but i think it is important that president biden make that point directly. >> senator van hollen. thank you. let's go straight to john avlon. biden is going to meet with putin "to let him know what i want him to know."
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that does not mean a meeting would be unproductive. does it make sense to do this? >> i think so. at the end of the day, it is better to meet in a position of strength to defend democracy and for russians thinking this is a meeting of equals to make it clear that this meeting, meeting putin is more of an irritant but it is going to require tough ta talks. >> this is happening as the president's domestic agenda that's trying to move forward right now that's truly imperial. >> forget bipartisanship, let's go alone. when i ask what you are going to do about joe manchin who seems to have no interests in doing that. he didn't answer that part of it. can they do this alone? they just don't have the votes right now.
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>> i think what you heard senator van hollen say is they should get the version together and see if republicans can negotiate a good faith. put that on mansion. you heard senator thune there saying they need the get ten votes. even if biden is trying, individual senators, let's see what i can give you. that delay could be worded. joe biden does not have the super majorities in congress that fdr and lbj did. the senate needs to realize that they can't get played by republicans with these delayed tactics indefinitely. the january 6th vote itself should be a sign that good faith negotiations are in short supply. timise is ticking.
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seek a commitment to clean. look for the ecolab science certified seal. tonight vice president kamala harris returns back after her first trip. >> do you have any plans to visit the border? >> at some point -- we are going to the border, we have been to the border. this whole thing about the border, we have been to the border. we have been to the border. >> you have not been to the border. >> i have not been to europe. i don't know -- i don't understand the point that you are making. >> "outfront" now dana bash.
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that was the answer her team was prepared for her answer. what are your sources from the white house? >> perplex is what i heard from sources. these are not people who are looking for her to fail. just the opposite. there was a great hope inside the biden administration that this would be a big success and perplex part because this is the question that the biden administration clearly going to get. yes, vice president seems annoyed by that question. the conservative media trying to tied her to immigration. the reality is she was in the region talking about the northern triangle and talking about she says the root causes. this was a question that people
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who have been talking to thought that she could have a turn into what she wanted to talk about as oppose to not answering it and making it a story. and so that was the concern we are hearing from sources. ag again, because this is something that's important for two reasons. first and for most because of the policies. the focus should be on what she's trying to obtain there with regard to all different aspects of talking to the government and talking to businesses and so forth but also because this is her first foreign trip. >> yeah, right. >> she's going to be judged in a big way on that. >> of course i can go to the border but i came here first because this is the root of the
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problem. in addition to immigration which she's leading up the effort on for the administration. vice president harris is leading the efforts on voting rights. that's a lot. but the white house said that, tells you that she's discussing reports fully and closely with biden and this is what she wanted to do. >> that's the reporting of our team. it certainly tracks with what i am hearing. i think the question is what is the it? when it was reported. the question was whether the vice president/senator going up to capitol hill and start negotiating when he was vice president cutting deals on mitch mcconnell on issues and quickly her team says no, that's not
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what she was going to do and understanding that's setting her up for failure. the idea of threading that needle on that issue will be difficult. they instead it going out in the country rallying the stake holders and getting public support by the idea of federal legislation for voting. the issue is these are complex problems and the vice president is trying to define her role in a narrow way and the nuance is kind of hard to get across and they're definitely feeling that inside her office. >> i am sure. >> dana, thank you very much. dana bash is reporting. an inside look at the r revealing leak exposing how little some billionaires paid in income taxes. who's behind the irs personal tax data? should it have been pub ilishedn the first place?
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the richest people and the taxes they pay or don't. mayor garland is investigating the leak of 15 years of confidential irs documents from thousands of taxpayers. that data publish reveal ed a stunning report. >> this is to the great privacy of the respect of their tax returns. i promise you it will be at the top of my list. >> some of the richest people on the planet including jeff bezos, elon musk and michael bloomberg paid little or if any federal income taxes. the true tax rate for jeff bezos was .98%. they calculated that by
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comparing how much his wealth grew compared to how much he paid in income taxes. that's the calculation they used for this rate. that rate for elon musk, the second richest person was 3.27%. for warren buffett calling higher taxes on the rich, his tax rate happens to be the lowest of all, .1%. less than 10 cents for every $100 he added to his wealth. doug, you said this never should have been reported by pro-publica, why? >> revealing taxpayer information makes you liable for
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f five years of prison term. that says our nation values the confidentiality of these documents. pro-publica knowing that and disclosed the numbers anyway. >> what do you say to doug's reasoning? >> first off, we should be clear that pro-publica did not do anything wrong. they obtained the leak and published it. we learned a lot from this information. we learned the definition of income that the irs uses is far too narrow because these billionaires are accumulating vast amounts and never gets taxed. >> so pro publica -- let's talk
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about this. they say quote ", we do not know the identity of our source, we do not solicit the information they sent us. we do not know for certain if this is true. we have considered the possibility that information we received could have come from a state actor hostile to american interests." >> so doug, how important is the source? they're being open here. it could have come from china or russia or somebody hostile. they're not beating around the bush. >> here is the point. these documents should not have been made public. we made it a priority that they should not be made public regardless of who gave it to pro republica. did we learn that billionaires
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falsifying their documents? did we learn anything of tax code? no. we klearned nothing by the revelation of these documents. all we did is harm the confidentiality of individual's tax returns. >> i mean there is a possibility because of a hostile state actor which i know, does that change your analysis at all if this came from somebody inside the irs who feels an obligation to leak it and by the way carries a jail sentence. >> here is what we know for sure that this information came from the irs. none of the billionaires dis disputed the accuracies of the information. i think the real point is the information has value and p pro publica sharing it with the
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american people. we did publish the amounts that people paid. there was an out cry by the wealthy and we stopped doing it because they didn't like it. >> doug, to that point and they said, they're going to be doing stories all year from the data they got. one point they made loud and clear and everything in here is legal. somehow when you soo ee the nums and you can explain people with explicit examples, it may raises awareness, should we consider something different or a policy conversation. is there not any value to it in that perspective? >> all of these are noble and well-known techniques. if people are outraged and people should be.
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they should not be looking at jeff bezos or warren buffett. they should be looking at capitol hill at the white house. that's the place we want to change it f. if you don't like it right now, that's the way you change it. not by going against the law of the land and the values that embodied them the way p pro publica did. >> years of trying to get donald trump's taxes and they never came out. and now they have 14,000 americans' tax returns including the top wealthiest people. it is bizarre, is it? >> it is an amazing thing. i think it really underscores that sometimes the real scandal is precisely and i agreed with doug, the engineers should be focusing on tax policies. the reality for many people what makes these abstract debates
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law. chasten, the husband of pete buttigieg's, thank you for coming on. it is nice to see you. >> nice to see you, too. >> you got the biden justice department defending a law that allows right religious schools to discriminate against lbgtq, how do you square that circle? >> well, the justice department is doing its job defending federal law. that's why the biden administration is asking the republican party to pass the equality act. we need to pass the equality act so we don't have to keep on having these debates whether people get to discriminate against lbgtq americans in the
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workplace or at home. >> you took on the chairwoman ronald mcdaniel. here is what she tweeted. >> "gop is proud to have doubled our lgbtq support over the last four years and we'll con contcont continue --." >> you fired back. revisit your party platform before you open your mouth about pride. i know you didn't do this out of anger, you thought about it and chose your words and you considered about it. why was it so important for you to send that message to mc mcdaniel. >> i was one of those kids.
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religious is not an issue. i know a lot of lbgtq people who considered themselves as religious. i grew up in a religious home and i thought i was going to be a disappointment from my parents. i ran away from home and i contemplate suicide. her language is divisive and dangerous and it is making space for people in their party who seek to harm lbgtq americans. desantis vetoed mental health funding for survival of pulse. i do not believe. i no know what it is like to be the outside of acceptance. it hurts when i know that she's
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purposely hurting vulnerable kids in this country. >> i think it is so important when you said, i grew up in a religious household and this is my experience. i don't think a lot of people understand the stress point of what she said. you do write a little bit about this, chasten of your memoir and the anxiety and so much that you left home and at one point living in your own car and you write about your decision of leaving the house. i said i was sorry but i was such a disappointment that i could not stand to be in the house. we can call this phobia and the message is culture sense to gay kids. i left and i assumed they were mad at me and they would not want to talk about it unless i somehow took it back. it is really hard the read that. i think your perspective -- >> it is really hard to live it.
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>> thank you. by the time you and i are done chatting tonight about five kids in this country will have contemplated about taking their own life because often times folks from a deeply held reli religious background will tell them that they are twisted and they are broken. that something is fundamentally wrong with them. that's what i believed growing up. that's why i believe we need to pass the equality act so that every vulnerable child in this country can look to washington and know they are safe and supported and there are federal legislation that protects them. at school and in the workplace and even hate crime legislation is so important especially for our trans community right now and trans women of color. i think a lot of people want to believe that pride is rambos and parades and celebrations but our community is consistently under attack. that's why talking about this is
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so important. >> so you and secretary pete buttigieg have been in d.c. for about six months now after living in south bend. people see you and you post pictures on social media like this one. a second gentleman. you guys are out and about. what has it been like adjusting to this new life? this public life and this responsibility that you have taken on in washington? >> i never thought growing up that i would be in this position, i love it. i love being here and being in d.c. and being apart of this new wave and generation of hope coming to washington, d.c. you can feel it here in d.c. of the sigh of relief that we have leadership back in washington. we have people in the white house who actually cared about lbgtq americans and it makes me happy being out and proud with my husband going out to dinner
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17-years-old were born and raised in honduras in one of the most dangerous countries in the world. for the boys, it is home and they'll miss it. they're about to leave for the united states. at the bedroom they share, they show us their new prized possession. their brand new shoes they'll use to make the trip to the u.s. mostly on foot. >> i am plan to leave on the 20th of this month with these clothes here they're going to bring with them. >> it feels terrible because we are going to leave my mother but we have no future here. >> they'll join the tens of thousands of other hondurahondu.
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starting with category four hurricane that made landfall two weeks apart decembeimated this region. people lost everything and half a year later, hardly anything is back to by mud during hurricane flooding. we lost everything says this man. i want to leave because i can't find a job. there's no support from the government. and just up the street we meet another family, another home wiped out during the storm. water leaks right through the walls of their shelter made of old doors and tarps. they sleep on mattresses that are on a dirt floor in a house made out of makeshift supplies. we're desperate he tells us.
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we don't have a choice saying he'll soon be forced to migrate north still. it's hard to believe six months after this hurricane, authorities have done so little to help people clean up. look at this. what used to be a house got completely filled up with mud during the hurricane and now of y obvious lily the family that li here can't come back. they have been making repairs giving us this video of their work. they say repairs like this take time and back to back hurricanes will be difficult for any country to deal with. critics from citizens to ngos say their efforts haven't been nearly enough. in making the recovery worse, all this damage came during a different kind of storm. the pandemic. a government mandated shutdown and covid-19 restrictions meant unemployment soared and around half of honduras lives below the poverty line says the world bank. if they had more opportunities, people wouldn't have to leave
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this country says this local priest. for now we'll take the time we have with each other because in a few days, the boys will likely end up here a bus station where every night a bus leaves for the guatemala border. from there many make a reluctant walk north. this family of four plans to do just that. we can't take it anymore this dad says. there is no job or education for his kids. we have no other option but to leave. you know, in that neighborhood, erin, where those 17 boys are leading from, it's a dangerous place. we had to let local gang leaders know we would be there so there weren't any surprises. we spent five or six days in the area and the take away for us is you put all politics aside, seeing the poverty and violence and lack of opportunity, if you want people,less people to be arriving at the southern u.s. border, you have to give them reasons to stay.
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tonight, cicadas because apparently my preferred saying of cicadas is not preferred. they are targeting the commander in chief. >> watch out for the cicadas. i just got one. it got me. >> president biden swatting one away. cic c cicadas swarming a plane that was delayed more than six hours. pete is "outfront". >> reporter: as president joe
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biden arrived bound for the g 7 summit, the buzz was about one thing. >> watch out for the cicadas. i just got one. it got me. >> reporter: his warning just after the flight chartered to kerry white house press was grounded by cicadas flying into a critical piece of equipment. delta airlines says the bugs swarmed the airbus a 330s auxillary power unit rendering it unworkable. the small jet engine at the tip of the tail is required for backup poiwer. the press reboarded a replacement plane six hours late but one could call it a delay almost two decades in the making. cicada is making its once every 17 year appearance across the mid atlantic. they're emerging so intense they registered on a weather service.
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>> they make themselves known by appearing in such large numbers. >> reporter: cicadas have come out of the ground, shed their skin and are in tree tops with males screeching for a mate. but part of their partner's search includes bumping into anything including cnn correspondent manu raju in the halls of congress. >> oh my god. [ bleep ]. [ bleep ] cicada. >> they don't have behaviors to try to avoid people or predators. because of that when they're out, they will go anywhere. so they will be climbing up your car. they will be climbing into planes. they will be climbing up trees and into bushes. >> reporter: commercial airliners parked by the pandemic were sealed up to prevent things from getting inside including insects. cicadas cannot make it to high cruising altitude typical of commercial airliners. the retired captain says that means cicadas can only bug
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travelers already on the ground. >> i think that's probably the last thing that we should be worried about, a cicada in an airplane. they will be gone in a couple weeks and you're not going to see them for another 17 years. >> i love the sound they make. thanks for watching us. "ac 360" starts now. there is no place like home. truly. just ask a president overseas with a domestic agenda as big as the world but tougher to navigate. john berman here in for anderson. it's not as though the goals president biden set for his first trip abroad were not am wish sho -- ambitious enough, either. arriving for the g 7 summit he's seeking to repair relationships strained by the predecessor and recommitting to nato and coordinating transatlantic policy on fighting covid facing down china, cooling the planet and don't forget confronting vladimir putin who he'll meet
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