an opportunity to be with young kids who are ambitious and striving to be their best? it's been a joy. >> it certainly has been, and it's been a joy watching you over these years, as well. thank you, thank you so much for all you have done. we'll stay in close coach. to our viewers, thank you very much to have wfor watching. erin burnett "outfront" starts right now. "outfront" next, conspiracy callout. a doctor testifying to lawmakers that the covid vaccine can make a person magnetic. this is as vaccination rates plummet. plus, breaking news. a bipartisan group of senators say they have a deal on infrastructure. okay, that's great. but they've got to have the votes overall to get it passed. do they have them? and trump's grip on the republican party is so strong that he's turned mar-a-lago into the center of the gop universe.

new details ahead. let's go "outfront." good 'ing. i'm erin burnett. "outfront" tonight, watch out for the wing nuts. as the vaccination rate in the united states plummets, officials are fighting dangerous and absurd conspiracy theorys about vaccines. the misinformation hitting a fever pace at a critical time, when the spread of the delta variant is getting worse in the united states. >> this variant is even more transmissible than the uk variant, which was more transmissible than the version of the virus we were dealing with last year. there's also some concern that it may be more dangerous, as well. it's yet another reason to get vaccinated quickly. before those who are unvaccinated, they are increasingly at risk, as more and more variabilities develop. >> more transmissible, of course, will mean more people will die if they're not vaccinated. the delta variant accounts for 6% of sequenced cases in the united states, according to dr. fauci at the nih.

that was a similar tipping point for the same variant in the uk, okay? so they hit 6%, what are we going to do? guess what? now that variant is responsible for 91% of new cases in the uk. that's what more traps misible means. it is spreading so fast there, officials may not ease more restrictions as planned in 11 days. so there goes freedom day. that is why health officials in the united states are trying to stop the decline of the rate of people getting vaccinated. but this message is facing stiff head winds because of, frankly, i don't know how this stuff even happens, that somebody who says these things would be testifying, but this is what you're about to hear. a doctor called to testify by ohio state republicans trying to pass a bill, that includes blocking employers from mandating vaccinations and banning requirements that unvaccinated people wear masks.

here is dr. sherry tentenney. >> i'm sure you're seen the people that get vaccinated and now they're magnetized. we think there's a metal piece to that. >> you just heard that right. that just happened. that was testimony, called by people who are elected to serve in a state government. that was a doctor, from a state where less than half the population is vaccinated. testifying that getting the vaccine turns you magnetic. and it did not take long for others to echo that testimony. here is a nurse at that very same hearing. >> yes, vaccines do harm people. by the way, so i just found out something when i was on lunch and i want to show it to you. you were talking about dr. tenpenny's testimony about magnetic vaccine crystals. i have a key and a bobby pin here. explain to me why the key sticks to me.

it sticks to my neck, too. so if somebody can explain this, it would be great. any questions? >> okay. so you saw this for yourself. the cdc actually had to knock down this on the website. this is like people can say hey, the sky is green, and, you know, i have to like somehow prove it isn't green. that's the world we're living in now. can receiving a covid-19 vaccine cause you to be magnet snik that got put on the cdc website. the answer, no. that is not the only thing said in that hearing today. >> to be clear, the symptoms that you're talking about were reports that you're getting from people who weren't vaccinated, but who had been around others who --

>> that's correct. lots of kids now getting bloody noses and bloody eyes, being around teachers that have been injected. and they're now starting to actually look at why is that? and that's why the concept of something is being transmitted. they're getting bleeding, they're getting strokes, heart attacks. i have a really good friend whose mother got a shot because she wanted to go to a nephew's wedding. the dad, her father, did not get it. two weeks later the father had a stroke. these are -- there's thousands of these reports. >> because she got a vaccine? okay, that was democratic state representative beth liston who was questioning dr. tenpenny. i'm going to speak to that lawmaker in a moment. but look, you hesitate to people up and make them look foolish, but they said these things. it's not okay. it's wrong. it's made up. it's completely inaccurate.

and people are believing it. it's causing people to be hesitant about getting vaccines. they're not isolated incidents either. these are being spread like wildfire thanks to social media. listen to what our reporter has heard from a vaccine skeptic. >> the vaccine goes into a child she'll just die. >> if your daughter took the vaccine, you were told that she might die? >> that should die, not might, would. >> okay. and also these conspiracy theorys are running rampant among some white evangelical christians. >> are you going to get the vaccine? >> no. it starts going into conspiracy type stuff, but i do believe it's bill gates and them trying to kill us. >> this has real consequences, right? i mean, and it comes on the same day that joe biden is now vowing to supply 500 million doses of

vaccines to countries that are desperate for these vaccines. they have people dying, they would do anything to get the vaccines. yet in the united states you have people saying things like you just heard, you know, worried about turning into magnets instead of getting a vaccine. jeremy diamond is o"outfront" a the white house. who are your sources telling you about the thinking on this dangerous spread of misinformation? that hearing we said, i wasn't pulling something from the corner of the internet, which is very powerful on its own. that was a hearing that happened in ohio. i mean, somewhat are they going to do about it? >> reporter: listen, erin, there's no doubt that this white house is and has long been concerned about the spread of misinformation around the coronavirus vaccine. two senior administration officials who i spoke with today told me that vaccine hesitancy and misinformation about the coronavirus vaccines are serious issues that they are working to confront. one of the officials told me that the issue of misinformation

is becoming more acute, and that's because the pool of unvaccinated people who are willing and eager to get those shots is rapidly, rapidly shrinking. so they are coming face to face with the rest of the people who are still unvaccinated, who are mostly the folks who believe some of this misinformation or for one reason or another are refusing to get the vaccine at this point. the white house is calling this month a month of action to confront this, and that's why we're going to see the vice president kamala harris to head out with the first lady on a tour through some of these southern and midwest states that have been hardest hit by this vaccine misinformation, and also by these low rates of vaccination. i will say, the white house isn't focused on combatting individual pieces of misinformation. they're not going to repbuilt this ohio hearing word for word. they're going to empower folks entrusted within their communities, doctors or members of the clergy or other folks,

and arm them with the correct information. they are hoping that over time, this will help to get rid of some of that misinformation, and look, if you look at the data here, we are not on track to hit that 70% goal of partiality vaccinated people by july fourth. the white house doesn't say they're concerned about that, but they are saying they're going to continue to work to hit that 70% whether by july fourth or later. >> jeremy, thank you very much. i want to go "outfront" to the ohio state representative that you just saw questioning the anti-vaccination doctor during that statehouse hearing. i appreciate your time, representative. so what was going through your mind as you were listening to dr. tenpenny's answers? you were there, able to see her, to kind of read her body language, her eyes. what were you seeing and thinking? >> well, thanks for having me here, erin. this is such an important topic.

that was quite a moment the other day. we were talking about vaccines, but for me, i was really happy that she was showing people how absurd her perspective was. i had spent some time studying her and i knew really what she thought. and i was worried that within the hearing her perspective would come off as credible. i knew if i asked a few questions and poked a little further that she would expand and give you the conspiracy theorys that you're hearing and give you the pseudo science that is so harmful. because as you said, that misinformation can be really dangerous in our communities. so i was glad that people could see what was beneath her testimony so that others didn't fall prey to the misinformation. >> and i guess my question is, you know, representative, do you feel you were successful in that? general

jennifer gross, your republican colleague, said what an honor to have her there. she wrote an op-ed that this is legitimate. that when someone got a vaccine shot and their spouse has a stroke two weeks later that it's linked. are you confident that people walked away know thing is complete craziness? >> i'm confident that most people walked away knowing this was complete craziness. i think you've seen the outpouring across the country on the internet showing they're not magnetized and laughing at the idea. i think that's helpful, because all of a sudden it doesn't seem scary or credible. it seems like a far-out-there conspiracy theory that would never balance the body of scientific knowledge that says vaccines are safe. so did we convince everybody? no. there's still a lot of work to do. there's still a lot of people we

need to talk to and have trusted one on one conversations with. but i do think that having it out there and pointing out as we're doing today is really helpful overall. >> let me ask you, obviously you're doing your job as a lawmaker, but you're a doctor and hopefully people can trust and understand you, people like me or others. but the hearing that all this happened in relation to was a bill that, in part, would not allow employers, you know, to require vaccinations. so as a doctor, why are you against this right now? >> so the bill that we were hearing is really dangerous. it's dangerous to people in ohio. it goes beyond just coronavirus and covid vaccines, and puts into question all of our public health vaccination programs. it makes it so no one can even ask if you're vaccinated. we're talking schools and universities, businesses,

community centers. they're not able to find that information that can help make sure that they're taking care of their employees and students in a way that keeps them safe. so it really undermines public health, and unfortunately, we're seeing bills like this in ohio and across the country, which i think is going to lead to outbreaks of disease and is really dangerous. so the bill in ohio is really extreme. i'm happily fighting against it so people understand how harmful it will be for the state. >> doctor liston, thank you very much. i appreciate your time. i want to go to dr. jonathan reiner who served at the white house under president george bush. you hear her laying all of this house as a representative of her state. i find it amazing that every time something like this happens, a hearing like this, i learn something new. meaning i learn wow, now you're saying that a bloody nose at school is because a teacher got

vaccinated. things make jaws drop on the floor. but i'm not the targeted audience, and this misinformation and conspiracy business is being spread across the country. how dangerous is it, dr. reiner? >> it's really dangerous. there are right now 13 states, soon to be 16 states in this country with over 70% of adults who received at least one shot. but there are 15 states where that percentage is less than 55%, spread through the south and midwest, and that is the target for this disinformation. you know, it's tempting to look at dr. tenpenny and just sort of laugh at her wackiness, but she is a very serious vaccine disinformation propagandist. she's talked about globalists. the audience listening to her

isn't getting vaccinated. >> right. you talk about these states. just in a couple of states in the south. the masks are coming off everywhere, and they're off in close quarters and the restaurants are full and the doors are shut. so in that context, when you hear dr. murphy warning about the delta variant, when it was 6% in the uk, now it's 91% of new cases in the uk. so what happens if you don't get close to herd immunity as this new variant is spreading? >> right. so let's look at alabama, mississippi, tennessee, louisiana, where only 40% of the population is fully vaccinated. and there isn't a lot of momentum to vaccinate a lot more. so while large swaths thof country have very high rates of vaccination and will achieve some level of community

immunity, large parts of the south and midwest will not. and new delta variant is much more transmissible, and we are going to see in these largely unvaccinated parts of the country, a resurgence of this virus, a resurgence of hospitalizations and a resurgence of deaths. we've already seen cases start to rise, as you said, at the outset in the uk. it will happen again in parts of the south and southwest, unless we get our act together and vaccinate more people. >> dr. reiner, thank you. >> my pleasure. and next, breaking news. new hope tonight for biden's agenda. a bipartisan deal on infrastructure has just been announced. but that's just between, you know, the group, the little group. what about the overall, the vote? will it pass? plus, joe biden about to face off with vladamir putin. will he send a real and painful message and alexei navalny? and andrew brown, jr., the black

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a senior biden administration official saying the white house believes the deal is worth exploring. that's a significant thing to say. not what the progressives want to hear, but significant the white house would consider it. manu is "outfront." this is significant that he can get ten on board, including people like manchin. but no tax increases, that's not something a lot of democrats want to hear. what are you learning? >> we're getting a general sense of what is in this agreement between ten senators, five on each side. but a lot of details sill need to be sorted out. the top line agreement, they're talking about $947 billion over five years. that's how much it would cost. $578 billion is new spending. over an eight-year time frame, that would be a $1.2 trillion. there would be no tax increases. how is this paid for? that is the ultimate question. what we're hearing is that already enacted covid relief

money would be redirected to help pay for this. also, the gas tax, that would be increased. creating an infrastructure bank to dealing with loans provided through state projects. they're saying they won't do what the white house had called for here, which is to raise the corporate tax ans among high income earners. so that is not in this agreement. so ultimately, the details here matter, but the outlines are significant because two sides have got an agreement, but can they sell it to their respective caucuses here? that's the big question. >> that is the big question, because you talk about democrats, they want a corporate tax increase, they said no to a gas tax increase. the devil is in the details. but you spoke to some democratic senators that had been skeptical

that this group could come to an agreement. here's what they told you. >> i think it's been made clear those negotiators that we're rooting them on, but there's no guarantee that you can get 50 democratic votes for the package they produce. >> i think it's time to pull the plug now and take action promptly, robustly. >> so what is the likely this deal gets the support it needs from democrats in the senate? >> it's a real question here. the white house, if it wants to support this, and senate democratic leaders, if they want to support it, they'll have to convince members on the left that their priorities are almost certainly going to be left out of this bipartisan deal, would get on to a second package. the next package, they're going to try to move along party lines through a budget process that is subject to a fill buster in a senate. they can pass that with 50 democratic votes, not 60. but they need to get all 50

democrats in line behind that approach. so they'll have to tell their members, okay, if you don't hold your fire on this, support this package, because the next time you will be okay, we'll take care of you next time. so there will be a lot of salesmanship to go here, but erin, as you mentioned, a lot of the details that we're just learning about already is facing resistance, how it's paid for, namely redirecting that covid relief money. so we'll see if the white house goes along with that. because in the past, they have said no to that approach, erin. >> manu, thank you very much. and senator kirsten sinema is part of that bipartisan group that came to an agreement on the infrastructure deal. but she's also far from a reliable backer of biden's agenda. and some of her constituents back home say she might as well be a republican. kyung lah is "outfront." >> reporter: in triple digit phoenix heat -- >> we are sending a petition out to her office. >> reporter: progressives are

pushing a mess save to kirsten sinema. >> to force her to do something for us. >> reporter: the frustration among the democratic base is palpable. >> talking about she's being bipartisan with people who are delusional. these people are trying to take our rights. >> reporter: must like senator manchin, senator has defined herself as an unapologetic moderate, defending th filibust and x, this is a false choice. >> reporter: that sparked protests in her home state. >> it's time to end the what? >> filibuster! >> reporter: but it was this vote, the $15 an hour minimum wage that lucha calls a detrayal. she went door to door to elect democrats in 2018. >> to see her courtesy and dance and walk away so flippantly, she

was sending that message to millions of americans and to arizona that she doesn't care. >> reporter: as criticism erupted at home, sinema posted this picture on instagram. >> to see a ring that told the american people to "f" off, her message to them was clear from her ring. >> reporter: lucha says it's now personal. and want a democratic primary chal challenger. >> we already have a republican in that seat. >> reporter: you view her as a republican? >> absolutely. >> reporter: other progressives may be unhappy, but sinema has voted with joe biden from the covid relief bill to liberal cabinet members. that's part of the ballot sinema may be eyeing in 2024. >> for a state that's not blue, we just barely voted for biden. >> reporter: julie calls herself a realistic democrat, who says

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tonight, the white house promising that joe biden will deliver a "direct and very candid message to russian president vladamir putin" at their first face moye face. >> this is his forte. >> kaitlan collins is "outfront" with the president. you reported that there was internal disagreement over whether a meeting with putin should happen. is the white house on the same page now with what's going on?

>> reporter: i think it's inevitable. the meeting is going to happen in a few days. the white house says that is despite what we saw happen with that russian court in the last 24 hours when they labeled those two groups linked to the political prisoner alexei navalny as extremist groups. the white house says despite the differences between the united states and russia, that meeting is still going to happen. but erin, they're instead framing it as because of those differences. and i think you can see that they are preparing for this to potentially be an intense meeting with the press secretary was using earlier today to talk about it, seeing it is going to be straightforward and candid. often when you see those words and official readouts of white house conversations with the president and other world leaders, it means it was a blunt and not exactly warm conversation. and so i think that's what they're preparing for. i think obviously with the russian president interacting with the u.s. president, there are always a lot of unknowns,

and it's still not clear if they're going to have a press conference afterward like when we saw with president trump and vladamir putin in helsinki. and the former president is putting out a stunning statement, essentially repeating his embrace of putin at that summit, embracing him, of course, over u.s. intelligence. instead framing it as siding with putin over obama officials, even though it was the president's own intelligence officials at the time that said yes, they did believe interfered in the election. but i think what's so stunning about this statement from trump tonight, it's essentially trying to sabotage this meeting between biden and putin and sewing discord days ahead of it. to do it with a u.s. president, your predecessor, when you see former presidents kind of go into the background, remain quiet while someone else takes over, it is still notable. but the white house says yes, they are moving ahead with this

meeting. >> kaitlan, thank you very much. biden saying when he sits down with putin he's going to "let him know what i want him to know." okay, we understand as kaitlan is describing what is code for. but will it come with the tough talk we've heard from biden recently? >> so you know vladamir putin, you think he's a killer? >> uh-huh. i do. >> no one -- no president has ever talked about putin hike that while in office. so that raises questions about what will happen here. and one of the biggest questions is the case of alexei navalny, the jailed putin correct, whose organizations were just shut down and banned from operating by a russian court deemed extremist. "outfront" now, a close friend of navalny, who has taken over his anti-corruption organization that just got banned. vladamir, i appreciate you coming back on.

thank you for san diego up so late. what message does biden need to deliver, what does he need to say, what can he say to putin regarding navalny? >> well, i think first of all, we need to be realistic. the u.s. and russia have a lot of topics on the agenda. it's security issues, it's anti-terrorist fight, arms control, and of course, it's also navalny and political repression in russia. it's really difficult to imagine what those magic words that biden can say to putin to ensure freedom of navalny. but i'll give him the benefit of the doubt. >> so a state department condemned the russian court decision saying navalny's organizations are extremist and to ban them. but the overall silence, the relative silence around this case has been striking here. when he came back to russia after he was poisoned, navalny

gets imprisoned in a penal colony, he's in a hunger strike, his health desire desire -- deteriorates. and the u.s. has said very little about it. how up acceptable is this to you? >> the position of u.s. administration has been consistent in that they condemned the poisoning and illegal imprisonment of navalny. and to me, this rhetoric is . i don't think there's something the u.s. can use in this case to ensure that russia frees navalny, and moreover, miraculously turns the course and becomes more tolerant of political dissent. i think we need to live in the real world.

>> okay. in the real world, what does a meeting like this accomplish? what could biden do that would put putin on notice or cow putin? >> i think it's still important that the leaders of nuclear countries talk to each other. i think there's a little call for any grand agreement or at least it seems like it from, you know, from outside. biden's rhetoric has been really belligerent against putin. let's see what this brings. >> vladamir, i appreciate your time and i thank you. next, a state autopsy confirms that andrew brown, jr. was shot in the back of the head by a deputy. the shooting the district attorney says is justified. he says brown was using his car as a deadly weapon. brown family attorney is next. plus, the rise of death

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tonight, new autopsy results confirming andrew brown, jr. died from a gunshot would wound to the back of his head. he was shot and killed in elizabeth city, north carolina when they were attempting to serve warrants to brown. this comes after the district attorney declines to bring cha charges -- you might find this video disturbing. >> reporter: seven weeks after andrew brown, jr. was shot and killed by deputies in elizabeth city, north carolina, a state autopsy confirms brown's manner of death was homicide and he died of a gunshot wound to the back of the head. this matches the result of a private autopsy commissioned by brown's family and their attorneys. the report also lists another non-fatal gunshot wound to the right arm, and the autopsy said

four shots. the toxicology reports showed he had meth amphetamine in his system. this comes weeks after protestors demanldzed transparency and after brown was laid to rest in early may. >> it's crazy what's going on right now. i loved my daddy to death. but like my brother said, he's not here. but he's here, though. we're going to get justice behind this. >> reporter: less than one minute of body camera footage has ever been shown to the public. a warning this video is graphic, as deputies arrived and yelling at brown to stop. they were there the morning of april 21st to execute warrants related to felony drug charges. the video was shown during a press conference in may when

district attorney andrew womble announced no charges would be filed. >> mr. brown's death, while tragic, was justified because mr. brown's actions caused three deputies to reasonably believe it was necessary to use deadly force to protect themselves and others. >> reporter: he said brown had driven recklessly at the officers while trying to flee arrests. but attorneys for brown's family says he was executed. >> it was a kill shot to the back of the head. >> reporter: after the announcement of two charges, two of the three deputies who fired the shots returned to work. the third deputy intends to resign. brown's oldest son says he just wants the killings at the hands of law enforcement to stop. >> i just wish he was here with us. as much as i'm going to wish and wish and wish all day, it's not going to happen. i love you, pops.

>> "outfront" now, the brown family's attorney. chantel, i appreciate your time. the autopsy report says andrew brown, jr. died of a gunshot wound to the back of the head. does this -- we're just looking at a little snippet of the video, but does this validate your case that he was killed while driving away from officers? >> yes, this does validate what we said earlier. it aligns with the fact that he was trying to get away from the police officers when he was shot in the back of the head, and that is what ultimately caused his death. >> when district attorney andrew womble announced he was not going to pursue charges against the three deputies that fired at brown, he said that brown posed a threat to the deputies, with his car. and then he said, and i quote him, i don't care what direction

you're going, and neither do our courts. basically implying at the moment he was shot, it doesn't matter whether he was going forwards or backwards, that's not relevant. what do you say to that? >> he stated in his press conference that he didn't care if they were standing still, that brown possibly -- he did say brown posed a threat to the officers. that is disturbing, because at the point where the officers were firing at brown, i see nothing from the video that we've been able to see where he was a threat at that time. he was driving away from the officers, and that is how he was shot in the back of the head. that aligns with the information we had, and he was also shot in the arm and the bullet went from back to front. again, a shot in the back as he was driving away. at that point, he was no longer a threat when he was driving away. >> so the officers, obviously they declined to press charges

against them, and two of the three deputies who shot at brown are back at work. two back at scheduled to retire. the sheriff's department says they were disciplined and retrained. have you been given any information what that means? >> we've been given limited details from anyone, even the family members say they didn't have notice of the press conference that womble held, they didn't have any heads up or any information. so we are very limited in what the sheriff's and d.a.'s office is providing to the family. >> what are your next steps? it seems like there's so much you haven't been told or seen, what are your next steps now that you have this new information from the autopsy tonight, chantel? >> we're still seeking accountability. that has been the goal from day one, from april 21st. we have not received that transparency. we will be moving forward

federally -- considering a federal lawsuit. so that will be the next step. like i said, there's still a problem with transparency here. we're still trying to see all of the facts. we want everything out. we want all the information, everything they have seen, we would like to give that to the family so they can start processing what happened to their loved one. >> all right. chantel, thank you very much. i appreciate your time. >> thank you. and "outfront" next, the area around trump's mar-a-lago now becoming the new nerve center for the republican party. a new report ahead. he threatened to hunt down an attorney representing the whistleblower who sparked trump's first impeachment trial. and tonight, a judge is sending that man to prison. you get a month for $5.end, so i'm bringing everyone within 12 degrees of me. bam, 12 months of $5 wireless. visible. wireless that gets better with friends.

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homes in florida who live within minutes of trump's collub. josh, thanks so much. your reporting is compelling here and fascinating. we have seen republican after republican go to mar-a-lago to meet with trump, to get the photo op. kevin mccarthy, ted cruz, to name a few. everyone goes. rick scott. we see them. tell me more about how south florida, which you call the trump coast, has turned into the center of gop politics. >> there was an open question after the january 6 riots about what trump's post-presidency would look like, would he maintain his grip or fade away? it's clear over the last several months that trump grip on the republican party is stronger than ever. i went down to florida to investigate why that was. what i found was that instead of

moving beyond trump, a lot of the republican party has moved down to florida with him. you mentioned the family members. a lot of fox news personalities bought homes around mar-a-lago. lots of republican consultants and donors spend time down there because in south florida, palm beach in particular, it's a new center of gravity. trump is the party's greatest draw. he managed to hold onto power in a way that previous presidents like carter and george h.w. bush who were branded losers were not able to do. >> you liken it to napoleon. his land in exile. you actually -- some of this we see from the videos we get. but you were able to put facts on it. you report trump shows up at almost any event that happens at mar-a-lago, including memorial services. he has got engagement photos. he loves to be a wedding crasher. he goes to these things and

never misses a chance to talk about the election at other people's parties. here are a few examples. [ applause ] >> they said, you got 75 million votes. is over. you saw what happened. let's see what they find. i wouldn't be surprised if they found thousands and thousands of and thousands of votes. this was a rigged election. >> your reporting, josh, shows that this is -- he has created an incredibly tiny bubble but one that really feeds what he needs, his ego. >> that's exactly right. he lives in this surreal bubble where he is worshipped and validated by everyone he comes into contact with. he is cut off from the outside world. he is not on twitter, facebook.

he doesn't do cnn. he kind of lives in this insular world where all of the myths and conspiracies are being perpetuated. basically, every component of the republican party from activists to donors to staffers to politicians, as you men mentioned, have come to terms with this for their own reasons. they are trying to boost trump up. although, quite a few of them privately are worried about what happens if he runs for president again. >> do they really believe in him? are these kind of -- they are sucking off the whole thing or are they believers? >> it's more the former than the latter. if you look at some of the staffers i talked to down there, unlike previous administrations, they can't go get high-powered jobs at google or uber or amazon, especially not after the january 6 insurrection. a lot of them have fallen back on the trump credential and

started groups to protect the vote, stop people from voting, a lot of the donors who aren't happy about trump decided -- i talked to some that decide republicans can't win back the house if they don't draw out trump's voters. they are biting their tongue. allows him to have a high-profile role. nobody knows how to get rid of him. >> the bottom line seems to be that he is actually not the preferred candidate for 2024. who is? >> that was a shocker to me. a lot of people down there like ron desantis. he is popular with democrats down there. florida is seen by a lot of people as a covid success story. the center of the party has moved down there. even some of the biggest trump activists are now out there holding rallies for desantis. a lot of people like him as a prospect in 2024. >> interesting how trump will see that. one thing to support him and

another to have him slay you. thanks very much, josh. great reporting. thank you. >> thank you. tonight, a clear warning amid an alarming rise in death threats. death threats for anything people say. threats you heard officials who stood up to trump talk about repeatedly. >> person said, enjoy your last birthday cake. >> what's the most troubling is when threats came into my wife's cellphone. >> these threats coming in to republicans all over the place. these threats have consequences. a 54-year-old man from michigan was sentenced to one year and one day in prison for threatening a lawyer for the whistle-blower behind trump's first impeachment trial. the threat read, we will hunt you down and bleed you out like the pigs you are. we have nothing but time and you are running out of it. keep looking over your shoulder. the judge saying he could not ignore the stark and brutal

nature of the threat. we hope this sends a message to others sending those threats out there that those words have consequences. thank you for joining us. don't forget, watch "out front" on cnn go. "ac 360" starts now. two big stories breaking tonight. the question of kids and covid vaccines. namely, whether to grant emergency use authorization for children under 12. that's what an fda panel is discussing. today, the talk was contentious. one panel member is counseling caution. he joins us tonight along with our own dr. sanjay gupta. the other story is a deal on infrastructure and what to make of it. $578 billion in new money over spending and no tax hike to pay for it.