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previous model of spacecraft. the company has since sold 600 tickets at more than $200,000 each a cost that's likely to go up. so far fewer than 600 people have been to space. whether it's bezos or branson, this first flight is sure todic -- kick off a new type of tourism, their own set of astronauts wings and bragging rights for life. rachel crane, cnn, new york. >> thanks to rachel. thanks to all of you. anderson starts now. good evening. we begin tonight with breaking news. senate republicans tonight unified in blocking further action on sweeping voting legislation backed by democrats. by withholding the ten votes needed to break a filibuster, they didn't really vote the bill down, nor did they vote against having a vote on the bill. all they did, which is enough under the rules of the senate
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was defeat a motion to proceed with s-1, what democrats call the for the people act. in other words, agree or disagree with what's in the bill, what republicans did tonight was foreclosure any possibility of even opening debate on it. now, none of this was unexpected or particularly unusual, except perhaps for the degree of the nothing to see here, folks, coming from minority leader mitch mcconnell. nothing to see, in his view, nothing for the federal government to do about it. >> i'm okay with the states sorting this sort of stuff out. you know, the most important election in the country is the presidential election. it's not decided in congress. it's decided in the electoral college. those are state-by-state decisions. and so regardless of what may be happening in some state, there's no rationale for federal intervention. they'll figure it out. they'll go to court and determine whether or not there's any rational basis for this.
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that's not unusual in this country. >> it's not unusual in this country, he says, for states to work it all out. and it's true that many things like this do ultimately getting worked out in courts. but then in the next breath, literally one minute later, he says there's really nothing to work out. >> there's nothing broken around the country. the system upheld very well during intense stress in the latter part of the previous congress. this no rationale basis for federalizing this election, therefore, there's no point in having an election -- a debate in the u.s. senate about something we ought not to do. >> those two thoughts, nothing's broken and let the states work it out are the republican strategy in a nut shell. both statements could be true if there was no widespread fraud in
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the last election, that a record number of people in both parties made their voices heard in the middle of the worst public health emergency in a century, that in this vital respect, nothing was really broken. but they don't. if republicans accepted that reality, truly nothing was broken, why are gop-controlled state legislatures finding so much they say they need to fix? if everything's a-ok, then why, according to the brennen center, have at least 14 states already enacted 22 new laws as of may of this year limiting access to the vote largely based on nonexistent voter fraud? if nothing's broken, why are republican state lawmakers hosting sham ballots in already certified elections? if he truly thinks nothing is broken, perhaps senator mcconnell should speak to guys like this senator from georgia who ended his nonbroken 2020 experience with his own security detail due to death threats, who spent part of his tenure begging
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the president of the united states to stop inciting violence with his election lies. >> mr. president, it looks like you likely lost the state of georgia. we're investigating. there's always a possibility. i get it, and you have the rights to go through the courts. what you don't have the ability to do and you need to step up and say this, is stop inspiring people to commit potential acts of violence. someone's going to get hurt. someone's going to get shot. someone's going to get killed. and it's not right. i -- it's not right. >> at this moment, a judge in the state is weighing demands to set up an arizona-style sham audit there. if nothing's broken, why is this even in front of a judge? of course, if nothing's broken, then what were all those rioters doing at senator mcconnell's workplace? clearly something is broken, largely to the insensitive that lies about stolen elections and voter fraud have broken it. something a number of senator
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mcconnell's fellow republicans are complicit with. he seems to think his party benefits from it. some portions of senate bill 1 would have prevented the kind of voter restriction laws we see across the country. others would have established federal standards for early and mail-in voting, putting all states on a level playing field. yet other language would have put redistricting into the hands of bipartisan commissions, chosen not by the government as falsely claimed, but by the states themselves. had republicans debated on it, they might have demanded parts of the bill be changed, removed, or replaced, and they might have gotten what they want, but they chose instead not to talk at all, and that makes a statement too. let's go for more on all this from cnn's ryan nobles at the capitol for us tonight. getting to 50 was the best-case scenario for democrats going into this vote. sure they'll be able to say they're united, but they still
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failed to move the bill. it's dead. what happens now? >> reporter: you're right. this bill is not moving forward, and that is a huge blow to many democratic activists across the country who listed this among their highest priorities in this session of congress. you know, the majority leader chuck schumer said they're not giving up, that they have a number of avenues to try and pass some form of this legislation in the near future, but he hasn't outlined how they get there. the obstacle is that the filibuster remains in place and there are a small group of democratic senators who are unwilling to break that up for anything, even something they consider to be their biggest priority, and that includes west virginia's joe manchin and arizona's senator kyrsten sinema who both said the filibuster, breaking it up now would lead to long-term consequences they don't want to entertain. chuck schumer can continue to tell his base that he's not giving up on this, but right now he's yet to outline a true path to getting there without convincing those wayward
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senators they need to break the filibuster and they need to do it now. >> there are progressive democrats who believe president biden and vice president harris should've done more to get this passed. the vice president spoke after the vote. what did she have to say? >> reporter: i talked to a lot of progressive democrats in the house of representatives that are really upset with president biden and vice president kamala harris, that they weren't more forceful in using the bully pulpit of the white house to try and encourage democrats to do everything they possibly could to get this passed in the senate. harris pushed back on that after the vote today. listen to what she said. >> i am here today because obviously this is one of the critical issues that the united states congress could take up. which is about the fundamental right to vote in our country. and i think it is clear, certainly, for the american people that when we're talking about the right to vote, it is not a republican concern or a democratic concern. it is an american concern. this is about the american
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people's right to vote, unfettered. it is about their access to the right to vote in a meaningful way. nobody is debating, i don't believe, whether all americans have the right to vote. the issue here is is there actual access to the voting process? or is that being impeded? and the bottom line is that the president and i are very clear we support s-1, we support the john lewis voting rights act and the fight is not over. >> reporter: harris didn't answer questions after making that statement, but what most reporters were asking, yes, you support it, what's your plan for getting it passed? and right now the majority leader chuck schumer, the white house, president biden, vice president kamala harris don't seem to have an answer to that question. i talked to pramila jayapal. she's the chair of the progressive caucus in the house. tonight she said the patience is wearing thin, particularly with progressive members of the house who want to see action. they're done listening to the words.
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they need to see action behind those words. >> ryan nobles, appreciate it. let's get perspective from democratic senator chris kunz. i spoke to him before air time. >> senator, is it clear why joe manchin waited so long to put forward his version of an acceptable voting rights bill? if he had done that sooner, do you think you could have gotten some republicans on board? >> i don't know if there's anything we can do to get republicans on board with protecting access to the ballot with voting rights. but i'll remind you, anderson, that the restrictive laws that are being passed now in states across the country, states like georgia and arizona, they're trying to do it in texas, they hurt vectors both republicans and democrats alike. they make it harder to access the ballot box and harder to vote under conditions, not just like the pandemic, but in ordinary times. so the kinds of reforms that the for the people act would have put in place would have guaranteed better, broader access to the right to vote for
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americans of all backgrounds in both parties. i think if joe manchin had come forward with a clear proposal earlier, we might have sharpened the focus today. but the outcome still would have likely been the same, 50 democrats supporting moving ahead with it, 50 republicans opposed. >> so what happens now? if there's no chance of getting republicans on board and, you know, manchin and sinema said they will not support eliminating the filibuster, is this just no longer -- is it just dead? >> anderson, the rules committee, which has responsibility for elections, is going to have a series of hearings both about the laws that are being passed around the country and about the provisions that could be included if this is taken up again. a number of us are going to reach out to republicans and see if there is any path forward. but, frankly, given the facts you just stated, i'm gravely concerned this will be a green light to republicans, particularly in state legislatures to move ahead with more steps that willtrict right
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right to vote. >> there's nothing democrats can do about it? >> unless we change the filibuster and we got at least two members who are publicly saying they won't do that, having this veto today was an important part of handbag a discussion in our caucus about whether or not we're willing to change that position and instead move forward with just 51 votes for something as important as protecting access to the right to vote. >> but you have no confident they -- confidence they will move them? >> i don't know that, anderson. we're having robust debates about that. there is right now an ongoing effort at bipartisan progress on infrastructure, on policing reform. but on this issue, on voting rights, there is a very clear 50/50 split between democrats and republicans in the congress and because the right is so foundational of you are did he do i remain hopeful we may yet
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pur persuade possession to change position. >> the ballot in arizona is not a legitimate audit at all, he said he's okay with states sorting this stuff out and there's no room for congress in election laws. are you okay with that? >> well, anderson, the audit in arizona is searching for some shred of evidence of voter fraud or of vote irregularities. after months and months of effort and several attempts at this audit, no significant evidence has come forward. i do think it's important that we take action federally to ensure that the guardrails of our elections are strong. i think we should look back at the 2020 election and be improving access to the ballot and the ability of states to ensure that the will of the electorate is respected, rather than the steps being taken as in
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arizona to re-litigate through an audit the election of 2020. >> there's a lot of democrats who have seen what happened today on voting rights because are obviously very upset. earlier today, congressman jamaal bowman of new york said president biden needs to be a lot more vocal and out confront voting rights. was he involved enough in these negotiations? is there something more he can do? >> look, president biden has been clear, has been forceful, and has been engaged about the importance of protecting the right to vote. vice president harris and president biden have spoken to senators, have spoken out publicly, have used their bully pulpit in social media in person and on camera. but i do think there's more work for all of us to do. if it's going to be harder for us to win elections going forward, then we're simply going to have to work harder to demonstrate that we're delivering results for the american people and to take the fight to state legislatures around the country and to try
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and persuade folks both in our caucus and nationally that the right to vote is too precious a thing to allow it to be taken away by state legislatures around the country. >> senator chris kunz, appreciate your time. thanks. >> thank you, anderson. next, breaking news in what we've just learned about house speaker pelosi plans to investigate the january insurrection in the face of republican opposition to an independent commission. also, with all the talk about so-called ninjas and their so-called suspicions of ballots in arizona, some facts. later, this is striking, the cdc director said today that nearly every adult covid death that takes place now is, quote, entirely preventable if people just get vaccinated. with that in mind, we'll talk about the biggest threat right now to the unvaccinated, the delta variant, and how quickly it's spreading in america.
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keep. get started for $1 a day at keeps.com. . in light of tonight's unified and successful republican effort to block debate object voting rights legislation, you heard senate minority leader mitch mcconnell declaring nothing the "s" broken. tonight there's someone he might want to talk to, the person who makes the ballots in maricopa county. cnn's kyung lah met the man, visited his company and has this report. >> reporter: in these final days of the so-called arizona audit, the focus is on the ballot paper itself. as we peek in from our perch in the nose bleed press box, we see workers photographing the nearly
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2,102,020 battle cast in maricopa county, using microscopic cameras to zoom in on the paper. it's a mystery what this is all about to us and to jeff ellington. >> what are they looking for? >> don't know, wish we knew. >> reporter: this is president and ceo of run beck election services. nearly every single 2020 printed ballot for maricopa county, arizona, was produced here at run beck, an air-tight, secured, 90,000 square foot facility where every ballot is bar coded, sorted, and assembled, and the specialty paper itself cut and measured to the nano meter. >> this is ballot paper. >> reporter: this has to be specially made? >> it's heavyt hard to ship. thousands of pounds for each of these rolls. we don't have paper made out of bamboo. >> reporter: bamboo in ballot paper has been a wild conspiracy that has been chased. >> there were accusations about the ballots coming from china,
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bamboo in the paper, that 40,000 ballots came in that were forged or whatever. >> my first response was there's no way. >> reporter: as this audit continues and ellington watched workers use uv lights, it started getting to him. >> maybe there is something, so we went in a room like this and got our flashlight and we were shining it on the paper trying to figure out what they could possibly be looking for. we couldn't find anything on the ballot that reflected or was a watermark or anything. >> i think that is an exercise in just nonsense. >> reporter: steven richer is a republican maricopa county recorder, loudly denouncing this partisan exercise by the republican-controlled arizona senate and what this will mean for american democracy. >> you're going to have division and we're not going to move the needle at all and give further oxygen to some of these absurd conspiracy theories.
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and so, you know, i don't see what the end game is here and i don't see how this really helps. >> reporter: or makes any sense at all. in 2016 you did the ballots? >> correct >> reporter: in 2020, you did the ballots? >> yes, for maricopa county we did the ballots in both elections. >> reporter: so what changed between 2016 and 2020 that there's now this outrage in 2020? >> the outcome. >> kyung lah joins us now from phoenix. what are you learning about when and how this so-called report or the so-called audit will be unveiled? >> reporter: well, you know, when we spoke about this last night, anderson, we were hearing that it could be late july, early august. there's a lot of this guessing game, a lot of this uncertainty because arizona senate president karen fan isn't talking to a lot of election officials in arizona like they anticipated. another source is telling us the background 60 days, that's the last word that they got, that it
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could be 60 days before they find out what is revealed and what it could mean for the voters here in arizona and in maricopa county specifically, anderson. that, though, creates a lot of uncertainty to have all that time, that gap as this question and all these conspiracy theories are swirling out here. more on the effort to spread the sham audits, colorado's secretary of state headed off a push in her state. some of the demands have apparently been inspired by the privately-run audit in arizona. secretary griswold joins us now. appreciate you being with us. i want your thoughts on the situation in arizona and what it's prompted you to do in colorado. first, i want your reaction to the breaking news that out of washington, the flurryailure of senate to move forward a voting rights bill. senator mcconnell says it's not necessary and it should go through the states and the courts if necessary.
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>> well, anderson, thank you for having me on. my reaction from what happened in d.c. is democrats are united in protecting voting rights, and senate republicans are united in allowing states to suppress their voters. that's what we're seeing across the nation, a concerted effort, coordinated to undermine democracy and then justify the passing of voter suppression. so i believe that it's urgent that we do have the senate take action and really call on every single senator to do a carveout of the filibuster. we cannot allow the filibuster to be the reason that democracy is destroyed by these voter suppression tactics, these fake audits, and literally insurrectionists running to be the chief election officers of states and secretary of state. >> isn't there an argument to be made, though, just arguing the other side here, that the last reason -- the system is set up the way it is, and for those who didn't like the former president, that had federal government been able to have a
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one-size-fits-all policy for thousand election should be run in each state, there could have been something done untoward by the former president, where the fact that the states make up their own voting rules, isn't there some protection for voters in that? >> well, what voters need is protection and the freedom to cast a ballot in secure elections. what we're seeing is our freedoms are being under attack in state legislatures across the nation. and i believe that every american deserves access to have their voice heard in electricians regardless of the clofr their skin, the amount of money in their bank account, or where they're zip code is. so i disagree with that assessment. we're at an urgency point for our democracy. and what federal legislation would do, would not say you have to run your elections, this, that, and the other way and that's it. it would put a floor in so that
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states and partisan elected officials stopped suppressing their voters. anderson, with these voter suppression bills, it's not only about taking away americans' freedoms, it's about partisan gop members tilting elections in their favor. that's as un-american as you can get. >> you heard the latest from kyung lah on this so-called audit in maricopa county. you took sort of a preemptive action in colorado. there were conservative groups seeking to do something similar with your ballots. can you explain what was going on and what you did? >> yeah. so in colorado, our local county election officials were getting pressured to run the sham audits. at times, they were getting pressured with threats. and i believe that in colorado we need to take action to protect our democracy. that is how i see my role as secretary of state. so i issued rules probating sham audits in the state w. we're not going to law people with no experience in elections
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to get ahold of our voting equipment. and on top of that, we already have the best audits in the nation. they're bipartisan, risk-limiting audits that certify outcomes are correct. we should make it really clear what the sham audits are trying to do. they are trying to undermine exce competence in elections. some of these partisan gop members are really setting the stage for further voter suppression. lastly, i think it's noteworthy that although we're seeing these types of fraudits and voter suppression, and senate republicans really refuse to move to protect the right to vote, american voters, including republican american voters, support the reforms in the for the people act, support the idea that every american should've access to making our voices heard and choosing our elected leaders. >> we should also point out in the last election there was record turnout on both sides.
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it was actually a very successful afflictions state houses across the country, huge turnout on both sides. so the idea that this should be a partisan issue is -- it's just -- it's very strange. jenna griswold, appreciate your time. cnn learned from two sources familiar with the subject that house speaker sploes going to appointed a committee to investigate the january 6th insurrection. one source telling us the speaker indicated she believes a regular standing committee of several dozen members just would not work and notes the house has already given the senate several weeks to get a bill on an independent commission, something republicans have blocked. speaker pelosi later denied she had made a decision. cnn stands by its reporting and the sources who confirmed her initial reports. next breaking news. polls close shortly in the new york city mayoral race that could have a long, drawn-out
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♪ root for team usa and feel the energy ♪ ♪ 7000 plus hours of the olympics on display ♪ ♪ with xfinity you get every hour of every day ♪ ♪ different sports on different screens, ♪ ♪ you can watch it anywhere ♪ ♪ and with the voice remote ♪ ♪ you never have to leave your chair ♪ show me team usa. ♪ all of this innovation could lead to some inspiration ♪ ♪ and you might be the next one to represent our nation ♪ ♪ this summer on your tv, tablet, or any screen ♪ ♪ xfinity is here to inspire your biggest dreams ♪ there's breaking news about half an hour from now. polls in new york close, an end to a nomination process to elect a new moor. the democratic nominee is expected to win in november and lead a far different new york than the one just a year ago. but it may be a while before we learn which of the 13 candidates that is. our national correspondent peter
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jones joins us with the latest. it's a big field. it's been a tough campaign, even by new york standards. any sense of how the candidates are feeling tonight? >> reporter: anderson, you're right, it has been a long campaign. it's gotten bitter, especially towards the end. there are 13 candidates vying for the democratic nomination, but there are four names that have risen to the top in the limited public polling we've been looking at in the last few weeks. those are, in fact, the names we have been hearing the most. here at this polling place and also at a polling place in crown heights in brooklyn, those names are eric adams, the brooklyn borough president. he's a former new york police captain. he appears to be leading the polls, but, of course, this race is hard to poll due to the ranked choice voting aspect. also katherine garcia, the former sanitation commissioner who worked under bill de blasio, the current mayor, and mayor michael bloomberg. also maya wiley, a civil rights
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lawyer who was counsel to the current mayor, bill de blasio. her name has come up a lot at this polling place, and andrew yang, the businessman and former 2020 presidential candidate. those are the four candidates that have risen to the top here. it's going to be weeks before we find out who's ultimately the winner. but these are folks who are projecting confidence at the end. eric adams in the last few days and hours saying i never doubted that i would win. of course we won't know tonight if he did win, but he's projecting confidence, sharing some of the union support and others making calls for him, helping to get out the vote. wily and garcia and yang tweeting about thousand polls are go to bed to close in less than an hour, urging voters to get out and have their voices heard. so there's reason for confidence, but this has been a difficult race to poll because we don't know how much movement is going on when it comes to people figuring out, strategizing who to rank, first,
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second, and third. >> athena jones, thank you. let's get perspective from christina quinn, ran for mayor in 2013 and harry enton. christina, great to see you. what was going through your mind when you were a candidate for mayor? what do you expect is going on tonight. this is unlike anything we've seen in new york. this whole system is confusing. >> you know, i didn't get the results i wanted on primary night, but at least i knew and it was over. you know? and so for these folks, i can't imagine -- i cannot imagine two, three, maybe four weeks of waiting and waiting. that's really challenging. are they going to keep campaigning? how much of a press presence are they going to have? it's a totally different world. my heart kind of goes out to them because it's going to be hard to not know. >> harry, can you walk us
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through in any way that is comprehensiveble how the primary process works? if i could drink, i would have a drink while you do this, but i'll have to listen sober. >> maybe a candidate's nightmare but a journalist's dream to be able to explain such a complex system such as this. here's the situation. you're going to bring up to five candidates on your ballot. you can rank any number you want. then essentially what happens is if no one reaches a majority of the vote and it's very unlikely that anyone will, we'll start eliminating folks one by one. if you have the lowest share of the vote, you get eliminated and your votes go to your second, third, or fourth choice. here's the key thing to keep in mind. if the candidate that's ahead is with less than 40% of the vote, which is very likely, and their mislead ten points or greater, that candidate is very, very likely to win based upon history. they won 100% of the time in ranked choice voting elections in the united states since 2000.
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but if let's say the leader is ahead by less than ten points, they only win 10% of the time. let's see where the leader is. if it's a close race, less than ten points between first place and second place, we really could be waiting a long time to figure out who wins. but if that first place experience ahead by 15 points, that person is very likely to win. >> i would watch a show, harry, of you and your mom talking new york politics. i would watch that show. i don't know your mom, but i would watch that. >> she is a lovely person. she's a great pediatrician. you know, we used to go to the voting booth and have stella dorr cookies with the jewish ladies, it was beautiful. >> so much of the election is about crime, which is a rising concern. new york has seen record low crime for somebody who grew up in new york in the '70s, it's a different new york.
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do you expect this primary to be an indicator of the candidates and platforms that get traction across the country? >> there's a lot of discussion about that because i think if you had a conversation about how would crime and police play in this election, say, six months ago, we all would have said it's going to focus on police community relations, police brutality, et cetera. that's really shifted and it's a more traditional conversation about crime being on the rise, you know, and violence being up in the city. except, as you just referenced, it's nowhere near at all the, quote, unquote, bad old days, the bronx is burning, et cetera. nonetheless, i think younger people in this city are so used to there being no crime at all, the increase really has them shook and we're seeing that in thousand discussion has changed. even older voters have become so
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used to super low crime, this new increase has really had them rethink how they see this issue, and that's really a big reason why eric adams is doing so well giving his history of having been a police captain. and he's running on a hard--on-crime, lock 'em up kind of platform. >> it's going to take a while before we know who wins. when are we actually going to find out? >> it could be weeks. look, we'll get an idea of what the first choice selections are this evening, but that will only be the in-person voting. that does not count the ab absentees. again, not counting those absentee mail ballots. it's not until july 6th we'll have ranked-choice results including mail ballots that may total 100,000 or more. finally, it won't be until july 12th that official results
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should be expected. so perhaps we should all go to a diner, get some coffee a few times each week and we can discuss the results there. >> i like that idea. great to see you. thanks. what, christina? >> lots of good conversation for your july 4th barbecue. >> that's certainly true. thank you so much. just ahead, more breaking news. dr. anthony fauci warns about the threat of the coronavirus variant that may become the dominant strain as young people in certain states are lagging behind the rest of the nation when it comes to vaccinations. what it means for the rest of us as well when we continue. ts of . no more cartridges. incredible amount of ink. the epson ecotank. just fill and chill. so through ancestry, i discovered my great aunt ruth signed up as a nursing cadet for world war ii. she was only 17. bring your family history to life like never before. get started for free at ancestry.com
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more breaking news tonight. federal health officials warning of a serious uptick prevalence of a coronavirus variant first seen in india. certain states not getting vaccinated at high enough rates. >> the delta variant is currently the greatest threat in the u.s. to our attempt to eliminate covid-19. good news, the vaccines are effective against the delta variant. there is a danger, a real danger that if there is a persistence of a recalcitrance to getting vaccinated that you could see localized surges. >> dr. fauci added that this variant is doubling every two weeks in with the u.s.,
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accounting for 20% of tested samples. let's get perspective from dr. paul offit at children's hospital in philadelphia. i don't know if it was a week ago it was at 10% of cases in the u.s. were this delta variant. now it's 20%. what's to stop this from becoming the dominant variant in this country as it has in other countries? >> well, vaccines are what stop it. unfortunately, we have a large percentage of the population that is still choosing not to vaccinate. i don't know why we need to keep learning this lesson. the first voice that came out of china was the first variant. it didn't have a greek letter designation. it was replaced by the alpha or u.k. variant, which now is a dominant strain and now we have the third, delta variant. this bat coronavirus is trying to become more and more adapted to people, therefore, it becomes
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nowhere contagious. as dr. fauci said, we're not helpless here, just get vaccinated. unfortunately there are too many people not making that choice. >> there's this guy, cole beasley, in what he termed a public service announcement, he's an nfl player. he tweeted this weekend, quote, i'm not vaccinated. i'll be outside doing what i do. if you're scared of me, then steer clear. i may die of covid, but i'll die actually living. what do you do? what do you do with somebody like this? >> here's a man, wide receiver for the buffalo bills, who's saying it's my choice, it's my personal choice. but it's really not his personal choice because he ice making a choice for those with whom he comes in contact. he makes two flawed arguments. one is that what do you care if you're vaccinated? you're good. but no vaccine is 100%
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effective. it's still possible they could get sick, so you need everybody around you to be as highly vaccinated as possible. the second thing is there are hundreds of thousands of people in this country who can't be vaccinated because they're getting chemotherapy and they depend on those around them to protect them f. enough people are like the hell with you, you're going to have the continued spread of the virus, continued hospitalization and death, and worse yet, continued generation of the variants which makes it harder to get on top of. there's this anti-vaccine attitude, or a pro-disease attitude. >> also, this guy who clearly thinks he's tough and is showing off to be how tough he is, when he gets sick, he's going to end up in a hospital. he's going to go to a hospital where doctors and nurses are going to have to waste their
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time attending to him because he chose not to have a vaccine. and then at some point right before he's put on a ventilator, he will make a public service announcement saying, oh, gosh, i really should've got a vaccine. i thought it was meaningless to have a vaccine. it's even worse to be on a ventilator. it just seems like such a -- an snoukz way to think because, frankly, he doesn't live in a bubble and medical attention is going to have to be paid for him. if he gets sick, people are going to have to waste their time attending to him when they could have been attending the other people. and children and little kids aren't getting vaccinated. even people who have mild cases have often long-haul symptoms for many, many months. there's so many reasons why his argument is just asinine. >> you're right. and the story you just told is a story that has played out before, where people have said on their death bed they
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regretted not getting a vaccine. it's just a lesson that i find continually amazed that we're unable to learn. he plays football and wears a helmet and shoulder skprads he's trying to prevent injury. this is no different. he uses preventative measures on the football, so why not here? >> i appreciate your time as always. up next, as president biden prepares to address the wave of gun violence across the country, we'll take you to chicago for a look at how politicians and community leaders there are dealing with it. dad, why didn't you answer your phone? your mother loved this park. ♪ she did.
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there's an update tonight on a story we brought you on last night's program. that police officer from suburban denver shot and killed yesterday was targeted precisely because he was a cop, according to the local police chief. the 19-year-old veteran died along with a bystander. the suspect was also killed. the chief was targeted by someone who expressed a hatred toward police officers. that, of course, is only a single incident of gun violence across the country.
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president biden plans to get together tomorrow with state and local officials try to come up with an answer that so far seems immune to any answers. policemen are anticipating a long violent summer. jimenez has been tracking politicians to try to turn that tack around. here's his report. >> reporter: what are the phone calls like when you realize a kid has been shot? >> reporter: navigating twbetwe the wrong and right sides of the track in chicago can be a difficult journey. jervon hicks is a life coach for the community and anti-gun violence group. he has tried to stop a history of shooting. now he's trying to stop the history for any amount of money.
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were these kids at one point and now you're trying to change their paths. >> absolutely. >> reporter: how do you do that? >> you have to set some attainable goals for these kids. not just set them but reach them. >> reporter: his latest plan is to slow down the pace of violence, what chicago's mayor is calling a whole of government approach. >> our young men, the men most likely to be the victims but also the perpetrators of crime, have to know at the earliest possible stage their destiny is not preordained to be picking up a gun or an early death. >> reporter: the city says certain zones are driving a disproportionate amount of crime, all the way down to the block level. then using family support services and more to fight violence with resources. why are you so confident this can work more than what's been tried in the past?
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>> exposure primarily on law enforcement doesn't work. and we know that. we spent billions of dollars across the city policing without other supports for communities, and it's not moving the needle fast enough. >> reporter: but police are a major part of the public safety approach. even with the foot chases at the ends of pursuits. chicago's police department is said to implement a new policy that prohibits foot chases for minor traffic offenses and positioning officers that discourages running. >> it actually makes us safer. officers are safer related to the foot policies and the community is safer. >> if you're not, as a law enforcement leader or officer, open to reform, you're in the wrong business. we have to change our culture.
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there is no going back to the way it used to be. >> reporter: since january 2019, no city has seen more shootings than chicago. >> it started with the pandemic, and then the george floyd murder, which the next six to eight weeks after that, we had a staff member killed. we had three of our young men killed. we had a 20-month-old baby of one of our men, he was killed, and it was just an extraordinarily dark time. >> reporter: reality adding urgency. >> i'm not saying i'm god or i can prevent anything from happening, but i know in my heart i do what i can at 1:00 or 2:00 in the morning to help put this guy in a safer environment. >> reporter: the men who look like that and live these neighborhoods are giving everything they have to save peace for the next generation. >> reporter: it's going to have to start from the ground up. >> that's the only way. >> i don't get accolades for
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this. if you want to be in the streets, so be it. if you want to change, that's what we're here for. >> reporter: omar, has this strategy made any progress that's actually able to be measured? >> it's still early since the policy was actually announced in just recent weeks, but one of the ways they are trying to mark progress is by properly identifying the problem. and by that they mean that when you look at communities that start out with inequities, it end up in violence. and nearly all of the neighborhood that are identified in these four zones are over 80% black, and nearly all of those are high economic hardship areas. and this comes, of course, as the city becomes to reopen in this sort of post-covid era, at least what we're trying to get to, and while there are thoughts that maybe this could be a more violent setting, one of the interesting things i heard from officials is that it actually allows them to get into a more normal cadence with managing the violence and i'm at least hoping they can get it back to 2019
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the retail fanatics said that the nassib's jersey is the highest sold jersey in the last two days. the league says it will match nassib's $100,000 donation to the project to help prevent suicide deaths among young people. i'm going to hand it over to chris for "cuomo prime time." >> i hope we are here for the day this isn't an event. where nassib doesn't have to come out, where nobody has to come out. that will abe a good day and i hope we start making progress from where we are so far. i'm happy for him, but i wish it wasn't so consequential for everybody and we had to monitor it for him. michael samm never played a game in the nfl even though he was a warrior and
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