you may have noticed lately that the gop is working overtime to make the lives of trans people than their lives already are. the gop wants to kick trans people out of bathrooms, sports, the military, doctor's offices. >> anti-transgender health care. >> and trans women especially are under threat at all times. >> was shot and killed saturday morning. >> and then those of us who know all that's awful to call trans people brave for putting up with it. trans people don't want to have to be brave. they just want to be. this week we are talking to black trans women in dallas, texas about trying to just be.

♪ i'm back in dallas, y'all. yeah! while we often think about the black trans community being in big cities like l.a. and new york, we need to see that black trans folks are everywhere, even in a state like texas where 70% of the state identifies at christian. sadly, that creates an environment where l kbrks btq plus rights are constantly under attack. that's why it is important to be here in dallas because despite everything the black trans community is out, proud and insisting on living their best lives, whether you like it or not.

>> so here is the word. ezekiel 37:1-14. the hand of the lord brought me out the spirit of the lord and sat me down in the midst of the valley. and in that valley was full of dry bones. listen to what they said. our bones are dry. our hope is lost. and we ourselves are cutoff. goodness gracious. don't i know something about that. as a woman of trans experience, don't i know something about that. jesus. >> preach! preach! >> i was reared in a very spiritual household. my dad was a bishop, my mother was a pastor. all i knew was church. and i grew up in a pent kosal

background. we went to church seven days a week. as a preacher's kid, you are going to do something in a church. so 12 years old, i felt the call to minister. oh, but when i was 16, the scriptures looked different. even, you know, at that young age. and then my life was blessed to basically live outside the norm. >> this is the bible belt. >> yeah. >> i don't know if this is the buckle of the bible belt, but it's pretty close. you know, home of the mega church. >> yeah. >> we say pentacostal. that is one of the fiery briem stone. >> yeah, yeah. >> can i say hell in a church? >> what the hell. >> you are going to hell. if you don't live like this, you are going to hell. >> yeah. and i was 16. you know, i was a child. you know, being in a strict household, parents very well known. but, yet, that was a decision that i could not walk away from.

it was life or death. and, so, by the time 16 came, i wake up, as my mother would say, and now she has a daughter. >> and how did your family respond? >> oh. it was a challenge, you know. they didn't know what to do. of course at this time, this was 24 years ago, almost 25. there was no terminology. so they used to mix, you know, gender identity with sexual orientation. so, you know, it was always about, you know, i'm running around being gay. so it was very difficult for me to even advocate, to educate my parents. so i had to withstand, you know, the rejection. i had to withstand, you know, if i don't get my life right, you know, you are going to hell. you know, god didn't make adam and steve. he made adam and eve. and i'm like god made everyone. i don't understand that context that you are putting. >> you know, a lot of the churches here in dallas, around the south, around the country

have a version of christianity that is hetero-normative. and then you step in there and preach. does it always go well? is it ever a challenge? >> so at the beginning, it was a major challenge. i will say that i am very church trained, okay? >> oh, i can feel that. you speak the language fluently. >> yeah. so when i show up and i walk in, by the time i do the drop mic, it's like, when are you coming back? i'll be glad to come back because there are some people that want to learn. they want to take a closer look at that book. i don't believe the scripture was there to keep interpreting them to be the same. it allows us to be corrective. it allows us to be encouraged. it allows us to grow. >> you just invoked the bells. >> wow.

>> you summoned up the holy ghost. >> i can take you two ways. thank you, lord, for the confirmation or, oh, no, we're not going to have this conversation. this is god's doing. i'm not going to have the conversation that god made a mistake. i want them to understand that god intended for them to be here in existence. that's why they were created. they were created for purpose. the other piece is those looking inside in that we're trying to recruit as allies, love your neighbor as yourself. >> i'm pretty sure that's in the bible somewhere. >> that is in the bible. >> it doesn't say your -- >> no, no. there was no terminology like that there. >> no. it just said your neighbor. whatever is next door. yeah. in their fully realized god. >> the key to god will be diverse. it is important for us to accept that and let us move on

together. >> she got you good again. the bells never ring when i'm talking. i must not be saying good stuff. i'm trying to say some good stuff. >> it's kind of crazy to me that we live in a world that privileges -- folks based on how much they fit in. sometimes you are not supposed to fit in. sometimes you were supposed to be that big glittery red thumb that's just like, hey, y'all are boring. you know? >> this is one place you can come up here any way you want to. we not going to judge you. >> they created house of rebirth for black trans women who either don't have a home or can't go back home. they offer everything from career training, therapy and

study groups in a place that is part clubhouse, part nightclub and part sanctuary. >> we want to be able to give everything that we know nobody else giving. >> i notice in here it is filled with clothes. and not just like serviceable clothes, like beautiful clothes. clothes to make you feel better and feel like you can go out into the world. >> and, like, clothes are such a big part of a person's i think transition, too. i think it is a beautiful time to be able to figure out what your style is. >> to experiment with in the midst of some sort of transitioning. >> right, yeah. >> people don't even think about folks comfortability going to shops. you know? are you going to get help? is somebody going to say, hey, you should try this one. >> don't unlock the door for the dressing room. >> you know, there is so many things that people take for granted. >> here is just a small sampling of things that you don't have to

worry about if you are si, gender. strangers asking you about your ag genitals. being told that you are lying. laborious conversations about pronouns with your dumb uncle who you know understands but simply refuses because uncle maga wants to be an asshole. >> i think that being a black sis guy, there is a responsibility that's there when we start talking about someone else who we might have a little privilege over. >> and i have certainly experienced that privilege and i was certainly ignorant to that privilege. i'm excited to be course corrected. as much as i think i know, i know i know more than the average person, but that doesn't mean i know anybody close. >> well, you know. that's more than the average

person, kamal. >> i can say sis gender and know what that means. 1% of them. >> a system that teaches us the normal and natural way to be. what else do i know? nonbinary. gender identities that are neither male nor female. >> you need to say them in the correct format? >> yes. >> you know what's so funny? i worked for this organization, and the hr lady, bless her heart, she's like maybe 60-something, and she's like hi, faye. i'm so excited that you are here. they really are just a really beautiful person and i am really excited about them. and i'm like i'm standing in front of you. >> they? >> yeah. yeah. it was cute, though.

i guess it was like effort. effort matters more than i feel like sometimes just none at all. >> cisgender hetero sexual men like myself, if i'm not hurting anybody, if i'm not killing anybody, i'm doing enough. obviously we can do more. what can men like me do better? >> let me ask you. what do you feel like your role is? >> i think the hardest thing to do is to tell other men to shut up, to not let that locker room talk go. there is things that are harder. it is easier to let go and think, i'm not going to get involved with this. >> it's not locker room talk. it's violence. >> people getting killed. >> yeah. it's violence in that when we're able to laugh at somebody else's humanity being taken away from them, that wasn't the physical act of violence, but it was a precursor to the physical acts of violence because it's been

okay in the minds of the person who have the child that might go and do that thing. it's simple for you to reach out to your home boy and be like, hey, that wasn't cool that you did that right there. then for me to do it. >> right. >> then for pocahotas to do it. it does matter that you are not harming anybody but also that you are proactivity being iffy racist. you know. >> turn into like an intervention, which i appreciate. i'm not mad at. >> there is a conversation that needs to be had. >> absolutely. absolutely. >> i ain't done letting you off the hook easy.

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its place on america's frontier, texas has built itself into a cosmopolitan center of the world. >> i grew up here in dallas. >> okay. >> dallas is home. i remember we would go to places like nieman marcus downtown, and they had these separate entrances for black people. but i had wonderful parents. so my childhood was great here. >> g-momma, a role model for the community nationwide, an activist and a joy to be around. >> back in my earlier years, i knew that i was not the person that i was born question net ic -- genetically. i began my transition in '64.

i went to college, and i came out with a nursing license. so i was able to -- >> get that money. >> yeah. well, you know, you had to do something. >> of course. of course. >> so i worked as a nurse. >> so at the hospital you worked at you were -- >> at the hospital, i was sharon. >> okay. >> and undressing, going back home with my family -- >> ah, it's got to be stressful. >> it was. it was very stressful. i thought it was really, really time for me to be me. >> yeah. >> i ended up in seattle and a friend of mine came to visit. she had a nightclub act. she was a snake charmer. she left. she left the snake. i had this 12 foot anaconda and

six foot boa constrictor in my guest room. long story short, i ended up with the snakes and developing my own nightclub act. yeah. i'm really working all over the country, and i'm lady shonda, the snake charmer. and now i'm opening for mary wells. ike and tina turner. it was really an interesting few years of my life. so from that point on, my life was my life, you know. >> you could be who you were everywhere. >> yeah, yeah. but i didn't want the entertainment thing anymore. i decided to move to the bay

area. that's like '76 now. >> okay. it's on and popping in the bay. >> yeah. there is still black folks in the bay. >> oh, yeah. >> in san francisco. >> yeah, it was -- hey. i just loved it. it was everything. >> yeah. >> now we're into late '70s. at the time, we did not know what it was, but the age -- >>aids pandemic was about to hit and i began my activism. now there is a large lgbtq community here in dallas. but unfortunately, they have a lot to do in terms of equity for the trans community. there is a divisiveness in the

lgbtq community. i love my brothers, but they forgot who made this, this comfort level that they experience now, who made that possible. >> uh-huh. >> they forgot. >> in large part has been whitewashed. trans activists are key figures who played vital roles in the organizing and activism that was happening before and after stone wall. >> history shows and has proven that the people at the forefront of the movement were black trans women. we were the ones who were arrested, who got beat with those clubs. we were out there fighting for

rights for our brothers, too. for our sisters. >> uh-huh, uh-huh. >> it wasn't about just us. it was that we were tired of our community being treated as third class citizens. >> while things have certainly changed since ms. sharon's generation, black trans women are still fighting for their rights. if you are going to fight, you might as well have a podcast. >> welcome back. the third episode of all for one. >> the topic for today is dating. >> when we started, it was really important to me that we created content that wasn't just for us, but other people who may not be in the community could relate to it and gain something from it. >> so when you talked about dating, what in the podcast are you talking about. >> dating as a single tran woman in this country is a full. a proper full. >> it's comedy.

>> so the hardest part is -- >> trying to find somebody today. >> where did you meet the people you are dating? >> the average trans woman relates to the safety of distance so you can give disclosure in advance. i can have that conversation and see where your head is at. am i a fitetish. >> i don't want to feel like i have to explain myself. >> you feel like an experiment. >> i don't want your question to be what do i have between my legs. that shouldn't be the first question. >> and i'm sure that happens. >> it happens all the time, not just sometimes. all the time. >> you have to be really protective because there is going to be a lot of people who want access to you and it's not always good. >> right. >> right. >> we're more likely to get killed than anything. >> because of the shame.

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what's going on? what's the tea? can you see me? >> this fire cracker is m. booker. she ain't playing. >> that's my granny or gigi. i never had a boring conversation with her. >> everybody knew her because she had this platform on facebook. i wouldn't say she wanted to be famous. she just wanted to be free. she just wanted to be her. she just wanted to share herself with others. >> the mother that raised her. >> i just seen a leader in her. like she wasn't a follower. i was intrigued by her. i wanted to get to know her. >> tatiania is her trans mother that many form outside of their

homes. can't have too many moms. >> tell me about malaysia growing up. >> it's hard when people ask me about that because i raised a son. i raised pierre to the age of 18. i felt like she was gay growing up, you know, but she kept denying and kept saying she wasn't. so i never would have thought trans. i didn't see that. >> when did malaysia tell you? >> one day we were coming home from the store. she said, oh, by the way, i'm going to live my life as a woman now. i almost wrecked my car. i said, how the hell are you going to do that? >> i love the fact that she was in the backseat like a child. >> it was just a heated argument. by the way, can i have my birthday party at your house? and, so, on her birthday, she had a birthday party at home. she came in full --

>> yeah, yeah. i engaged for a while and i had to go lay down because it was too much from me. i come from a christianity background. that's taught to be wrong. as a parent, i didn't know like who to talk to. that's stuff you don't talk to people about. >> how did you come to terms with it? >> it took a while. we had a roller coaster relationship. she would have this thing where, momma, you got to start calling me malaysia. i'm not like, no, pierre. she'd be like, i don't like that punk, that boy. i would get angry when she said that. >> oh, as if pierre was a separate person? >> right. you know, when you have your child, they tell you, congratulations. it's a boy. it's a girl. y it bothered me, like what is it

in you that you don't like about yourself? so we were having this tug away and she would stay away because she felt like i wasn't respecting her. so i start missing my baby. this is my child. i love my child. so i would pray to god like, am i missing something? explain that to me? because my child's sexuality is different, i can't hate or not love my child. so i started yielding like, okay, you want to be malaysia, i'll call you malaysia. >> but come home. >> right. >> hey, trey, hey, boyfriend, it's mommy. >> tell me about malaysia out in the world, out in the culture? >> she already had her platform on facebook because she had this thing she called story time that used to get on my nerves. >> yes, ma'am. and we like the brakes down.

oh, we smell good, y'all. >> anybody looking for a trans gender wife? >> malaysia was full of life. she was a character. so she just always would record herself yourself going life just talking. >> hilarious. people used to be on the loif watching her. >> you like this hombre look. yes, ma'am. i put a little concealer there and i'm like, i don't feel like wiping it off. >> malaysia gave her this confidence. pierre was timid, shy. like sometimes i'd be like, i can't believe it's the same person. >> when you finally accept who you actually are and you leave all that behind, all the timidness, the shyness, the scariness, she's going to be who she is out in public and sometimes that offends people.

don't nobody know why it does, but it does offend people. >> in april 2019, the world witnessed the violence tran women faced for existing when a video of malaysia being attacked and beaten in a parking lot became viral. >> everybody in the world could see exactly how it goes, how trans women are looked at in the community. most people don't get to see what actually happens. they just hear about it. >> and then malaysia had the press conference, right? >> uh-huh. >> this has been a rough week for myself, the transgender community and also the city of dallas. >> i just felt like just lay low, you know, and just figure things out. >> which i think she felt that way, too. she didn't want to be the voice for this. she didn't want to be the voice of the girl who got beat up on. >> black folks in general we get abused or brutalized.

>> this time i could stand before you whereas in other scenarios we are at a memorial. >> i got a phone call early morning. i was like, oh, no. it was sunday. it was sunday morning. >> just one month later, malaysia was shot and killed in another hate crime. >> i have so much anger when malaysia passed. i was angry at malaysia. i got angry at god too, for a minute. i'm just going to be honest with you. i just kept trying to make sense of it. but god would start bringing myself to my remembrance. malaysia would tell me all the time. everybody knows she would always like -- she was willing to die for her respect. she said there is so much in it.

it angers me to say it now because i was just like, are units? but it's like, you know how jesus came here and he knew what his purpose was, so i just feel like when i look back at it that that was part of what she was supposed to do, to open doors. a lot of people have been beaten, killed. so a momma going to take that and turn it into something positive. and that's the malaysia booker foundation where families can go for much needed guidance and support. >> people get so caught up with the stress, but it affects the family as well. my baby girl took it so hard. she breaks me down because i see how much it affects her. at the funeral she had said i had a brother that i loved. >> i grew up with a brother who i loved and i was later introduced to malaysia who i

loved. that was my sister. and she meant a lot to me. >> how old was she? >> and she said that. and i was just like, wow. i thought about some of the times where we would get into it and i thought about like, i'm glad she wasn't alone. she can go cry to somebody who she felt understood her. when we're into it, she can go over there and be into her extended family. >> takes a village. >> right. >> i want to acknowledge a couple of people because malaysia has a lot of love from a lot of people. you could just look around. to his extended family, could you all please stand. [ applause ] >> she really touched me at the funeral when she told me and tj to stand up and she acknowledged to the world that she acknowledges us. that was really heart felt. i bawled in tears.

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face every day. here in dallas, malaysia's murder was the final straw. >> malaysia has a big part in all of our lives. the community is not that big and she was a big part of our community. she was my grand baby. so i was just like after malaysia, i was like, this is way, way too close to home. i was like, girl, let me get through this. you don't have a second. >> right. >> so we created a space. >> yeah. >> it was like on a hill of malaysia being killed. >> this house is personal, really personal to me. >> i realize that if i don't do it, who going to take care of them? >> i made it to 36 years old. and what can i give y'all to help y'all to where we're not out here getting killed anymore? >> the significance of her

making to 36 is important because the average life expectancy of a black woman of trans experience is 35. 35. that's because the violence they face comes in all forms. >> sometimes there is a law there to protect you and sometimes there isn't. i can point out every day the way the law fails people and specifically people who are literally at the margins. >> that's why we don't trust the law. that's why we don't go to the law. the law doesn't protect us in that way. >> diamond styles is the executive director of black trans women, inc. an attorney focussing on systemic trans discrimination. >> if you are a black trans person and you apply for a job and you get it and you experience discrimination and you are out of luck, talk about housing discrimination. >> there are currently 21 states

with no housing anti-discrimination laws to project trans people from being unfairly convicted or denied housing. >> in some places you are not guaranteed access to that. >> i have been through that. i couldn't go to the lbgtq shelter was i'm hiv positive. >> so you have employment. you have housing. can't even get to a shelter. and then the one thing i like to think about is public accomodation laws. >> it protects folks have being unfairly allowed service. and guess what? 23 states don't got them. >> now, you are pretty much getting erased out of society, then you are more likely to be involved with law enforcement. and there is a possibility of you going into the criminal legal system.

you can also experience discrimination in that place. >> it is also against the law to commit violence against another person. it is against the law to commit violence dpens another person. >> if i'm getting beat up by my boyfriend in my apartment, the police can come. he can actually weaponize my transness and say, that's not even a woman. that's a man. you can find him back. so now his response to my violence can be something totally inappropriate. he could leave and this man kills me or continues to beat me. you haven't done anything in regards to protecting me as in a domestic violence situation. >> and, so, i think the way you got to do the work is work from the point of who is actually experiencing the most violence. who is the most oppressed? who is denied the most imp opportunity? make sure that everyone live and thrive in a society that feels a little more freer.

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just starts flashing. fabric, it is just a flat surface and i can turn it into pretty much everything. it is magic. honestly. >> i'm wearing an amazing designer original from jacket to the pant from there, in case you don't believe me. i started sewing actually when i started drag. >> okay. >> i ended up making something for kennedy davnport. she went into ru paul's drag race. then i met alyssa. >> a lot of people don't know the difference between drag culture and drag queens and being a trans woman. >> right. so i feel like when you are a drag queen, it is more of an art form. it is more than expression. when you are being a woman, it is a lifestyle. you know? it is something that you wake up and you do every single day.

it is who you are. >> it is not a constant. >> they're not selling it at party city. >> yeah. or you wake up every day as a woman. >> you wake up every day in your own skin. i'm thankful that my mother is so proud of the person i have become, too. >> have you two always been so close? >> yes. yes, always. >> even more so after i became trans, to be honest. >> there is a narrative out there that the black community is more homophobic than other communities. >> how do i not accept it is the question? the question is not how do i accept it. how would i not accept my child. >> that's the better question. that birth certificate reads me as the mother. this is a care that has moved inside your belly. this is something that you gave

life to. why would you turn your back on your own child when you have society already judging your child. >> if i'm going to hell, listen, i'm going to go there and i'm going to look fabulous. >> i'm not going to let anybody control my life. you only have one to live and i'm going to live it the way i'm going to live it. i have nephews and nieces and, you know, people that i'm trying to give them something that's different to look up to. i'm not crying. no. and i just want to make them proud. >> you know, tracy did a video recently. oh, my god! look at this video. tracy is on tv. i said yes, it is. i didn't know! you know, they looked up to their aunt tracy. >> i definitely thank god every day for my talent because i

don't know where i would be if it wasn't for fashion just because i feel like there wasn't many women for me to look at in that form when i was growing up. there was literally only jerry springer and mauri and they were just literally exploiting the trans women with is it a boy or a girl? they were more fascinated with this than anything else. it is nice for girls to look out and see, especially a girl of color, being able to live her dreams. your name ♪ ♪ ♪ and they're always glad you came ♪ welcome back, america. (burke) phone it in to farmers to switch and you could save an average it sure is good to see you. of four hundred and sixty-seven dollars on your auto insurance. welcome back, america. (man) phone it in? way ahead of you. daddy's saving money. (burke) go ahead, phone it in. ♪ we are farmers. bum-pa-dum, bum-bum-bum-bum ♪

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it's really important that people who need condoms get condoms. especially in the trans community, being so heavily and disproportionately impacted by hiv. >> she provides health services to hoig risk groups within the trans community where all too often sex work is the only means to survive. >> some people think people are doing it by choice. this is the industry they choose to be in. but, no, poeople are in this to survive because they don't have another skill set. they may not have had an opportunity to finish high school, to go to college. they may not have had the opportunity to get that internship or to start that job that could have put them on the right track. >> being trans, doors might be

close to you that would be opened to other people. and very simple doors. if you want a job at that coffee shop, that door might be closed to you. >> yes. >> there are many things that many of us take for granted. >> yes. >> if enough of those doors are closed to you, you end up having to do survival work. >> trans people are people. we bleed the same. you know, we cry the same. we laugh the same, and we deserve to live without fear of discrimination. >> you knew when to hit the wind machines because your hair was doing that while you were doing that speech. >> maybe somebody would say, oh, i like that hair i'm listening to her. >> you know how it is. >> the neighborhood doesn't feel as welcoming. i have heard stories of black trans women being put out of clubs and being discriminated against.

but you know this is a place you can go to and you don't have to worry about that. >> it is about to be lit. what's up, naomi? how are you feeling today? >> being able to come here and just let my hair down, i mean, i get to just be me, naomi or naynay. >> how did you come together? >> i joined the scene november of 2019. they were the fem queens of the scene. >> how does gay family get formed? and why is it necessary to call it out as family. you can say, this is my friend. this is my mentor. >> it started in the '70s. a lot of people were put out of the house. you know, they were put out of homes. you had people who have been in the scene longer who would literally have to take people in to their house and i'll take you

under my umbrella. i'll make sure you have a place to live. it really started as that. >> she helped me through the avenues when i was in college and going through that. we had a house with -- it was so many of us. and she took care of everybody. she made sure everybody was where they needed to be. it's your chosen family. >> we all know that family isn't always a dna thing. it's also an i see you thing. but we don't all know having to find a new family because our bio family, the culture at large and the laws kick us out. that's how it is when you're trans, but especially a black trans woman. these family bonds they form are strong and beautiful. we all need more family like this.

family who loves us, sees us and fights for us. hopefully i can be the new cousin. some democrats grow tired of waiting. can they deliver on their promises? house speaker nancy pelosi and

alexandria ocasio-cortez join me. and the rule of law. secretly seized data from house democrats. >> it is such a body blow to our democracy. >> just how far-reaching was this effort by the justice department? hello. i'm dana bash in washington where the state of our union is trying to mend if he saids and build bridges. he was welcomed back to the club of key allies. but his biggest challenge is yet to come. the president is also preparing for a closely watched summit with russian president vladimir putin as tensions between the two countries continue to rise. in the meantime, the president's priorities here at home from infrastructure to voting rights have run smack into the reality of a 50/50 senate. late this week, a