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there have been a lot of images from the rioters. along with the videos of rioters, one of them has been of police officer eugene goodman running up a staircase leading rioters away from members of congress. the men and women that he was sworn and assigned to protect. since then lawmakers have voted to award he and other officers medals for their service. and tonight officer goodman was given this honor as well. he threw out the ceremonial first pitch at tonight's washington national baseball game against the new york mets. >> i hear it's really hard to do that. the news continues. let's hand it over to michael smerconish in for chris. >> how cool is that image?

i am michael smerconish in for chris cuomo, and welcome to "prime time." and also the first official juneteenth federal holiday in our nation's history. complete with its own flag hoisted in places like wisconsin today. the single white star symbolizing texas where the last enslaved people in this country were told they were free and the freedom of all african-americans in this country. and it was a texas lawmaker today who reminded us while one battle is finished others are in limbo right now in congress. >> we steadfastly worked day after day for 12 years and it says that you voted for this holiday, now you can vote for the george floyd justice in policing act. you can fix the voting system to give us voting rights to protect against those voter suppression laws. >> but the sweeping voting rights bill s1, it's frozen. while moderate senator joe

manchin waves the flag of bipartisanship, the fate of his new slimmed down counter proposal to his fellow democrats might be an already forgone conclusion. that's because mitch mcconnell once again seems more intent on acting like a blockade. >> equally unacceptable. totally inappropriate. all republicans i think will oppose that as well if that were to be -- surface on the floor. >> yet manchin's counter is gaining traction on the left with voting rights advocate stacey abrams. she's signaling possible one openness to his call for a voter i.d. requirement. >> what senator manchin is putting forward are some basic building blocks that we need to ensure that democracy is accessible no matter your geography. our point is simply that the restrictions on the forms of id should meet the needs of the people and what he is proposing makes sense. >> abrams voice of course matters but she's not in congress. even if manchin could get his

entire party on board with his change, that only gets the democrats to 50 votes. ten shy where this is not a matter of reconciliation. so what is this really all about? to put up a good showing and still lose so that the public sees gop obstruction on another major issue like the june 6th commission? or is it deeper? that this time it will be a manchin initiative that fails so that he experiences the result firsthand perhaps softening him on the filibuster? is there a bigger objective here? the biden administration has a vested interest as well because this is proof that outside of reconciliation they can't get anything done and the clock is ticking towards the mid terms. which might make matters even worse. with me tonight another prominent voice in the voting rights battle, farmer democratic congressman and presidential candidate beto o'rourke. thank you for being here. you heard my objection joe

manchin gets you to 50 but he doesn't get you to 60. what's really the purpose? >> well, i like the progress that we've seen so far this week. i mean, the news story prior to this week was that joe manchin was a no on the for the people act, the major voting rights bill before the senate. now he's back at the table and he's talking and negotiating and he's saying some things that are fundamental to the voting rights bill that passed the house. that's a good sign. so let's see what happens on tuesday when the senate takes its first procedural vote from the for the people act. let's not just wait to see what happens after that, let's continue to push those senators. it's why we are rallying at the texas capital this sunday, 5:30 p.m. in austin. we want to get as many texans together where we are at the front lines in this fight for voting rights and push not just the state senators, push the u.s. senators who have the power to save democracy at a time that's under attack unlike any other time in american history. >> i'm trying to unpeel this onion, and what occurs to me is that maybe the objective this time is that it will be a joe manchin initiative on the receiving end of this sort of a failed vote. maybe then the purpose is if he

feels the sting, he'll re-evaluate his position vis-a-vis the filibuster. how does that sound to you? >> that might very well happen. you go back to the voting rights act of 1965 and, you know, before that was presented to congress i think the conventional political wisdom was it would never get past sorensen nate democrats and house democrats but when enough people stood up, stepped out, spoke out it began to move the country. kind of engaged the conscience of america, none more so than john lewis trying to cross the edmund pettis bridge in march of 1965. and lbj actually refers to that speaking in that joint session of congress encouraging them to move forward on this. i think what stacey abrams is doing nationally by asking us all to call our u.s. senators, what we're trying to do in texas

by engaging the state in the massive rally on sunday at the capitol, what folks are doing across the country, that's the kind of pressure that will help to move something because as you suggested at the outset, it's not enough to have a show or a symbolic vote. if we don't pass this, it's existential. you will lose the right to vote in states like texas where it is already harder to vote than in any other state in the union. they literally, michael, i know you know it, included in our elections bill that is included is a provision that will allow the state to overturn elections based simply on the allegation of fraud. that is no longer a democracy and the for the people act can stop that. >> what causes me to think in these terms, congressman, is that leaked audio. the intercept had it this week where senator manchin was heard on a call and he suggested an openness.

let's listen together. >> i look at '73. 67 votes to 60 votes. i'm open to looking at it. i'm just not open to getting rid of the filibuster. right now 60 is where i'm planting my flag. but i'm going to protect this filibuster. we're looking at good solutions. >> what he's saying he's open to is the idea of reducing that number from 60 to something less as in the past it happened when the number was 67. so maybe if all of a sudden it's a joe manchin compromise that's on the receiving end of a no vote from all the republicans, maybe there's movement on the filibuster. >> you know, at some point, michael, it's going to come down

to this question. is it going to be the filibuster or democracy? because it's looking like, as i count the votes in the senate, that you can't have both. and i know that senator manchin believes in this country's right to vote, and i know that he said inaction is not an option. so i'd like to think that i know that he'll do the right thing when that choice becomes that clear. we're going to have to see what happens this week when the senate begins voting. look, i think all of us who care about democracy can't sit back and watch. this is not a spectator sport and the fight for democracy will not be air conditioned. you have to get out there, march, protest, rally. you have to get in the faces peacefully and nonviolently and make sure they do the right thing. 245 years of this experiment, there's nothing that guarantees us another year or another 245 for that matter. it's on the line. it's this summer.

it's really an all or nothing proposition. so we're all going to do our part here in texas. i feel like we've done as much as you can ask us to do. now the senate needs to do theirs. >> are you accepting of the compromise that he's put forth? i'll put up on the screen some of the critical components of it. make election day a holiday. universal democratic acceptance. mandate 15 consecutive days of early voting. how about this, require voter id with allowable alternatives, utility bill, et cetera. how does congressman beto o'rourke feel about that? >> well, that would be an improvement over what we have in texas where you can use your license to carry a firearm to prove who you are at the polling place but you can't use your student i.d. or utility bill to prove who you are at the polling place. it's better than what we have and it's not as far as i would like it to go. what's missing is automatic voter registration and same-day

voter registration. there were 7 million texans who didn't vote many registered or with other barriers in place. the other thing i would add is getting the power of big corporate donations out of our politics by elevating the power of everyday citizens to donate and have that matched at the federal level. that ensures that, you know, insurgent candidates have a chance to challenge the incumbents. those who are locked into their positions can be effectively competed against. when you add non-partisan redistricting commissions so there's no more gerrymandering, that's a reference in his compromise, then you really begin to approach a level playing field in our elections going forward. i see some good things in there but i'd like to see much more progress than that going forward. >> and finally, senator mcconnell i think believes he has a winning issue when he presents this as the federalizing of the running of elections. traditionally a very local practice. your thought on that is what? >> that was exactly the argument

in 1965 but luckily logic prevailed and we understood as a country you can't trust mississippi and georgia and texas to guarantee the right to vote to black citizens because they were denying it in practice and in outcome. so you the' get the '65 voting rights act, yes, federal mandates that affect how the state-run elections are held. there's a long standing precedent to that. at this moment that we face the second emergence of jim crow, we need to meet it with the force that we did with the first jim crow. a voting rights act of our time. that's the for the people act. the senate must pass that. >> appreciate your being here. i'm convinced there's more afoot than just a vote that perhaps is going to take place as soon as tuesday. congressman o'rourke, i appreciate your time. >> thank you so much. even more disturbing new video now coming out of the capitol riot. hard to watch. trump supporters taunting, stalking, even punching

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let's discuss with natasha alford and charlie dent. back in the days when i was a republican the party boasted of its status of being supportive of law enforcement. what happened? >> well, michael, me, too. i was always endorsed by the police and state troopers association. i was always proud of those endorsements. i still think most republicans will receive those types of endorsements, but given what happened in recent days with that vote and with, you know, a lack of defense of law enforcement with respect to january 6th i think it certainly ta tarnishes many republican images with the law enforcement community. it's a problem. i am, frankly, stunned so many will yell about funding the police but -- >> natasha, i don't get the drip, drip release of these

videos. i know that cnn has been very aggressive in trying to get it all into the public domain. it does make me wonder if we had seen all of this imagery back at the time of the impeachment vote would it have mattered, would it have changed anything? >> unfortunately, i don't think it would have changed anything. and that's because so many members of the gop are loyal to whatever keeps them in power. and in this case it was supporting a narrative that donald trump did nothing wrong, that he was only fighting for freedom. and so many of their constituents are these individuals who are rioters who see themselves as freedom fighters. and i'm sorry, when i look at that video i'm terrified. that is someone who's juiced up on conspiracy theories and someone who thinks that there are no consequences, essentially that he can be violent and he will be protected.

and so i think it's that ideology that these folks see themselves as patriots doing the bidding of what it takes to protect american democracy that allows them to continue this lie, and it allows the gop to come around them and play along. >> so i was watching wolf blitzer earlier today, and wolf was interviewing our colleague drew griffon talking about his special that will air on sunday night all about the events of january 6th. and they ran a piece of tape that i think had a most telling comment by someone who allegedly reportedly was caught up in this high jinx. i want to roll the tape and then make a comment about it. do it. >> i'm with cnn. >> man, i'm good. >> i've been talking to your mom and your sister. they mention you might want to say something to us about -- >> about what? >> about your case and whether or not you feel bad about it. >> i feel bad about my case?

>> you feel bad about what you did? >> well, actually the things i did i was hanging out with some of the wrong people it feels like, but i didn't really do anything. so i feel pretty good my case is going to come out and show that. >> do you feel like you were mipped into going into the capitol? >> no, i've got nothing to say to you. i don't watch your garbage anyway. >> it's the last line i wanted to play, he doesn't watch our garbage. and it's telling half the country, right, is watching an outlet where they don't show this footage. so we look at it, charlie dent, and we say holy crap, like who could tolerate that? that guy, by the way, is a former marine. and half the country i think is oblivious to what we are watching routinely. charlie, you go first. >> sure, michael, what's so scary about all of this is there's so many people in our country right now who don't

believe that our democratic process is fair or legitimate. and because too many elected officials have denied what happened on january 6th, i fear that many americans will simply say that all elections are rigged, and because of this the public confidence has been undermined in our democratic process. that's what's happened here. and you're right. we have a tribal society. you know, people get their information from the sources that they're comfortable with, and that reinforced they're existing opinions or biases. and that's what's happening. but there's not an agreed upon set of facts anymore or agreed upon truths,icidely. >> natasha, that is my point that we're so siloed, so hunkered down with adherence to particular outlets, unless you're clicking around, you're not getting the whole story. >> yes. and i think certain outlets play to us being siloed. you know, there's a saying that he who controls the media controls the message and

controls the minds, right? so the folks who are withholding this information, who are spinning the narrative and trying to convince people that they have legitimate protests, there was actually a poll that said that there was a 47% of republicans thought that this was a legitimate protest even though we saw bloodshed and we saw people losing their lives. so if you're able to repeat a lie again and again people will continue to believe it. and what is so disappointing is that politicians, elected leaders are complicit in this. rather than, you know, being independent and sort of being those protect uzof democracy over party they're willing to go along with the lie in pursuit of power. >> i'm not defending any of the conduct, but when i look at their faces i think they believe they are washington crossing the delaware in revolutionary times. natasha alford, thank youing so much. charlie dent, as always good to

see you. cnn also has new details about what happened on january 6th. as i just mentioned drew griffon interviews those who were at the capitol for a special report, assault on democracy, the roots of trump's insurrection. it's sunday, 9:00 p.m. eastern. we turn from police officers attacked at the capitol to officers in another city accused of going too far during protests last summer. one has just been indicted after this video surfaced, but his colleagues are taking dramatic action to show their support for him by walking away from their elite unit. the head of the police union is here to defend this drastic step and that's next.

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about 50 police officers in portland have resigned en masse in protest after a fellow officer was indicted for alleged excessive use of force. the officer, cory budworth, was part of a special team responding to demonstrations. video posted on social media shows budworth shoving a photo journalist to the ground and using a baton against her head during a protest last august. a grand jury indicted budworth on a fourth degree battery charge. that's a misdemeanor. portland police union leader darryl turner says political venom demonized these political servants and he joins me now. thank you so much for being

here. i am totally sympathetic to what these cops have had to go through, where 100 straight nights. i read your october letter. mall tav cocktails, fireworks, explosive rocks, bottles, urine, feces, et cetera, et cetera. however, when i see that video i just can't justify it. how can you? >> so i think one of the things you have to understand is we're one of it largest agencies in the country or one of the largest cities in the country who do not supply -- equip their officers with body cameras. so the event is actually longer than what you see. what you see is a short segment of what happened. you don't see the young lady trying to help someone that's being arrested involving criminal activity. you don't see the chaos, the sustained violence not just that night but over 150 days of sustained violence. that was night number 165 or 70

we've been facing night in, night out and other officers have been on the front lines having objects thrown at them, threatening their families and people announcing their home addresses on loud speakers as they stand on the front lines. without any support from our elected officials. as a matter of fact, our elected officials would chastise and criticize our officers on a daily basis. they cannot keep the community safe in a way they should be. when their tools are taken away from them, when the publt to do their job is taken away from them. in this case, again, we have a district attorney who has declined 80% of the criminal activity, 80% of the cases brought to him from a criminal activity during those riots. 80%. >> i accept everything -- i accept everything you're telling me, but it doesn't alter when you subruter as i like to say

the tape. you tell me what we see as i show this to the rest of the country again. play it. there's shot number one. >> i cannot see it. >> oh, okay, you don't have what we call a return. well, there are two uses of the baton. the first knocking her to the ground and then another shot to the head. can that be justified? >> and clearly what the officer articulated in his report that he thought she was going to move in a different direction and it was an accident. so with that said, in the administrative and internal investigations that's where it should be combed out. but it's not malicious, not intentional, and it's not criminal. >> the district attorney said in this case we allege that no legal justification existed for officer budworth's deployment of force and that the deployment of force was legally excessive under the circumstances. i also took a look at the

portland police bureau policy on use of force which says members striking or jabbing with a baton shall not deliberately target the head or throat, neck, spine or groin unless deadly force would be authorized. you and i can agree deadly force would not be authorized in this case, right? >> and as i said the officer admitted it was an accidental strike. as to the area of the body it did hit, he anticipated her trying to stand up again, and she did not. and so like i said in an administrative investigation, in an internal investigation they could comb that out. but is this criminal? no, it's not intentional, not malicious and had no criminal intent whatsoever. this is the same d.a. that doesn't follow the law, like i said again declines 80% of the criminal cases brought to him through those 150 plus days of rioting. and so now on another case where it's clear that it was an accident, the officer wrote in his report, he wrote a report

that night. he didn't try to hide anything. he wrote in a report exactly what he did. there was no hiding what he did. he did not know it was on video until later. it was in conjunction with what the video said. however, that video was taken in short snippet and not a longer one because again our elected officials refused to equip our officers with body cams which would have shown a longer event. >> what about the decision to resign en masse? why not let the process address this? do you think that was a wise move from a public relations standpoint? >> this was not the only incident. like i said and like you said there was a letter that we sent in october stating all the concerns, all the issues that the rapid response team had. they stayed on because they believe vehemently they're there to protect the community. they're to buffer between the rioters and the community. the business owners and the

residents who have been threatening the city. the cities have been boarded up, it has been burned, been looted and they believe they're there to buffer. this is a volunteer unit. this is not a unit that gets paid any extra money. this is a volunteer unit that has the skill and strategic subject matter experts to be able to handle crowd control issues. there's no police agency in the country that dealt with the violence like we did, the sustained level of violence over 150 -- >> i get it. mr. turner, i get it. i've been watching. 3,000 miles away i've been watching it with great admiration for the people who are the thin, blue line. thank you for being here. i appreciate your time. >> thank you very much. >> with three supreme court justices picked by former president trump you might have thought you know where the conservative super majority would go on big cases, but think again. our high court expert is here to show us how some key rulings are

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when justice aimo coney barrett was confirm today the supreme court last summer democrats were all too sure she'd torpedo obamacare and the majority would transform scote s

for good. if yesterday was any indication leaving the affordable care act in place to now ruling on religion freedom it's now within the conservative wing. lets get some perspective. you and i have had conversations in the past about what will kennedy do. it'll be a 5-4 decision but what will anthony kennedy do? i read your great cnn.com piece, and it seems like you believe anthony kennedy's legacy has been replaced by a triumvert. please explain. >> sure. and it's great to be with you on a friday night and not just a saturday morning, michael. i think we're still going to see overall a conservative court because anthony kennedy was to the left of both of these two new justices, aimo coney barrett and brett ckavanaugh. but what these justices are doing now is putting a break on the three conservatives to their

right, clarence thomas, samuel lito and neil gorsuch. these three conservatives who are in the middle and they are all republican appointees, they're all three people who we think would generally be against abortion rights, would generally be against gun control. so they're still conservatives. it's just they don't want to move as fast as the others do. and let's just take these two cases. first of all, the affordable care act challengers really had such a poor case. really many conservatives thought it was never going to fly, and it didn't, not at all. the court outright dismissed it, didn't entertain the questions on the merits. so this was a little bit of an easier one for brett kavanaugh and amy coney barrett and even justice clarence thomas, michael, joined the majority

there to say you challengers from texas and other republican states, you have no injury here. you can't come up and complain about the individual insurance mandate when there's nothing your states have suffered in terms of a loss because of the law now. so that was an easy one to get rid of. but, michael, the one really complicated and different was this religious freedom one. because justices barrett and kavanaugh have both wanted more accommodation for religious believers. >> does the affordable care act, obamacare, end as a trilogy for the supreme court of the united states? or is there some possibility there could be a part 4 in the future? >> oh, yeah. i'll tell you there will always be challenges. there's still challenges percolating up toward the justices. but as far as the supreme court

is concerned, they don't want to see any sort of broad scale challenge for sure. we can say, michael, tonight for our viewers that the act as a whole is here to stay. it's not going to be thrown out in total the way the republican states have been trying for and for what former president donald trump had pushed for. his entire campaign had been built around that back in 2016 so that's not going to happen, but will individual parts be challenged, yes, i'm sure. maybe some things will be picked off, but for right now this law that has had such a sweeping effect, some 31 million more americans getting health insurance, that's here to stay. >> a lot to talk about in the fall with some big cases after they take the summer off to be argued. joan, thank you as always. >> thank you, michael. for the first time new york city changing the way it votes

for mayor. early voting in the primaries now under way and voters are making their decision using a rank choice system. what exactly does that mean? well, instead of voting for a single candidate people can choose up to five candidates in order of preference. our wizard of odds harry henton is here with more. harry, what's the purpose? what is it that people hope this type of system will do? >> they're hoping that it will first save money because there won't be the traditional runoff that you would have when no candidate reaches 40% of the vote, but it's also trying to give more voters more options especially in a primary where major candidates all have similar ideologies certainly compared to republicans, it gives them an opportunity to express their preferences in a more complete way. >> so is there a front-runner, and does that front-runner necessarily benefit from rank choice voting? in other words, maybe you'd rather be everybody's number two on their dance card than a

handful of number one. >> sure, if you look right now at the first choices, we had a marest cleelk poll that came out earlier this week. adams is well out in front of the pack with 28%. and maya wily and andrew yang close behind there at 17% and 15%. what i should point out is pretty much all of the polls have eric adams out in front of the first choice preferences. as you pointed out, michael, we have to go through this entire process. and i'd like to take you through that if we flash forward to slide 2 here. and essentially what they have to do is number one, first voters can rank up to five choices. we mentioned that. the candidate with the lowest vote total after a round is then eliminated. and then voter choices are then allocated to their next highest preference if their current choice is eliminated. and essentially we go through all these different rounds and this process continues until one

candidate has 50% plus one. and as you saw in the slide there's not going to be any candidate that 50% plus one. so this is going to go on and on for a number of rounds. >> unless you think someone very intelligent like harry henton is sitting there with an abacus, it's all done automatically and people only cast that initial ballot and rank their five. it's just going to take a while, perhaps for a tabulation. >> that's exactly right. and look how many rounds that we might have to go through in order to get to this. we have to go all the way to round 12, round 12. and you can see how this works across your screen, right? in round 10 eric adams is at 34% and garcia 24%, and then yang gets eliminated, most of his vote goes to eric adams who jumps up to 43% and then so wily gets eliminated and then in this particular poll eric adams gets

up to 36%. to go back to your first question, could this change the winner? if we go to slide four i think this is rather key. what you see on this slide is all the first round and all the polls in june, first round eric adams led 7 out of 7 times. cath catherine garcia led 0 out of 7 times. garcia actually won 2 out of 7 times in those polls. so, yes, it is completely possible that someone like eric adams could lead on the initial preferences, but then you go through all this math and we could end up with a different winner. and it could to tell you this is going to take a week or more to figure out. >> okay, listen, it sounds confusing but i like it because it's a means of watering down the fringe and forcing candidates to appeal to a lot of different demographics. thank you as always. appreciate you being here. >> my pleasure, michael. are you staying at an airbnb this summer? like many hotel chains there are

good reviews and horror stories, but you don't hear much about the latter, and there's a reason. i'm going to talk with the journalist behind a fascinating new look at the lengths to which airbnb handles crisis management. is it about putting the customer first or about damage control? that's next.

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take those cleaning products and clean the inside of the car. i'm talking fast, fast, fast. you need to go in the backseat. scoop up all those little pieces of brain and skull. get it out of there. wipe down the upholstery. now, when it comes to upholstery, it don't need to be spick-and-span. you don't need to eat off it. just give it a good-once over. what you need to take care of are the really messy parts. >> who could forget the wolf in quentin tarantino's "pulp fiction." i was reminded of that when i came across this stunning report from bloomberg on how airbnb has their own top-secret team of fixers who quietly wash away the company's nightmares. violent incidents that include sexual assaults, rape, even murder. my next guest looked into how airbnb uses this so-called

black-box family and even spends millions of dollars every year to keep things under wraps. a airbnb told bloomberg quote, as much as we try occasionally, really bad things happen. we all know that you can't stop everything but it's all about how you respond, and when it happens, you have to make it right. and that is what he wwe try to each and every time. bloomberg's tech reporter, olivia carvil, joins me now. so, olivia, tell me what is the safety team? >> thanks so much for having me, michael. so the safety team inside airbnb is really an elite and highly-secretive unit that operates for two specific, you know, roles. one is to when violent crimes occur inside airbnb listings and the second is really to protect the airbnb bran. >> to be fair to airbnb, they say, hey, we are talking about 0.1% and as you pointed out in your piece, they are larger than the top-seven hotel chains,

combined. so, yeah, bad things happen but the odds are way against them ever happening. fair? >> yeah, totally fair. this is the world's biggest-hospitality company. when, you know, even on a night like tonight, millions of people are staying inside an airbnb. so when you are talking about numbers that big, things are bound to go wrong. this is also a company, that's based on trust between strangers. so when you have strangers sharing the same space, sleeping under the same roof. sometimes, things go horribly wrong. >> yeah. there was a line in your piece, which was just tremendous, by the way. where you said, people meet online. money changes hands. and oftentimes, they end up sleeping under the same roof. well, of course, every once in a while, there's going to be something bad happens. i also remember that there was someone from silicon valley who was offered an investment opportunity. and he, correctly, said i don't want to get close to this because i can see these sort of circumstances happening.

>> that's right. that was in the early days, there were a lot of investors who were too afraid to touch airbnb because they felt that the business model was dangerous. he actually said to them like, you know, guys, someone's going to get raped or murder understand one of your listings and the blood could be on your hands. and i think that's a really important point here. is like, you know, how much money is the company really spending when things go wrong inside its listings? >> this is important. what am i giving up, when i sign the service agreement? >> right. so airbnb has their terms of service. any user who signs up for the platform has to sign this. and essentially, what it means is, if you want to, you know, go into a dispute with airbnb over something that happened to you during a stay. whether it's an emotional injury, a personal injury, you effectively sign away your rights to take them to court, to sue them in court. everything is going to be

handled in confidential arbitration, behind closed doors. that's why you don't really hear much about these cases. you know, they don't reach the courts, and they don't get in the public eye. >> well, and what i, also, learned from this piece is that it's very difficult to do a cross-reference between the addresses of the properties and the local-crime roll. you were able to do that, for example, in -- in miami. take my final-30 seconds and tell me what you found. >> i mean, it's -- it's impossibly hard to get a sense of, you know, what kind of an impact short-term rentals have on crime rates in neighborhoods. i spent weeks trying to -- to answer that. and really, what we discovered is you just can't cross reference the data. and i think that's an important point here is transparency around the data. so users can understand how safe they really are. and law enforcement can understand what kind of a risk, and what role, does short-term -- play in the crime rates and local neighborhoods? no one really understands the

scope of this problem. >> i was also impressed with the caliber of individual and the experiences that they have in crisis management. the cia or running political campaigns that they have hired to be involved in this process. it's a great piece. thank you for being here, to discuss it. >> thanks so much for having me. >> we'll be right back. welcome to allstate. ♪ ♪

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thank you so much for watching. please, join me tomorrow and every-saturday morning at 9:00 eastern for smerconish right here on cnn. "don lemon tonight" starts right now. michael, how are you? i never thought i would be saying happy juneteenth. but here we are, in 2021, and finally, we are celebrating at least a national holiday, or marking the end of slavery. >> and it's a good thing. and i think, you know, the acceptance by -- one of those rare issues, don, about which, it seems like the congress, the house, and the senate, were able to come together and that's a great thing because we see so little of it, these days. >> yeah. and i will be watching your coverage on the actual juneteenth day