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it gets to these specifics of where officers need to be. >> a truly significant issue facing the entire country. josh, thank you very much for joining us and to our viewers, thanks very much for watching. i'm wolf blitzer in "the situation room." you can always follow me on twitter and instagram @sitroom. erin burnett "out front" starts right now. out front next, breaking news. the justice department releasing harrowing bodycam footage of the january 6th attack with a police officer among the rioters, wielding a flag pole attacking the capitol police. how can trump allies whitewash what happened that day? plus more breaking news, multiple shootings in arizona tonight amid a surge in gun violence across the united states. one georgia woman, a grocery store cashier was shot and killed for telling a customer to wear a mask. her sister is out front.
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morgan stanley says to his employees, quote, if you can go to a restaurant, you can come into the office, why that's hitting such a nerve. let's go out front. and good evening, i'mier irn burnett. out front tonight, the breaking news. horrifying new video of the assault on the capitol an officer attacked with a metal pole. rioters screaming profanities at officers before rushing them and engaging in hand to hand combat. this video was just released by the department of justice. it was actually taken by a police officer's bodycam, and i want to play it for you because people are denying what happened that day happened and it's important to show again and again the truth. i warn you the video is disturbing. >> they have years! [ bleep ] police!
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mother [ bleep ] attack americans [ expletive ] that! >> take your [ expletive ] off! take your [ expletive ] off! [ expletive ] you! >> go! >> stop! >> no, no, no, no! >> stop! stop! >> prosecutors say the man you saw in the red jacket is thomas webster, a former marine and a former new york city police officer. the doj also released this photo of webster straddling the officer. you see them struggling over
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that metal pole. and then this photo showing webster attacking the officer who was on the ground. webster has been charged with seven federal crimes. as the justice department is now charging another capitol rioter tonight with bringing a semiautomatic handgun on capitol grounds. a semiautomatic. just two days after republican congressman made this claim. >> the prop gandists claim that this was an armed insurrection, but no guns were found. >> well, they're charging someone with bringing a semiautomatic. guns were found. lives were in danger. in fact, five lives were lost. people are permanently injured, police officers and now some of trump's acolytes in congress are trying to blame the officers who protected them for actually perpetrating the violence that day. let me just pause and let that sink in. to even imagine such a twist. here's republican paul gosar.
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>> the capitol police officer who did that shooting appeared to be lying hiding in wait, and no warning before killing her. question again, why hasn't that officer that executed ashley babbitt been named when police officers around the country are routinely identified after a shooting? >> pretty stunning thing to say. republican congressman liz cheney obviously feels that way. she reminded gosar, quote, on january 6th as the violent mob advanced on the house chamber i was standing near representative gosar and helped him open his gas mask. the capitol police led us to safety. it is despicable to see gosar lie about that day and smear the men and women who defended us, but yet gosar is doing it, and some of his republican colleagues are, as well. they have forgotten all of that. they simply remember their fidelity to donald trump. maybe they have not seen the new video that i just showed you. i want to show part of it to you again. an officer, a police officer, getting attacked by rioters with
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a metal pole. it's shocking and horrifying, but you know what? there's no way that gosar and others haven't seen horrifying videos like this already because we have been playing them over and over for months! officers getting assaulted, some gravely wounded that day. people dying, and yet to people like gosar, these officers are now the enemy? some republicans seem to be looking high and low, very low for any theory to shift blame from trump and his supporters to just about anyone else. and i mean, just hold on here a second. when i say shift blame to just about anyone else, listen to this. this new conspiracy theory that fox news host tucker carlson put out there. >> strangely, some of the key people who participated on january 6th have not been charged. look at the documents. the government calls those people unindicted co-conspirators. what does that mean?
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it means that in potentially every single case they were fbi operatives. >> huh? tucker carlson is now saying the fbi was part of the riot guilty of assaulting america's capitol? this is an incredible thing to say. it is incredibly irresponsible. of course, members of congress who refuse to admit their actions and trump actions leading up to january 6th, were the real cause of the insurrection that day and they have picked up on this new, baseless theory, rushing to it. the usual suspects here, i give you congressman marjorie taylor-greene. she tweets we need names and answers about the fbi operatives who were involved in organizing and carrying out the january 6th capitol riot and congressman matt gaetz who was under fbi investigation over sex trafficking allegations involving a minor sent a letter to fbi director chris wray. he sent him a letter asking how many fbi agents were at the
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capitol during the siege. this is making something completely up and then telling people that they have to prove that you're wrong as opposed to telling you you're crazy. officers did not lie in wait planning to execute innocent bystanders. there was violence. it was perpetrated by the people there, the rioters. some of whom had weapons including metal pipes. they were the violent ones, not the officers trying to defend those in congress and the capitol has. marshall cohen is out front in washington. what more are you learning about this new video, this horrible video involving that metal pole and the charges against the rioter in it. >> erin, good evening. this video came out today because cnn and other news outlets were pushing in court for the doj to release videos like these from the capitol riot. you're seeing it right now. the guy who will come on your screen in the red jacket. prosecutors say that he is
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thomas webster. he's a former marine. he's a former nypd cop, and this footage shows him attacking other cops on the other side of that line who were defending the capitol. as you said, he was shown here wielding a pipe. that pipe was eventually wrestled away by the officer, but not before webster in the red here. you can see him throwing that cop to the ground. there are pictures of him grabbing at the officer's face. this is just one of the many brutal scenes from january 6th and we're finally even all these months later starting to get a glimpse at the front lines, this brutal hand to hand combat from that really terrible day, erin. >> marshall, thank you very much. just, as awful as it is it's important to see that because as marshall says, there are people out there, gaetz, taylor greene
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who are denying it. out front now, avalon, and former republican congressman. congresswoman comstock, let me start with you. as a republican, what do you think when you see and hear and read the lengths that some of your former colleagues are willing to go to in order to whitewash what happened on january 6th, now saying that the fbi was who orchestrated and led this attack? >> well, i share the views of liz cheney who has been a great lead or this along with adam kinzk kinzinger and others. this is disgusting, it is baseless and every republican should denounce this. there's just no basis in fact and as many prosecutors today have pointed out, you can -- an unindicted co-conspirator cannot by definition be an fbi agent, so i would hope that director wray would respond and tell
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people this is baseless. i know he has to wait and he can't comment on a lot of cases, but given how dangerous this is and that's one of my big concerns and these continued lies and this is orchestrated because this is coming from a number of right-wing sources and then they go out and echo each other. this is very dangerous. it's what's being called the november 3rd movement. you have to believe in the election lie and you have to keep coming up with more absurd, you know, arguments to try and bolster this, and it's dangerous, and when we've had 107% increase in threats against members of congress, i fear that it is going to get worse before it gets better if we don't have more republicans standing up like liz is and adam and others and calling b.s. on this and nobody could be more eloquent than michael fanone, a officer
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that was beaten in medevil and they can't back the blue and they can't say they do until they denounce this. >> john, i think, the congresswoman speaks so well when she describes it was medeivel, and the rushing officers and the metal pole being used as a weapon. you know, it's awful to look at these things, but i guess i'm really grateful we have them because you have people out there saying that it didn't happen, and then somehow you are forced every single day to show people that it does and it's like looking at the sky and someone says it's pink and you are forced to explain to them that it is indeed blue and you spend your whole life doing that
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and you ask what am i doing here? you have people day in and day out something that happened did not happen and now that it's being perpetrated by the fbi and how is it possible, john? >> it's possible because they've bought into the big lie and they're compromised politically through fear and short-term self-interest if not absolute belief themselves and that's precisely why this video is so important, why watching it is so important, making people confront reality because this video in particular knocks down all of the little lies that buttress the big lie that we've heard congressmen in particular shamefully trot out. this was a tour. it was a mostly peaceful protest. it wasn't armed. maybe it was antifa. it wasn't trump supporters. all of those lies, fail and fall in the face of this incontrovertible evidence and that's why we have to keep showing it until those lies wear down, and they have bought into this for their own reasons.
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these are january 6th truthers, in effect and they're in positions of power and so that's why we need to keep confronting them with this fact because this mob mentality almost took down their democracy. >> you mentioned officer fanone and you keep helping his family and the family of brian sicknick and other officers to navigate a meeting with republicans, right? to have conversations with the republicans who they were defending that day as well as the democrats. officer sicknick's family along with other officers ninjured tht day are deeply, deeply hurt by these attempts to shift blame by some in the gop. here's officer fanone and others who have spoken. >> i think a lot of times these lawmakers on capitol hill, they feel like they can say whatever they want and they're never going to be held accountable for those words. well, your words have consequences and congressmen, you're lying about what happened on january 6th and i'm going to be there to confront anyone who lies about january 6th.
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>> we held the line, and that, to me, we sacrificed for them to not only put everything on the line, but they are not doing what they're supposed to. they're not fulfilling their oath for office, to put the country before their party and for me, for them to continue these lies and turn and twist, this happened and this -- it's uncalled for. it's a betrayal to us, the officers. >> i was absolutely broken, devastated. you know, i mean, it's just absolutely atrocious and it makes me even angrier and they're doing this to protect donald trump. >> congresswoman, how do republicans not hear, not listen to these voices? >> i don't know. that's why i am so proud of these officers for standing up. it's not easy. they've gotten threats
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themselves by being out and talking about this. that's one of the reasons when they go out, oftentimes these right-wing sites will then attack them and they get the hate mail and this is the ecosystem that creates that. so that is why i think it's so important that we have a thorough investigation and here a here's the irony. these members who were saying they're making up these crazy ideas and they're the ones who didn't want a thorough investigation. if they believe this nonsense, they should be the first to want to have an investigation, but think, they know -- maybe some of these nuts don't know it's not true and i know the leadership has to know it's not true and they need to stand there. i would like to see this video and other videos shown in the republican caucus meetings. i'd like for them to hear from officer fanone, because i remember when i was a member we brought in the guys who took
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down, you know, osama bin laden and they told us exactly what went on in the front lines there. if we could hear from those people, let's hear from officer fanone who was -- he was there that day as a volunteer. >> right. >> he could have gone home. he self-deployed before anyone told him to go out there to save his fellow, you know, officers as well as the members of congress who were running for safety while he was running into battle. they owe him to listen to him and to the other officers. they owe him a thorough investigation and they owe him and others and the american people to stop lying about this and for members of congress to call out the republican members. >> it is amazing. >> the lying members of congress. >> to your point and it is amazing the point she just raised.
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the people now saying the fbi started this whole thing and were involved in it, and of course, it's patently absurd, but if you're going to allege such a stupefying thing and then to vote against a bipartisan commission that mccarthy got every single thing he wanted to investigate it, i mean, that is an inconsistency that is -- that cannot be -- a circle that kvnt be squared. >> of course, so saying you're a patriot while trying to defend and attempt to overturn an election and it's a contradiction to the deepest values and let's be honest what's motivating it, fear. in some cases that they bought into the big lie and they're afraid of losing face. in other cases they're afraid of donald trump. in other cases they're afraid of the base and they're afraid of threats. so the congressmen need to rediscover something called courage and actually stand up for what is true and those who insist on defending the line and these increasingly pathological
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p fantasies around what happened need to be around the terms perpetually. >> thank you both very much. >> since congress has failed to pass an investigation, right? a bipartisan investigation into what happened and why on january 6th, don't miss our special report, assault on democracy, the roots of trump's insurrection. our drew griffin with new details on what happened that day. this sunday night at 9:00. next more than 150 years after slaves in texas were the last to learn that they'd been emancipated, juneteenth is now a federal holiday. 14 republicans objected calling the move divisive and a celebration of identity politics. plus gun violence surging across the country this year. one of those crimes the murder of a store clerk who asked a customer to follow store policy, just put your mask on. her sister is my guest. >> they went from supporting trump on the day of the insurrection to now running for elected office. >> people were on the capitol
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harris, the nation's first black vice president says today is the huge step forward for, quality, but that the fight is not over. >> we have come far, and we have far to go, but today is a day of celebration. it is not only a day of pride. it is also a day for us to reaffirm and rededicate ourselves to action. >> we can't rest until the promise of equality is fulfilled for every one of us in the corner of this nation. that to me is the meaning of juneteenth. >> before biden signed the bill into law, harris as president of the senate signed it beside the bust of frederick douglas. it is the first federal holiday in the united states since martin luther king jr. day was established. these 14 house republicans opposed the bill. congressman rosendale voted no because this is an effort by the left to create a day to celebrate identity politics.
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congressman chip roy saying in part, quote, this needlessly divides our nation on a matter that should instead bring us together by creating a separate independence day based on the color of one's skin. out front, sheila jackson-lee who sponsored the bill and congresswoman you were with president biden at the white house today for the ceremony and had the honor of holding the gavel when the house passed the bill yesterday. i appreciate your time and as i emphasized you had a unanimous vote in the senate and this is significant and this is bipartisan in a way that nothing has been in a long time and that is very, very important to note. i will ask you about those republicans in congress in a moment because they are important, but you supported this for a long time and you introduced a bill to make this a holiday a year ago and it's been a journey decades in the making. how does it feel to be there, to finally see president biden sign it. >> there's history behind this bill and my work on it is 12
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years consecutively and continuing lonely sometimes, but then drawing in a wide breath of support. can you actually believe that a president of the united states was in a white house built by slaves and signing legislation that affirmed their freedom? >> it was an amazing experience. so being in the white house and having the president even say that in all that he might do in his four years as president, his first four years that this might be his greatest honor. that's how i felt about it, but i also felt that i was standing on the shores of the very place where general granger might have come to speak to those slaves in galveston. remember, they were still property and not even counted as human beings when i he made that announcement and gentlemen employers and employees and that was the kind of experience that we were having in the white house and we've come this far on
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this journey to get this national holiday. >> so i mentioned, of course, the unanimity in the senate and not in the house and i just quoted from two of your -- [ no oaudio ] >> based on the color of one's skin. what do you say to that? >> what i say is that small, minute opinion was just that. it was isolated. it was small. i'm sure they expected to have a much larger presence of no votes. i made sure that republicans knew that they were as much a part of the freedom of slaves as anyone else. we had 415 votes. so those were minority opinions inside of minority opinions. sad that they had to interpret it that way. it is even more sad that they can't see unity and grab hold of it when it smacks them in the face. we did a great thing and what we
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did was we opened the door. we opened the door for discussion to bring us to a final conclusion in the george floyd justice and policing bill and we opened the door on racial equity and social equity. and you have some that we won't get on these other bills like fixing the rights, but what they expected was what they did not get and that 415s is largest vote we've seen in a good number of months or years, if you will. what we did is we showed the american people that we could be unified as members of the house and senate and we gave them a holiday where they can be unified celebrating freedom. >> biden said the fight now means protecting the right to vote. democrats are pushing rights. joe manchin oppose the current bill. he has unveiled a compromise
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which includes 15 consecutive days of early voting and he drops no excuse voting and adds a utility bill to account for that. here's what stacy abrams had to say about manchin's changes to the bill. >> what senator manchin is putting forward are some basic building blocks that we need to ensure that democracy is accessible no matter your geography and those provisions that he is setting forth are strong ones that will create a level playing field. >> so, you know, she sounds pretty clear, basic provisions, strong ones, level playing field. she is not knocking manchin's changes which are significant to some of the tenets of the bill. do you agree with her? >> erin, i've served on the judiciary committee now for two decades and i've had the pleasure of helping to write the reauthorization of the voting rights act under george w. bush where the senate voted 98-0 on
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that bill and over 400 members of the united states house voted for that bill. knowing this hr-1 very extensively and having known the language and the provisions and it is far more extensive than what senator manchin has put forward and it's a start and i applaud him for it. i'm looking forward to our discussions going forward, looking, if you will, into what he's offered and i frankly believe he can come to a real good place with his support, adding some additional provisions that i think we should not be against the reenfranchising those who served their time, who have previously been felons. i think we need to look more of how we need to mail ballots appropriately because it is sad that you have to have a defense of the disabled person for why you want to, if you will, why you want to vote by mail in some of the states' laws that they put forward. where senator manchin is is
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welcome and that means we are all at the table to get this done along with many other social justice bills. erin, i think we're moving in the right direction and today in the juneteenth bill it says we opened the door. we can work together and we can be unified and voting is about freedom, as well. >> congresswoman, i appreciate your time. thank you. >> thank you for having me. >> multiple shootings in arizona tonight. we have the very latest as the united states grapples with the spike in gun violence. i want to talk to a woman whose sister, a grocery store cashier was killed after she asked a customer to follow store policy and put the mask on. using a capitol riot to boost the political campaign. one man who was arrested and charged is now running for elected office. bipolar depression.
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breaking news, one person is dead and 12 others injured, three with gunshot wounds. a suspect is in custody following multiple shootings northwest of phoenix. the police are describing as, quote, random acts. the shooting spree has unfolded over 90 minutes, eight separate shooting incidents in what the
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arizona police department say was a drive-by shooting. it's horrific. it's terrifying and it comes as cities across the united states are struggling to get a handle on an alarming surge of gun violence and murder with cities seeing historic murder rates. natasha chen is out front. >> from coast to coast, a plague of gun violence has cities on high alert. in the last week alone there have been about 19 mass shootings according to the gun violence archive where at least four people were shot. in west baltimore wednesday afternoon police described a, quote, brazen shooting when gunmen fired indiscriminately and hit six people killing one of them. in chicago tuesday morning four people were killed in a shooting at a home. one of the victims was set to graduate this week. in austin, police now say an argument between two groups of teens escalated to a shooting that left one person dead and injured 14 others over the weekend. according to the gun violence archive, gun deaths in the u.s. not including suicides are about
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19% higher than at this point in 2020, and about 38% higher than this point in 2019. ryan lemmic from the brady pact said this is an imperfect storm. >> the rise in background checks that we saw and the rise of new firearms flooding the market exacerbates all of those -- those challenges that we once faced before. we know that the loopholes that exist at gun shows and the loopholes that exist with online sales and the introduction of ghost guns and 3d printed guns are a real problem for us. >> three weeks after a disgruntled employee shot and killed nine colleagues at a san jose rail yard, san yjose is th first to be mandated with footage to be kept for 30 days. >> ensuring that those with prior criminal records, those the subject of restraining orders and domestic violence are not able to get guns.
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>> on the other end of the gun policy spectrum, in september, texas will allow people 21 and older who can legally possess firearms in the state to carry handguns in public without permits. meanwhile on monday in decatur, georgia, a supermarket cashier, 41-year-old laquita willis was shot and killed by a customer. she asked a man to pull up his mask and refused. he left the store, returned later, walked up to willis and shot her. in nearby atlanta where police say there have been 60% more murders this year compared to the same period in 2020, city council members pressed police for answers at a public safety meeting this week. >> i think we're all just seeing something different that's a little more frightening, where these people are trying to take over our city and send a message. >> erin, the people committing these crimes may be sending a mess message, but so are the
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communities shaken by every one of these deaths including this community in decatur, georgia. these people have been praying for laquita willis, and there's quite a memorially g growing in. her coworker said the light is on in that lane for her because she was a bright light. erin? >> thank you very much, natasha. i want to bring in alexis brelin now. she is laquita willis' sister, and alexis, i am so sorry for your loss. three days ago you were with your sister and this horrific and incomprehensible thing has happened, and an outpouring of grief in the community. people there scelebrating your sister and what emotion are you feeling if you're each capable
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of feeling. >> shock and disbelief are definitely at the forefront. it's still incomprehensible to even think about what is being reported that happened to my sister on monday, but as you said, the outreach of the community has -- has given me and my family so much love and strength as we try to make sense of what happened. >> tell me about your sister. what was she like? >> well, i definitely appreciate this opportunity to do that. i -- i see in the newspaper and on other channels, she's referred to as a cashier, but i just want everybody to know that she was more than a cashier. she was a servant leader of her community. and this is prevalent, as you can see with all of the people that's coming out to support her, and you can see the many lives that she touched.
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she was more than just a cashier. she was a front-end manager there and she basically -- she was so committed to that organization that wherever they needed her there they could easily just plug and play her, you know, and -- and the organization continued to be a success because of that. >> i mean, she had worked at big bear for more than a decade. as you say, this was central to the organization and she was doing her job. there's a mask wearing policy in the store. i'm sure there were countless times a day she had to ask someone just doing her job, hey, can you put your mask on and that's what she did, and someone killed her. it is senseless and unspeakable. alexis, i know you want to come on and talk about her and who she was, but i have to ask you, can you even process what has happened here? >> if i'm being honest, i haven't yet. i've just been focusing on being
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there for my family as well as they're being there for me because it is unspeakable. senseless. i just can't imagine why it happened. >> so you're talking about how important she was in the community, a servant leader, you said. >> yes, ma'am. >> there was an off-duty sheriff's deputy who was working security who tried to intervene. he got injured himself during the shootout with the suspect and two days later he was at laquita's memorial, and your sister worked there for a decade and they worked with her all of the time and here's what they had to say about her. >> she was a sweet, sweet woman. >> she was a beautiful person. >> she was quiet. she was -- she was the light of big bear. >> there's a part of you that has to be just amazed to hear
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those things about your sister. >> absolutely. i knew she was this for our family, but learning, like, how much she meant to the community, that she was the face that everybody expected to see when they came in the store, how truck drivers and other members of the community as they passed through atlanta, they would stop there, and they'd get lunch or dinner for their families and it was her that, you know, they expected to see when they came through and it was her kindness and professionalism that they all admired. >> so i know you're just a few years younger than laquitta and you talked about her being like a mother to you. i know you were incredibly close. how do you want people to remember her? i mean, in the horror, the unspeakable nature in which she died in this, people know her name, and how do you want them to remember her? >> absolutely like they've
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already deemed her. the light, you know, that shined bright there, and especially a servant leader of that community. >> alexis, thank you. thank you so much for having the k courage to speak out. i am so sorry. i am so sorry for your unspeakable loss. >> if i can have one more opportunity to thank the community. there have been so many people, such outpouring from donations, prayers, condolences that they've sent our family that's helped empower our family right now get through this situation. i just want to take this opportunity to thank so many people across the world that's reaching out to help us in our time of need. >> thank you. >> and next, a man arrested and charged with crimes allege saidly committed at the capitol on january 6th now says he's running for elected office and he is actually campaigning on
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the insurrection which may give his candidacy traction. >> i show up and i'm going to actually keep my promises and make some changes. >> and the ceo of the financial firm morgan stanley tells his workers if you can eat at a restaurant, you can go back to work. does mayoral candidate katherine garcia agree? she's out front. at carvana, get personalized terms, browse for cars that fit your budget, then customize your down payment and monthly payment. and these aren't made-up numbers. it's what you'll really pay, right down to the penny. whether you're shopping or just looking. it only takes a few seconds, and it won't affect your credit score. finally! a totally different way to finance your ride. only from carvana. the new way to buy a car. it's another day. and anything could happen. it could be the day you welcome 1,200 guests and all their devices. or it could be the day there's a cyberthreat.
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tonight, as many republican lawmakers try to whitewash the events of january 6th, some of the people at the u.s. capitol are running for political office and gaining ground. sarah murray is out front. >> reporter: from the capitol riot. >> yes, ladies and gentlemen, i was in washington, d.c. >> to the campaign trail. >> if election integrity is not the number one issue of these guys, then they're either lost, confused or too stupid to be running. [ cheering ] >> republican joey gilbert, a former boxer turned lawyer says he's launching a bid for nevada governor. >> i'm not a politician, and i never wanted to be a politician and i am going to be doing something here shortly and that is running for governor and the announcement after gilbert said he was in washington and scaled the capitol steps january 6th. one of the most beautiful things
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i have ever seen. people were on the capitol steps and we walked right up. >> and insists he never went inside. >>s some, some people went into the capitol. >> gilbert who is doubling down on the lie the election was stolen. >> in my opinion donald trump is still president. >> near the u.s. capitol on january 6th by cnn and other news outlets. in michigan, ryan kelly is running for governor and ducking questions about his whereabouts during the capitol insurrection. never had the -- [ no audio ] >> going inside, kelly would not respond to cnn or a local news reporter's question about images showing him deep in the fray of rioters outside the capitol. >> that's you, correct? right here. >> you got my statement on the capitol, brother. >> they can face crowded primaries and it's too early to
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say that they have a shot at victory while neither of them have been accused of a crime. that's not the case for jason rid elle. the new hampshire resident arrested after holding a bottle of wine he stole with a local news station. he faces five counts including theft of government property and has pleaded not guilty. now he says breaking into the capitol could be claims it will help his campaign. >> i'll keep my promises and make some changes. >> reporter: first he has to clarify what if anything he is running for >> i thought ann was a state representative. >> reporter: no. a state rep is in the state house in concord. >> yeah. that's what ann is. >> no, no. she is in washington. >> oh, i guess i got to run against that, then. >> incredible. these men are not only getting attention for being near the capitol that day. they are obviously clearly using it to advance their political careers. >> that is certainly the case of
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jason riddle though he seems to have no idea what he is running for. a another hitch is the conditions of his release, he is not allowed to set foot in d.c. we also sent detailed requests for comment to kelly and gilbert. they did not respond either. >> thank you so much for that report. next, free child care, affordable housing. new york city mayoral candidate kathryn garcia is all for it. who will pay for that? the city faces a $12 billion deficit. i'll ask garcia. life is full of make or break moments. that's why it's so important to help reduce
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one of the biggest road blocks as the nation's largest city recovers from the pandemic. it will largely fall on the city's next mayor to address with just five days until the primary election. we've spoken to three candidates, eric adams, andrew yang, and maya wiley over the last week, interviewing all the top contenders in the incredibly close ranked election. tonight is new york city mayoral candidate kathryn garcia endorsed by the "new york times" and "the new york daily news" and served as sanitation commissioner under mayor de blasio. i appreciate your time. i wanted to start with this comment from the morgan stanley ceo that is getting a lot of attention saying if you can go to a restaurant you can go into an office and better be there. it is becoming a flash point. do you support companies forcing people in new york city to come back into the office five days a week? >> i want new yorkers to come back into their offices as soon as possible but i don't think it is covid that's keeping them from coming back.
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it's the fact that schools are not open and it's the fact that people don't feel safe on our subways in particular. >> so all right. let's talk about people not coming back into the offices. we know they're not coming back like they used to and you're pointing to some other possible reasons. but all in, it comes down to the fact that it is a major threat to the city's economy, right? if companies start to downsize how much office space they need and people move away. the commercial real estate tax is about half the budget of new york looking at a $12 billion budget over the next few years. it could be a major crisis. how big a problem is it? >> if no one came back it would be a huge problem, but i know that employers, because i've been talking to them all through this election cycle, want their employees back at work. they know that you don't get perfect productivity over zoom. that you are losing something. and i am hearing loud and clear that they are going to bring
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their employees back. >> do you really think they will? during the middle of this they were the first to admit people were just as productive as they had been before. you know, not being in the office. we're seeing all of these companies that maybe compete to hiring people on the west coast, tech companies letting people work three days a week. what gives you the confidence? >> it is listening to the employers and what they're saying to me. there are going to be changes and i'm sure different businesses will follow different protocols. because they want to see new york thrive. they want to see their businesses thrive. they know when their people are together. you just are able to brain storm so much faster. >> so let me ask you about your plans because this is -- this return to the office is crucial because they pay so much of the taxes in the city. on your plans you've got free child care for families making less than $70,000 a year. 50,000 new units of affordable housing. expanding benefits for
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undocumented new yorkers. freelance workers. how much will these plans cost you? i guess that is the first thing. do you have a sense of how much this is going to cost? >> certainly. so the child care plan will cost a little bit north of $6700 million. it will cost a little bit north of $600 million. the undocumented plan is priced out. 57 units of deeply affordable housing comes off a slightly different budget, our capital budget, just to give you the scale of it, our capital budget is $118 billion. we are talking about in the single digit billions so this is not going to break the bank. the city of new york needs to make strategic investments so that we do grow and that our economy comes back to life. if you can't go to work because you don't have child care, we are losing out on so much productivity. >> i understand all those points but i just feel it is important
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to point out single digit billions, i understand you're talking relative to bigger budgets, but the city is looking at a $12 billion deficit so none of this money exists. how are you going to pay for it? >> so the $118 billion actually the current city capital budget and you ashl to find the money for housing in that budget already that exists. that is really separate from our expense budget. we are getting $22 billion, though, in both federal and state money that needs to last until our economy does come back. so when we are talking about $600 million for child care, that is the right place to be. but i want to see this economy grow. we cannot be solely dependent on cutting. but as you will see in my plans i have worked very well with labor to get productivity savings. when i was at a former agency, environmental protection, i got a hundred million dollars out of a billion dollars budget without
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a lay-off. >> kathryn garcia, i appreciate your time, commissioner, and voting is just in a few days. thank you very much >> i encourage everyone to be voting on tuesday. >> all right. thanks very much to all of you for joining us and being part of the show. "ac 360 with anderson" begins right now. good evening. we begin tonight with facts in the face of one political party's attempt to white wash history at home and abroad. now, this isn't about policy differences or the philosophical distinctions between democrats and republicans. it is simply about fact versus fiction. the gop's willingness to cynically embrace fiction and the damage this is doing. now, today as part of the court case against one person accused of assaulting police at the capitol on the 6th of january the justice department released new video, body cam video from one of the officers there that day assaulted that day. we'll play it for you uncut. it is brutal and ugly and contains profanity. and as you watch it, remember the majority of republicans in