tv Anderson Cooper 360 CNN June 17, 2021 9:00pm-10:00pm PDT
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good evening. we begin tonight with facts in the face of one political party's attempt to whitewash history at home and abroad. now, this isn't about policy differences or the philosophical differences between democrats and republicans. it's simply about fact, versus fiction. the gop's willingness to cynically embrace fiction, and the damage this is doing. now, today, as part of the court case against one of the people accused of assaulting police at the capitol on the 6th of january. the justice department released new video. it's body-cam video from one of
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the officers there, that day. assaulted, that day. and we are going to play it for you, uncut. it's brutal and it's ugly, and it contains profanity. and as you watch it, remember, the majority of republicans in congress do not want a full investigation into this. and some have even said, publicly, that what you are about to see didn't actually happen. >> fucking piece of shit. [ inaudible ] fuck. come on! take your shit off! take your shit off !
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>> these are people carrying trump flags, and confederate-battle flags overrunning a police line outside the capitol. trump supporters, violent ones. people willing to beat and trample members of law enforcement. people, willing to assault police officers, once they got inside. this, too, is new video. it's a different angle and footage you probably already seen of one officer getting crushed in a doorway. this is what is now being whitewashed. and the denial is now so deep, among the gop, that 21 house republicans could not -- these folks -- could not even bring themselves to vote for legislation honoring the men and women for the bravery they showed and the sacrifices they made in defending them, on that day. now, again, this new video was
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taken by an officer. and those 21 people, you just saw, don't want to honor that officer or any one of them. one of those 21, congressman andrew clyde of georgia, could not even summon the common decency to shake one of the officers' hands. clyde is the guy who said the mob behaved like normal tourists. that guy. and he is lying, and he knows he's lying. he was there. officer michael fanone was badly injured by the mob. he confronted congressman clyde, yesterday. >> i was very cordial. i extended my hand to shake his hand. he just stared at me. i asked him if he was going to shake my hand. and he told me that he didn't know who i was. so, i introduced myself. i said that i was officer michael fanone. that i was a d.c. metropolitan police officer. who fought on january 6th to defend the capitol. and as a result, i saufuffered traumatic-brain injury, as well as a heart attack, after having been tased numerous times at the
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base of my skull, as well as being severely beaten. at that point, the congressman turned away from me, pulled out his cell phone. looked like he was attempting to pull up, like, an audio-recording app on his phone. and again, like, never acknowledged me, at any point. as soon as the elevator doors open, he ran, as quickly as he could, like a coward. >> and no story about congressman clyde is complete, without reminding you that is him, on january 6th, s spot shadowed. literally, barricading the door from the mob, hiding from the mob. concerned about, scared by the mob. knowing that his life and others were in danger. from violent supporters of the president he supports, still. now, that guy is pretending they weren't really any different than tourists visiting the capitol. there is, also, news about senator ron johnson, today, another profile in courage. he, the wasn't a real insurrection because the attackers didn't have firearms
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jive. well, just today, wouldn't you know it, one of the attackers was charged with bringing a firearm to the capitol on january 6th. not that it matters much, anyway, given that the attackers weaponize anything they could get their hands on to beat multiple officers to within inches of their lives. sticks, pipes, flagpoles, tasers, as you just heard from officer fanone. batons. you name it. they used it, all. so, senator johnson is lying, and he knows it. so does kevin mccarthy, of course, the top-house republican. he knows what the insurrection truly was, and on whose behalf it was carried out. and we know he knows it cause he said so. >> the president bears responsibility for wednesday's attack on congress by mob rioters. he should have, immediately, denounced the mob when he saw what was unfolding. >> a short time after he said that, though, after traveling mar-a-lago to kiss the former president's ring or an equivalent thereof, he, too, began whitewashing what happened.
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he purged liz cheney, the only republican house leader who saw the insurrection for what it was. and let a thousand crazy-conspiracy flowers bloom from what used to be the fringe of his party but is now the face of it. matt gaetz is now retweeting a new theory being peddled on fox news that fbi operatives organized and participated in the attack. so, of course, did marjorie taylor greene. congressman paul gosar is claiming federal officials incited it and says that a qanon follower killed in the attack was executed by law enforcement. their leader, kevin mccarthy, tolerates it all. and sets the example. he's set the bar pretty high there. here's what he said about president biden at the summit in geneva. and, spoiler alert, it is, also, a lie. and he knows it. quoting from a portion of mccarthy's statement yesterday, he said president biden should have used today's summit to stand up for our national interests. and send a message to the world, the united states will hold russia accountable for its long list of transgressions. unfortunately, president biden gave vladimir putin a pass.
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now, look. you can agree or disagree with the president's russia policy. i'm -- we're not -- i'm not here to support any political party's policies. you can raise questions about how the president plans to confront russia. you can raise questions about how the president plans to contain the threat that russia poses to this country and to our allies. you can raise all kinds of issues, that reasonable people, of all foreign policy and national security persuasions might differ on. but congressman mccarthy did not do that, in that quote. he just lied, and he lied really, i mean, stupidly. because whatever else president biden did when it comes to the congressman's, quote, long list of transgressions. it's obviously clear that he did not give putin a pass. >> how could i be the president of the united states of america, and not speak out against the violation of human rights? i pointed out to him that that's why we're going to raise our concerns about cases, like
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alexei navalny. and i raised the case of two wrongfully-imprisoned american citizens. paul whelan and trevor reid. i made it clear that we will not tolerate attempts to violate our democratic sovereignty or destabilize our democratic elections, and we would respond. i communicated the united states' unwavering commitment to the sovereignty and territorial integrity of ukraine. i pointed out to him, we have significant cybercapability. and he knows it. he doesn't know exactly what it is but it's significant. and if, in fact, they violate these basic norms, we will respond. cyber. he knows. >> and kevin mccarthy, also, knows. and by the way, kevin mccarthy, critiquing president biden for, in his words, giving putin a pass at the summit, is so brazenly hypocritical that it almost makes you impressed by his complete lack of shame. i mean, we have seen a president give vladimir putin a pass at a summit, in front of cameras, on live television.
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it was the guy who is now wasting away in mar-a-lagoville, to quote jim acosta. let's, just for reference, look at the tape. the former president with putin in helsinki after being asked about the assessment by america's own intelligence professionals, including his hand-picked director of national intelligence, dan coats. did russia interfere in the 2016 election? >> my people came to me. dan coats came to me and some others. they said they think it's russia. i have president putin. he just said it's not russia. i will say this. i don't see any reason why it would be. >> that was in 2018 and, at the time, congressman mccarthy was a functioning adult with a working set of ears, by all accounts. also, a memory. but irony is dead. so is shame, apparently. but lying? that is alive and well and it's all part of a scheme to get the public accustomed to even more lies down the road. to show their supporters they can lie with impunity and demoralize anyone who still believes that, in the public arena, the simple truth can, still, prevail.
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joining us, now, is sandra garza, life partner of capitol police officer, brian sicknick, who was pepper sprayed, battedled rioters for hours, and died the next day. sandra, first of all, i am sorry that we are talking under these circumstances. um, when you continue to see all of these efforts to -- to whitewash, to diminish what happened on january 6th. the suggestion that these folks were just walking between the -- the -- the velvet ropes in the statuary hall and acting like tourists. as someone who is, still, in the midst of deep grief and -- and profound loss. how do you -- how do you tolerate that? >> well, anderson, first, i want to thank you, so much, for having me on your show. and it's very difficult. it makes me incredibly angry, which is why i continue to speak out. it enrages me that they continue to gaslight their supporters.
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and they're not doing the right thing. that is the thing that upsets me the most. they're all have an opportunity to do the right thing by not only their constituents but the american people, as a whole. what happened on january 6th should unite us, as americans. and they're not doing that. and it disgusts me. it's despicable. and it needs to stop. >> these 21 republicans who voted against awarding the congressional gold medal to the capitol police and the metropolitan police force. what do you say to them? i mean, what -- you know, it's -- i -- we keep showing these pictures because i feel like people should see the faces of these people who, you know, are not willing to -- to honor heroes. because a lot of these folks, louie gohmert, and others, you know, claim to be big supporters of police. >> right. right. well, it's, like i said, it's
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despicable. and they're all cowards. they could never do what the officers did that day. and i think, you know, that we were talking about, in the intro, about representative clyde saying, oh, it was tourists that day. and then, there's photos of him barricading the door with the desk with his colleagues. i mean, clearly, he was terrified. and, you know, it's -- it's despicable. they need to, you know, i loved what you said earlier on, too. about them kissing donald trump's ring. if they're going to kiss anybody's rings, it should be the officers that were there, that day, that saved their butts. that's what they need to be doing. and i don't know how they can look at themselves, in the mirror, every day. i don't know how they can sleep at night. it's -- it's unbelievable. and it's disgusting. >> and you talk about the congressman being terrified. he should have been terrified. it was a terrifying situation. i'm sure, a lot of the police officers that day were terrified. i mean, this is something we
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have not seen, in this country, you know, in this way. and for those officers, it -- i mean, you see that video that was just, you know, released today. that -- it's terrifying. >> right. >> and yet, they stood there. you know, congressman clyde was terrified and was escorted out to safety, by officers. the police officers had to stay there. and -- and -- and confront their terror. >> that's right. that's right. you know, i love maya angelou's quote. she says when someone shows you who they are, believe them. this is who they are. how he treated officer fanone yesterday is who he is. what he's doing, what they're all doing, and saying, is who they are. i don't know how people can continue to support them after their doing this. last year, they were up in arms and very upset and, you know,
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screaming that they supported the police. and yet, now, they're, you know, stepping all over the police. and it's -- you know, i -- i -- it's -- it's gross. it's disgusting. you know, and like i said, i think it was last week. you know, by all rights, they don't deserve the protection of capitol police or any law enforcement, for that matter. if they're going to behave this way. it's -- it's really terrible. >> you know, and we live in -- in this time, now, where people don't disagree just, you know, for that they have different-political views. and -- and beliefs. and they disagree on policy issues and they debate it and they figure out a way to move forward. now, everybody demonizes the other person. everybody demonizes the -- the people who disagree with them, as being unamerican or unpatriotic or enemies. and yet, it's very easy to kind of make everything a divide between republicans and democrats in this country.
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but, you know, from my understanding, you and -- and officer sicknick were actually supporters of the former president, at one time. and -- and i don't want to bring politics into this. but it's important, just to -- to reaffirm that this is not about democrats looking to score political points. this is -- you know, this is real life. and you -- you -- you are a real person and officer sicknick, you know, was a real person, beyond just a police officer doing a heroic job. if you could speak to the man you once supported, the former president, what would you want to say to him right now? >> well, you know, like i'd said before, i would be willing to meet with him. and it would be to give him the tough questions. i mean, i shouldn't have to read -- reach out to donald trump. he should be reaching out to me. he was the former president. he should be reaching out to me.
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you know? i have a lot of questions. i deserve answers. i supported him, for various reasons. clearly, that's out the window now. and i want to educate as many people as i can that all of the things that he talked about, as far as loving america. wanting to keep america great. supporting the police. all of this stuff is not true. i'm a real person. i was living my life, doing my job. living in anonymity. and because i lost someone very important to me, due to the events of january 6th, it's forced me -- well, i shouldn't say force -- i'm here willingly. but i'm here to come out to say this is wrong. this should not have happened. he is the mastermind. yes, those people made choices that day. the people that committed violence made choices.
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we are, all, responsible for the individual choices that we make. but donald trump was the mastermind of that day. and it -- it angered me when i saw articles or people saying that i was giving him a pass. i would never give him a pass. but what i'm trying to do is educate people that this is not loving america. what happened on january 6th is far from it. i mean, those people were out there with american flags, blue line flags, beating officers. you know, doing terrible things to them. and -- and he has the audacity to say, in north carolina at that rally that he was at, that he loves america? he's not loving america. he's not trying to unite america. the other thing he said, that really upset me, was he had the audacity to say, i love my family. i love my grandchildren. well, what about my loved one?
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what about gladys and chuck's son? what about officer smith's family? officer liebengood's family? what about all of the children of the officers that were there, that day, that fought, valiantly, that have to deal with nightmares and flashbacks and physical injuries that are, still, unhealed. and the unseen injuries. you know, an officer lost an eye. that's -- that eye isn't coming back. officers that lost fingers. those aren't coming back. does he care about them? you know, that's loving america. caring about the people that you are overseeing. so, you know, i really want to, you know, have my voice out there to say he is not somebody who symbolizes loving america. he is far from it. and i want people to know that you don't have to go with the trump clan to perpetuate this because that's what is going to happen. this is not loving america. we want to, you know, unite
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america. and have people come together. and, you know, we already have to work about -- worry about foreign terrorists. and -- and what he is doing is he is having his cronies on capitol hill further divide americans. that's not what we want. >> yeah. sandra, i mean, i -- i hate that you are in a position, where you need to speak out. but you are in that position. and -- and you are speaking, incredibly eloquently and powerfully, not just for yourself. >> thank you. >> but for -- for your loved one. for officer sicknick, who is no longer here and for others who are not -- who can't speak out. so, i appreciate you being with us tonight. and i am sure you're getting threats. i'm sure you are getting people intimidating you. we've seen the parents of children at -- at -- at sandy hook who, for years, have been intimidated by people, simply because they lost a loved one. they lost their child. and they have been harassed for -- for years and years and
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years. and i -- i hope it's not happening to you, but i'm -- i'm -- i'm -- from what i understand, it probably is and i just wish you strength in the face of all of this. >> anderson, can i say one more thing, very quickly? >> sure, of course. >> i -- i am being harassed. i have seen terrible things written about me online. and, you know, trump supporters are saying i'm getting paid for these interviews. i i'm not getting paid a dime. i don't have to get paid to do the right thing. i don't have to get paid to get justice for someone i loved, very much. and for the people that are continuing to suffer, today, because of january 6th. but i will say this. no one is going to intimidate me or to shut me up. so i would really appreciate you allowing me to be a voice not just for brian but for everybody else who suffered on that tragic day. thank you so much. >> sandra garza, thank you. coming up next. confronting some of the lies about president biden at the
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summit. and new word from vladimir putin suggesting even he doesn't believe some of the falsehoods his own state media is spreading about what happened. later, can democrats agree among themselves on key voting rights legislation? we will ask a colleague of senator joe manchin who offered up a compromise, today. and you need it here. and here. and here. which is why the scientific expertise that helps operating rooms stay clean is now helping the places you go every day too. seek a commitment to clean. look for the ecolab science certified seal. go with simparica trio it's triple protection made simple! simparica trio is the first and only monthly chewable that covers heartworm disease, ticks and fleas, round and hookworms. dogs get triple protection in just one simparica trio!
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ended up opening her own restaurant in san francisco. paralee wharton elder, lupe gonzalez, mary sawyers, margaret ross. there's a lot of life that she lived. who are the strong women in your family? this notion kevin mccarthy has about president biden flubbing it at the summit, which he we mentioned at the top would come as news to the white house, also to vladimir putin. joining us now with more on both angles, cnn's kaitlan collins at the white house. so, kaitlan, what is the white house saying tonight? >> they feel like it was the good outcome. the outcome they wanted and there weren't any surprises they had not seen on the horizon going into president biden's first trip abroad. but they are responding directly to kevin mccarthy and that's coming from jake sullivan, who is president biden's national-security adviser. and he was asked about this allegation from mccarthy that
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essentially biden gave putin a pass by appearing on a world stage with him. shaking hands with him. having these meetings. and sullivan was saying that the proof that that's not true is in the fact that biden did push putin on things like human rights, alexei navalny, the detaining of americans on false premises. and, of course, on election interference and these ransomware and cyberattacks that we've seen. maybe, they didn't get to a resolution of those. but he is saying at least he did push him on them. and jake sullivan really kind of summed it up by saying he did not side with, essentially, the kremlin. and their denials of election interference over u.s.-intelligence agencies on the world stage like we saw trump do. and of course, when that happened, so many republicans, including kevin mccarthy, were silent about the president's behavior. but i do think that there are questions to be raised about what biden's russia strategy is going to be, anderson. >> sure. >> things like, when he is waving those sanctions on the company behind nord stream 2, that empowers russia.
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ukraine has complained about it and said it's essentially a loss for them, that biden is doing that. but when they are coming from people like kevin mccarthy, i think, often, they do fall on deaf ears. given the way that mccarthy and other republicans looked the other way when trump was president. >> yeah. i main, there is completely reasonable criticisms one can make vis-a-vis russia on any issue. but the idea that kevin mccarthy is an honest, you nknow, observr of this. given his complete fawning for the former president, who did russia's president a pass. and kevin mccarthy never said that about the former president. what is vladimir putin, now, saying? >> he is actually making some interesting remarks today. because, you know, going into this summit, there were so many tensions not just between the u.s. and russia but also between biden and putin given that biden called him a killer and you saw putin respond saying essentially the u.s. president is also a killer, murderous, those kind of comments he was making. today, though, he is saying this idea that russian-state media
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has been pushing in the last several weeks and months that biden is out of depth is wrong. and he gave this -- these remarks today praising biden at length and talking about him. and in part, he said, quote, mr. biden is a professional and you need to be very careful when working with him, so as not to miss something. he, himself, does not miss a thing, i assure you. and this was absolutely clear to me. so, putin there, taking statements that his own media, his state-owned media has pushed that they're wrong. but i think just because putin is saying this does not mean things are all rosy in that relationship between the u.s. and russia has changed. i think it has deteriorated to a low point. and both leaders acknowledged that going into this summit. and they did not come to a conclusion or resolution on a lot of the issues between them. or really, any of them. very few, concrete, tangible outcomes coming out of this. but i do think it speaks to maybe they are trying to blunt this downward spiral the u.s.-russia relationship was on. but really, anderson, only time
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will tell. >> kaitlan collins, appreciate it. thanks. perspective now from congressman adam schiff. chairman schiff, i just want to start with your reaction to this newly-released footage of the insurrection released by the justice department. do you think we will have -- i mean, i doubt it will have any impact on your republican colleagues who fcontinue to try to downplay what happened that day. >> it won't have an impact on them. look. they know the truth. but they feel, for whatever reason, that aligning themselves with the president lies is the future of their party and it's incredibly destructive. we really depend on two functional parties in the country. we only have one. and we have a cult of personality around the former president. but still, makes a difference, anderson, because the public sees it. and a great-many americans have come to believe the lies of the former president. and the lies of kevin mccarthy and others. and seeing this footage. and seeing how these capitol police officers were brutalized and -- and the realization that some of those that were doing the brutalizing are former
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military, foreign-police officers. it's -- it's a rude awakening for everyone. but hopefully, it will, also, help people see the lies of the former president. >> you know, back in the old days of the soviet union, it was a common tactic of soviet leaders and the soviet government to try to, obviously, sow division in the united states. and to latch onto disagreements in the united states. and sort of, use those as a wedge to try to, you know, gain some influence. or effect -- effect policies here. vladimir putin's essentially now doing the same thing. only, he is parroting what gop lawmakers have been saying in terms of trying to whitewash the insurrection. i mean, did you ever think a major-political party, the republican party in this country, would be on the same page as the russian president when it came to an insurrection on the u.s. capitol? >> no, i certainly didn't but you are absolutely right. the russians and the soviets, before them, have a long history of sowing discord in the united states. and i never thought i would see
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a situation where some of our political leaders would be in lockstep with them. really, attacking the foundation of our -- our government. and -- and pushing out the lies that are aligned with kremlin lies. but, look. the -- the -- the paramount example of that was the former president telling bill o'reilly when he was asking the, why can't you criticize putin, the man is a killer. and his response was, well, are we so different? that was, i think, the quintessential example of american-political leaders in the gop adopting kremlin propaganda, themselves. so it's not new to the gop. but it -- it's new, since the election of donald trump. >> and i mean, again, i just -- the shamelessness of kevin mccarthy. with zero irony. saying that, you know, critiquing president biden as having given vladimir putin a pass at the summit in geneva. i mean, he's -- you know, he stood there while the -- the former president stood onstage
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with vladimir putin and gave him a pass. not only a pass but a pat on the back. >> you're absolutely right. i mean, kevin mccarthy was made for a period like this. where there is no truth. facts don't matter. you can just simply say whatever you want. but it's hard to find a more-clear example of this than, you know, the mute kevin mccarthy, who while the former president of the united states stood shoulder to shoulder with vladimir putin, praising the kremlin dictator. praising the kremlin murderer. and taking his side over our own-u.s. intelligence agencies, who was mute. to now, find criticism with the next president who stood up to putin. called him out on his interference in our election. the same thing prior president had denied. called him out on his adventurism and invasion of ukraine as well as the cyberattacks emanating from russian soil. violations of human rights. the poisoning of navalny. so, you know, look. i think, biden hit all the right points.
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i think we were right to go into this summit, with modest expectations. it wasn't going to be a big breakthrough. but from my point of view, just having a president act like a president, upholding our values and our interests. was awfully refreshing after the last four years. >> i am wondering if you have learned anything more about what we learned -- i guess, it was two weeks ago or so or a week ago -- that the justice department, under former-president trump, secretly seized personal-communications data from house intelligence committee member, including yourself. have you learned any more about the -- the size? the scope of any accountability that may be in the pipeline? >> you know, i learned a little more since then. only because we learned of additional people that have had their records subpoenaed, in this way. because a lot of people, anderson, thought it was spam coming into their e-mail accounts. and this is, you know, one of the concerns we have, which is that we needed to learn about this from a generic e-mail from apple. rather than the justice department coming forward and saying, hey, look.
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this is what was going on during the trump era. we want to let you know about this. it was wrong. we are going to prevent this from happening, again. but i will say this. >> wait. wait. you learned about it from apple? >> oh, yeah. yeah. >> so, wait. so the government didn't inform you? you just got a -- an e-mail from apple saying, oh, by the way, this happened? >> yes. the first i learned that my records had been sought by the justice department was when apple said, you know, sent me an e-mail and i am lucky that i didn't overlook it. but, you know, that, frankly, this is just a very small part of a much-larger problem. over the last four years, the department of justice was horribly politicized. they intervened on the president's behalf to make criminal cases go away, like that involving michael flynn who, twice, pled guilty to lying to federal authorities. they moved to reduce the sentence of other people who lied for the president, like roger stone. >> yeah. >> and now, we learn that they
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were trying to get the justice department, including mark meadows, former president's chief of staff, trying to get the justice department to intervene in overturning election. >> yeah. >> so, you know, the -- you know, merrick garland's got a big job on his hands to clean up after the last four years. >> congressman schiff, appreciate your time. coming up, west virginia senator joe manchin in the middle of yet another pickly piece of legislation. this time, voting rights. the latest state of play amid the fast-changing landscape infect. next. with extra broccolini. my tuuuurrrrn! tonight...i'll be eating cheesy cauliflower pizza and yummy broccolini! (doorbell rings) thanks. (doorbell rings) thank you. ♪ ♪ is that my leotard? no. yes... ehh, you can keep it.
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west virginia senator joe manchin told his fellow democrats today he wanted some changes in the sweeping voting rights legislation that is emerging as a key litmus test in the senate. manchin's proposal would include -- it's only the latest episode where the senator has found himself either as a key obstacle or key negotiator to his party's ambitions. amy klobuchar is involved in the ongoing talks to find a compromise. she joins me now. senator klobuchar, you co-sponsored the original version of the voting rights bill. i am wondering what you make of the senator's proposed changed and where things stand on the bill right now? >> joe manchin is coming at this, with good faith, anderson.
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obviously, i like the original bill. i'm the chair of the rules committee. we have gotten that in the place where it could come to the floor. and now, we're talking to joe. and people should know that there are a number of the provisions that he has proposed. that would be really good for the country, when you see over 400 bills introduced to suppress the vote. and to really stop people's freedom to vote. number one, as you mentioned, the early voting. two weeks early. that gets at what's going on in georgia where they are trying to mess around with people's right to vote on the weekend. i think that's why you see stacey abrams and senator warnock believing in the work that joe's doing here and supporting a number of the provisions he's put forth. allowing you to automatically register if you get your license. if you go to a dmv in your state, that would automatically register you. making sure that we do something on dark money in politics. with the disclose act. that is in there. every single word of it.
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something that we worked so hard to get passed so we'd find out who these big-money donors are behind the super pacs. so there is some good things. there is things still being negotiated but the point is we had an excellent discussion today in our caucus. heartfelt about how important this is for america to put some federal standards in place. >> but is there any evidence that this bill, even a modified version, acceptable to senator manchin, would actually get the minimum of ten republican votes needed to break a filibuster? >> i'm not feeling that good about that, anderson. given what mitch mcconnell cynically said today. that he was already opposed to it simply because stacey abrams liked it. you know, but it's as cynical as making voters stand in garbage bags in milwaukee, or one voting drop-off box in texas, harris county, 5 million people. or racist, discriminatory measures that have been passed across the country. and so, i still believe there is a path. my job, this weekend, through
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the weekend, is to work with senator manchin. and jeff merkley and others, as we try to put this -- his thoughts into action here. and find something that works for everyone, across the country. once we get a measure like that, if we can get that done, i think a lot of people didn't think it was possible with senator manchin's announcement last week. but if we get something that works done, then we go from there. and we'll figure out the procedures later. but i think it is really important for the democratic party to stand up against what the republicans are doing here. it is so cynical. >> do you think senator manchin is, you know, if it goes through this negotiation and still there is not enough republican support, that he'd be willing to make some sort of compromise on the filibuster? >> i take every day at a time with voting rights, just as voters do. and i believe that failure is not an option here. what's going on is pure evil. what used to be a bipartisan
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idea and our democracy, that we should be able to vote. it literally being slammed every day. and the opening segment of your show said it all. when we have republicans over in the house that won't even vote for gold medal, congressional medals, for the very officers that defended us and saved our lives. and i wanted to tell sandra, who i have met, officer sicknick's life partner. that i am leading that bill in the senate. it's now headed over to the senate with senator roy blunt. it's a bipartisan effort. and i hope we can prevent what happened in the house with those basically representatives who aren't even respecting the very officers who defended them that day. >> yeah. senator klobuchar, appreciate your time. thank you very much. >> thanks, anderson. up next, a followup to our report last night about the mysterious firm or person conducting arizona's so-called audit, which is anything but. cyber ninjas and how it -- its roots appear to be in florida
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about this company hired to run arizona's so-called audit and why copies of the state's voter data ended up somewhere in montana. at some guy's house. tonight, our kyung lah goes in an entirely different direction, quite literally. seeking more clues in a far-different state about this mysterious company, cyber ninjas, and whether it's, in any way, qualified to actually analyze voting data. >> reporter: why am i in the sarasota business complex chasing an arizona story? we are trying to talk to somebody about cyber ninjas. cyber ninjas. that's the company hired to conduct the so-called audit in arizona. it's the little-known contractor, claiming to be an election-auditing firm. carrying out this much-disputed exercise in maricopa county. the company is being paid 150,000 taxpayer dollars, allocated by the republican-controlled arizona senate. cyber ninjas is headquartered in sarasota. so, we flew the 2,000 miles to florida. our first stop, cyber ninjas'
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legal department. >> suite number 421. >> reporter: the officer listed as a fourth-floor suite is a rented mailbox. inside, a ups store. to the state of florida cyber ninjas operates here, but not really. >> are you familiar with -- with that? >> no, i'm not. >> reporter: this is a registered company, a place that takes official mail and calls. they list this as their office. >> i know but it -- if they are one of our clients, i can't give out any information. >> reporter: we find one other address that cyber ninjas used to get a $98,000 ppp loan from the federal government last year. there's nothing inside. cyber ninjas left a month after the november 2020 election. >> thank you for calling cyber ninjas. >> reporter: no one ever answers the official-business phone number. and every extension you press gets you to only one ninja. >> please, leave a message for
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doug logan. doug logan. >> reporter: doug logan. >> reporter: doug logan is the ceo of cyber ninjas and led pennsylvania legislators through the audit floor. lawmakers from a dozen other states have followed. logan oversees the daily process of the exercise. but there is a major problem says tony summerlin who has known logan for 15 years working together in cyber technology. >> he has absolutely no background or skills in the area. he is very smart. but doing an election audit is not the same as doing a cyber audit. he has gone way beyond studying a machine's software. >> reporter: summerlin said he tried to talk logan oust the arizona audit. >> it scares me someone that thoughtful, that nice, and that bright would fall into this pit. >> reporter: the pit says summerlin includes what the daily beast and arizona mirror dug up. logan has now deleted conspiratorial tweets and retweets about a stolen election logan also told the arizona mirror he wrote this document
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riddled with lies, like voting machines tied to venezuela's hugo chavez, who, by the way, died eight years ago. >> i either laugh or i cry, depending on the day. mostly laugh just because that is my personality. it is disappointing, all disappointing. >> reporter: steven richard is the maricopa county recorder, who along with the board of supervisors was subpoenaed by the senate to hand over the 2020 ballots. >> nobody would have said that is the group we're going with. it is facially absurd. you start asking why did they choose that group? did they choose this group because they knew they would play indicate very specific actors who are connected to the stop the steal movement? did they choose this group because they knew they'd provide the results they want? >> reporter: logan never did call us back to answer those questions but he has defended himself in his one and only public press conference. >> i know you guys want to pace me like some bad guy in here. i'm involved in this and putting everything on the line with my company because i care about our country. otherwise who would be stupid
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enough to walk into this? every individual that walks into any election integrity thing gets butchered by everybody. >> and kyung lah joins us now. i mean, i don't even know where to begin with your trip to florida. this is unbelievable. the p.o. box, the empty offices. i know they dress -- maybe they're really like ninjas so you can't even see them in the office. i mean it's like -- it's fascinating. do you have any indication where the story may take you next? what do we know about -- i mean, can't they just come up with any results that they want and just announce those results and there is no way to actually check, is there? >> no. there is no way to check. because it has been so opaque. it is supposed to end as far as this paper analysis on june 26th. but again, this doesn't impact the 2020 election because the election is already certified.
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then the report, how are we going to verify it? part of the reason why gary went to montana and why i went to florida is because we are trying to bring some transparency, trying to figure out what is happening here? but the more you look into it, the more strange it becomes. >> yeah, there is a guy in montana at his house who has all these ballots, or copies of them, and who knows what he is doing with them. kyung lah, i appreciate it. thank you very much. unbelievable. well, actually, very believable. up next, a significant victory for the biden administration and obamacare at the supreme court today. details and what is likely ahead when we continue. it's the biggest thing that ever happened to small. lease the gla 250 suv for just $399 a month at your local mercedes-benz dealer.
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adviser to president obama and jeef cnn analyst jeffrey toobin. david, you wrote that you had cried when the affordable care act passed back in 2010. as someone who spent so much time with president obama working to pass that law, what is your reaction to what the supreme court has ruled? >> relief. it was a little anticlimactic because most people deadduced deduced from the arguments earlier in the year that the affordable care act would survive. but still, this was the last major challenge in terms of throwing the whole act out. that was what was being asked. there are some other legal issues that are rooting around out there that may still surface. i think this was a watershed event. for all of the people who have benefited from the law and all of the people who will, i feel a great sense of relief. the reason i wept was because i had my own battles with the health care system when i have a child with a chronic illness, epilepsy, pre-existing condition. and it was hell to deal with the
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insurance companies and all of the problems that entails. i thought about all the folks who won't have to do that because of this law. and it makes me very, very happy. >> jeff, if the court invalidated the affordable care act there are 31 million americans who have health coverage through that. would they have just lost it? is there any chance because this was a ruling based on standing it might come back to the supreme court? >> you bet they would have lost it and they would have lost it within days as soon as this decision went into effect. the stakes in this case, we talk about it in terms of abstractions. like standing. it was life or death for people whether pre-existing conditions were going to be covered, whether parents could cover their kids on insurance through age 26. all of that would have gone out the window with no substitute if the plaintiffs had won the case. now, it is true as we've pointed out that this decision was not on the merits of the claim. it was a procedural exit.
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but if you read the opinion, i think it comes down to a single word, enough. enough with the existential challenges to the affordable care act. this is the third one in the supreme court by 7-2 with four republican justices, including clarence thomas in the majority. they are not going to strike down this law again. >> wow. >> even with all the challenges. >> so you think the challenges are over? >> i don't think the challenges are over. the supreme court is still interpreting the civil rights act of 1964 and the voting rights act. there is a lot of interpretation that will go on but the idea the supreme court will simply say, the affordable care act is off the books, i think those kinds of challenges are not going to be heard by the court any more. this law is here to stay. how it is interpreted, whether it is expanded, all of that remains up for grabs.
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