"don lemon tonight" starts right now, and he was generous enough to give me some of his show. to highlight that exceptional american who gave back scholarship money. >> everyone's always giving to you, chris. are you ever going to give, in return? >> i am going to give you something. >> what a selfless act. seriously, we need -- we need more people. >> if i had any emotional depth, i would have wept. her parents, her mother, worked so hard to get her to america. she was born in the uk. they went to ghana. the qkid didn't get her till sh was 9. and they just worked the system, got the opportunities. the mother raised her kid, worked two jobs, went to community college, paid tuition. the kid kills it in school. gets into harvard. they give her a scholarship.

and she gives it back, because she remembers how hard it was for her mother. and she had been blessed enough. >> yeah. listen. the -- an amazing, young lady. but there are so many stories, like that, in america. people who were -- weren't born with silver spoons in their mouths. or as a former-governor of texas used to say, with silver -- george bush, he was born with a silver foot in his mouth. and richards. you remember that? that was her line. >> may she rest in peace. >> there were many people who aren't born with silver spoons in their mouths. who do things like that. who have every reason to complain, to be aggrieved. and they just aren't, because it's just not in them. and they realize, the incredible opportunity we have, in a country like america. to live in this country. and so, you know, i think that's a lesson for a lot of folks. who are out there, who are privileged. were born with money and with ease and with comfort, to stop complaining so much and look on the bright side. look at young ladies, like the young lady you had on earlier.

>> i will tell you what, though, you are absolutely right about everything you said except, one thing. i have never heard of anybody giving back the money, in that situation. >> never. >> never. that's all i am saying. and that's why i had her on the show. not because they worked the system. because, as you said, there are a lot of people who come here and make the most. my grandfather dug graves. he didn't speak english until he was 8. priest came and said kid's got to go to school. he got in there and with the drive and determination of his family, one generation, you went from a grave digger to a governor. but to give the money back? my pop was tight as two coats of paint. i never saw him give a dollar back to anybody. >> my sister -- my sister says don squeaks when he walks. he has every -- the first dollar that he ever -- that he ever made. >> i believe that. although, you did pay for lunch. that's why i love you, don lemon. >> sir, this is, what, your

great, great, great grandfather? >> no, my grandfather. >> your grandfather? >> yeah, i'm second generation. >> oh, got it. so, wow. look at that. >> that's why i still is have a little bit of the accent. >> i was going to say look at his grandkid. still, doesn't speak correct english. >> skipped a generation. >> love you, brother, i will see you soon. >> i love you. >> have a good night. this is d"don lemon tonight." and the question is -- the question is -- are we watching bipartisanship theater? are we? or is it a real effort to get something done? or is it just theater? just look at what is going on in the congress, tonight. the president, joe biden, his agenda. stalled by senate republicans, determined to dig in their heels and obstruct, at every turn. infrastructure. they are talking. police reform. talking. right? voting. all that. talking. what will, all, of this talking amount to? mitch mcconnell, no surprise,

not yet onboard with negotiations between a handful of members of his own part and democrats trying to salvage some kind of deal on infrastructure. after president biden shut down the talks with shelley moore capito, last night. >> yesterday, president biden showed that his patience for the smart, bipartisan approach was wearing thin. he directed democratic leaders in congress to get ready to ram through more expansive, unrelated spending, unilaterally. >> this, from the guy who said 100% of his focus is on blocking president biden's agenda. now, he says, the president doesn't have the patience for bipartisanship? huh. who was it who said, just yesterday, that the era of bipartisanship is over? >> as you look to what the majority leader has in mind for

june, it's pretty clear, the era of bipartisanship is over. >> hmm, well, that as progressives are getting increasingly fed up with the, so far, fruitless bipartisan outreach. like alexandria ocasio-cortez, who tweets mitch mcconnell's plan is to run out the clock. meanwhile, joe manchin, who is leading those bipartisan senators trying to hammer out a deal on infrastructure. and who, pretty much, doomed the for the people act when he said that he wouldn't vote for it. he is all for talking. >> perhaps, you could end up giving too much to republicans in some of these negotiations. is that a concern that you have? some of your fellow democrats have already raised concerns about. >> we are just all talking together. we're all working together. >> everybody's just talking. they're just talking and they're just working together, and what is getting done? just talking. democrat john tester, who is also in that group, says the

talking can't go on forever. >> i don't want to drag this out forever. you know, i remember other issues that have been drug out till they die. >> yeah. well, like i said, is this bipartisanship theater? or a real effort to get something done? will republicans run out the clock, while democrats are talking? >> if we can get a bipartisan deal, that's a good thing. but no voter that i have talked to in georgia's said to me what's most important is that we get a bipartisan deal. i think people want to see change, in their ordinary lives and we have got to do infrastructure. >> yeah. bipartisanship, for the sake of bipartisanship, is empty. and with his agenda and holding pattern at home, the president is on a crucial-first international trip with a warning for vladimir putin and a promise for the rest of the world. >> i am heading to the g7. then, to the nato ministerial.

and then, to meet with mr. putin to let him know what i want him to know. we're going to make it clear, that the united states is back, and democracies of the world are standing together to tackle the toughest challenges. and the issues that matter most to our future. >> that, as the vice president, kamala harris, wraps up a rocky, first, foreign trip. sources tell cnn summit administration officials are perplexed by the vice president kamala harris's answers to questions, like this one. >> do you have any plans to visit the border? >> i, at some point -- you know, i -- we are going to the border. we've been to the border. so, this whole -- this whole -- this whole thing about the border. we've been to the border. we've been to the border. >> you haven't been to the border. >> and i haven't been to europe. i mean, i don't -- i don't understand the point that you're making.

>> yeah. let's be honest. i mean, that was a layup. that was an easy question. that was, clearly, a question that the vice president was going to get. perplexing. the answer is perplexing. and those sources say the white house is worried that, what looked like a swing and a miss will overshadow what they hoped would be a successful trip. here's the question, though. yes, that is, obviously, a question that she should have been prepared for. like, when i was in california, i went to the border. when i was a senator, i went to the border. now, i'm focused on getting the job done, and what i can do here, in washington. easy. easy. there's a vice president being held to the standard of the office? or a different standard? we are going to discuss that tonight. that, as a newly-released watch-dog report says that park police did not clear protestors from the lafayette park last june so that the then-president could march to st. john's church for a photo op.

okay. then, inspector general's report saying that the protestors were cleared out so a so-called -- so a contractor could install a fence around the white house. and that it was part of a previously-planned operation to do so. but there are a whole-lot of quest questions the report just doesn't answer. why didn't they talk to the secret service? why didn't they talk to bill barr? why didn't they talk to the white house personnel? and then, there are the redactions that raise more questions, in this report. on page ten, for example, of this report, we learned that park police acting chief got a request from an official. the request is redacted. and we don't know who that official was. we only know the acting chief, quote, rejected the request and reiterated to the official that uspp's operational plan and sta stated the clearing operation could begin once all law enforcement officers under the command of the uspp were in

place. and remember, when we saw the then-attorney general watching the crowd in lafayette park. the report tells us a lot more about what was happening, from page 14. quote, at approximately 6:10 p.m., news video showed the attorney general entering lafayette park with his security detail and other white house staff members. protestors in the crowd, recognized the attorney general and began shouting at him. the uspp operations commander heard the change in the crowd, saw the attorney general, and walked over to him. news video showed the uspp operations commander speaking with the attorney general, and then hanging his head. while another, unidentified official patted the uspp operations commander on the back. and there's more. the report going on to say that barr asked, are these people still going to be here when potus comes out? the uspp operations commander told us that he had not known, until then, that the president would be coming out of the white house and into lafayette park. he said that he replied to the attorney general, are you

freaking kidding me? and then, hung his kidhead and walked away. the attorney general then left lafayette park. denied that the attorney general ordered him to clear lafayette park and h street. okay. we have got a lot more to come, on this report, later in the show. but this. this is really something. i want you to hear what louie gohmert, a united states congressman, i need to point out, what he said today in a hearing by the house natural resources subcommittee on national parks, frequorests, an public lands. here it is. >> i don't understand, from what's been testified to, and the blm, you want, very much, to work on the issue of climate change. i was informed by the past director of nasa that they have found that the moon's orbit is

changing, slightly. and so is the earth's orbit around the sun. we know there's been significant solar flair activity. and so, is there anything that the national forest service or blm can do to change the course of the moon's orbit or the earth's orbit around the sun? obviously, that would have profound effects on our climate. >> i would have to follow up with you on that one, mr. gohmert. >> well, if you figure out a way that you, in the forest service, can make that change, i'd like to know. >> it would be funny. well, okay, it is funny. it is funny, when a member of the united states congress asks whether the national forest service or the bureau of land management can change the orbit

of the moon or the earth. spoiler alert. they can't. also, nasa says changes in the way the earth orbits the sun, while they don't explain climate change, either, which is caused by humans because science. so, even if the congressman was asking in jest, mocking the idea that two government agencies could do anything about the climate crisis. well, he's just wrong. and let's remember, the congressman is not such a fan of facts. less than a month ago, he tried to downplay the deadly insurrection at the capitol, because he claims it was nothing more than people without firearms coming into a building. >> there's no evidence, as has been said on january 7th, that this was an armed insurrection. armed, meaning, with firearms. there were no firearms. there have been things worse than people without any firearms coming into a building.

>> armed but it has to be firearms. flags. okay. so, what do you expect, from a guy who -- bear spray -- what do you expect from a guy who, hours after the insurrection, voted to overturn the election results? that's the republican party. which brings me, back, to my original question. bipartisanship theater? or a real effort to get things done? time will tell. talking, talking. with all that at home, the president is on a mission to prove to the world that democracy, still, works. >> i believe we're in an inflexion point in world history. the moment where it falls to us to prove that democracies will not just endure, but they will excel.

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england, tonight, for the g7 meeting. then, it's the nato summit and his one-on-one sitdown with vladimir putin. abroad as president and it comes as his domestic, especially a bipartisan deal on infrastructure, is in danger of falling apart. so let's bring in now, cnn's chief white house correspondent, kaitlan collins, traveling with the president. fareed zakaria, the host of fareed zakaria gps is here, as well. good evening, to both of you. i should say good morning, to you, kaitlan. i will start with you, first. this trip for the president, meeting with nato. then, he meets with vladimir putin. and happening while his domestic agenda is stalling and looking for a lifeline. what are we going to see on this trip, kaitlan? >> well, it is a lot of challenges ahead of the president. i think, what we saw from his first remarks when he touched down in the uk, was that he really wants to kind of reassure allies that donald trump is not president, anymore.

and they don't have to have this sense of apprehension that they did for the last four years, when it came to summits like the g7, like his visit with nato allies that's coming up in brussels in a few days. and so, he is seeking to reassure this message that he -- basically summed it up earlier when he said america is back. and the united states is going to seek to not only reassure those allies but rebuild those alliances that have been, you know, such a cornerstone of the united states for the last-several decades. while he's here. but it does come with challenges because, i think, what a lot of these european allies learned from donald trump's presidency is how quickly things can change based on an election. and so, he can seek to reassure them. but i think the concern that is always in the back of their mind is going to be, well, what happens in four years? and so, that is what he's balancing, while you're right, also, balancing those domestic travels -- or those domestic troubles, i should say, at home, that the white house has said he is going to be juggling. basically, the foreign obligations and the domestic ones, while he's overseas. >> you know, fareed, kaitlan

said he's going to try to prove that america is back. another way of putting it may be that he wants to prove that democracy can still work. listen to this. >> we have to discredit those, who believe that the age of democracy is over, as some of our fellow nations believe. must expose, as false, the narratives that decrees of dictators can match the speed and scale of 21st challenges. >> so, how challenging is that, fareed? how challenging is that message, when we see his -- his stalled agenda here, at home? and it wasn't even six months ago, we saw an insurrection at our capitol? >> well, i think, he has a pretty strong hand, right now. look. we did see an insurrection. but he was -- he was elected. he was inaugurated. he is the president. and he brings a pretty powerful one-two punch to the party. which is, he has demonstrated that the united states

government is back, as a competent, can-do superpower. don't underestimate the degree, to which the world has been impressed by the vaccination drive. we are now, basically, leading the world in -- in -- in -- on the vaccination drive. we are entering the post-pandemic world faster, and more fully, than any other country in the world. everybody is envious about that. the second piece is this very important announcement. which we think is going to come. of donating 500 million vaccines to the world. so, what you're demonstrating is american power and american generosity. this -- the infrastructure agenda. look. these are democracies. they understand politics. they understand there is going to be back and forth. but those two first things. the fact that the -- the u.s. government is leading the world in vaccines. and is now willing to offer half-a-billion vaccines to the poorest countries in the world. that's a pretty powerful one-two punch. >> yeah, and they -- look, they

see our news. they are paying attention. they don't see the -- the craziness and the -- the jerking back and forth. and -- and, you know, all of the rhetoric coming out of a president's mouth every-single day in the media and that makes a big difference. the most -- and the most anticipated part of this trip, though, fareed, is a week from today. that's when our president biden is going to meet with vladimir putin. here's what he says. i've been clear. the united states will respond, in a robust and meaningful way when the russian government engages in harmful activities. i'm going to communicate that there are consequences for -- for violating the sovereignty of democracies, in the united states and europe and elsewhere. >> what -- what -- what needs to come out of that putin summit? what does success, for biden and this administration, look like, fareed? >> it's -- it's a complicated business, when you're dealing with countries as powerful as

russia. and it gets even more difficult, when you are dealing with china. because, on the one hand, you are trying to find a way to deter. the russians are really the biggest spoilers on the world stage. if you think about it, they are the -- you know, there -- there has been almost no annexation of territory, by military force, since 1945. the russians did it with ukraine in crimea. the -- the scale of russian cyberattacks, really, dwarves almost everything else. the russians in syria, russians in afghanistan, everywhere, they have been playing the role of a spoiler. and what biden has to try to find a way of doing is pushing back against that. but also, holding out some hope that there can be a working relationship. where the russians, also, get something out of it. you see what i mean? it can't just be all push. there has to be some pull of integrating russia in some way and it's going to be hard. putin is a very tough character. but -- but my guess is biden

will try to establish a working relationship, as well. >> yeah, listen, kaitlan, kind of feels like yesterday. but talk to me about how this white house is trying to avoid the comparisons to trump's meeting with putin. where he stood on the stage next to him and said i don't see why it wouldn't be him. completely, so capitulating to -- to putin. >> yeah. i don't think that they're concerned that this summit will be anything like that. but i think they want to make sure that it is nothing like what happened in helsinki three years ago. and, don, that was the last time we saw a u.s. president meet with putin. and actually, appear alongside him. and of course, there was so many questions about not just that press conference where former-president trump embraced putin, and embraced his denials of election interference. going against what the u.s.-intelligence community showed. but also, it's the way he met with him. where there was a notetaker in the room but the president wanted the notes after they had met and sat down. and he didn't want them to talk

about what happened. and then, of course, later, when he landed back in the united states, he tried to rewrite what had actually gone on during that summit. and so, i think that's why you have seen biden be so forceful in his remarks about putin, publicly. but i think there are some real questions facing the white house and one is what are the deliverables that you could potentially get out of this summit? what is, really, the benefit that the u.s. gets from having this summit so early on in his presidency? there are questions about weighting the sanctions on the company behind the pipeline which ukraine has said benefits and empowers russia. and so, there are questions facing biden as he does sit down with putin. and they say they want this predictable, stable relationship with russia. that's really been their phrase. the biden administration officials have repeated. but we know putin is someone who thrives on chaos, and unpredictability. and so, i think there are a lot of unknowns going into it and they are waiting to see, still, even if putin is going to show up at a press conference with biden after. and jen psaki said earlier today, we know biden is going to take questions from reporter. they are hoping putin does but it doesn't seem like they have

any kind of a firm commitment from the russian government, yet. >> all right, kaitlan. i don't know if it's the beginning of the day or the end but get some rest. we are going to be watching you until you return. thank you very much. thank you, fareed. >> i don't know, either, honestly. >> all right. thank you, both. i will see you. make sure you watch fareed zakaria gps sunday at 10:00 a.m., 1:00 p.m., right here on cnn. close-door testimony made public. what former-president trump's white house attorney said made him feel perturbed and trapped. that's next. ahhh! get out of here mouse. ahhh! ♪ don't flex your pecs. terminix. - [narrator] as you get ready for what's next, custom gear from custom ink ♪ can help make the most of these moments. we've developed new tools to make it easy for you. custom ink has hundreds of products to help you feel connected. upload your logo or start your design today

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mueller, mid-investigation. now, luckily for donald trump, don mcgahn had enough common sense to sort of blow him off, and hope that this little temper tantrum blew over. but it didn't. he kept coming back to mcgahn saying get it done. and eventually, trump told mcgahn i need you to lie about this and i need you to make a false document about this, don. i don't care how strongly you want to try to defend donald trump on, well, he has constitutional powers as a president. no president has a power to instruct somebody to create a false document that is obstruction of justice. >> okay. and so, now, mcgahn is telling him trump told him, right, you better deny this. i mean, what does this happen? that -- that's -- he is telling him to say something that is false? he is instructing his counsel? yeah. >> yeah. it's the coverup. donald trump is telling his then-white house counsel, i need you to help me cover up. i need you to make up a fake story. and that's why, don, i'm looking down the street at the justice department here. because let's be real. it's taken congress two years to get mcgahn's testimony for a lot of people's faults. it's the fault of donald trump.

it's the fault of bill barr. it's the fault of don mcgahn for dragging their feet. it's the fault of democrats in congress for letting them get dragged out this like this. now, the only entity that can do anything about this to ensure accountability is the justice department. and another thing that happened today is merrick garland testified and he said, essentially, nobody gets treated any better or any worse than anybody else because of who that person is. well, does that principle apply to donald trump? that's my question to merrick garland. >> well, the republican line on this is that gop staffers on the district committee are saying that mcgahn failed to substantiate any democratic allegations or democrat, they say. you know, as they say, allegations of wrongdoing by president trump. i am wondering what you think of that? but if you -- if you have a former president, who is -- who is telling his counsel to lie. and ordering someone -- then, is there any justice in this, for anyone? what is merrick garland doing? >> yeah. i mean, first of all, let's remember who don mcgahn is, here. he's not some democrat. he is the person, donald trump chose to be his white house

counsel. longtime republican. the person who was responsible for shepherding through donald trump's judicial nominations, including his supreme court nominees. so, he is a republican. he always has been. his testimony, today, was consistent with what he told robert mueller. i don't know how you spin that, into no obstruction. or -- or nothing harmful. and, don, you're right. congress, look, they're -- they're done. they have done all they can. i think it took them too long. i think jerry nadler was fairly ineffective in the way he handled this. i think he got slow played. well, it doesn't mean it's over. merrick garland has a difficult job to do. but sometimes, as a prosecutor, you have to do difficult things if they are the also the right thing. >> but are they so -- because we've been -- you know, this has been such a crazy period. is there -- i don't know -- is there intention just to, sort of, to go easy on everyone? to try to bend over backwards to prove that they are not out to get the former administration?

and in doing so, they are missing an opportunity to really restore justice? >> that's the conclusion that i am, now, coming to, don. it's been three months, merrick garland's been in office. he said all the right things. he said i do not represent the president. that's correct. he is the attorney general. he represents the american people. he said no one will get any-better treatment or worse treatment because of who they are. i'm not so sure that's the case. what are they going to do about donald trump? it seems, to me, that merrick garland's approach has been to sort of go along, to get along. try not to make political waves but sometimes when you are bending over backwards like that. trying so hard not to make any political waves, you are also not doing your job as the nation's top prosecutor. >> amen, elie honig. that was great analysis. that's why we have you here. thank you, elie, i appreciate it. a tight race to be new york's democrat -- democratic nominee for mayor. that's heating up. one of the leading candidates is being asked to prove he actually lives in this city. i am going to ask him about it. that's next.

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new york city voters casting ballots this month in the primary election to pick a new mayor. key issues in the race, rising crime, especially hate crimes. getting the city's economy back up and running after the pandemic shutdown. but one, big issue has come up that you probably wouldn't expect. where leading candidate, eric adams, where he lives. cnn's alexandra field has the details for us. >> this is bathroom. and downstairs is where my bed is. >> reporter: democrat eric adams, a leading contender in new york city's mayoral race, insisting he really does live in new york. >> this is our small, humble kitchen. >> reporter: adams, who currently serves as the brooklyn bureau president giving an emotional press conference.

>> this is a -- journey. this is my block. these are my neighbors, even the new ones. i am proud to be ag reporters on a tour of his brooklyn pad after a "politico" piece raised questions about whether other tenants were really living in the apartment. if adams is spending his team at a property, he owns with his partner in new jersey. or if his home is actually his office. in the city building, borough hall. >> it's been over 40 days and i have been crashing out right here. >> reporter: adams touted moving into borough hall back in march of 2020 at the height of the covid pandemic. saying, at the time, the arrangement helped him best manage the crisis besetting new york. but with covid-poz sitivity rat

now below 1% in new york, "politico" reports adams has still been spotted a number of times arriving at borough hall close to midnight and not leaving until early, the next morning. >> at 1:00 in the morning, working until 3:00 to 4:00. with my staffers, who come in because they believe. and then, getting up at 6:30, 7:00, to go to the train stations. it's not a mystery where i am. when i walk through the door, sometimes, after two or three days. just being at borough hall, bumming it. i just feel good to be home. no matter how modest it is, it's my home. >> reporter: the man who wants to be new york city's next mayor, now saying that while he visits his partner in new jersey, he doesn't spend nights there. the former-state senator has focused his campaign on his new york roots. his 22-year career with the nypd, and a tough-on-crime approach. >> we need to stop the gun violence. >> reporter: he is also tough on

other candidates. especially, when it comes to time spent in new york. launching repeated attacks on another mayoral front-runner, andrew yang, who admitted leaving the city during the pandemic. >> so, why should we trust you, now? you may flee, again, during a difficult time. >> reporter: yang, now, firing back with his own questions for adams. like, why would anyone vote for a candidate who can't even be honest about where he lives? and these more pointed questions from progressive candidate, maya wiley. wtf and wtf, again. alexandra field, cnn new york. >> alexandra field, thank you very much for that. i appreciate it. joinging me now, the candidate himself, eric adams. eric, thank you for joining us. i appreciate it. >> thank you, don. it's -- it's great being here. >> let's get to the bottom of this. okay? for -- for the record, do you live in new york city? >> yes, i do. i live in bedsty.

i have a beautiful block and it wasn't always that way, don. when i moved there, it was filled with crime and uncertainty and no one wanted to be there. but those long-standing neighbors who are on that block and we made it what it is today. and i am just really proud of the community, and how we stick together. and so, yes, let's be very clear. i'm a new yorker, live in brooklyn, new york. and i live in a beautiful, little, small, modest building on the block. >> do you understand, why, eric, this is being questioned? because there have been discrepancies in your official paperwork, as well. >> no, i don't understand why it's being questioned. particularly, don, let me tell you. many of my opponents. they have been following me around, for months. i've noticed that. they are my most credible messengers. they know where i am, and they know where i am, every day. and throughout the last, you know, four-to-five months. and so, they should be leading the charge and the voice to be state that eric is -- he's a new yorker.

he's a brooklynite and he lives on lafayette place. >> so, all right. andrew yang. you know andrew yang, right? we know him here at cnn. we know him as a presidential candidate. he is calling on you to release your ez-pass records to prove that you don't live outside of the city or in new jersey. are you going to do that? >> yes, of course. transparency is the key. don, you know, he can pick up a copy. he can come to brooklyn hall and get a copy, tomorrow. done. i would love that. it would, already, show exactly where i am. and again, you know, my -- my, you know, friends, neighbors, and colleagues. they know where i am. i'm a brooklynite. and i am proud of being a brooklynite, so yes. >> all right. you are going to release your ez-pass records. you say yes, correct? >> yes, i am. right away. >> all right. so you were a police officer for 22 years, eric, and i just want to talk to you about what you can do to combat crime. you know, look. i live here. i know that people are scared. i see what's happening, on the

streets. i'm in the city, every single day. in may, overall crime went up 22%, compared to last year. shootings are up, eric, 73%. how are you going to turn this around? that's going to be a big turnaround. >> well, more than a police officer, don. when an individual looks at my record, they know that i was arrested as a little child. 15 years old. i was beat by police officers. and i went into law enforcement because civil-rights leaders asked me to go in, and fight from within. and i did just that. 22 years, fighting on behalf of reform and safety, because during that time, i lost a good friend to gun violence due to the crack wars of the early '80s. and so, what we must do. we must have approach that's intervention and prevention. all of my colleagues. they are talking about prevention. long-term plans of what we have to do. but i am talking about intervention. what are we going to do, right now, to stop 10-year-old boys

from being shot and rockaway? 3-year-old children being shot in times square. we need to go after guns. illegal handguns are really just proliferating our streets, saturating our streets. we must focus on gang violence. i speak with gang leaders to try to talk them out. but those who refuse to put down their guns and stop the violence. we have to go after them. and then, we must change the ecosystem of public safety. police may have a role. but there are other components to that, and that's the approach i'm going to take. i'm going to put in place a plain-clothes anti-gun unit with precision policing so we can identify those known shooters. >> let's -- i just want to let people know around the country what we are dealing with here, in new york city. and there are other, major cities dealing with it, as well. three out of four serious crimes in brooklyn are going unsolved, right now, according to nypd's latest report. that is -- and you are the brooklyn borough president.

also, hate crime rates, i want to talk about that. we saw this last week. just last week. this -- this attack on an asian woman from a violent criminal with 17-prior arrests. and that is just one example. we see this happening all the -- all the time, eric. hate crimes for asians are up 335%. for black people, 80%. jewish people, 37%. and there has been a 188% increase in hate crimes -- at people's sexual orientation. listen. i know people who have had to, quite honestly, move out of harlem, where i live. where i lived. because of random attacks on people. they have moved to other neighborhoods that they deem more safe here, in the city. why do you think there's more hate in the city, right now? and how do you stop that? that -- i mean, that is -- there's got to be some fundamental changes here.

>> so true, don. and, you know, i'm glad you pointed out because something that's often ignored. the hate crimes against lgbtq plus community is, often, ignored. and you're right. i spoke with the dad of joseph, a young-jewish child who was stopped, maced, and assaulted in times square. and i spoke with his dad. and then, went to visit many of the synagogues. and i -- i have communicated with many of the african-american and the asian community because it is -- this is going to impact our economic recovery. we fail, sometimes, to understand that the prerequisite to prosperity is public safety and justice. that's how economic stimulus package. no tourist is going to come here in our multibillion-dollar industry if they don't feel safe. and that's the same. no company will allow their employees to come back if they can't ride the subway system, in a safe way. and so, it's drilling in on those hate crimes that you are talking about. so there's three things we must

do. number one, we need to really have a look at the new reform laws and include hate crimes as a crime that you can place bail on. individuals are committing hate crimes. coming out the next day. and then, boasting about it. saying i'll do it, again. that's unacceptable. two, we need to utilize technology. many of the cases that we make an apprehension and arrest, it takes place -- those cases -- those arrests take place because of the technology with video surveillance. three, we need to partner with the district attorneys. we can't decrease the crime or plea bargain the crime of hate crime. we need to charge them with the crime and get the most severe penalty because of that. and lastly, i think, it's important, that we have a long-term plan. i have something called breaking bread, building bonds. a hundred dinners throughout the city, with people who come together. ten people at each dinner. talking to each other. we are in a segregated city. and we need to be intentional in

our schools, as well. >> eric, i >> eric, i understand that. i had the former police commissioner bill bratton on last night. he said that the reforms that were tried here under the current administration, it was too much. they tried to do too much at once. bail reform. letting violent offenders out. letting people who have a history of mental illness out. there is a statement for people. there needs to be a place for those people. you see those people attacking people on the subway. i live here with my fiance. i'll afraid to have him ride the subway. fortunately, i live close to work where i don't have to. i'm afraid he is out there in the streets every day and possibly could fall victim to the crime. people i know who have lived here for years, for decades, are walking around, looking over their shoulders every single day, eric. i understand what you say. do you think that too much was done? do you think the current administration has been too lenient? are you going to be tougher on crime? that's what new york city needs right now. not someone who apologizes for crime. someone who listens to people

who want to go soft on crime. who don't want violent offenders locked up. we need a mayor who will be tough on crime and make the city safe. if we cannot be safe living here, the people can't live here. we may as well live somewhere else. >> don, listen, i'm not the quiet don. i wrote the song. all of my current candidates were afraid to talk about we have to be safe. andrew yang did not come out and talk about gun violence until there was a shooting blocks from his home. others talk about the long term plan. yes, i'm a believer in prevention and long-term plans. but we need to deal with intervention. what are we doing right now? violent offenders without being heavy handed and go after those nonviolent offenders. that is the mistake we made in the past. let's go after those shooters.

let's go after those hate crime individuals. let's go after the violent offender, and that is the type of mayor i'm going to be, but at the same time i'm going to put in place measures to prevent crime, something as simple as dyslexia screening. 30% of our inmates in prison are dys dyslexic. let's stop that. >> i've got to go. i'm getting in trouble because i went longer. but we'll see. it will be tough on crime. he has a plan on place and he will replace his easy pass records where he lives. eric adams, candidate for mayor. >> thank you. >> in new york city. thank you, sir. i appreciate it. we'll be right back. oh! don't burn down the duplex. terminix.

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